Posted on 11/06/2006 3:58:30 AM PST by exposing_the_left
During the 2004 presidential election, bloggers at the Democratic Underground actually discussed an "Islamic-Communistic" overthrow of the US Government if Kerry lost the election!
All of the following is from the website of the Democratic Underground. (a link to original source is included at the end)
This thread continued for THREE entire weeks before the moderator bogusly stepped in and put an end to it. As of Nov 6, 2006, the thread is still up on the Democratic Underground website. --LC (exposing_the_left)
Forward begins --
Post from: Lori Price CLG (1000+ posts) Sun Feb-22-04 11:17 PM Response to Reply #10 16. Yes, spread the word, even if you *didn't* read it, that there *will* be riots! Yes! Riots, and a whole lot more!..."
Democratic Underground bloggers respond...
"if it is decided to fight, be prepared to fight, bring a backpack, entrenching tool, tent, and other equipment of an Infantrymen. You will need it for Bush and his supporters decides it is better to fight than to accept the will of the people, the fight to overthrow them will be a long fight."
"...it takes three things to overthrow a tyrant;...
1. Popular support, you must have the majority of the people on your side (i.e. Democracy, even the Communists and Islamics both try to show they have the Support of the Majority of the People),
2. Organization to perform the overthrow (This is why Madison wrote the First like he did, these are HOW you organize an opposition. Without the First it is hard to organize an opposition and any resistence organized in absence of the rights stated in the First tend to be as tyrannical as what you are opposing)
3. Weapons to push the issue if the leadership that is being overthrown tries to use force to stay in power. You have to be willing to answer force with force. Weapons do not overthrow a tyrant, weapons just protect the people who are overthrowing a tyrant."
"Now, you may say "Hay, you are talking about Islamic and/or Communists groups not 'Western Liberal resistence groups'". And you would be correct. As I said in the beginning the first step in a guerilla war against a tyrant is to first organize. The Islamic and Communists Groups were the best at organizing people. "Western Liberal Resistence Groups" were less effective in organizing resistence groups (And less liked by the CIA and KGB who tended to fund these groups, remember any war is expensive, money talks).
Furthermore since most Islamic and Communist groups tend to be the first groups outlawed they tend to go underground first. Once underground they start to organize and as other groups are outlawed those groups tend to join the opposition which tends to be either Islamic or Communistic. Once outlawed these groups also tend to be controlled by the most fanatic opponents of the Tyrants and these tend to be either Islamic or Communistic. Thus to oppose the Tyrants you have to support a side with enough discipline to get the job done and that tend to be Communist or Islamic."
"...Any weapons we resort to must be "real" weapons not pistols. i.e. Rifles and shotguns. Due to concerns of re-supply (you have to plan for a long battle) such weapons should be limited to very small number of different rounds. Generally restrict yourself to the following rounds:
5.56x 45 (.223 Remington) 7.62x 63 (30-06) 7.62x 51 (.308 Winchester or 7.62 NATO) 7.62 x 39 (7.62mm Russian 7.62 AK Round) 12 Gauge Shotgun. 30-30 Winchester."
"You have more weapons in the above calibers than any other calibers thus should be your first choice in weapons. Saying this I must point out I like the 7x57 and 7.92x57 Mauser rounds and the M1898 Mauser Bolt action Rifle, but the 7.92 (sometime called 8mm Mauser) but these rounds are less common than the above and thus harder to obtain when re-supply is needed (and re-supply will be needed if the struggle lasts for any length of time).
Re-supply of Ammunition has always been the bane of any military operations. Without ammunition you can not fight. To get you ammunition, it is easier if we can keep the number of different rounds to a minimum (i.e. 5.56x45 and 7.62x51). I list the 30-06 and 30-30 winchester rounds for these are two VERY popular rounds and ammunition for both are easy to obtain (the same with the 12 Gauge shotgun). I list the 7.62 AK round do to the huge number of SKSs and AKs imported since the fall of the Soviet Union. I list it for while there are probably more 30-30s and 30-06 rifles out they than 7.62 Aks and SKSs, the Aks and SKSs may very while outnumber the rifles in 5.56x45 and 7.62 NATO.
