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Our Tiny Little Minds ^ | December 4, 2006 | yours truly, et al

Posted on 12/03/2006 9:36:19 PM PST by SunkenCiv

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I couldn't get Zatta melon seeds last year, but plan to order early for 2007.

The reason I've started a fresh topic (besides the guidelines around here) is that the Stokes seed catalog arrived a week ago, and this week I got the Totally Tomatoes catalog. Next, if history is any guide, will be Thompson and Morgan.
1 posted on 12/03/2006 9:36:21 PM PST by SunkenCiv
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Turkish Orange Eggplant

Turkish Orange Eggplant, Seeds of Change

2 posted on 12/03/2006 9:38:37 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, November 16, 2006 https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Lakota squash (a.k.a. old-fashioned Hubbard)

Lakota squash (a.k.a. old-fashioned Hubbard)

3 posted on 12/03/2006 9:41:46 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, November 16, 2006 https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Finally, someone offers Golden Pearl tomato seed:
Packet contains equal amounts of Matt's Wild Cherry, Mirabell, Golden Pearl and White Rabbit

4 posted on 12/03/2006 9:42:02 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, November 16, 2006 https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Striped Cavern stuffer tomato, Agrestal Online Store

Striped Cavern stuffer tomato, Agrestal Online Store
other varieties of hollow "Stuffer" tomatoes
5 posted on 12/03/2006 9:44:23 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, November 16, 2006 https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

We're on the same mailing lists! Got my Seymour Seeds catalog a few days ago. Lots of hard-to-find flower seeds in that one.


6 posted on 12/03/2006 9:50:45 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie (L'Chaim!)
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To: SunkenCiv

I wish I was physically able, I miss my garden. The local agriculture center is just up the road, I about live there in good weather.
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v244/tsiya/COUNTY%20ARBORETUM/


7 posted on 12/03/2006 9:54:50 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (BUAIDH NO BAS)
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cheap source:

Christmas Lima Bean

Christmas Lima Bean

8 posted on 12/03/2006 9:57:21 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, November 16, 2006 https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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(the other source I found for this is sold out)

Applegreen Eggplant

Applegreen Eggplant

9 posted on 12/03/2006 9:57:36 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, November 16, 2006 https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Haven't tried this one either.

Strawberry Watermelon 2g seed -- 85 days. [Selected from a Florida heirloom by Walt Childs and introduced by SESE in 1989.] 'Strawberry' is an excelílent garden variety waterímelon with intensely colored, strawberry-red flesh which ripens to within 1/2" of the rind. The texture is delicate and the sweet flavor is outstanding, distinctive, and the best we offer. The melons are long (8 x 20"), dark green, with darker green stripes. Fruits have fewer seeds and range between 15 and 25 lbs. Disease resistance is very good. 2 g Limit 2 Packets.

10 posted on 12/03/2006 10:00:47 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, November 16, 2006 https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: LibFreeOrDie

Hey, I'm not sure I'd heard of Seymour, will check it out online in a minute. :')


11 posted on 12/03/2006 10:05:59 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, November 16, 2006 https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Thanks!


12 posted on 12/03/2006 10:06:11 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, November 16, 2006 https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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I'm still searching for sources of Cob Melon seed.

Resources for Seed Saving and Related web sites

13 posted on 12/03/2006 10:25:02 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, November 16, 2006 https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Just a logo idea for a non-existent ping list.
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14 posted on 02/03/2007 12:50:02 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Saturday, February 3, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

If you start a ping list put me on SunkenCiv.


15 posted on 02/03/2007 12:58:30 PM PST by fatima
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To: fatima

I'm not going to, but this topic was started with that kinda in mind. :')


16 posted on 02/03/2007 12:59:38 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Saturday, February 3, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

OK:)


17 posted on 02/03/2007 1:00:50 PM PST by fatima
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To: fatima

I'm hoping that the existence of a nice lookin' logo will provide the needed incentive for someone else to start one on cooking and gardening, both of which are of interest around here (well, and anywhere). :')


18 posted on 02/03/2007 1:06:40 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Saturday, February 3, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

I got you:).I am getting hungry just looking:)We have a very large flower garden front and back.I used to do flower's from seeds.That was fun.


19 posted on 02/03/2007 1:09:38 PM PST by fatima
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To: SunkenCiv

Howdy....

My family and I are new to gardening. I've been studying up on "Square-foot gardening" and we want to start a garden this year. Has anyone here had any experience with this type of gardening? Any tips would be great. We also want to use a lot of different heirloom seeds also and any advice on that would be great as well. Thanks.


