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Of Rightroots, Nutroots, and Knuckleheads
Wizbang Politics ^ | 8/7/06 | Jim Addison

Posted on 08/07/2006 4:37:43 PM PDT by Coop

When the Rightroots effort began, it sounded like a great way to counter the KosKids/Nutroots incursions into key congressional races. One of the weaknesses of the Nutroots seemed to be picking candidates with their emotions rather than with their brains {if any}. Many of those Kos selected had no practical chance to win, so not only was the money raised a waste, but with each new defeat the project took on the air of windmill-tilting.

Then, when The Florida Masochist gave Rightroots his "Knucklehead of the Day" award, I began to worry. Diane Irey, opposing anti-war, anti-Marine John Murtha, is not only on the RR list, but has garnered the lioness' share of donations. The Florida Masochist pointed out that Murtha has won his district easily in recent elections, and the race isn't even considered a "race to watch" by any serious compilation of competitive seats.

Were we falling into the Kos "ego trap," and choosing candidates we merely hoped would win? Maybe not, thanks to Rep. Murtha.

As Bob Novak reports at Townhall, Murtha just can't keep his big fat foot out of his mouth. First, he declared the Marines accused of killing innocent civilians at Haditha guilty of war crimes before the investigation was fully engaged. NOW, after squad leader Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich sued Murtha for defamation of character, Murtha did it again:

Rep. John Murtha, responding Wednesday to a defamation lawsuit filed by a Marine accused of killing Iraqi civilians in 2005, mistakenly said Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich had been "charged in the incident at Haditha." In fact, no charges have been filed against anybody.

Murtha quickly issued a new press release Wednesday deleting "charged" and describing Wuterich as leader of "the squad accused of killing two dozen civilians."

With Murtha's continued help, Irey's chances can only improve. One suspects Murtha's easy reelections were in large part due to his military record. His open slandering of our men in harm's way can't help him, no matter how heavily Democratic his district may be.

The real "Knucklehead" is sitting in Congress - maybe not for long, if we all help.


TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Government; Local News; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: abscam; cutandrun; exmarine; irey; murthawatch
One point completely missed by this post, is that while voter registration is heavily Dem, Kerry only won 51% of PA-12's vote. Jack Murtha's nervous, and with good cause.

Diana Irey is now over $7,000 on Rightroots, a new resource for conservative candidates.

1 posted on 08/07/2006 4:37:44 PM PDT by Coop
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To: 4yearlurker; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; acsrp38; agincourt1415; A message; angcat; armydawg1; ...

Please FReepmail me if you'd like on or off the Irey/Murtha ping list.


2 posted on 08/07/2006 4:38:32 PM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: All

Irey's total = $7,030.94, to be exact. But donations have slowed WAY down the past 3 or more days.


3 posted on 08/07/2006 4:45:12 PM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: Coop
The real "Knucklehead" is sitting in Congress - maybe not for long, if we all help.

Jim Addison nailed the first part and the second part should read - he won't be for long because Mrs. Irey is receiving help from across the country.

4 posted on 08/07/2006 4:51:38 PM PDT by jazusamo (DIANA IREY for Congress, PA 12th District: Retire murtha.)
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To: Coop
Well that's cause you keep telling them to go directly to her site, Coop! ;-)

I just got a nice letter from her campaign. She's got a crack team, that for sure. Swannie should take a few notes from Team Irey!

5 posted on 08/07/2006 4:55:23 PM PDT by Sisku Hanne (*Support DIANA IREY for US Congress!* Send "Cut-n-Run" Murtha packing: HIT THE ROAD, JACK!)
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To: Coop

Prognosticators simply think voters are stupid...and they are definitely not stupid. They say Murtha has won by a gazillion votes everytime he has run. Well, maybe, but this is a different Murtha. For one thing voters know people get old and eventually become unfiut for office. They see this in their own families ad co-workers. Secondly the Murtha of old was a strong supporter of the military and all thought he was a solid veteran and war "hero". As folks take a fresh look at him they find he is slandering the military no less than Dennis Kucinich, Jacques sKerry, Michael Moore, or Jane Fonda. She he has left the voters, they aren;t leaving him.

Then they consider the fresh new face (Diana Irey), with ideas and programs for the 12th distrist. Someone who has served locolly for over 10 years in office, who knows the voters and their concerns. It is time for a fresh start. A change has to occur someday, and today is that time.


6 posted on 08/07/2006 4:56:34 PM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: Sisku Hanne
Well that's cause you keep telling them to go directly to her site, Coop! ;-)

Yep, around here I darned sure do! :-) But it's really not FR that's been pushing that total. Rightroots is all over the conservative blog scene, and that E-mail from the RNC probably did the most for collecting money.

