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Sounds like an Effexor Murder, but could have been Zoloft
The Natural Family BLOG ^ | October 4, 2006 | Jenny Hatch

Posted on 10/05/2006 10:52:58 AM PDT by Jenny Hatch

Amish Shooting

Rest in Peace Girls!

It sounds like an Effexor Case...

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But could have been Zoloft:

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From Ann Blake Tracy:

There were MANY clues in this case! This is the list I sent to the reporters covering this case:

You have a normal, average guy who is even a good husband and father, who, out of the blue, goes on a shooting rampage.

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TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: amish; anti; depressant; murders
Amish Shooting

Rest in Peace Girls!

It sounds like an Effexor Case...

Effexor.jpg

But could have been Zoloft:

Zoloft.jpg

From Ann Blake Tracy:

There were MANY clues in this case! This is the list I sent to the reporters covering this case:

You have a normal, average guy who is even a good husband and father, who, out of the blue, goes on a shooting rampage.

You have the horrifying and vivid nightmares that become so real that you cannot tell the difference between them and reality.

You have a fellow who clearly began acting out the nightmares he was having - technically known as a REM Sleep Behavior Disorder (RBD). We now know that 86% of RBD is antidepressant-induced or perhaps more politically correct would be to say that we know that 86% of those being diagnosed with this are on antidepressants.

You have the reason for most docs to give one of the drugs due to the way Charles Roberts felt about losing his baby daughter.

You have a fellow who is armed to the hilt - the overkill is very common in these cases. For some time I have wondered if the AK-47 or other rapid fire weapons and mountains of ammo come with the prescriptions!

You have Charles Roberts stating that even his happier moments would turn to anger - most patients say that is the only feeling they can feel after a while on the drugs.

You have the rambling suicide notes that make little to no sense at all indicating he had gone completely psychotic on the drug.

You have the claims of molesting people who are completely unaware that it ever happened and have now denied it ever happened - signs of hallucinating, which higher levels of serotonin produce.

You also have another sign of high serotonin - the thoughts of pedophilia - yes that is scientifically documented. Why do you think we have so much pedophilia now to insure Bill O'Reilly's job of chasing sex abusers on Fox News? Oh my, what would Bill do without these drugs?

You also have reports coming from Sarah Glick, the little old Amish woman who runs Glick's Heath Store, that he was preparing to visit one of her daughters, who are natural practitioners (both lost family members in this tragedy) because he was sick of how he was feeling and wanted to try the natural way. Doesn't that indicate to you he had tried the medical way and it was not working?

So, has anyone asked if he was taking Vitamin P (Prozac or Paxil), or Vitamin Z (Zoloft) , etc.? I say this because so few people even seem to consider these drugs. AMAZING! But true. Of course now we have Vitamin E (Effexor) which has "homicidal ideation" listed as a side effect. Definition of homicidal ideation would be continuous ruminating thoughts of killing. Nice side effect, huh? Did wonders for Andrea Yates at the maximum dose!

Sorry if I sound a little cynical, I am just so tired of seeing SO MANY needless deaths. All I had to do was open the Lancaster, PA today and there was yet another case of a fellow on these drugs, Steven Musser, beating a man to death and having no recall - just like patients on these drugs report. When you do these things in your sleep, how are you suppose to remember?

Ann Blake Tracy, Ph.D.,

Executive Director, International Coalition For Drug Awareness

Website: _www.drugawareness.org_ (http://www.drugawareness.org/)

Author: Prozac: Panacea or Pandora? - Our Serotonin Nightmare & CD or audio tape on safe withdrawal: "Help! I Can't Get Off My Antidepressant!"

How many more students and innocent civilians need to DIE before Congress pulls these drugs??

President Bush was in Colorado yesterday and announced that he was going to have some people investigate the school shootings to see if some solution is available.

I'm so sick of my children leaving my home afraid that some drug crazed lunatic is going to burst into the school to try to kill them.

