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Top 10 Reasons Islam Might Not Be a Religion of Peace
Chron Watch ^ | Thursday, August 31, 2006

Posted on 08/31/2006 2:51:01 AM PDT by PRePublic

Top 10 Reasons Islam Might Not Be a Religion of Peace

Written by Don Feder
Thursday, August 31, 2006

A passenger revolt occurred on a Malaga-Manchester flight.  Vacationing Brits refused to fly with two Arabic-speaking men.  This came in the wake of arrests of 21 British-born Muslims who were plotting to blow up as many as 11 trans-Atlantic flights.

 

A spokesman for Britain’s opposition Tory party said the passengers panicked into “behaving irrationally.”  Fancy that, not wanting to fly with members of a faith whose adherents keep trying to blow things up.  Oh, how irrational!

 

Within days of this incident, a Lebanese student was arrested for trying to plant bombs on German trains.  In India, meanwhile, a group with alleged ties to al-Qaeda threatened to blow up the 17th century Taj Mahal.

 

If Muslims make travelers nervous, it’s not without cause.

 

Would you be more likely to have an anxiety attack at 20,000 feet if the passenger seated next to you was: A) An Irish nun saying the Rosary? B) A Mormon missionary in regulation white shirt and narrow, black tie? C) A Hari Krishna in a standard-issue saffron robe? or D) A bearded bloke of Middle Eastern complexion holding a well-thumbed Koran?

 

When you hear of a terrorist incident, is the first thought that pops into your head: Probably some crazy Muslim?  Guess what?  It probably was some crazy Muslim!

 

Guessing the religion of those who plant bombs, highjack planes, fire into crowds of civilians, take hostages, and murder hostages is the world’s ultimate no-brainer.

 

And yet our leaders, the media, and many of us pretend there’s absolutely no connection between psychopathic, ideological killers and the religion which exalts the slaughter of unbelievers.

 

To counter confusion here, a la Letterman, I humbly offer The Top 10 Reasons Why It’s Quite Possible That Islam Isn’t Exactly a Religion of Peace.

 

#1 While it’s certainly true that not all Muslims are terrorists, it’s equally true that most terrorists are Muslims.

 

Think about the really ghastly terrorist incidents over the past two decades: the 1983 Beirut Marine barracks bombing (242 dead), the 1988 Pam Am 103 bombing (259 dead), the 1993 World Trade Center attack (6 dead, more than 1,000 injured), the 1994 bombing of the Buenos Aires Jewish Center (86 dead), the 1998 bombing of U.S. embassies in Nairobi and Dar es Salaam (291 dead, 5,000 wounded), the 2000 attack on the U.S.S. Cole (17 dead), September 11, 2001 (over 3,000 killed), the 2002 Moscow theater hostage-taking (94 dead), the 2004 Beslan school hostage crisis (344 dead), the 2004 Madrid train bombings (192 dead), the 2005 London underground bombings (56 dead) and the 2006 commuter train bombings in Mumbai--formerly Bombay--(at least 200 dead).

 

In each and every case, the killers were …?  That is correct, sir: Muslims!  What other religion condones savagery committed in its name?  Jesus said turn the other cheek.  Muhammed said cut off the other guy’s cheek.  The Torah says show kindness to strangers.  The Koran says: If you can’t convert them, kill them.

 

#2 Muslims don’t play well with other children.  Wherever there’s religious bloodshed anywhere in the world, it’s invariably Muslims versus someone else.  Could this be a coincidence?

 

Israel, Gaza and Lebanon – Muslims verses Jews. Kashmir – Muslims vs. Hindus. Kosovo/Bosnia – Muslims vs. Serbian Orthodox. Nigeria, the Sudan – Muslims versus Christians. Indonesia – Muslims vs. Christians. Myanmar – Muslims vs. Buddhists. The Northern Caucuses– Chechen Muslims against Russia Orthodox, and so on.

 

Inquiring minds want to know why the “religion of peace” can’t behave peaceably with any other religion.

 

Answer: Islam remains what it was at its beginning 1,300 years ago: a violent, expansionist faith that will tolerate no competitors.  What other religion has the concept of jihad (holy war) – the notion that if you die fighting for Allah you get 72 virgins (exhausting as that must be) in Paradise?  Muhammed started by eliminating the competition – annihilating Jewish tribes in the Arabian Peninsula. More than a millennium latter, it’s still business as usual for his successors.

 

3. For Muslims, violence and threats of violence are always the first resort to any perceived insult or injury.

 

Recall the Muslim response to Danish cartoons of their beloved prophet.  The Danish embassy in Beirut was burned to the ground. There were death threats against the cartoonists and the editors of papers that published the cartoons. (In London, protestors held signs proclaiming “Those who insult Islam should die” and “Europe is a disease. Islam is the cure.”)

 

In rioting in Nigeria, Libya, Pakistan, and Afghanistan, 139 died.  Protestors were particularly offended by the implication of the cartoons – that Muhammed and his religion encourage murder and mayhem.  The irony of “They say Islam promotes violence?  For that they should die!” was lost on demonstrators.