7 posted on 08/07/2006 4:57:42 PM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: shalom aleichem

Several times the disgraceful EX-Marine ran unopposed, including in 2004. Now PA-12 voters have a real alternative to that sack of garbage.


8 posted on 08/07/2006 4:59:25 PM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Ping


9 posted on 08/07/2006 5:14:11 PM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: Coop

Thanks for the ping.


10 posted on 08/07/2006 6:01:29 PM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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To: ChicagoConservative27

You're welcome, and I finally remembered to add you to the list. :-} Sorry for the delay!


11 posted on 08/07/2006 6:28:04 PM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: Sisku Hanne

I got a nice letter, too. Diana Irey has built a first-class organization. She'll need it, of course, when she gets to Congress!


12 posted on 08/07/2006 6:32:16 PM PDT by RedRover
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To: shalom aleichem
"A fresh new face," and a very attractive one at that. Not very often do women running for public office exude such sex appeal to male voters.

BTW, it would probably be more appropriate to call the French candidate Jean Kerry, unless you are trying to link him to Jacques Chirac.

13 posted on 08/07/2006 6:39:21 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Coop

No problem. Thanks again for adding me.


14 posted on 08/07/2006 6:43:47 PM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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To: Coop

I got out my trusty Almanac of American Politics 2006 to read today. I was disenheartened when I saw the map of the distirct and saw both how little of Washington County (where Irey is commish) is in the district and how little of the district is in Washington County.


15 posted on 08/07/2006 6:53:02 PM PDT by GoBucks2002
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To: GoBucks2002

Just be glad how much Pittsburgh is NOT in District


16 posted on 08/07/2006 7:17:58 PM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: Coop

BTTT


17 posted on 08/08/2006 3:06:23 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: Coop
Bump and Elect Diana Irey --- Donate Today!


18 posted on 08/08/2006 3:44:09 AM PDT by W04Man (Bush2004 Grassroots Campaign We Did It! NOW.... PLEASE STAY THE COURSE!)
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To: GoBucks2002
I got out my trusty Almanac of American Politics 2006 to read today. I was disenheartened when I saw the map of the distirct and saw both how little of Washington County (where Irey is commish) is in the district and how little of the district is in Washington County.

No biggie. That made name recognition a big challenge for her at one time. That's not a problem any longer. :-)

Her biggest liability right now, IMHO, is a significant gap in funds. Her biggest asset is Jack Murtha and his big, despicable mouth.

19 posted on 08/08/2006 4:46:21 AM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: RedRover; justiceseeker93

Bump


20 posted on 08/08/2006 7:13:00 AM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: Coop

"The Florida Masochist pointed out that Murtha has won his district easily in recent elections, and the race isn't even considered a "race to watch" by any serious compilation of competitive seats."

So what's the problem? ;) Yada, yada, yada, "She can't win". "Murtha's never lost." "It's hopeless." "The citizens of the 12th... (insert your own derogatory term of choice here, I've seen plenty over the past few months ;)" "Even Gleason doesn't think she can win." And on, and on, and... . Funny how no one ever mentions *why* Murtha has won so "easily" in the past. ;)

So I ask again? What's the big deal? If it's such a "sure thing", why bother to comment at all? No one ever did before. Seems to me an awful lot of "effort" is being expended to try to convince people that Irey doesn't have a chance. ;) Could it be that since April, *some* people are getting "nervous"?

Judging from Murtha's mouth, he isn't one of them. Keep it up Mr. Murtha. ;)






21 posted on 08/08/2006 8:21:09 AM PDT by Mrs. Ranger (lamenting the death of "common sense" - vote Irey)
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To: Mrs. Ranger

Oh, he's one of them. Counter rally for Boot Murtha. A hit piece on Irey on his own website. He's nervous. But I think he's just enjoying his celebrity status too much to shut his mouth.


22 posted on 08/08/2006 8:45:40 AM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: shalom aleichem
For one thing voters know people get old and eventually become unfiut for office.

Robert Byrd?

Strom Thurmond?

Keep going . . . this is too funny.
23 posted on 08/08/2006 8:48:17 AM PDT by Xenalyte (who is having the best day ever!)
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To: Xenalyte

Roth


24 posted on 08/08/2006 9:16:02 AM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: Coop

You mean the guy who used to be with Van Halen?


25 posted on 08/08/2006 9:25:13 AM PDT by Xenalyte (who is having the best day ever!)
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To: Xenalyte

sure


26 posted on 08/08/2006 9:27:54 AM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: Coop; shalom aleichem

You've lost me. Here's what happened:

Shalom posited that voters tend to cycle out old politicians.

I posted the names of two amazingly geezer old pols who apparently the voters haven't gotten around to evicting yet.

