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President Sonny Perdue?
Control Congress ^ | 11.18.06

Posted on 11/18/2006 9:02:13 AM PST by eeevil conservative

Clinton, Romney, McCain, Giuliani, Obama, Frist, Gingrich, Gore, Kerry, Rice, Edwards, Pataki, Biden… Like it or not, the 2008 presidential race is officially underway. What’s missing is a clear front-runner for the Republican nomination.

Georgia governor Sonny Perdue is, perhaps, the GOP’s best hope of maintaining control of the White House.

Republicans are Mad about Spending and Immigration

Perdue balanced the budget in Georgia, which insulates him from the criticisms that face any candidate that comes from our irresponsible, deficit-swelling congress.

Perdue passed the toughest immigration legislation in the country, while Washington did nothing.

Independents are Mad about the Iraq and Trade

Since Perdue wasn’t in Washington during the vote to authorize the Iraq war, he can approach it with an open mind and no political baggage.

Regarding trade reform, Perdue can reach out to natural allies like Gingrey, Norwood, Deal, and Westmorland, all of whom have been outspoken about cracking down on Chinese trade abuses (especially regarding child and slave labor).

Perdue was the GOP’s Only Bright Light in the Mid-Term Election

With Perdue at the top of the ticket, Georgia Republicans picked up both the Lt. Governor and Sectary of State offices and expanded the Republican majority in the statehouse. Republicans in the rest of the country took a “thumpin........”

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1 posted on 11/18/2006 9:02:14 AM PST by eeevil conservative
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To: casino66; Txsleuth; MNJohnnie; HonestConservative; Darth Republican; alice_in_bubbaland; ...
This is what we will be talking about today on Control Congress....

We will also be talking about this article (topic)....

Why Conservatives Are So Angry

If we have time- we will also be talking about the RACE CARD! Hope you all can tune in....and HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND!

2 posted on 11/18/2006 9:05:06 AM PST by eeevil conservative (Religious Zealot from the Right Wing Church of Hate...............)
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To: eeevil conservative

Sonny's a nice guy, and I like him, but he's not ready for prime time.


3 posted on 11/18/2006 9:10:09 AM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: eeevil conservative; stainlessbanner; stand watie; shuckmaster

Well he lied to the citizens of his state so we know he's a good politician at least. What a choice. A former mayor of New York, a governor of Massachusetts, or Perdue. Two yankees and a scalawag. And that's what the Republicans apparently have to offer....


4 posted on 11/18/2006 9:13:02 AM PST by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: AnAmericanMother

I live here in GA...and to be honest- I LOVE Sonny....but I also have my eye on Mitt Romney....

But the one I like most- but is not mentioned is Steve King from Iowa......

I still need to do more research before I could really throw my support behind anyone...but...I just hate the lack of SHINING Conservative Leaders for '08......ugh!


5 posted on 11/18/2006 9:13:49 AM PST by eeevil conservative (Religious Zealot from the Right Wing Church of Hate...............)
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To: billbears

LOL!!

I sure hope you call into the show and share that!!!!

Sad list of hopefuls, eh?


6 posted on 11/18/2006 9:15:04 AM PST by eeevil conservative (Religious Zealot from the Right Wing Church of Hate...............)
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well clock is ticking!

I need to RUN to the studio...(okay I will drive...)

;-)


7 posted on 11/18/2006 9:16:26 AM PST by eeevil conservative (Religious Zealot from the Right Wing Church of Hate...............)
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To: eeevil conservative

Looking forward to today's pings, Eeev!


8 posted on 11/18/2006 9:32:58 AM PST by RasterMaster (Winning Islamic hearts and minds.........one bullet at a time!)
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To: billbears; All
WELL said!

i wouldn't vote for LYING SONNY if he ran for dogcatcher.

he's the best governor that can be BOUGHT! (he even sells out CHEAP!)

free dixie,sw

9 posted on 11/18/2006 10:22:23 AM PST by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: eeevil conservative
I just hate the lack of SHINING Conservative Leaders for '08......ugh!

The cupboard is bare... as it stands now and things look bleak. The loss of conservative voices like Allen, Santorum, Weldon and Hayworth will really hurt our influence over 2008.

10 posted on 11/18/2006 10:37:18 AM PST by johnny7 ("We took a hell of a beating." -'Vinegar Joe' Stilwell)
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To: billbears; stand watie
Apparently the people of Georgia don't care too much for the rebel flag as Sonny's electoral success shows. Good for Sonny, good for the people of Georgia as they sent this divisive and pointless controversy gone with the wind. A couple of other southern states would do well to follow the path of Perdue and Georgia. After all it's 2006, not 1861.
11 posted on 11/18/2006 10:59:32 AM PST by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
as usual, you EXCUSE your "precious sonny" for BOTH lying AND "being for sale" to the highest bidder. ("sonny the LIAR" is the PROPERTY of the state Chamber of Commerce, bought & paid for.)