 

4. Islam is virulently anti-Semitic.

 

Jews have been described as the miner’s canary of the world. Those who start with the Jews never stop there.  The 20th century’s mass murderers--the Nazis and communists--saw Jews as a special threat.  Hitler killed 6 million Jews--as well as millions of non-Jews.

 

The Koran connects genocide to the end times: “The last hour will not come before the Muslims fight the Jews and the Muslims kill them, so Jews will hide behind stones and trees and the Stone and the tree  will say ‘O Muslim, ‘O servant of God!  There is a Jew behind me; come and kill him.’” Muhammed called Jews “the descendants of apes and pigs.”

 

Every anti-Semitic canard in history has currency in the Muslim world, including the Blood Libel (that Jews murder non-Jewish children and use their blood to bake Passover matzo) and The Protocols of the Elders of Zion (“exposing” a Jewish conspiracy to subdue humanity).

 

Jew-hatred is a staple of Muslim rhetoric.

 

In a recent interview with the Egyptian weekly Al-Ahram, Gen. Hamid Gul (former head of Pakistani Intelligence) said Mel Gibson was right, “Jews cause all the wars.” Egyptian Mufti Sheikh Ali Gum’a says the war in Lebanon once again exposed the “Hebrew entity” (Israel) as “the bloodsuckers… who prepare matzos from human blood.” In Britain, popular Islamic cleric Sheikh Abdullah el-Faisal (a Jamaican convert) tells audiences “Jews should be killed… as by Hitler.”

 

When he met John Paul II in 2001, Syrian President-for-Life Bashar Assad told the pontiff that the Jews "try to kill all the principles of divine faith with the same mentality of betraying Jesus and torturing him." 

 

And Adb al-Rahman al-Sudais, sheikh of Mecca’s Grand Mosque, in Islam’s holiest city, calls Jews “the scum of the earth,” and calls for the genocide of a people who are, in the sheikh’s words, “an ongoing continuum of deceit, obstinacy, licentiousness, evil and corruption.”

 

Muslims really have a hard time deciding whether the Holocaust: 1) Never happened 2) Is grossly exaggerated or 3) Didn’t go far enough.

 

#5 – Public Opinion in the Muslim World Is Scary.

 

Muslim public opinion can be summarized as acid hatred, chauvinism and revenge fantasies--leavened with paranoia.  In the five years since 9/11, polls consistently show that, irrefutable evidence to the contrary notwithstanding, worldwide, a majority of Muslims believe the World Trade Center attack couldn’t possibly have been committed by Arab Muslims.

 

Naturally, they attribute the crime to “Zionists.”  If someone wrote a book titled “How to Fly a Plane Into a Skyscraper Whilst Using Human Blood to Bake Matzos: A Zionist Training Manual,” it would top the Tehran Bestsellers List.

 

#6 –Generally, the more Muslim a nation, the more lunatic and dangerous it is.

 

Think Iran.  Think Saudi Arabia.  Think Afghanistan while the Taliban was in power.

 

Think of the fate of women in these regimes--consigned to the status of breeding stock.  Think of their attitudes toward democracy, civil liberties and minority rights:  No way, Jamal.

 

As a rule, the more a nation is governed by Islamic law and customs, the more it hates the West, supports terrorism (Iran’s support for Hezbollah, Syria's support for Hamas, Al Qaeda training camps in Taliban Afghanistan.  Radical mosques in the United States financed by the Saudis), and covets weapons of mass jihad (witness Iran’s nuclear program).

 

If Islam is the religion of peace, where is its St. Francis of Assisi, Mahatma Gandhi, Martin Luther King, Jr., and Mother Teresa? Where are the Islamic equivalents of the Quakers and Jehovah’s Witnesses?

 

Far from making rulers more enlightened, Islam specializes in the mass production of Ayatollah Khomeinis, Osama bin Ladens, Mullah Omars, Hafez Assads, and Saddam Husseins.

 

#7 – When a young Muslim becomes more involved with his religion, his thoughts often stray to suicide bombing.

 

I was in London when the latest terrorist conspiracy went down.  On the evening news, I heard a BBC reporter interviewing a neighbor of one of the suspects.  “He was a good lad,” the neighbor opined.  “Played football” (British soccer). “Recently, he became very involved with his religion” (hint: not the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints).

 

How often have we heard those fatal words?  Born-again Christians witness and do good works.  Born-again Muslims work with liquid explosives.

 

Converts to a cause are usually the most enthusiastic.  Paul became Christianity’s first missionary and foremost proselytizer.

 

Converts to Islam frequently end up shooting total strangers (John Muhammad and Lee Malvo), try to detonate planes with explosives in their shoes (Richard Reid), fight against their country (American Taliban John Walker Lindh), and frag fellow GIs (Hassan Akbar ). When was the last time you heard of a Jewish convert going after civilians with a high-powered rifle, or a Catholic convert waging jihad to avenge Thomas Moore?

