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Malcolm X - gay black hero?
The Guardian ^ | Thursday May 19, 2005 | Peter Tatchell

Posted on 09/27/2006 5:49:10 PM PDT by ConservativeJen

Malcolm X was born 80 years ago today, on 19 May 1925. But amid the commemorations, controversy is brewing. Some black activists are enraged by suggestions that their hero might have been gay - or at least bisexual. The controversy has been stirring since the publication of Bruce Perry's acclaimed biography, Malcolm: The Life of a Man Who Changed Black America (Station Hill, New York) in 1991. Based on interviews with Malcolm's closest boyhood and adult friends, Perry suggests that the US black nationalist leader was not as robustly heterosexual as his Nation of Islam (NoI) colleagues have always insisted.

As for his sporadic gay hustling, as Perry notes, "there were other ways he could have earned money". Dope-dealing, thieving and pimping were sources of income he had pursued with success. There was no imperative to sell his body. Why, then, did he prostitute himself? Misogyny and repressed homosexuality might be the answer. According to Perry: "His male-to-male encounters, which rendered it unnecessary for him to compete for women, afforded him an opportunity for sexual release without the attendant risk of dependence on women."

Now it is time to blow the whistle. There is not a single world-famous black person who is openly gay. Young black lesbians and gays need role models. Who better than Malcolm X, one of the inspirations of my activism and one of the great modern heroes of black liberation?

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


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KEYWORDS: bisexual; bisexuality; blackhomosexuality; downlow; larrysinclair; malcolmx; onthedownlow
And yet the liberals bash true black role models such as Michael Steele, Condi Rice, and Ken Blackwell.
1 posted on 09/27/2006 5:49:10 PM PDT by ConservativeJen
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To: ConservativeJen

Malcolm X on the "down low?" OMGSTFULOL


2 posted on 09/27/2006 5:50:05 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: ConservativeJen

I don't want to know, it has nothing to do with anything that's remotely our business.


3 posted on 09/27/2006 5:51:12 PM PDT by Shimmer128 (My beloved is mine and I am his. Song of Solomon 1:16)
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To: ConservativeJen

He was worthless then, and he is worthless now.


4 posted on 09/27/2006 5:51:48 PM PDT by pissant
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To: ConservativeJen

I wonder if he played any "finger games" with Michael Weiner.


5 posted on 09/27/2006 5:51:53 PM PDT by Vision ("As a man thinks...so is he." Proverbs 23:7)
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To: ConservativeJen

We've got no gay role models, so let's just lie.


6 posted on 09/27/2006 5:52:03 PM PDT by kenth (There are three kinds of people in the world. Those who can count, and those who can't.)
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To: ConservativeJen

Malcom XXX !

7 posted on 09/27/2006 5:52:33 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: ConservativeJen
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8 posted on 09/27/2006 5:53:05 PM PDT by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: ConservativeJen

Wow. This story is so breaking....

(Do you know it over a year old?)


9 posted on 09/27/2006 5:57:10 PM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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To: ConservativeJen

10 posted on 09/27/2006 5:57:17 PM PDT by traditional1
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To: ConservativeJen

Please explain why you posted this article from Thursday May 19, 2005 in breaking news.


11 posted on 09/27/2006 6:20:35 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Mr. Brightside

"Wow. This story is so breaking.... "



I never heard it, this is a story that needs to get out.

Malcolm X is one the monsters of the left that has reached hero status.

The revelation that the most famous black militant, anti white hero of the anti-American left is a homo is a big deal.


12 posted on 09/27/2006 6:23:49 PM PDT by ansel12 ( sin holds a sway over their lives to the point where boldness begins to be craved.)
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To: ConservativeJen
When I was in college, the fad among some of the Black students was to wear "X" hats and clothes.

I remember asking some of them if they new the name he was born with. Nope, not a clue, but they did know that he hated the White man, and that was all that counted to them.

He was born Malcolm Little and was killed by the Nation of Islam because he disavowed them and exposed the hypocracy of "The Honorable Elisia Mohamed".

13 posted on 09/27/2006 6:24:22 PM PDT by lormand (1 - 10,000,000 people read my posts everyday)
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To: ConservativeJen

Let me guess -- Bruce Perry is a fag. Queers spend much of their time insisting that almost any famous figure was queer.


14 posted on 09/27/2006 6:27:08 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: ansel12
"I never heard it, this is a story that needs to get out."

The Guardian is nothing more than an anti-American tabloid. There's a good reason you never heard of this before, it's unlikely that it's true.

15 posted on 09/27/2006 6:28:01 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: lormand
When I was in college, the fad among some of the Black students was to wear "X" hats and clothes.