"roo", i'm eternally fascinated by your arrogant IGNORANCE, willingness to accept OPEN DIShonesty in politicians & your obvious lack of brains.

otoh, with the exception of N-S, you're the ONLY one of the "DAMNyankee coven of lunatics, fools, nitwits & idiots" who has ANY brains.

free dixie,sw

12 posted on 11/18/2006 11:11:47 AM PST by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: eeevil conservative
Personally, I am of the mind that being angry is not going to accomplish anything.

I do have a question, though. Is Governor Perdue's real name Sonny, or is that a nickname?

The reason I ask is that the name is a definite handicap outside the South.

13 posted on 11/18/2006 11:14:28 AM PST by Miss Marple (Lord, thank you for Mozart Lover's son's safe return, and look after Jemian's son, please!)
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To: eeevil conservative
He won't make it. The country just isn't ready for a President Sonny.

He doesn't have enough national appeal, and would probably do for the Republicans what Alton Parker (1904) and John W. Davis (1924) did for the Democrats -- lock them out of every state north of the Mason-Dixon line.

He's in a new movie coming out this winter (We Are Marshall), though, and that will open up a lot of opportunities for him.

14 posted on 11/18/2006 11:25:09 AM PST by x
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To: eeevil conservative

Chambliss has a good ACU rating. I never hear much about him. I voted for him when I lived in GA.


15 posted on 11/18/2006 11:58:43 AM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: x

I agree with you, x. Sonny's a great guy and devoted conservative, but his curb appeal as a national candidate is questionable.

However, I do look forward to seeing "We Are Marshall!"


16 posted on 11/18/2006 12:10:20 PM PST by Jackal7 (Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty.)
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To: AnAmericanMother
Sonny's a nice guy, and I like him, but he's not ready for prime time.

Exactly.

17 posted on 11/18/2006 12:38:01 PM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: stand watie

Hey, while you are trashing a good man like Perdue, why don't you USE CAPS every other WORD while EXPLAINING HOW MUCH you HATE ABRAHAM LINCOLN and think that DRED SCOTT made the CIVIL WAR ILLEGAL AND IMMORAL and how you just know that the SOUTH WILL RISE AGAIN.

Idiot.



18 posted on 11/18/2006 12:40:04 PM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: AnAmericanMother

you got it right.


19 posted on 11/18/2006 1:40:49 PM PST by YaYa123 (yaya123@No Whining.com)
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To: zbigreddogz
Idiot.

Uncalled for.

20 posted on 11/18/2006 1:50:21 PM PST by groanup (Limited government is the answer. Now, what's the question?)
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To: stand watie

From what I read, the current SC governor is the best FISCAL conservative in the country.


21 posted on 11/18/2006 1:52:18 PM PST by groanup (Limited government is the answer. Now, what's the question?)
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To: groanup

No, it's not.

I've seen this idiot around before. I didn't make up all the stuff I said about him. Those are paraphrases of things he's said to me.


22 posted on 11/18/2006 1:56:26 PM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: eeevil conservative

I like Sonny, too. I am afraid that he might be "tarnished" with just his down home attitude and language in the manner of clinton and carter.


23 posted on 11/18/2006 1:57:44 PM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: zbigreddogz
pardon me, but your unthinking prejudice, ignorance of the facts & obvious lack of IQ is showing.

a simple question for a simpleton:

is it perfectly OK with you if politicians LIE & sell out to anyone, who has the $$$$$$ to pay them off???

a simple YES or NO answer will suffice.

"sonny the liar" is that sort of politician.

and, fwiw, your opinion of my typing style means ZILCH. (those sad creatures,who constantly whine, carp & complain about such things are brainDEAD.)

if you don't like my style, "just scroll on by". (nobody, who has an IQ above room temperature,will miss the prejudiced,hate-FILLED, semi-educated drivel that you "bless us with".)

free dixie,sw

24 posted on 11/18/2006 2:07:37 PM PST by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: stand watie
"sonny the liar" is that sort of politician.

No, he's not.

Your move.

I've offered as much evidence as you have for any of your accusations.

Want to trash Abraham Lincoln some more? You can do that while you're at it if you'd like.

25 posted on 11/18/2006 2:10:42 PM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: groanup
never mind him.

the sound that you hear (to quote my grandfather) is the wind blowing though the hole in his head,where the brains ought to be.

he's just another in a long line of HATERS and prejudiced DUNCES to "bless" FR with their semi-literate bilge.

free dixie,sw

26 posted on 11/18/2006 2:12:59 PM PST by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: stand watie
sw, you know I'm reasonable, and this is one point on which I disagree with you.

Ideological purity is all very well, but I don't think Perdue lied OR sold anybody out. He promised a vote on the flag. There was a vote on the flag.