 

Religion usually makes people better (kinder, more compassionate, and more tolerant).  The religion of peace is the exception to the rule. You might say that Islam is to religion as rap is to music.

 

#8 – Islam isn’t minority friendly.

 

In Freedom House’s 2006 Global Survey, of the eight countries with the worst human rights records, five are Muslim:  Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Libya, Syria and Sudan.  The other three--Cuba, North Korea and Burma--are communist dictatorships. Cuba and North Korea are frequently aligned with radical Muslim regimes.

 

Which would you rather be: a Muslim living in Tel Aviv or a Jew living in Tehran?  A Coptic Christian in Egypt or an Egyptian Muslim in Rome?  An Orthodox Serb in Muslim Kosovo or a Turk in Germany?

 

Islam has the concept of the dhimmi (non-Moslem living under Islam), which is several steps below blacks in the Jim Crow South--though slightly better than Jews in Nazi Germany.

 

#9 – Where Have All the Moderate Muslims Gone--Long Time Passing?

 

If suicide bombers are radical Muslims, apologists for suicide bombers must be moderate Muslims.  (In a letter to Tony Blair following the unraveling of the latest plot, 40 Muslim community leaders--including six members of Parliament--claimed Britain’s foreign policy gave “ammunition to extremists.”)

 

If someone slaughtered hundreds of innocents in the name of Christianity, everyone from the Pope and Billy Graham to your parish priest or local pastor would denounce the crime as an obscenity--without reference to the fall of Constantinople.

 

Hardly a day goes by that evil isn’t perpetrated in the name of Islam somewhere in the world.  When it comes to denouncing same, moderate Muslims are mostly AWOL.

 

Occasionally, we’ll hear from a Muslim not mired in the Dark Ages.  Usually, they’re wondering where all of the other moderate Muslims are.  One is Irshad Manji, a fellow at Yale University and the author of “The Trouble With Islam Today: A Muslim’s Call for Reform in Her Faith.”

 

Ms Manji can author such a book while safely ensconced in New Haven.  If she wrote a book suggesting--or even hinting--that Islam is less than perfection, while residing anywhere in the Muslim world, she’d be dead.  In fact, in many parts of the Islamic world, a woman can get in serious trouble for reading a book.

 

# 10 – Islam is bent on global conquest.

 

“Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faiths, but to become dominant.  The Koran … should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth.” – Omar Ahmad, founder of the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR).

 

“Islam will return to Europe.  The conquest need not necessarily be by the sword.  Perhaps we will conquer these lands without armies.  We want an army of preachers and teachers who will present Islam in all languages and all dialects.” Dr. Al-Qaradawi, Egyptian-born, Qatar-based spiritual leader of the Muslim Brotherhood.

 

“The Muslims are required to raise the banner of jihad in order to make the Word of Allah supreme in the world.” -posting on the website of the Islamic Affairs Department of the Saudi government. (These oil-rich fascists control roughly 80% of U.S. mosques.)

 

“Islam is advancing according to a steady plan, to the point that tens of thousands of Muslims have joined the American army and Islam is the second largest religion in America. America will be destroyed. But we must be patient.” -Saudi Professor Nassar bin Suleiman al-Omar on al-Majd TV.

 

Within 100 years of Muhammed’s death, Islam had conquered the Middle East and spread across North Africa before it was finally stopped in southern France.  Today, due to immigration, one in every 10 Frenchmen is a Muslim and an estimated 50,000 convert to Islam each year.

 

In Britain, with 1.5 million Muslims, attendance at mosques is higher than at services for the Church of England.  Islam is spreading down both coasts of Africa--in Nigeria, Kenya, the Sudan, and Ethiopia--as well as in the Balkans, former Soviet republics, Asia, and the Philippines.

 

Whether they bury us with swords, explosives, or immigration and procreation, the fate Islam has in store for us is the same.

 

If you don’t get it, you’re not paying attention. Or, perhaps your religion (liberalism) blinds you to the truth.

 

Islam is: A) A religion of peace B) A religion of rest in peace C) A religion that leaves you in pieces or D) A religion that wants a piece of what you have now--the rest later?

About the Writer: Don Feder is a former Boston Herald writer and syndicated columnist, currently making a modest living as a political/media consultant and free-lance writer. He's the author of "Who's Afraid of The Religious Right" and "A Jewish Conservative Looks at Pagan America." His writings can be found at http://www.donfeder.com.

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1 posted on 08/31/2006 2:51:03 AM PDT by PRePublic
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To: PRePublic; All
Click the picture ( but be warned, it's brutal ):

I've been trying to wake people up to this menace for many years:
( Notice anything familiar about this salute? )

Islam, a Religion of Peace®? ( links, blogs, quips, quotes, aggravating pictures ) is located here- click the Picture, and scroll backwards:

Better look up your local mosque

...and the barbarians are already inside our gates. ...and at our neighbour's gates, as well:

Terror Strike Toronto ( Aborted! )-- Click the picture:


2 posted on 08/31/2006 3:10:16 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: backhoe

Excellent post. Have bookmarked and will forward it to friends.


