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Rice's approving 'gay' remarks rankle GOP base, Secretary welcomed new AIDS ambassador's
WND ^ | 10.17.06

Posted on 10/17/2006 2:12:04 PM PDT by Coleus


Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice assists newly sworn-in Ambassador Mark Dybul as he signs appointment documents Oct. 10 at the State Department (White House photo
The Bush administration's swearing-in of an openly homosexual global AIDS ambassador and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice's approving remarks during the ceremony about his lifestyle are reflective of a Republican party "identity crisis," say some family advocates in the nation's capital. While the party wants the support of "values voters," it also is courting homosexuals and seems willing to appease the movement's radical agenda, USA Today said in a feature story.   Rice and first lady Laura Bush spoke for the administration at the Oct. 10 swearing-in at the State Department where Dybul was accompanied by his male partner, Jason Claire. Rice, during her comments, referred to the presence of Claire's mother and called her Dybul's "mother-in-law."

According to the State Department transcript, Rice said:


Thank you. Thank you very much. I am truly honored and delighted to have the opportunity to swear in Mark Dybul as our next Global AIDS Coordinator. I am pleased to do that in the presence of Mark's parents, Claire and Richard; his partner, Jason; and his mother-in-law, Marilyn. You have wonderful family to support you, Mark, and I know that's always important to us. Welcome.

The use of a term normally reserved for legally married heterosexual families rankled Peter Sprigg, vice president for policy at the Family Research Council, who called Rice's comments "profoundly offensive," according to Agape Press.


Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice swears in Ambassador Mark Dybul (White House photo)

The secretary's remarks, he said, fly in the face of the Bush administration's endorsement of a federal marriage protection amendment.  "We have to face the fact that putting a homosexual in charge of AIDS policy is a bit like putting the fox in charge of the henhouse," said Sprigg. "But even beyond that, the deferential treatment that was given not only to him but his partner and his partner's family by the Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice is very distressing."  Sprigg said, according to Agape Press, in light of the Mark Foley scandal, "it's inexplicable that a conservative administration would do such things."

Rice's comments, he added, conflict with a law protecting traditional marriage.  "So, for her to treat his partner like a spouse and treat the partner's mother as a mother-in-law, which implies a marriage between the two partners, is a violation of the spirit if not the letter of the Defense of Marriage Act," Spriggs said.  The Foley scandal has highlighted the number of homosexual staffers working for Republican lawmakers, USA Today noted, causing some family advocates to wonder if this influence has anything to do with the party's lack of action on conservative social issues.

The Family Research Council's Tony Perkins framed the question this way: "Has the social agenda of the GOP been stalled by homosexual members or staffers?"  Dybul is the nation's third openly homosexual ambassador, Agape Press noted, pointing out that in all three cases the homosexual partners held the Bible on which the oath of office was taken.  As WND reported, a new book also has raised the eyebrows of some evangelicals. White House political advisers embraced evangelical supporters publicly to get their votes while mocking them privately as "nuts" and "goofy," according to David Kuo, the former No. 2 man in President Bush's so-called "faith-based" initiatives program.


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1 posted on 10/17/2006 2:12:05 PM PDT by Coleus
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To: Coleus

Good. All the Evangelicals can vote Democrat or stay home so they can then have even more liberals on the courts, gay marriage and a whole bunch of other leftist policies thrown at them.


2 posted on 10/17/2006 2:16:49 PM PDT by misterrob (Bill Clinton, The Wizard of "Is")
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To: Coleus

3 posted on 10/17/2006 2:16:55 PM PDT by pissant
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To: misterrob

That's fine, but we'll remember this when she runs in 2008, along with her evasiveness on abortion.


4 posted on 10/17/2006 2:17:40 PM PDT by balch3
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To: Coleus

So he's gay. I care because ......?


5 posted on 10/17/2006 2:19:06 PM PDT by Terpin (Missing: One very clever and insightful tagline. Reward for safe return!)
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To: balch3

Time for a NEW party.


6 posted on 10/17/2006 2:19:23 PM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: Coleus

Its no surprise, really, and its another reason why Rice would probably be a complete disaster as a Presidential candidate.