20 posted on 02/03/2007 1:22:06 PM PST by BigBlueJon (Superman wears Jack Bauer pajamas to bed.......Jack Bauer wears George W pajamas.)
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To: BigBlueJon

"Square Foot Gardening" (the book) is out in a recent edition (I picked up a copy for a relative's birthday). There's also "Cubed Foot Gardening" by another author. Both are (I believe) based on the French Intensive Method. I tried it a number of years ago, but my yard must have been a toxic waste dump or something, so I confine my gardening efforts to when I'm out in the country. :') Try it on a small scale first, with something you're going to eat for sure (three or four different crops), as you will need a lot of compost and/or compostable material. Each year you'll have more compost, and can expand your efforts.


21 posted on 02/03/2007 1:28:15 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Saturday, February 3, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: fatima

It is getting on toward that time of the year (starting seeds). I like spring, and love summer. Of course, that's easy to say during a week like this one. ;')


22 posted on 02/03/2007 1:30:03 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Saturday, February 3, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Well some day I will find the time to do seeds again.


23 posted on 02/03/2007 1:31:43 PM PST by fatima
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To: SunkenCiv

Thanks....I've been looking at the official SFG website and getting some ideas. Beans and tomatoes are a good start for us. We're definately going to try it.


24 posted on 02/03/2007 1:33:53 PM PST by BigBlueJon (Superman wears Jack Bauer pajamas to bed.......Jack Bauer wears George W pajamas.)
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Why the lady[bug] is running short of lovers
Daily Mail | 5th February 2007 | FIONA MACRAE
Posted on 02/06/2007 4:56:12 PM EST by Lorianne
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Fungus causes pumpkins to develop mold
Yahoo News | 10/4/06 | Yahoo/News
Posted on 10/05/2006 3:53:14 PM EDT by Jaded
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25 posted on 02/06/2007 10:01:16 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Saturday, February 3, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Coleus

According to cgk's list, there is no gardening ping list, nor is there a cooking / recipe ping list. That seems a little weird to me. I did manage to botch up a pretty nice lookin' ping list logo...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1748035/posts?page=14#14

I'm just not willing to take on another list. Know anyone?


26 posted on 02/19/2007 6:47:57 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, February 19, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

thanks for the ping...isn't it a good time to put lime in the soil?


27 posted on 02/19/2007 7:21:05 PM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, insects)
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To: Coleus

If I could see any soil here in Michigan, I might agree with ya. ;')


28 posted on 02/19/2007 7:29:54 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, February 19, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Unique Tomatoes Tops in Disease-Fighting Antioxidants
Yibanet.com | Mar 1, 2007
Posted on 03/02/2007 10:03:05 PM EST by nickcarraway
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1794367/posts


29 posted on 03/02/2007 10:19:59 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, February 19, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fedora; Fred Nerks; ...

just a bttt.

Planted tomatoes two weeks ago — just two, and put those under caps. The other six plants (all are Romas) sat in the plastic packs all week, somewhat protected. Last weekend planted the rest, and removed the two caps, while adding a beefsteak.

Also repotted a volunteer from last year, one that had come up in the compost pile, and had survived the frost. I’d cut out a nice green chunk, rooted it in an old wine bottle, and after it thrived a few weeks indoors, potted it, and kept it alive and kickin’ all winter. I’d repotted it once, but this current pot should be its home all season. It is protected by a wall of water.

Here in Michigan, garden transplants are done near the end of May.


30 posted on 05/10/2007 9:21:24 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated May 7, 2007.)
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Tuesday, April 3, it was 84 degrees.

It snowed the next day, and that snow hung around for days. The following week sometime we had a slush storm, and that melted over a couple of days. It was up and down, but never really warm until this week. It has been beautiful.


31 posted on 05/10/2007 9:24:41 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated May 7, 2007.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Do they have any Oriental vegetables? My wife wants to try some, and I couldn’t find any after a quick search.


32 posted on 05/10/2007 1:56:22 PM PDT by Berosus ("There is no beauty like Jerusalem, no wealth like Rome, no depravity like Arabia."--the Talmud)
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To: Berosus

To come up with these links, I used Google either directly or indirectly. I’d be surprised if some source isn’t available for whatever seeds she seeks.