At a Country Music concert near here a few years back, I remember seeing a tee-shirt with the Confederate flag and the slogan,"You wear your X and I'll wear mine."

16 posted on 09/27/2006 6:29:56 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney (My book is out. Read excerpts at www.thejusticecooperative.com)
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To: ansel12

Planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger is a Nazi.

ACLU founder Roger Baldwin is a Communist.

Interesting? Yes. Breaking News? No.


17 posted on 09/27/2006 6:34:57 PM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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To: Mr. Brightside

"Planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger is a Nazi."



I missed that one too, who proved that?


18 posted on 09/27/2006 7:00:02 PM PDT by ansel12 ( sin holds a sway over their lives to the point where boldness begins to be craved.)
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To: Admin Moderator

because someone sent me the link on AIM and I didn't see the date


19 posted on 09/27/2006 8:29:30 PM PDT by ConservativeJen
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To: ansel12

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=margaret+sanger+nazi&btnG=Search


20 posted on 09/28/2006 4:08:16 AM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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To: Mr. Brightside

So Margaret Sanger was NOT a Nazi.


21 posted on 09/28/2006 8:35:29 AM PDT by ansel12 ( sin holds a sway over their lives to the point where boldness begins to be craved.)
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To: ansel12

She may not have been a Nazi per se, but she was definitely into eugenics which is just as bad.


22 posted on 09/28/2006 8:38:14 AM PDT by brwnsuga
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To: brwnsuga

We all know that she was into eugenics (which isn't just as bad as Nazism), but the claim had been made that she was a Nazi.

If someone could make that connection convincingly it would blow the lid off of Planned Parenthood.

In his efforts to mock a story being posted about Malcolm X being homosexual, Mr Brightside went a bridge too far.


23 posted on 09/28/2006 8:59:13 AM PDT by ansel12 ( sin holds a sway over their lives to the point where boldness begins to be craved.)
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To: ansel12

She didn't join the party, or she didn't subscribe to the principles of Naziism?

Here is just ONE example...

- She hired Ernst Rubin, a Nazi eugenicist, to write articles in her publications. Here is information from just one link on the Google search. (Did you even read any of the articles?)




The founders of Planned Parenthood had more ties to Hitler than just a shared vision. Their board of directors included avowed Nazi supporters like Dr. Lothrop Stoddard (who authored The Rising Tide of Color Against White Supremacy and another praising the Nazi sterilization law). They used their official publication to spread Nazi propaganda. In April of 1933, Birth Control Review published an article by Dr. Ernst Rubin, who was Hitler's director of genetic sterilization and a founder of the Nazi Society for Racial Hygiene. In this article Dr. Rubin wrote:


"The danger to the community of the unsegregated feeble-minded woman is more evident. Most dangerous are the middle and high grades living at large who, despite the fact that their defect is not easily recognizable, should nevertheless be prevented from procreation. . . In my view we should act without delay."

Prof. Dr. Ernst Rudin, head of Nazi Germany's eugenics program.
"Eugenics Sterlization: An Urgent Need." - Birth Control Review,
Volume XVII, Number 4 (April 1933), pp. 102-4.


24 posted on 09/28/2006 10:28:37 AM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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To: Mr. Brightside

This is a conservative web site, we know all that, you made a mistake claiming that Sanger was a Nazi.

No big deal simply admit the mistake and move on.


25 posted on 09/28/2006 10:39:54 AM PDT by ansel12 ( sin holds a sway over their lives to the point where boldness begins to be craved.)
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To: ansel12

Her you go...

I should have never inferred that Margret Sanger ever paid dues and recieved a membership card to the Hitler's National Socialst Party.

If you want to defend her as a champion of Birth Control, go ahead.

(Do you think that one needs to belong to the Communist Party to be a communist?)


26 posted on 09/28/2006 11:04:12 AM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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To: Mr. Brightside

"Planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger is a Nazi.

ACLU founder Roger Baldwin is a Communist.

Interesting? Yes. Breaking News? No."



"I should have never inferred that Margret Sanger ever paid dues and recieved a membership card to the Hitler's National Socialst Party.

If you want to defend her as a champion of Birth Control, go ahead."








I'll assume that you are doing the best you can, so what the heck, I accept that you have corrected your post.


27 posted on 09/28/2006 11:19:13 AM PDT by ansel12 ( sin holds a sway over their lives to the point where boldness begins to be craved.)
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To: ansel12

So, are you defending her?

Sounds like I struck a nerve.


28 posted on 09/28/2006 11:29:01 AM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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To: lormand
He was born Malcolm Little and was killed by the Nation of Islam because he disavowed them and exposed the hypocracy of "The Honorable Elisia Mohamed".

I had heard long ago that 'The Honorable Elisia Mohamed' was a big time bone smoker.