The big money corporate elements of the GOP have already sided with the homosexual agenda in large part, so we should probably expect eventual betrayal from the party elite, just as they have done on immigration and racial preferences.

At this point, the most that the Evangelical community can really hope for is to attain an environment where the judiciary is not hostile towards traditional values, and is willing to stay out of social policy. Then at least, there is a chance to win on big issues like marriage in most states.


7 posted on 10/17/2006 2:19:56 PM PDT by Aetius
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To: Coleus
This is about the third article I've seen that talks about an outraged base over this incident, yet every article quotes only the same "Family Research Council" group.

If the whole base is outraged and fuming, these journalists should find some other offendees to quote.

8 posted on 10/17/2006 2:20:30 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Coleus

It is shameful that Republicans think gay people should not be treated with respect. Shameful.


9 posted on 10/17/2006 2:20:59 PM PDT by msnimje (Democratic Leftists are nothing like LIBERAL. They are intolerant and intellectual cowards.)
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To: Coleus

What's WorldNetDaily pushing this divisive stuff too? It's as bad as the NY Times/Wash Post/ABC/NBS/SeeBS.


10 posted on 10/17/2006 2:21:23 PM PDT by rhombus
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To: rhombus
Because World Nut Daily has become as anti-Bush as the New York Slimes.
11 posted on 10/17/2006 2:22:04 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Free Republic is Currently Suffering a Pandemic of “Bush Derangement Syndrome.”)
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To: Coleus

There's already a thread that's over 400 posts; how many do we need to have on this "topic"?


12 posted on 10/17/2006 2:22:20 PM PDT by linda_22003
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To: Coleus

Same gender sex is sin. Having said that, homosexuals live, move and breathe in this world. I'm not going to say none should ever be given jobs in the government.


13 posted on 10/17/2006 2:22:43 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: balch3

She's not running in 2008. Have you not been listening to her? She's not running. She doesn't want to be President.

She's doing what Bush wants her to do. That's her job. Bush appointed this guy, not Condi. She was there at the swearing-in ceremony. So was Laura Bush.

Don't you get it? President Bush is in charge, not Condi. He appointed this gay man. He approves this message.

For pete's sake, President Bush doesn't care if this guy's gay. He wants someone with experience in AIDS, and this guy has it. He's a physician, and has been working in this field for a long time. He's perfectly well-qualified.

President Bush doesn't care that he's gay. There are other gays working in this administration. You didn't know that? Did you think that President Bush hates gays just because they're gay? He said, several times, that sexual orientation wasn't a factor that would eliminate someone for consideration for a post.

Give it a break. You don't like gays? That's your privilege. If you vote based on whether someone will hire a gay man, then you are voting the wrong way. It doesn't matter.


14 posted on 10/17/2006 2:23:07 PM PDT by MineralMan (Non-evangelical Atheist)
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To: msnimje
It is shameful that Republicans think gay people should not be treated with respect.

Careful with that broad brush.

15 posted on 10/17/2006 2:23:53 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: linda_22003
There's already a thread that's over 400 posts; how many do we need to have on this "topic"?

As many as it takes to split the party and allow the Dems to take over would be my guess. ;-)

16 posted on 10/17/2006 2:23:57 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: pollyannaish

Well, carry on then, if that's the goal....


17 posted on 10/17/2006 2:25:04 PM PDT by linda_22003
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To: Terpin

Yeah, exactly my reaction: One can agree that AIDS is a serious disease meriting serious international attention/ concern, without descending into "group-rights" politics. Perhaps this guy was the best qualified candidate INDEPENDENT of his orientation, but that's not the way this makes it sound. More like, HE'S OPENLY GAY and by the way he's also (... or "therefore"?) qualified?

Such conduct fails to treat either medical science or, frankly, homosexuals with much respect. JMO.


18 posted on 10/17/2006 2:25:05 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: MEGoody
Careful with that broad brush.

Makes
no
sense.
19 posted on 10/17/2006 2:25:57 PM PDT by msnimje (Democratic Leftists are nothing like LIBERAL. They are intolerant and intellectual cowards.)
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To: rovenstinez

Bye.


