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McCain and Giuliani Dream Team Ticket?
Wire Services ^ | November 14, 2006 | daveinboca

Posted on 11/14/2006 9:12:44 AM PST by daveinboca

[url=http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnw/20061114/pl_usnw/dnc_statement_on_giuliani_s_potential_presidential_bid331_xml]Rudy Giuliani[/url] draws large poll numbers across the country and across the board. Although their combined RINO quotient is high and could spawn a third-party revolt if they got nominated, John McCain and Giuliani would be a dream team. That is, if one of these two egomaniacs could be persuaded to take the VP slot on the 2008 Republican ticket!

Despite his frankly left-wing takes on many social issues, I like his support of school vouchers as this product of parochial schools does the right thing to enable kids to escape dead-end public education, over-funded and under-delivering because of huge administrative costs and regressive union policies.

And this veteran of 9/11 will not flake out like the Democrats consistently do concerning national security. The only problem I have with Rudy is that Chris Mathews is so high on him! Probably that parochial school old-boy network!


TOPICS: Government; History; Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: catholicrino; mccain; nightmare; vomit

1 posted on 11/14/2006 9:12:48 AM PST by daveinboca
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To: daveinboca

Maybe for Holloween.


2 posted on 11/14/2006 9:13:15 AM PST by Always Right
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To: daveinboca

Shoot me now.


3 posted on 11/14/2006 9:13:29 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: daveinboca

I can believe it, but the question is...who will be on the Republican ticket?


4 posted on 11/14/2006 9:14:13 AM PST by SampleMan (Do not dispute the peacefulness of Islam, so as not to send Muslims into violent outrage.)
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To: daveinboca

For the Democrats maybe this is the dream ticket


5 posted on 11/14/2006 9:14:28 AM PST by MNJohnnie ( People who see the glass half full win, those who see it half empty lose)
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To: MNJohnnie
For the Democrats maybe this is the dream ticket.

What you said.

6 posted on 11/14/2006 9:16:17 AM PST by madison10 (Live your life in such a way that the preacher won't have to lie at your funeral.)
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To: daveinboca

If Mitt Romney doesn't run, kiss a Republican Presidency buh-bye...and maybe even if he does...


7 posted on 11/14/2006 9:16:25 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: daveinboca; All

I much perfer the Rudy [he will draw the moderate to liberal wing in] and the Mr. Newt [he speaks to the hard core consertive wing] ticket. Yes, I do understand that both have problems in their past, but who does not!


8 posted on 11/14/2006 9:17:00 AM PST by TMSuchman (American by birth, Rebel by choice, Marine by act of GOD!)
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To: daveinboca

More like nightmare, imo


9 posted on 11/14/2006 9:17:34 AM PST by Lucky9teen (Where are we going? And why are we in this handbasket?)
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To: daveinboca

Muck FcCain! He's the kind of nutjob that would let the whole country taken over. Still better than any elected Dimocrat, he is the very last Republican I would ever vote for.


10 posted on 11/14/2006 9:23:17 AM PST by Niteranger68 (Big winners of election 2006: Democrats, terrorists, MSM, Hollywood, anti-war protestors, etc.)
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To: daveinboca

Both men are such terrific egotists that neither would accept the second slot.

So there goes your dream of RINO Heaven.


11 posted on 11/14/2006 9:23:22 AM PST by Palladin ("Open a new window; open a new door; travel a new highway.")
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To: daveinboca

McPain is a RINO and the new yorkers say Rudy is the same so why not elect demorats and get it over with?

Your crazy if you elect either one of these two....


12 posted on 11/14/2006 9:45:05 AM PST by HarleyLady27 (My ? to libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?" "Grow your own DOPE: Plant a LIB!")
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To: daveinboca

The ticket from hell! Well, Giuliani I could stomach - but no way for McCain.


13 posted on 11/14/2006 12:12:13 PM PST by billybudd
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To: daveinboca

Nightmare is more like it.


14 posted on 11/14/2006 12:12:34 PM PST by rintense (Liberals stand for nothing and are against everything- unless it benefits them.)
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To: daveinboca

Anyone want to chip in and charter a fishing trip? The Gulfstream is beautiful in November!


15 posted on 11/14/2006 12:28:56 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (MAY I DIE ON MY FEET IN MY SWAMP, BUAIDH NO BAS)
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To: HarleyLady27
Rudy could spell 2nd Amendment trouble, tho no more than a Democrat would. And he has a history of being soft on illegal immigration. Rudy was in C-Span recently and was asked about immigration. His response was reasonable, in that he said that where he was sitting as mayor there was zero possibility of getting the feds to actually control the border - and the only thing he could do was try to manage the situation as it existed. He sounded entirely sensible - but then, tho I understand that others are impacted by illegal immigration, it simply has not affected me as a problem personally. Your mileage may vary.