3 posted on 08/31/2006 3:41:06 AM PDT by proudofthesouth (Mao said that power comes at the point of a rifle; I say FREEDOM does.)
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To: proudofthesouth

Appreciate that- thank you.


4 posted on 08/31/2006 3:42:45 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: PRePublic; SJackson; Alouette

ping, this is good.


5 posted on 08/31/2006 3:55:29 AM PDT by Esther Ruth (Behold, he that keepeth Israel shall neither slumber nor sleep. The LORD is thy keeper!)
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To: BipolarBob

ping for later


6 posted on 08/31/2006 4:17:03 AM PDT by BipolarBob (I get homesick when I look up in the skies and see my home planet.)
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To: PRePublic
Wherever there’s religious bloodshed anywhere in the world, it’s invariably Muslims versus someone else.

This is true only in the sense that non-Muslims nowadays rarely kill for religion, but for ideology (but there are exceptions, as in Ireland). Muslims were only tangentially involved in the Holocaust, which was overwhelmingly the work of professed Christians. As far as I know, Muslims were not concerned at all in Stalin's massacres, except as victims.

7 posted on 08/31/2006 4:40:48 AM PDT by Christopher Lincoln
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To: upier

ping


8 posted on 08/31/2006 5:23:56 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Christopher Lincoln

I believe he is referring to the current state of the world, not WWII era, when he says "its invariably Muslims versus someone else".


9 posted on 08/31/2006 6:18:32 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Amnesia is a train of thought.)
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To: Personal Responsibility

ping


10 posted on 08/31/2006 7:05:27 AM PDT by Shimmer128 (kŻlia i ka nu`u.)
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To: Hap
Every anti-Semitic canard in history has currency in the Muslim world, including the Blood Libel (that Jews murder non-Jewish children and use their blood to bake Passover matzo)

I haven't eaten tons of matzo, but I have tried it, and if it's what I'm thinking about, it's pretty darn bland. If blood were baked into it, wouldn't one taste it?

I'd think this "argument" would be pretty easily refutable by a trip to the matzo bakery.
11 posted on 08/31/2006 7:13:20 AM PDT by Xenalyte (No movie shall triumph over "Snakes on a Plane.")
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To: PRePublic
When was the last time you heard of a Jewish convert going after civilians with a high-powered rifle, or a Catholic convert waging jihad to avenge Thomas More?

Maybe it's just the Rennie in me, but I find that image hilarious.
12 posted on 08/31/2006 7:15:07 AM PDT by Xenalyte (No movie shall triumph over "Snakes on a Plane.")
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To: PRePublic

bttt


13 posted on 08/31/2006 7:16:55 AM PDT by MattinNJ (The paleocon's paleocon.)
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To: Salem; F15Eagle; American in Israel; RoadTest; ArrogantBustard; Pyro7480; AnAmericanMother; NYer; ..

Don Feder nails it - ping!


14 posted on 08/31/2006 7:26:20 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (Mid East Ceasefire = Israel ceases but her enemies fire)
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To: backhoe

LOL at that newspaper pix.

Again, they can't find a "common denominator", huh?


Here, a few years ago with our DC snipers, they brought out pix of some other individual hellions and said "the common denominator is Military"!

LOL!

They did a double-whammy in 1 phrase - blaming the US military branches, and ignoring the fact that all these little miscreants were MOSLEMS!


15 posted on 08/31/2006 7:52:13 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: PRePublic
It's a good article (and to the point) but it's full of typos and errors. Two examples at random: it's Caucasus, not Caucuses, it's Thomas More, not Thomas Moore (the latter was an Irish poet, not an English martyr.)

I mention this only because if an article has such errors, those who need to be convinced will discount it as sloppy in ALL particulars, not just proofreading.

16 posted on 08/31/2006 8:11:29 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: Christopher Lincoln

NAZIs and Commies don't much care about religion; many of them may have been born into traditionally Christian cultures, but their killings had nothing to do with being Christian and everything to do with their (separate) ideology. They didn't shout "In the name of the most-high Jesus" with every killing.

This is the same equivocation (trying to make Christianity as bad as Islam) as those including media who were so quick to point out that Tim McVeigh "was a Christian" - which curiously they never *bothered* mentioning BEFORE 9/11. (Because it was *irrelevent* to why he did it.)


17 posted on 08/31/2006 8:19:49 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: PRePublic

Thanks for the link, alot of good articles there.


18 posted on 08/31/2006 8:31:23 AM PDT by Delphinium
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To: PRePublic
(In a letter to Tony Blair following the unraveling of the latest plot, 40 Muslim community leaders--including six members of Parliament--claimed Britain’s foreign policy gave “ammunition to extremists.”)

Funny, here we go again.... http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1693140/posts

19 posted on 08/31/2006 8:41:08 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: Convert from ECUSA

It rates an "Allahu fubar!"