20 posted on 10/17/2006 2:26:12 PM PDT by Howlin (Why Won't Nancy Pelosi Let Louis Freeh Investigate the Page Scandal?)
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To: Coleus

Is Rice "outing" somebody?


21 posted on 10/17/2006 2:26:23 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: linda_22003

I figure it gives them all a false sense of security. I can live with that. : D.


22 posted on 10/17/2006 2:26:27 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: Coleus

This story, although from a different source, has already inspired a thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1720920/posts


23 posted on 10/17/2006 2:26:41 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: pogo101

"Perhaps this guy was the best qualified candidate INDEPENDENT of his orientation, but that's not the way this makes it sound. "

Hey, it's the Whirled Nutz Daily. What do you expect?


24 posted on 10/17/2006 2:27:03 PM PDT by MineralMan (Non-evangelical Atheist)
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To: pollyannaish

Bingo!!!!!


25 posted on 10/17/2006 2:27:16 PM PDT by Howlin (Why Won't Nancy Pelosi Let Louis Freeh Investigate the Page Scandal?)
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To: Howlin

Huh. Open evidence to support the earlier theory. What a surprise.


26 posted on 10/17/2006 2:28:18 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: linda_22003

Heck, there was somebody on the other thread who said that Bush appointed this guy so that they COULD spread AIDS around the world.


27 posted on 10/17/2006 2:28:25 PM PDT by Howlin (Why Won't Nancy Pelosi Let Louis Freeh Investigate the Page Scandal?)
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To: msnimje
It is shameful that Republicans think gay people should not be treated with respect. Shameful.

Treating someone with respect does not mean having to approve of immoral behavior or recognize as "marriage" something that has never been thought of as "marriage" before the current gay activist ideology came on the scene.

28 posted on 10/17/2006 2:28:49 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: msnimje

Who's saying they shouldn't be treated with respect? But talking about "mother in laws" is more than respect, it's kowtowing.

Suppose you knew someone with a bestiality fetish. Naturally such a person deserves the respect that every human being is due. But his mental illness/dysfunction is not respectable. The same thing goes for any sexual deviant. Sounds like Rice and Mrs Bush are going out of their way to be supportive of the "gay" agenda, and this does not go over well with actual conservatives.


29 posted on 10/17/2006 2:29:01 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Howlin

Don't you get bruises sometimes, from beating your forehead against the desk when you read some of this stuff? :)


30 posted on 10/17/2006 2:29:16 PM PDT by linda_22003
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There's a difference between respecting everyone and kowtowing to support the "gay" agenda.

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31 posted on 10/17/2006 2:30:17 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Terpin

It's not about him - it's about Rice. A lot of people aren't real crazy about the fact the she referred to the mother of Dybuls gay partner as his "mother-in-law."


32 posted on 10/17/2006 2:30:55 PM PDT by Stone Mountain
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To: Coleus

Well, you have to admit it is appropriate that a queer is appointed to head the venereal disease commission since said set of diseases is most prevalent in this subpopulation of deviants.

Not engaging a disgusting sexual deviant has little to do with religion. If people think that only evangelicals are disgusted by homosexual behavior they are in denial about reality or unaware of what the hell is going on.


33 posted on 10/17/2006 2:31:29 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot
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To: Coleus

34 posted on 10/17/2006 2:32:37 PM PDT by fishtank
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To: misterrob
The Evangelicals, of all people, need to get out and vote.

What do they believe they will gain by staying home and allowing a democratic defeat in November?

Higher taxes will be the least of our worries if they take control of one or both houses. The dems stand for everything the Evangelicals do not. Someone needs to explain that fact if they don't understand it already.

35 posted on 10/17/2006 2:33:33 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: rovenstinez

2012


36 posted on 10/17/2006 2:33:54 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: little jeremiah

"Sounds like Rice and Mrs Bush are going out of their way to be supportive of the "gay" agenda, and this does not go over well with actual conservatives.
"

Oh, bovine feces! This is just one more case of the perpetually-offended finding just one more reason to be ticked off at President Bush and his administration.

The guy's qualified for the job. Who cares if Condi called the guy's partner's mother a mother-in-law. Talk about blowing crap out of proportion...

So, if you're so angry at President Bush, go vote for the Constitution Party candidates. You, too, can help the Democrats take over. Won't that be nice, little jeremiah.