OTOH McCain is pure poison on the First Amendment, as bad as any Democrat. Freepers may or may not be walking arsenals - but FreeRepublic is all about exercising of First Amendment rights which McCain directly threatens. Whatever people are smoking that makes them think about political "speech" in a way that makes "campaign finance reform" seem honorable should definitely be illegal.

Rudy would be better than just about any Democrat you can name, and - leaving aside the personal issues which perhaps we should not leave out of the mix - may be the most electable Republican whose name is presently being bruited for '08. I like FR far too much to favor McCain for the nomination. And I question whether I'd be able to vote for him in the general if by some miracle the Democrats nominate someone I could respect as much as Guliani.

When the "Keating Five" scandal broke, McCain was desperate, but he found a way out. His escape was to put his gonads have been in the MSM's lockbox, and ever since then McCain has been a creature of "the MSM." If he ever got the Republican nomination he would face a Democrat who (since no liberal has any other consideration than getting good PR) was even more a creature of the MSM. The moment he got the nomination, therefore, McCain would lose his base of support in the MSM or else run to the left to try to compete for the support of the MSM.

What kind of a consevative would deliberately sign on for that??


16 posted on 11/14/2006 1:43:04 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

He spoke here in PA. this past weekend and is a great speaker, he could use alot of milage on that gift....the thing I'm afraid of with Rudy is the second admendment...I am a gun owner, shooter...and I feel that is my right not a gift to bear arms....and I don't think I would take kindly to anyone trying to different on that subject, along with a few million other gun owners, shooters.

McPain, I will not in any way shape or form vote for...just won't do it, he is a pure bred RINO and I don't care if he was a POW, there have been many stories about that subject, but when he got with the gang of 13 that did it for me...I don't understand why the people in his state keep electing him...course I don't know why the people of Mass. keep electing drunk kennedy either...lol...

I would have to brush up of the Keeting mess, to know what it was all about...along about that time, I had babies and diapers and working and trying to keep a home with me and my babies...single mother...so I would have to read up on it...

You bring out some good points, I just won't vote for McPain...


17 posted on 11/14/2006 1:56:53 PM PST by HarleyLady27 (My ? to libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?" "Grow your own DOPE: Plant a LIB!")
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To: SampleMan

LOL Hee hee.


18 posted on 11/14/2006 3:49:49 PM PST by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: HarleyLady27
the gang of 13
OUCH!

That too . . .


19 posted on 11/14/2006 5:44:09 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: HarleyLady27
I would have to brush up of the Keeting mess, to know what it was all about...along about that time, I had babies and diapers and working and trying to keep a home
Don't worry about it; if (Heaven forefend) McCain gets the Republican nomination, the MSM will tell you more about it than you ever cared to know. And less.

In reality, McCain was the senator who looked fifth-worst when Keating was caught buying influence with campaign contributions. The other four were Democrats, and the sixth-worst senator in that regard was also a Democrat. Hence, "Keating Five" - condemning enough senators to be able to include a Republican and make the scandal "bipartisan." And not a (Democratic) senator more.


20 posted on 11/14/2006 5:52:18 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: daveinboca

McCaptain still thinks he is General Patton.


21 posted on 11/14/2006 10:39:02 PM PST by Feldkurat_Katz (What no women’s magazine ever offers to improve is women’s minds - Taki)
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To: daveinboca
The Real McCain

SEN. JOHN McCAIN: THE ULTIMATE "RHINESTONE HERO"

SEN. JOHN McCAIN: THE ULTIMATE "RHINESTONE HERO" Part II

John McCain Gets Soros Cash

John McCain Is No Hero

U.S. Sen. John McCain is no War Hero

John McCain: The Manchurian Candidate

JOHN MCCAIN, WARTS AND ALL

John McCain, you treasonous bastard, I challenge you or any of your traitorous cohorts...

McCain Is Booed by Labor Activists

McCain Rides to Kerry's Rescue: "John Kerry is Not Weak on Defense" (Today Show alert)

John McCain SCREAMS AT 9/11 FSA MEMBERS FOR OPPOSING HIS BILL TO GIVE AMNESTY FOR ILLEGALS

John McCain's Skeleton Closet

A number of articles on McCain. (some the same as above)

22 posted on 11/15/2006 12:17:39 AM PST by TigersEye (Ego chatters endlessly on. Mind speaks in great silence.)
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To: daveinboca
Are you very new to politics?