20 posted on 08/31/2006 8:49:41 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Berosus; Cincinatus' Wife; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; FairOpinion; ...
In India, meanwhile, a group with alleged ties to al-Qaeda threatened to blow up the 17th century Taj Mahal.
That eyesore?!? World Heritage Site my kazoo! Blow it up, and get a million or so cinder blocks to put up a mosque on the site!
21 posted on 08/31/2006 9:04:22 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Thursday, August 10, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: PRePublic

22 posted on 08/31/2006 10:20:17 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative ("An empty limousine pulled up and Hillary Clinton got out")
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To: PRePublic

Great post.


23 posted on 08/31/2006 2:23:01 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: SunkenCiv

The Tajmahal is Tejomahalay
A Hindu Temple
By P.N.Oak




Probably there is no one who has been duped at least once in a life time. But can the whole world can be duped? This may seem impossible. But in the matter of indian and world history the world can be duped in many respects for hundreds of years and still continues to be duped. The world famous Tajmahal is a glaring instance. For all the time, money and energy that people over the world spend in visiting the Tajmahal, they are dished out of concoction. Contrary to what visitors are made to believe the Tajmahal is not a Islamic mausoleum but an ancient Shiva Temple known as Tejo Mahalaya which the 5th generation moghul emperor Shahjahan commandeered from the then Maharaja of Jaipur. The Tajmahal, should therefore, be viewed as a temple palace and not as a tomb. That makes a vast difference. You miss the details of its size, grandeur, majesty and beauty when you take it to be a mere tomb. When told that you are visiting a temple palace you wont fail to notice its annexes, ruined defensive walls, hillocks, moats, cascades, fountains, majestic garden, hundreds of rooms archaded verendahs, terraces, multi stored towers, secret sealed chambers, guest rooms, stables, the trident (Trishul) pinnacle on the dome and the sacred, esoteric Hindu letter "OM" carved on the exterior of the wall of the sanctum sanctorum now occupied by the centotaphs. For detailed proof of this breath taking discovery,you may read the well known historian Shri. P. N. Oak's celebrated book titled " Tajmahal : The True Story". But let us place before you, for the time being an exhaustive summary of the massive evidence ranging over hundred points:

http://www.hindunet.org/hindu_history/modern/taj_oak.html


24 posted on 08/31/2006 3:56:09 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (ENEMY + MEDIA = ENEMEDIA)
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To: Christopher Lincoln

Overwhelmingly the work of professed Christians? Like Hitler? You're being sarcastic, right?


25 posted on 08/31/2006 4:13:50 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Fred Nerks

Very interesting, I've read about this before. Many of the mosques in greater India were formerly Hindu temples. Just as many (most) of the Muslims' ancesters were Hindus, Buddhists etc forced into Islam.


26 posted on 08/31/2006 4:15:53 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: backhoe; PRePublic; SJackson; yonif; Simcha7; American in Israel; Slings and Arrows; ...
"I've been trying to wake people up to this menace for many years:"

Keep hammerin' on them, bud. In my part of the world you're famous!  !







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27 posted on 08/31/2006 4:23:21 PM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: PRePublic
Because It's In The Koran

28 posted on 08/31/2006 4:36:13 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: PRePublic

urk.


29 posted on 08/31/2006 4:40:35 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Moderate Bumper Sticker: Bush Lied, Terrorists Died!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Thanks for that lowdown on the Taj Mahal.

Recently I saw some news headline about Muslims wanting to blow it up.
My reaction was "WTF?!...That's a Muslim building! And there aren't any
Buddhist statues in it!"


30 posted on 08/31/2006 4:48:01 PM PDT by VOA
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To: VOA
The islamofascists obviously know their own history better than we do. Islam is parasitic. I recall a documentary in which a Sikh said 'they have taken more than three thousand temples from us - if they do not allow us to take them back, we will tear them down brick by brick' ...

And with that statement as the cue, an entire village of people, with picks and shovels, some with sticks or bare hands, began to demolish a 'mosque' - pity I cannot recall the name of the town this took place in. Must do some research...

St Catherine's Monastery at the foot of Mount Sinai also has within it's precincts a mosque - I have heard the monastery referred to as 'holy to islam' - there exists a document apparently, an agreement written by mohammad himself, allowing the monastery to exist in 'peace' as long as St Catherine's accepted islam as one of the 'great religions' ... in other words, the monastery accepted dhimmitude. More research!