Now, you may disagree with the exclusion of the old Confederate Battle Emblem design from the vote . . . and you may feel that that was a bit of a bait and switch. But Georgia doesn't have a system that allows a governor to specify the wording of a legislative referendum -- that's done by the General Assembly.

So it would be more correct to say that the General Assembly sold you out, if anybody.

Do you have any other criticism of Perdue? And would you have preferred Mark Taylor?

27 posted on 11/18/2006 2:13:12 PM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: groanup
since he is nothing more or less than the paid servant of the financial/social/business elites of GA, are you really surprised???

i have a "connected" client of mine from Columbus, who after the election LOL about how CHEAP sonny was to to buy.

free dixie,sw

28 posted on 11/18/2006 2:18:05 PM PST by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: groanup
as to the SC governor, i wouldn't argue with that.

and for those who asked in PMs, i currently inclined to support Congressman Tom Tancredo, primarily due to his stand on illegal immigration, for POTUS '08. free dixie,sw

29 posted on 11/18/2006 2:20:27 PM PST by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: stand watie
Well, somebody's got a duty to swear out a warrant, then.

If they can send Bill Campbell to federal prison, shouldn't be a problem to get Perdue there, if he's taking bribes. Put your money where your mouth is.

I've got my ear to the ground pretty well, since I work on the Hill, and I've not heard word one about Perdue taking bribes. If you have information to that effect, you're duty bound to contact the AG (who is a Democrat and would be happy to run with that information.)

30 posted on 11/18/2006 2:22:56 PM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: AnAmericanMother
First National Flag of the Confederacy, the original "Stars and Bars" 1861-1865

The new Ga. State Flag:

I don't see a lot of difference. Whether Sonny sold out can't be seen. He has a lot of influence with the legislature. Personally, I'm okay with the new one.

31 posted on 11/18/2006 2:24:03 PM PST by groanup (Limited government is the answer. Now, what's the question?)
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To: groanup
I know. That's the huge joke on the anti-1956 flag crowd.

The Battle Emblem (St. Andrews' Cross) was never the "official national flag." It was the naval ensign and a battle flag for a number of units, mostly in the Army of Northern Virginia. The Third National had the battle flag in the union, but it wasn't adopted until 1865.

So the current GA flag is more of an "official" Confederate flag than the 1956 one. But most of the anti-Confederate types are FAR too ignorant to know that.

32 posted on 11/18/2006 2:29:07 PM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: AnAmericanMother
actually, he intentionally LIED to the SCV (having sold out to the GA chamber of commerce types) membership so that we would get out our voters, do volunteer work, etc. (did you read his letter to the GA Commander of the SCV??)

sorry, but he ruined himself with not only southrons but also with those who value THE TRUTH.

had he come out & stated, "i'm not on your side" or "i'm neutral on that subject" or "i oppose the old flag of 1956.", we would have accepted that.

otoh,a KNOWING LIAR "doesn't go down well" with me. (fyi, we southrons LIKE the CURRENT flag of GA, as it is the WBTS battle flag of a GA unit.)

free dixie,sw

33 posted on 11/18/2006 2:31:34 PM PST by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: groanup
actually, the "new GA flag" was designed by William Porcher Miles in 1861. (WPM designed MOST of the flags of the dixie states, all 3 of the CSA national flags and many of the CSA unit flags.)

as i said in an earlier post: i like the flag but DESPISE a LIAR!

free dixie,sw

34 posted on 11/18/2006 2:36:35 PM PST by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: stand watie
Excuse me, did you read what I said?

If he promised to get a vote on the flag, even if he promised to get a vote on the 1956 flag, he STILL had to persuade a majority of the General Assembly to draft the wording he proposed.

If he couldn't get the General Assembly to agree to vote on the 1956 flag, there wasn't a darned thing he could do. Separation of powers and all that.

So how did he lie? I don't have a copy of his letter to the SCV, so I don't know exactly what he promised to do. But anybody who's read the GA constitution knows that he couldn't promise to get a referendum with a particular wording . . . only the General Assembly can do that.

35 posted on 11/18/2006 2:40:10 PM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: AnAmericanMother
fyi, BOTH the SECOND & THIRD national flags had the St Andrews Cross. (the CSA congress "got rid of "The Stars & Bars" as it looked too much like the US flag.)

as to the CSA battleflags, only the units approved the designs of the various battleflags.

free dixie,sw

36 posted on 11/18/2006 2:41:16 PM PST by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: stand watie
I had read about the difficulties with the original flag being mistaken in battle for the Stars & Stripes.

I had forgotten about the "Stainless Banner" having the CBE in it, too (that was the one that looked like a surrender flag when the wind wasn't blowing.)