Yesterday when I picked my children up from school my ten year old was telling me what he would do if someone broke into his classroom.

I am so sad that my son has to even think about these issues when he goes to school.

President Bush, Open up the floodgates by opening up your mind to the idea that the Drug Companies have been guilty of Murder for Profit and let the facts speak for themselves...

Jenny Hatch

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Jenny Hatch after two years of Forced Psychiatric Treatment - "Cured" of Post Partum Psychosis with the court ordered use of Haldol, Lithium, Prozac, and Stelazine for 14 months.

I praise God that I did not kill anyone while I was in my drug induced haze. I pray that the truth will come out about these drugs over the next couple of weeks, and that the American Public will have the courage to face the truth before one more schoolchild is murdered...

1 posted on 10/05/2006 10:52:59 AM PDT by Jenny Hatch
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To: Jenny Hatch

Big Story with John Gibson:

Fox News -- The Big Story With John Gibson

FNC 10/04/06 17:17:42: tragedies like this one in pennsylvania and in
colorado last week seem to be inexplicable, but listen to this. more often than
not, antidepressants are involved. they found antidepressants in duane
morrison's jeep. and we know that the f.d.a. warned doctors that antidepressants can
cause both suicidal and homicidal thoughts. in 2002 douglas kennedy was the
first to expose the link between antidepressants and violence, a report that
sparked congressional hears and he's here with us now.

>> four years ago we
showed that seven out of the 12 previous school shooters were either on
anti-depress acts or withdrawing from antidepressants. and since then the trend has
continued with 16-year-old jeff wise who snapped while on prozac, killing
nine people and wounding five at his high school in red lake, minnesota. and
moments ago i spoke with sheila matthews of ablechild.org, trying to get
congress to protect schoolchildren from this kind of violence. so what do you want
congress to do here?

>> i want an investigation into the correlation between
the psychiatric drugs and the school shooters. i want toxicity screening done
on the school shooters to see if they were on any antidepressants because
clearly there's a link.

>> when you had a relative who had a bad time on
antidepressants. describe that to me. >> my brother-in-law committed suicide while
withdrawing from antidepressants, and totally out of character, a loving man,
we miss him dearly and we want to prevent this from happening.

>> you run
into lots of stories like that?

>> that's right.

>> describe some of those.

>>
well, as a founder of the able child, victims come to us all the time, their
children are committing suicide on these drugs and we're very concerned. it's
a public health issue.

>> now lots of new studies show antidepressants, not
only do they not prevent suicide, they actually cause suicide and violence.

>> that's correct.

>> why are so many people still taking them?

>> because the evidence is not being broadcast.....


2 posted on 10/05/2006 11:05:08 AM PDT by Jenny Hatch (Mommy Blogger)
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To: Jenny Hatch

Mark Taylor:


Mark Taylor's September 13, 2004 to the FDA

I am Mark Allen Taylor and I am a victim of the SSRI antidepressant era. I
took six to thirteen bullets in the heart area in the Columbine High School
shooting when Eric Harris on Luvox opened fire that now infamous day.

They almost had to amputate my leg and my arm. My heart missed by only one
millimeter. I had three surgeries. Five years later I am still recuperating.

I went through all this to realize that SSRI antidepressants are dangerous
for those who take them and for all those who associate with those who take
them.

I hope that my testimony today shows you that you need to take action
immediately before more innocent people like me, and you, do not get hurt or die
horrible deaths as a result.

As Americans we should have the right to feel safe and if you were doing
your job we would be safe. Why are we worrying about terrorists in other
countries when the pharmaceutical companies have proven to be our biggest terrorists
by releasing these drugs on an unsuspecting public?

How are we suppose to feel safe at school, at home, on the street, at church
or anywhere else if we cannot trust the FDA to do what we are paying you to
do? Where were you when I and all of my classmates got shot at Columbine?