As nothing would surprise me coming from islam, a malignancy greater than any disease, equaled only by the finality of death itself...I can imagine one day, knowing the obscenity constructed on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem might ultimately also come under attack. Hezb'allah for example, would be more than capable of its destruction - to blame on Israel!

http://www.jdl.org/israel/claim.shtml


the Al Aksa mosque was built on the Temple Mount 621 years after Mohammed's death.
31 posted on 08/31/2006 5:33:57 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (ENEMY + MEDIA = ENEMEDIA)
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To: VOA

The Fatimid Mosque, which lies within the walls of St. Catherine's Monastery

St. Catherine's Monastery

Located at the foot of Mount Moses, St. Catherine's Monastery, was constructed by order of the Emperor Justinian between 527 and 565. Is built around what is thought to be Moses' Burning Bush, which has a chapel built atop it. It is a spectacular natural setting for priceless works of art, including Arab mosaics, Greek and Russian icons, Western oil paintings, paintings on wax, fine sacerdotal ornaments, marbles, enamels, chalices, reliquaries, including one donated by Czar Alexander II in the 19th century, and another by Empress Catherine of Russia in the 17th century. But of perhaps even greater significance is that it is the second largest collection of illuminated manuscripts (The Vatican has the largest). The collection consists of some 3,500 volumes in Greek, Coptic, Arabic, Armenian, Hebrew, Slavic, Syriac, Georgian and other languages. Around the year 1850, the fourth century Codex Sinaiticus, which is now in the British Museum in London, was discovered here. The Monastery even has a small 10th or 11th century mosque which was probably built to appease the Islamic authorities of the time. There is also a small chapel (the Chapel of St. Triphone, also known as the Skull House) which houses the skulls of deceased monks.

http://interoz.com/egypt/Catherines.htm

There's no doubt about it, islam lies about everything. The doco I saw on the above, only last night, showed a document supposedly written by mohammed...but the mosque wasn't erected until several hundred years after his death.

It's the same story all over again. If a muslim tells you it's raining, he's probably peeing on your leg. (That's an aussie saying. It fits well!)

32 posted on 08/31/2006 6:02:09 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (ENEMY + MEDIA = ENEMEDIA)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

I don't think Tim McVeigh believed in much of anything, let alone Christianity. No clergyman was present at his execution, as far as I know, and his last words, in the form of a written statement, included the humanist verse, "I'm the master of my fate, I'm the captain of my soul."


33 posted on 08/31/2006 6:46:34 PM PDT by Berosus ("There is no beauty like Jerusalem, no wealth like Rome, no depravity like Arabia."--the Talmud)
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FRmail me to be added or removed from this Judaic/pro-Israel/Russian Jewry ping list.

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34 posted on 08/31/2006 6:46:59 PM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 39-43)
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To: Fred Nerks

I should have known. This definitely explains why the terrorists want to get rid of it.


35 posted on 08/31/2006 10:20:44 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Thursday, August 10, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: PRePublic
a majority of Muslims believe the World Trade Center attack couldn’t possibly have been committed by Arab Muslims...

But they all wish they had. Go figure that.

Just like Ahmadinejad: "There was no Holocaust but move the Jews to Germany because it was the German's fault because we might do something horrible to the Jews ourselves." huh? Let me debate this I'm-a-doofus-nutjob.
36 posted on 08/31/2006 10:39:29 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: PRePublic
All of em rolled into one...

MUSLIMS INSTRUCTED TO KILL CHRISTIANS AND JEWS [9:29-30] JUST FOR SPEAKING AGAINST ISLAM [9:32]!

KORAN [9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.

KORAN [9.30] And the Jews say: Uzair [Ezra] is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!

FREEDOM OF SPEECH IS PROHIBITED:

KORAN [9.32] They desire to put out the light of Allah with their mouths, and Allah will not consent save to perfect His light, though the unbelievers are averse.

THIS IS MUHAMMAD'S EXAMPLE JUSTIFYING THE KILLING OF DUTCH FILM MAKER THEO van GOGH:

Hadith Sahih Muslim, Book 19, Chapter 41: THE MURDER OF KA'B B. ASHRAF, (THE EVIL GENIUS) OF THE JEWS [for authoring songs and jokes about Muhammad]

HADITH Sahih Muslim [19:4436] It has been narrated on the authority of Jabir that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said:
Who will kill Ka'b b. Ashraf? He has maligned Allah, the Exalted, and His Messenger. Muhammad b. Maslama said: Messenger of Allah, do you wish that I should kill him? He said: Yes.
He said: Permit me to talk (to him in the way I deem fit). He said: Talk (as you like). So, Muhammad b. Maslama came to Ka'b and talked to him, referred to the old friendship between them and said: This man (i. e. the Holy Prophet) has made up his mind to collect charity (from us) and this has put us to a great hardship. When be heard this, Ka'b said: By God, you will be put to more trouble by him. Muhammad b. Maslama said: No doubt, now we have become his followers and we do not like to forsake him until we see what turn his affairs will take. I want that you should give me a loan. He said: What will you mortgage? He said: What do you want? He said: Pledge me your women. He said: You are the most handsome of the Arabs; should we pledge our women to you? He said: Pledge me your children. He said: The son of one of us may abuse us saying that he was pledged for two wasqs of dates, but we can pledge you (cur) weapons. He said: All right. Then Muhammad b. Maslama promised that he would come to him with Harith, Abu 'Abs b. Jabr and Abbad b. Bishr. So they came and called upon him at night. He came down to them. Sufyan says that all the narrators except 'Amr have stated that his wife said: I hear a voice which sounds like the voice of murder. He said: It is only Muhammad b. Maslama and his foster-brother, Abu Na'ila. When a gentleman is called at night even it to be pierced with a spear, he should respond to the call. Muhammad said to his companions: As he comes down, I will extend my hands towards his head and when I hold him fast, you should do your job. So when he came down and he was holding his cloak under his arm, they said to him: We sense from you a very fine smell. He said: Yes, I have with me a mistress who is the most scented of the women of Arabia. He said: Allow me to smell (the scent on your head). He said: Yes, you may smell. So he caught it and smelt. Then he said: Allow me to do so (once again). He then held his head fast and said to his companions: Do your job. And they killed him.