37 posted on 11/18/2006 2:43:14 PM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: AnAmericanMother
in other words, you admit he KNOWINGLY lied to get the votes/money/volunteer work of traditional Georgians/southerners??

if so, you & i agree.

free dixie,sw

38 posted on 11/18/2006 2:43:38 PM PST by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: stand watie
I despise a liar too. Almost as much as I despise people who throw around allegations of corruption without any evidence.

I repeat, if you have information that Perdue has taken bribes, call the AG. His telephone number is 404-656-3300.

39 posted on 11/18/2006 2:45:08 PM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: stand watie
No, I don't admit he lied.

Did he promise to "use his best efforts" to get a referendum on the 1956 flag? What exactly was it that he promised?

If that was what he promised (and I imagine that's what he did say, because that's pretty much the standard language), then if he couldn't get the General Assembly to bite, that doesn't make him a liar. Maybe not as effective an arm-twister as he hoped he was, but not a liar.

40 posted on 11/18/2006 2:47:26 PM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: AnAmericanMother
incidentally, the FIRST Naval Jack was changed to the familiar St Andrews Cross design, when France formally complained that the 1st Naval Jack looked too much like the French Tri-color. (the French were CORRECT, btw. the 1st Naval Jack was vertical bars of blue, white & red, with a circle of 7 red or blue stars appliqued on the white bar.)

as the CSA was seeking recognition by France & GB at that time, this was quickly done.

free dixie,sw

41 posted on 11/18/2006 2:51:44 PM PST by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: eeevil conservative

You kidding, right?
Perdue for president?
Hey, give me some of what you're smoking.

This ex-democrat who could not get elected as a democrat,
jumped ship to the republican party as a convenience,
not as a conviction, just so he could get elected in Georgia,
and he has done a "tolerable" job of being governor.
He is, however, totally unelectable at the national level.


42 posted on 11/18/2006 2:54:24 PM PST by Repeal The 17th
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To: AnAmericanMother
what you haven't seen is the letter to the GA Commander. you have also (i assume) not seen the memo that "got leaked to" us, in which he told the members of the legislature that he would NOT oppose "any change which you may choose to make reference the state flag". later in that same internal memo he said that "i have no fixed position on that issue".

like i said, he LIED.

free dixie,sw

43 posted on 11/18/2006 2:56:47 PM PST by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Repeal The 17th
Man, if you're going to crucify Georgia Democrats for jumping ship to the Republican party, you better get up early tomorrow morning and take a number. And plenty of nails.

Seems like at least a quarter of the General Assembly switched parties over the last 5 years or so.

44 posted on 11/18/2006 2:57:27 PM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: stand watie
So, tell me what the letter to the GA Commander said.

Consider also that the "leaked" memo may have been the result of considerable discussion and nose-counting before a vote. If the issue under discussion was no referendum at all versus a referendum without the '56 flag, that may have been the best deal he could get from the GA leadership.

It would have been an interesting coalition to have to put together, because the suburban Republicans would NOT sign on to it, and some of the rural Dems would not have wanted to sign on to a Republican measure because of the Wrath of Taylor. I imagine the sticking point was in the House.

Also consider who may have leaked it, and why. I could imagine a "progressive" Dem trying to make trouble for Perdue and clear the way for Taylor (who really seems to have believed he could win the 2006 race). Just a thought.

45 posted on 11/18/2006 3:02:09 PM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: AnAmericanMother

These scalawag politicians who "pretend" to suddenly have "convictions"
like as though they have suddenly had a revelation and "come to Jesus"
but actually do so only because they have seen the wind changing
and know they have to do something to save their political hides
do not rate very highly in my book.
I don't forget very easily.
God may have to forgive them, but I am not bound by that obligation.
That's the difference between me and him.

Vote for me.
Please vote for me.
I can change.
I promise.
Just give me one more chance.
I'll say whatever you want me to say.
I'll do whatever you want me to do.
But please.
Oh please.
For God's sake.
Vote for me.


46 posted on 11/18/2006 3:11:35 PM PST by Repeal The 17th
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To: AnAmericanMother
let's agree to disagree. i don't particularly like "getting in a flame war" with a lady.

i've seen BOTH the letter & the memo. you evidently have not.

you evidently think what sonny did was OK. i do NOT.

regardless, i (and all the SCV members/traditional southerners in GA) will continue to despise him as both a liar & a "sell-out".

free dixie,sw

47 posted on 11/18/2006 3:21:58 PM PST by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Repeal The 17th
EXACTLY!

free dixie,sw

48 posted on 11/18/2006 3:22:51 PM PST by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: AnAmericanMother
btw, i note that your profile page features the 1956 GA flag.

free dixie,sw

49 posted on 11/18/2006 3:23:59 PM PST by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: stand watie

I "preshate" it.


50 posted on 11/18/2006 3:24:47 PM PST by Repeal The 17th
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