You say that antidepressants are effective. So why did they not help Eric
Harris before he shot me?

According to Eric they "helped" him to feel homicidal and suicidal after
only six weeks on Zoloft. And then he said that dropping off Luvox cold turkey
would help him "fuel the rage" he needed to shoot everyone. But he continued
on Luvox and shot us all anyway.
So, why did these so called antidepressants not make him better?

I will tell
you why. It is because they do not work.

We should consider antidepressants to be accomplices to murder.


3 posted on 10/05/2006 11:07:01 AM PDT by Jenny Hatch (Mommy Blogger)
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To: Jenny Hatch

RECENT LIST OF SCHOOL SHOOTINGS AND LINKS TO ANTIDEPRESSANTS.



Amish Shooting Occurred In An One Room School House


Ten children were shot in this tragedy.




It Was A Non-Violent Amish Community

Too Many Co-Incidences?

You have a shooter in NC who killed his father and took the gun to school
while on Celexa, a shooter in a Toronto college being treated for depression, a
shooter in a Colorado High school on antidepressants, a boy in WI who shot
and killed his principal who was in an anger management class and being
treated for a behavioral disorder and now a massacre at an Amish school. The
rampages all occurred at schools, and the shooters had no motives.

Amish Shooting

A truck driver, Charles Roberts, an active Christian and good husband and
father who flips out, barricades himself in a schoolhouse, and shoots ten
girls, killing five of them and leaving five more hospitalized. The gunman killed
himself during a hostage stand off in the one room schoolhouse. He brought
lumber to barricade the school house. As he entered the school, he let the
males and teachers go, and when police arrived he shot the ten girls execution
style with shots to the head.


4 posted on 10/05/2006 11:09:01 AM PDT by Jenny Hatch (Mommy Blogger)
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To: Jenny Hatch
I'm open to the possibility.

I'm turned off by the rhetoric. If there's a conspiracy to make me paranoid (that's a joke -- for the humor impaired) then we need to be very careful to avoid paranoid rhetoric.

I know two people who will happily testify to Paxil's being a real help. I myself find that Lexapro is my friend. I think there are people with closed minds and magical thinking on both sides of the "natural" v. "medical" approach to this stuff.

5 posted on 10/05/2006 11:35:14 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Now we are all Massoud)
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To: Jenny Hatch

It just might be that the shooters are unbalanced people to begin with, who have been put on any number of medications, antidepressents included.


6 posted on 10/05/2006 7:03:39 PM PDT by Chickensoup (If you don't go to the holy war, the holy war will come to you.)
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To: Jenny Hatch
You have Charles Roberts stating that even his happier moments would turn to anger - most patients say that is the only feeling they can feel after a while on the drugs.
Are there statistics and documentation to back up your claim? Most would be over 50%.

You also have another sign of high serotonin - the thoughts of pedophilia - yes that is scientifically documented. Why do you think we have so much pedophilia now to insure Bill O'Reilly's job of chasing sex abusers on Fox News? Oh my, what would Bill do without these drugs?
Is there documentation showing that the pedophiles that are being arrested are using these drugs?

7 posted on 10/06/2006 9:07:12 AM PDT by PreviouslyA-Lurker (...where the spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 2 Corinthians 3:16-18)
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To: PreviouslyA-Lurker

"Is there documentation showing that the pedophiles that are being arrested are using these drugs?"


I'm not sure about documentation. I do know that it is common for people to experience sexual mania on antidepressants. Some of the research I have conducted has linked that addiction to anti-d's, but I have not researched the pedofilia link.

This is a quote from Ann Blake Tracy, who is perhaps the best expert on bad drug reactions in America in regards to these drugs.

Try contacting her through her web site. She has always responded to me personally when I contacted her in the past.

Jenny


8 posted on 10/07/2006 8:01:21 PM PDT by Jenny Hatch (Mommy Blogger)
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