Do you really know much about McLame and Rudy?

Just a wee helpful hint...................neither man would EVER take the V.P. spot for the other and McQueeg has about as much chance of winning the '08 GOP presidential primary, as Hillary Clinton has.

23 posted on 11/15/2006 12:22:20 AM PST by nopardons
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To: HarleyLady27

Rudy is NOT a RINO and only ONE supposed New Yorker, a NEWBIE, has called him that on FR.


24 posted on 11/15/2006 12:24:17 AM PST by nopardons
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To: HarleyLady27

14...the gang of 14!


25 posted on 11/15/2006 12:26:31 AM PST by nopardons
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To: TigersEye

bttt


26 posted on 11/15/2006 12:27:34 AM PST by nopardons
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To: napscoordinator
Please read every single link on the post I have now pinged you to. Then, and ONLY then, we'll talk. :-)
27 posted on 11/15/2006 12:33:39 AM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

To answer your supercilious question: I've been national staff in three presidential campaigns and many smaller ones. Am very acquainted with both McCain and Rudy. Also worked for three TV networks. And that is the reason McCain and Giuliani might be the only possibility, since working for TV makes one believe that a conservative no longer has a chance, unless he is another Reagan running against a total lame-o like Carter. Reagan had had the previous media exposure to surmount the MSM bias toward Carter. This will not happen to Mitt Romney, a person who otherwise I think much better than the "dream ticket" members.

Also, reading skills: The third sentence in the first paragraph does address the VP problem.


28 posted on 11/16/2006 10:36:10 AM PST by daveinboca (Eurabia)
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To: daveinboca
A question can't be "supercilious". It can have a supercilious TONE, the person asking the question can act in a supercilious manner, but since neither the tone of my query, nor myself had said tone or manner, you are way off base.

Your CV may, in your own mind, make you feel sure that your opinions are correct, but they aren't.

And FWIW there are many people here on FR who have been extremely active in politics and have far better credentials, vis-a-vis "being in T.V."; not to mention much more. I suggest that you deflate that puffed up chest of yours, stop patting yourself on the back, and refrain from the hauteur that is evidenced in your reply to me.

And BTW, my reading comprehension skills are very good. :-)

29 posted on 11/16/2006 1:32:34 PM PST by nopardons
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To: daveinboca

Dream?

Or nightmare.


30 posted on 11/16/2006 1:33:16 PM PST by NeoCaveman (Mike Pence for House Minority Leader and John Shadegg for Whip)
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To: TMSuchman

Rudy/Newt - I'll work up a slogan.

2 Men,
4 Divorces
6 Wives,
8n't it Great.


31 posted on 11/16/2006 1:34:49 PM PST by NeoCaveman (Mike Pence for House Minority Leader and John Shadegg for Whip)
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To: nopardons
14...the gang of 14!

As of January it's the gang of 12.

32 posted on 11/16/2006 1:36:46 PM PST by NeoCaveman (Mike Pence for House Minority Leader and John Shadegg for Whip)
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To: NeoCaveman
Nether of which is the 13, that was heretofore posted.
33 posted on 11/16/2006 2:40:11 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

Oh dear. Last I checked, a question can be supercilious. You sound a bit apodictic and a bit off base yourself. And how would you know how wide my credentials are in TV? And my other unmentioned credentials, how would you know about those? And your reading comprehension sure missed para 1 in my original post. A more subtle reading of my post than you seem capable of would discern that I'm not actually supporting the ticket, just suggesting it would win. Evidently that's not in your skill-set.

Pedantic and apodictic, you certainly have those bases covered. Plus what the psychologists like to call "projecting."


34 posted on 11/17/2006 12:15:09 PM PST by daveinboca (Eurabia)
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To: daveinboca
A project complex plus delusions of grandeur overlaid with masochistic tendencies? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....poor widdle n00b, this does not bode well for you at all. And talk about a supercilious style...WOW, you take the cake!

Golly gee, big old "I WAS IN T.V. AND WORKED IN POLITICS ON THE NATIONAL LEVEL", go try to impress someone else.

FYI....Mort Kondracki and Fred Barnes and Bill Krystol are all McCainiacs and really, really,REALLY "believe" that McLame is going to win the GOP presidential '08 primary too. That doesn't mean that he has a snowball's chance in Hell of doing so.

35 posted on 11/17/2006 6:59:34 PM PST by nopardons
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