Go find some real issue to talk about. This one doesn't qualify. It's a non-starter.


37 posted on 10/17/2006 2:35:06 PM PDT by MineralMan (Non-evangelical Atheist)
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To: misterrob
Chill. Just because we get angry when we are taken for granted does not mean we are going to vote Dem or stay home.

Are we allowed to stand up for ourselves, or is that frowned upon?

38 posted on 10/17/2006 2:35:15 PM PDT by Clump
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To: linda_22003

I usually just consider the source; it's always the same ones, always trying to convince the rest of us how much better/smarter/devoted they are then we are.

But when you see something like that posted on a forum like this one, true ignorant on display, it is kind of disheartening.


39 posted on 10/17/2006 2:35:23 PM PDT by Howlin (Why Won't Nancy Pelosi Let Louis Freeh Investigate the Page Scandal?)
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To: Neoliberalnot
If people think that only evangelicals are disgusted by homosexual behavior

Oh, Geez. That's hardly the issue. There's something (whether bigotry or something less) wrong with anyone obsessed with that aspect. Heck, the thought of most heterosexuals "doing it" is pretty disgusting, if that's your focus.

40 posted on 10/17/2006 2:35:35 PM PDT by Stultis
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To: Stultis

Especially everyone's parents. :)


41 posted on 10/17/2006 2:38:58 PM PDT by linda_22003
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To: linda_22003; Stultis
LOL. Have you seen that ad for some hotel, where the guy accidentally walks in on his mother in the shower?


As he's leaving the room with a complete poker face he says....


"Sorry mom."









"and Dad."

Everytime I see it my whole family just rolls laughing. It's hysterical. Therapy for everyone!
42 posted on 10/17/2006 2:43:13 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: misterrob
Good. All the Evangelicals can vote Democrat or stay home so they can then have even more liberals on the courts, gay marriage and a whole bunch of other leftist policies thrown at them.

What is more leftist than this? Your mentality has got us into this mess. Vote the lesser of two evils. The Bible is quite clear on this...

Romans 3:8 (King James Version)

And not rather, (as we be slanderously reported, and as some affirm that we say,) Let us do evil, that good may come? whose damnation is just.

Romans 6:1-2 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? 2God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

But you underestimate your Christian Moral Conservative friends.. they will not be voting Democrat, but third party, probable Constitutional.


43 posted on 10/17/2006 2:43:25 PM PDT by LowOiL ("I am neither . I am a Christocrat" - Benjamin Rush)
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To: Coleus

Why is this news? Crazy dictators with nukes, overseas war, terrorists blowing crap up and the thing that makes a head lines is Rice saying something inconsequential? Sounds like the media is trying to find another thing to divide repubs over.


44 posted on 10/17/2006 2:43:34 PM PDT by stacytec (Nihilism, its whats for dinner)
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To: Coleus

Any truth to the rumors that Rice isn't playing for the right team?


45 posted on 10/17/2006 2:43:49 PM PDT by SmoothTalker
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To: Terpin

If he's gay, I don't care as long as he is not in my face with his life style.


46 posted on 10/17/2006 2:44:57 PM PDT by chiefqc
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To: LowOiL

Voting the lesser of two evils is what got us this mess... see Biblical reference in my post above showing NOT to vote the lesser of two evils...


47 posted on 10/17/2006 2:48:06 PM PDT by LowOiL ("I am neither . I am a Christocrat" - Benjamin Rush)
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To: Howlin

There are some people who think about what gay guys do in the bedroom more often than actual gay guys think about what they do in the bedroom.


48 posted on 10/17/2006 2:49:45 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: chiefqc
If he's gay, I don't care as long as he is not in my face with his life style.

Said the Foley voters who also didn't care that republicans put a open gay person in charge of the page program who happened to turn a blind eye to Foley's romps around the place.

49 posted on 10/17/2006 2:51:25 PM PDT by LowOiL ("I am neither . I am a Christocrat" - Benjamin Rush)
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To: LowOiL

love the sinner, hate the sin. That sounds familiar to me.


50 posted on 10/17/2006 2:57:56 PM PDT by catbertz
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