Maybe he and X had a lover's spat.

29 posted on 09/28/2006 11:36:40 AM PDT by Ditto
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To: Mr. Brightside

"So, are you defending her?

Sounds like I struck a nerve."



Your approach to correcting a mistake you made on this thread is bizarre.

Normally I wouldn't respond, but in this case I found your attempts to twist your anger into a personal attack on me especially amusing.

Just two hours ago a minister and pro-life activist stopped here at my house, to tell me how much he is enjoying the copy of Norma Corvey's autobiography I lent him Tuesday.


30 posted on 09/28/2006 11:42:11 AM PDT by ansel12 ( sin holds a sway over their lives to the point where boldness begins to be craved.)
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To: ConservativeJen

LoL. You know he was an excellant dancer prior to becoming a nutcase.


31 posted on 09/28/2006 11:45:02 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: brwnsuga

So was Theodore Roosevelt. Eugenics has a bad smell to us now, but back in the day, many people supported it.


32 posted on 09/28/2006 11:46:51 AM PDT by linda_22003
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To: ConservativeJen

I think Paul Winfield was gay. He was out, but not making a big point of it.


33 posted on 09/28/2006 11:48:30 AM PDT by osideplanner
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To: ansel12

Bizarre?

I don't think it is any more bizarre to consider Margret Sanger a Nazi than it is to say that Ted Kennedy is a Socialist.



34 posted on 09/28/2006 2:19:41 PM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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To: STARWISE; onyx; SunkenCiv; Nachum; SJackson; sonofstrangelove; Quix

*ping*


35 posted on 12/21/2009 8:29:05 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie; AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...

Thanks hennie pennie.


36 posted on 12/21/2009 7:48:44 PM PST by SunkenCiv (My Sunday Feeling is that Nothing is easy. Goes for the rest of the week too.)
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To: SunkenCiv; hennie pennie; STARWISE

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,839291,00.html

time article 1965.

Malcolm X had been a pimp, a cocaine addict and a thief. He was an unashamed demagogue. His gospel was hatred: “Your little babies will get polio!” he cried to the “white devils.” His creed was violence: “If ballots won’t work, bullets will.”

Yet even before his bullet-ripped body went to its grave, Malcolm X was being sanctified. Negro leaders called him “brilliant,” said he had recently “moderated” his views, blamed his assassination on “the white power structure” or, in the case of Martin Luther King, on a “society sick enough to express dissent with murder.” Malcolm’s death, they agreed, was a setback to the civil rights movement.

Alias John Doe. In fact, Malcolm X —in life and in death—was a disaster to the civil rights movement.

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,839291,00.html#ixzz0aO4eatKF

AMERICA NEEDS A MAU MAU

“...I have to take time to mention that because, in my opinion, not only in Mississippi and Alabama, but right here in New York City, you and I can best learn how to get real freedom by studying how Kenyatta brought it to his people in Kenya, and how Odinga helped him, and the excellent job that was done by the Mau Mau freedom fighters. In fact, that’s what we need in Mississippi. In Mississippi we need a Mau Mau. In Alabama we need a Mau Mau. In Georgia we need a Mau Mau. Right here in Harlem, in New York City, we need a Mau Mau.

http://georgehartley.blogspot.com/2009/01/we-need-mau-mau-in-mississippi-malcolm.html

(YOU DON’T KNOW THE HALF OF IT, MORE’S THE PITY!)

MALCOLM X MEETS COMMUNISTS IN CAIRO:

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=348&dat=19640807&id=3Y4EAAAAIBAJ&sjid=XTEDAAAAIBAJ&pg=7213,3901058


37 posted on 12/21/2009 8:17:10 PM PST by Fred Nerks
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To: Fred Nerks
AMERICA NEEDS A MAU MAU

How prescient. We got one.

38 posted on 12/21/2009 8:25:03 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

BLACK PANTHERS

39 posted on 12/21/2009 8:43:04 PM PST by Fred Nerks
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To: Fred Nerks
They're no better than al Queda.


40 posted on 12/21/2009 8:47:46 PM PST by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: Fred Nerks

It’s 2009 and the guy in the second photo is figuring to win a gunfight with a revolver (and dressed like THAT)? Thank God for the stupidity of the enemy.


41 posted on 12/21/2009 8:48:39 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Only payoff for being a Democrat? They get the illusion that they are intellectually superior to you)
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To: Fred Nerks; onyx; STARWISE
Say Fred, interesting information!

Have you, by chance read any of the long postings made in the summer of 2008, primarily, about the distinct possibily that Stanley Ann Dunham met Malcolm X in Seattle and that he might be the father of her son?

42 posted on 12/22/2009 6:14:24 AM PST by hennie pennie
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