APOSTATES AND "young people with foolish thoughts"
TO BE KILLED BY ANYONE WHO FINDS THEM (e.g. honor killings):

KORAN [4.89] They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:260] Narrated Ikrima:
Ali burnt some people and this news reached Ibn 'Abbas, who said, "Had I been in his place I would not have burnt them, as the Prophet said, 'Don't punish (anybody) with Allah's Punishment.' No doubt, I would have killed them, for the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' "

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [6:61:577] Narrated 'Ali:
I heard the Prophet saying, "In the last days (of the world) there will appear young people with foolish thoughts and ideas. They will give good talks, but they will go out of Islam as an arrow goes out of its game, their faith will not exceed their throats. So, wherever you find them, kill them, for there will be a reward for their killers on the Day of Resurrection."

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [9:84:64] Narrated 'Ali:
Whenever I tell you a narration from Allah's Apostle, by Allah, I would rather fall down from the sky than ascribe a false statement to him, but if I tell you something between me and you (not a Hadith) then it was indeed a trick (i.e., I may say things just to cheat my enemy). No doubt I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "During the last days there will appear some young foolish people who will say the best words but their faith will not go beyond their throats (i.e. they will have no faith) and will go out from (leave) their religion as an arrow goes out of the game. So, where-ever you find them, kill them, for who-ever kills them shall have reward on the Day of Resurrection."

AND MODERATE MUSLIMS TOO:

HADITH Sahih Muslim [5:2325] Abu Sa'id al-Khudri reported that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said:
A group would secede itself (from the Ummah) when there would be dissension among the Muslims. Out of the two groups who would be nearer the truth would kill them.

Unlike Christians, Muslims can pretend to deny their faith to fool unbelievers (Al-Taqiyyah):

KORAN [16.106] He who disbelieves in Allah after his having believed, not he who is compelled while his heart is at rest on account of faith, but he who opens (his) breast to disbelief-- on these is the wrath of Allah, and they shall have a grievous chastisement.

UNEQUAL JUSTICE:

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:283] Narrated Abu Juhaifa:
I asked Ali, "Do you have the knowledge of any Divine Inspiration besides what is in Allah's Book?" 'Ali replied, "...we have what is written in this paper as well." I asked, "What is written in this paper?" He replied, "...the judgment that no Muslim should be killed for killing an infidel."

HADITH Sunan Abu Dawud [14:2526] Narrated Anas ibn Malik:
The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Three things are the roots of faith: to refrain from (killing) a person who utters, "There is no god but Allah" and not to declare him unbeliever whatever sin he commits, and not to excommunicate him from Islam for his any action; and jihad will be performed continuously since the day Allah sent me as a prophet until the day the last member of my community will fight with the Dajjal (Antichrist). The tyranny of any tyrant and the justice of any just (ruler) will not invalidate it. One must have faith in Divine decree.

WOMEN (and girls) IN ISLAM:

KORAN [2.223] Your wives are a tilth for you, so go into your tilth when you like, and do good beforehand for yourselves, and be careful (of your duty) to Allah, and know that you will meet Him, and give good news to the believers.

KORAN [4.34] Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [7:62:67] Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Prophet said, "A matron should not be given in marriage except after consulting her; and a virgin should not be given in marriage except after her permission." The people asked, "O Allah's Apostle! How can we know her permission?" He said, "Her silence (indicates her permission)."

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [5:58:234] Narrated Aisha:
The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Allright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age.

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [7:62:64] Narrated 'Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).

THE JOOOOOOZ IN ISLAM:

KORAN [9.30] And the Jews say: Uzair [Ezra] is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!

KORAN [5.51] O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:176] Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:
Allah's Apostle said, "You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.' "

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:177] Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:56:791] Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:
I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "The Jews will fight with you, and you will be given victory over them so that a stone will say, 'O Muslim! There is a Jew behind me; kill him!' "

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6981] Ibn 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
You will fight against the Jews and you will kill them until even a stone would say: Come here, Muslim, there is a Jew (hiding himself behind me); kill him.

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6982] Ubaidullah has reported this hadith with this chain of transmitters (and the Words are):
"There is a Jew behind me."

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6983] Abdullah b. 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
You and the Jews would fight against one another until a stone would say: Muslim, here is a Jew behind me; come and kill him.

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6984] Abdullah b. 'Umar reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said:
The Jews will fight against you and you will gain victory over them until the stone would say: Muslim, here is a Jew behind me; kill him.

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6985] Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.