Also, if it is decided to fight, be prepared to fight, bring a backpack, entrenching tool, tent, and other equipment of an Infantrymen. You will need it for Bush and his supporters decides it is better to fight than to accept the will of the people, the fight to overthrow them will be a long fight."
-- end of excerpts...but many other just as crazy like-minded thoughts found at the following link. This thread continued for THREE entire weeks before the moderator bogusly stepped in and put an end to it. As of Nov 6, 2006, the thread is still up on the Democratic Underground website.
Democratic Underground Discussion Board Topic: "Arming the Left: Is the time now?" : http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=118x41313
(use this link if long one above breaks up) Democratic Underground discussion board: http://tinyurl.com/6whgg
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Talk is cheap. Let's see them take action that will end them all up in Prison.
Liberals with guns...pfffft.
They are all completely delusional.
"Yeah, man...we gotta riot! We can't let them get away with it! Let's fight! FIGHT! Hey man, are you gonna bogart that joint or what? Let's go eat, I'm hungry..."
Deranged individuals!
Don't be afraid of liberals, but never let them be in charge of anything.
LOL! Too funny! Those folks are morons. I had better strategies, when I was nine years old, for capturing my neighbor's treehouse.
This reminds me of the students at Berkeley demonstrating agatinst the election of Ronald Reagan as President in 1980. I'm sure their fellow pencil-necked, muscle-less, obsecnity-spewing, "big mouth/bully in a large group" twits will be just as effective two decades years later.
Somehow I can't picture all the fat feminazi's and limpwristed pansey boys that frequent DU much of a threat to the US military. In fact I wonder if any of them actually own or has ever fired a gun...
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ROFLMAO! You are so right! Whenever I hear lefties talking about overthrowing the government, I start to giggle. Revolution takes some initiative - you actually have to put the cheetos down and leave your mom's basement.
Come on! The poster explaining the various calibers and their availability has GOT to be a FReeper posing as a DUmmie!!!!
These people couldn't muster an overthrow of Starbucks. Besides, it's not just the military they'd face, but us Red State voters who would be happy to get some!
How many want to bet that the radical leading the thread was an FBI agent trying to meet his quota of people to put under surveillance?
People in mental institutions usually are delusional. It's all they have! Poor things, we must pity them.
This dude obviously didn't do well in English class.
And after their victory, the commies and islamics would have killed each other.
But, but, but, but, the DUmmies support an even bigger tyrant than Bush.
These "progressives" tend to be people who cannot think more than one step ahead (that is why they still believe in a planned economy where some dictator orders there to be prosperity). If they get their "revolution," do they think the communists or Islamists will share power with them? Do they think they will get their gay marriages or legalized meth that way? They might all agree on burning down the churches, and then what? Are feminists going to rise up and help the Islamists enslave women? It is one thing for a trendy American feminist to denounce the "Zionists" and declare solidarity with AlQaida. It is another thing when the Islamists are breaking down one's door, holding a burka on one hand and a noose on the other. Are black churchgoers going to help the communists burn down their churches because some leftist says it is for a "progressive" cause? Isn't it likely that those boring rubes in flyover country might be more handy with a rifle than some newly-minted "revolutionary" who got all his knowledge about guns from a leftist blog? Do they think this "popular revolution" would have any following beyond Berkely and San Francisco?
You call this pacifism?
The will of the people was Bush by 4,000,000 votes.
Oh. They mean the will of the kook left wing bloggers. I see. Screw democracy if doesn't give them what they dictate, right?
Besides, who's going to pay for their "war" equipment? There's no social program designed to support homos, welfare slugs, and a take over of America. Where they planning on stealing the stuff? Were they going to make it out of old grocery bags and sticks?
1. Popular support,
Oh well. There goes that idea. It was fun while it lasted, aye?
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