Secondary Addiction Part III: Ann Coulter on Evolution

Talk Reason ^ | James Downard

[Junior]

Forebore reading? ??????

Limited vocabulary? ??????

[HairOfTheDog]

The fossils that look like Archaeopteryx lived millions of years after Archaeopteryx, and the fossils that preceded Archaeopteryx look nothing at all like it. The bizarre bird is just an odd creation that came out of nowhere and went nowhere

How long does it take to make a fossil, and under what conditions are they preserved?

Do we really think we've seen all the evidence? I think only a small percentage of the natural history even exists for us to ponder about... most has been devoured by time and scattered to the winds. I certainly wouldn't assume we've seen it all. We're looking at a very small sample, and always risk coming to the wrong conclusion about where it fits in the big picture.

[HayekRocks]

Doctor Alan Feduccia questions whether Archeopteryx is a link between dinosaurs and birds. He does not question that it is a link between reptiles and birds. He thinks its ancestor was a reptile, not a dinosaur.

[Junior]

The author actually addresses your points.

[HayekRocks]

The fact that it had teeth is irrelevant to its alleged transitional status—a number of extinct birds had teeth, while many reptiles do not.

You posted that there are birds today which have teeth. I asked already which birds these are. I will ask again. Please tell me which birds today have teeth.

[RightWingAtheist]

Only spontaneous combustion could save Coulter now.

[CarolinaGuitarman]

"Be that as it may, he has no proof of that either, just more hand-waving and story telling with no empirical evidence to back it up."

Now you turn on the guy you were just parading as your source for why archeopteryx is just a bird. Priceless!

[tallhappy]

Ha.

You are hilarious. Completely unaware of your laughable dumbness.

You're serious?

I am literally laughing.

The new Bowery Boys ride again.

[CarolinaGuitarman]

"I am always polite, you dumbass!!" Placemarker

[Virginia-American]

...there are birds today who have teeth too, big deal....

There are? Which ones?

[HairOfTheDog]

The author actually addresses your points.

Might have... but I forebore reading it ;~D

[Virginia-American]

There is one group of birds that have teeth as juveniles

Which ones? I never heard of this before.

[Junior]

Hoatzin.

[Junior]

Belay my last. I may have gotten teeth/wing claws mixed up. Hoatzin chicks have small claws allowing them to climb trees.

[phantomworker]

Can't quite figure out Ms. Coulter. On the one hand, she is a sharp-witted, self-confident lush without falter, whose chutzpah I admire. On the other, she's a "whoosh" who talks trash, and is obviously ignorant about evolution and not afraid to show it.

[HayekRocks]

Be that as it may, he has no proof of that either, just more hand-waving and story telling with no empirical evidence to back it up.

So, in fact, you are citing Feduccia to try to pretend he supports a point which he does not support.

and regardless, it is a bird, was a bird, always was a bird. paleleobabble still applies to the idea of reptiles to birds as well.

It had teeth. You seem to think that some modern birds have teeth, but you have not yet told us which birds they are. It had a long tail like a reptile. Modern birds have a short, fused pygostyle. It had a full fibula. Modern birds do not. It had a very small sternum, like a reptile, not a modern flying bird.

[RadioAstronomer]

Coulter is totally ignorant about evolution placemarker.

[Virginia-American]

Are you thinking of wing claws rather than teeth?