© Religion of Peace

KORAN (Shakir translation): http://www.hti.umich.edu/k/koran/
HADITH: http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/reference/searchhadith.html

ISLAM DELENDA EST!

37 posted on 08/31/2006 10:43:31 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: Christopher Lincoln
"Muslims were only tangentially involved in the Holocaust, which was overwhelmingly the work of professed Christians."

Dear Christopher Lincoln:

Abe Lincoln you are not. He was honest, you are full of shiite. The Nazis were no more Christian that was Stalin and his Communists. Both regimes slaughtered Christians, especially priests and other clergy and religious. Hitler himself became an atheist after getting tossed out of Catholic school in his youth. Hitler incarcerated over 2,000 Catholic priests in Polish Concentration Camps and had hundreds of them murdered. He threw hundreds, perhaps thousands, of Catholic clergy into concentration camps in Germany. He killed thousands of preists, monks, and nuns in his camps.

Hitler also attacked and devastated Christian nations all over Europe, such as France, Austria, Poland, England, etc. How many American Christians died fighting the Nazis? I believe it was about 200,000. How many Christians died in Nazi concentration camps and while fighting against Hitler? Certainly millions.

38 posted on 08/31/2006 11:46:30 PM PDT by TheCrusader
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To: the OlLine Rebel
"including media who were so quick to point out that Tim McVeigh "

That's because the media are filled with humanists, secularists, Darwinists, atheists, socialists and homosexuals, so they don't know it means to be a Christian. What your parents baptized you into means nothing if you renounce your faith by walking away from it and never practicing it. But then again, the "major" media are scum-sucking liars and frauds anyway, and certainly are not trustworthy to print or report the truth.

39 posted on 08/31/2006 11:52:46 PM PDT by TheCrusader
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To: little jeremiah

I didn't say the Nazis complied with Christian doctrine, which of course they did not. What conquerer does? But Hitler is recorded to have said "I am a Catholic, and I will be one until I die", or words to that effect. Hitler's decrees explicitly declared that Nazi Germany was a Christian state. If he was insincere in this, why do it, unless it was because he knew Germany was not ready to break openly with Christianity?


40 posted on 09/01/2006 6:27:25 AM PDT by Christopher Lincoln
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To: PRePublic

Excellent, excellent post. Needs a proofreader though, and a few less spaces between paragraphs.


41 posted on 09/01/2006 6:51:08 AM PDT by agrace
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To: Christopher Lincoln; hipaatwo
Hitler, The Mufti Of Jerusalem And Modern Islamo Nazism

See also - Tell the Children the Truth

42 posted on 09/01/2006 6:55:39 AM PDT by agrace
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To: Fiddlstix

Great link. It would be quite funny if it were not so serious.


43 posted on 09/01/2006 7:05:37 AM PDT by agrace
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To: PRePublic

Bttt


44 posted on 09/01/2006 7:12:30 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (A wall first. A wall now.)
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To: Christopher Lincoln

Hitler's personal philosophy and that of Nazism in general had zero, zilch, nada, nothing in common with Christianity whatsoever and he fully rejected any Christian values or worldview early on.

Have you read "The Pink Swastika"? It's online and the foundational philosophy of Nazism is detailed.


45 posted on 09/01/2006 7:31:12 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: backhoe

Thank you SO much for posting the link to religionofpeace.com. I have been looking for a site that had all of the terrorist incidents in a format like that and here it is!!!! Awesome. I am going to tell others they can check this site. The list of atrocities is so lengthy, that alone speaks volumes!


46 posted on 09/01/2006 7:55:18 AM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: Paved Paradise

Thanks for looking.


47 posted on 09/01/2006 8:10:59 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trackball into the Sunset...)
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To: Christopher Lincoln
But Hitler is recorded to have said "I am a Catholic, and I will be one until I die", or words to that effect

I have an uncle who says he's a montana mini-van. We still can't drive him to the store though.

48 posted on 09/01/2006 8:46:17 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: Christopher Lincoln

You seem to completely miss the point, just like the media when trumping up McVeigh as "Christian" at least in birth (and again I stress, it never occurred to anyone to mention about "Christian" relations for McVeigh until AFTER 9/11).

It doesn't even matter whether the person/people in question are officially Christian, Moslem, Hindu or not. What matters is WHY THEY'RE DOING THE CRIME.

Moslems make it clear they do everything for their Allah. They kill and steal for Allah. They make it known.

McVeigh said nothing about killing for Christ. His religion (or lack thereof) had NOTHING to do with his crimes.

Going by your straw-man argument, we could by now say every religion, major and minor, is egregiously guilty of horrid crimes. Because every religion has included criminals within their ranks.

It doesn't count unless they PROFESS THEIR CRIMES ARE *IN THE NAME OF* THEIR RELIGION.

Don't understand why this is so hard to comprehend.


49 posted on 09/01/2006 9:49:09 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: little jeremiah
      And when the (muslim) Moors invaded Spain, they turned churches into mosques.
50 posted on 09/01/2006 8:04:52 PM PDT by Celtman (It's never right to do wrong to do right.)
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