You said, "Roth."

I'm leaving this thread now because my head hurts.


27 posted on 08/08/2006 9:32:44 AM PDT by Xenalyte (who is having the best day ever!)
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To: Xenalyte
I know. Roth... as in IRA.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Roth

He lost his election in 2000 due to his age and falling while on the campaign trail.

28 posted on 08/08/2006 9:38:24 AM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: Coop

That was better than Advil! Thanks!


29 posted on 08/08/2006 9:47:30 AM PDT by Xenalyte (who is having the best day ever!)
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To: Coop

"Oh, he's one of them."

Nah, not yet, although it's obvious that someone on his staff is pushing for "cyb just in case". After 30 years of no experience in ever having to run against a "credible" candidate and being entrenched in the "Johnstown mentality", I can assure you that he's convinced that he can't lose. ;) When and if "dawn" might break is anyone's guess. ;)

"Counter rally for Boot Murtha."

make that "hastily assembled" (admission per Trib), like the night before? And where was Murtha? For that matter, where was Rendell? They were in town the night before. ;) The only "name" that was there was Cleland.

"A hit piece on Irey on his own website." \

Yup, a "hit piece" that was soooooo rediculous that no one else would repeat it. ;)And don't forget the "private eye". Yeah, *that* one went over well. ;)

"He's nervous."

I'll have to respectfully disagree here. *Someone* in the Murtha campaign is twitching slightly, but it's very difficult to counter the "it's a lock" mentality. You've seen that attitude right here in this forum on several occasions. ;)


"But I think he's just enjoying his celebrity status too much to shut his mouth."

Thank goodness. ;) As with many in his generation, it's obvious that Congressman Murtha doesn't quite "get" that a growing number of the locals have computers, cable and/or satellite TV. ;)

Make no mistake, Murtha's local "campaign" hasn't started yet and every day he delays is to Irey's advantage.;) But I warn all now that *when* it does start, depending on just how much of a threat Irey is perceived to be, it may well take "dirty politics" to a new low. :( It's the "reality" I've been concerned about since Irey announced. Since I don't *know* her personally, I had to wonder if she truly understood what she was potentially letting herself in for?

I got my answer the other night on H&C, when Mr. Hannity asked her the same thing. It wasn't the answer, a very simple yes, but the tone of her voice and the look on her face that told me what I'd wanted to know. She *knows* what I'm talking about and is prepared. Yup, things are going to get *mighty* interesting over the next few months.:)




30 posted on 08/08/2006 10:05:02 AM PDT by Mrs. Ranger (lamenting the death of "common sense" - vote Irey)
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To: Mrs. Ranger

Okay, fine. Someone in his campaign is nervous. :-)


31 posted on 08/08/2006 10:13:08 AM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: Coop

"Okay, fine. Someone in his campaign is nervous. :-)"

Well I just don't want you to get complacent. You ain't seen nothin' yet. ;)


32 posted on 08/08/2006 10:36:34 AM PDT by Mrs. Ranger (lamenting the death of "common sense" - vote Irey)
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To: Mrs. Ranger; smoothsailing; IPWGOP; xpertskir; Just A Nobody; jazusamo
By the way, I was just sent a letter sent out by MoveOn.org. They are quite nervous about Murtha. Not so much because of Diana Irey, but because of the "Swiftboat veterans" [sic]. I'll try to post it later.
33 posted on 08/08/2006 10:44:25 AM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: Mrs. Ranger; Coop
but the tone of her voice and the look on her face that told me what I'd wanted to know.

MoveOn.org. They are quite nervous about Murtha.

Good news and Good news!

34 posted on 08/08/2006 10:58:01 AM PDT by jazusamo (DIANA IREY for Congress, PA 12th District: Retire murtha.)
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To: Mrs. Ranger
Since I don't *know* her personally, I had to wonder if she truly understood what she was potentially letting herself in for?

I got my answer the other night on H&C, when Mr. Hannity asked her the same thing. It wasn't the answer, a very simple yes, but the tone of her voice and the look on her face that told me what I'd wanted to know. She *knows* what I'm talking about and is prepared.

You are right.......she *knows*

35 posted on 08/08/2006 1:16:47 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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36 posted on 08/10/2006 9:03:57 AM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: Coop

BTTT


37 posted on 08/10/2006 9:17:13 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: Mrs. Ranger
Ditto. After pasting Colmes, it's apparent she's up to the challenge.
She's Dianamite!
38 posted on 08/10/2006 10:16:45 AM PDT by Sisku Hanne (*Support DIANA IREY for US Congress!* Send "Cut-n-Run" Murtha packing: HIT THE ROAD, JACK!)
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