33 posted on 05/11/2007 8:39:40 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated May 10, 2007.)
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To: neverdem

The Mathematical Lives of Plants
Science News Online | Week of May 5, 2007 | Julie J. Rehmeyer
Posted on 05/11/2007 1:22:23 AM EDT by neverdem
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1831787/posts


34 posted on 05/11/2007 9:41:54 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated May 10, 2007.)
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On Tuesday I planted flowers, a Brandywine tomato plant, a butternut squash plant, a buttercup squash plant, and replanted the potato plants which come up every year in the same old garden spot.


35 posted on 05/17/2007 11:36:57 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated May 18, 2007.)
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I found the Black Diamond watermelon seeds and planted them Sunday, May 27th. I’d forgotten to mention the Scorzonera, but last week I noticed that my last-year’s seeds (ordered from a commercial source) seem to have germinated quite nicely. I’m still hunting the Golden Pearl seeds.

Regarding Scorzonera recipes, there are loads of ‘em online.


36 posted on 06/02/2007 9:11:26 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated May 31, 2007.)
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To: neverdem

thanks neverdem.

Barbara Kingsolver’s Latest Fiction - Life on the farm ain’t always a picnic
Reason | June 1, 2007 | Ronald Bailey
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In Tennessee, Goats Eat the ‘Vine That Ate the South’
NY Times | June 5, 2007 | THEO EMERY
Posted on 06/05/2007 1:51:35 AM EDT by neverdem
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37 posted on 06/06/2007 11:37:21 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated May 31, 2007.)
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Last night I dug out a sunflower volunteer and transplanted it this morning, along with a California Wonder sweet pepper plant, and a tray of catharanthus to replace some which had vanished (gophers?). All that remains to do is a partial flat of leftover marigolds, but then again, watch this space...


38 posted on 06/06/2007 11:39:36 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated May 31, 2007.)
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To: Berosus; Coleus; KlueLass; texasredhead8712; ValerieTexas

Eating the Environment: A Literary Kitchen Cornucopia
NYTimes Book Review | June 15, 2007 | William Grimes
Posted on 06/14/2007 8:50:11 PM EDT by Diana in Wisconsin
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1850443/posts


39 posted on 06/14/2007 10:36:16 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated June 8, 2007.)
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To: Berosus; Coleus; KlueLass; texasredhead8712; ValerieTexas

Eating the Environment: A Literary Kitchen Cornucopia
NYTimes Book Review | June 15, 2007 | William Grimes
Posted on 06/14/2007 8:50:11 PM EDT by Diana in Wisconsin
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1850443/posts


40 posted on 06/14/2007 10:37:57 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated June 8, 2007.)
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To: Berosus; Coleus; KlueLass; texasredhead8712; ValerieTexas

Eating the Environment: A Literary Kitchen Cornucopia
NYTimes Book Review | June 15, 2007 | William Grimes
Posted on 06/14/2007 8:50:11 PM EDT by Diana in Wisconsin
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1850443/posts


41 posted on 06/14/2007 10:42:11 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated June 8, 2007.)
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Watermelon Declared [Oklahoma] State Vegetable
kotv.com | Updated 4/18/2007 6:09 AM | staff writer
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42 posted on 06/14/2007 11:03:28 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated June 8, 2007.)
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Mysterious Kidney Disease Blamed On Bad Bread
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43 posted on 07/10/2007 12:00:14 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Monday, July 10, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; KlueLass; ...

Tomato soup ‘boosts fertility’
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Help! I’m food confused
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Uganda’s ‘sex tree’ under threat
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44 posted on 07/28/2007 2:59:50 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Thursday, July 26, 2007 https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Flower Children T-Shirt

45 posted on 08/07/2007 11:54:44 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Monday, August 6, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv
Found this old thread and your diary. I’m surprised there is not a regular gardening topic. I’ve gardened since I was 6 and I’m 74 now. I wonder how many tons of compost I have made and how many acres of soil I have spaded. Just today I spaded a 12 X 16 patch for the garlic that gets planted in Oct. I have cut it down to 7 different varieties.

I live and garden in Eureka Ca where it never snows and hardly freezes but rains for 5 winter months and the average summer temp is 65 by day and 58 nights.

46 posted on 09/04/2007 8:06:41 PM PDT by tubebender (My first great grandson is a Miniature Schnauzer...)
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To: tubebender

Wow, a 12 X 16 garlic patch? That should keep the vampires miles away. ;’)

I share your wonder that there isn’t a regular gardening topic (apart from this one) since there are obviously gardeners here on FR. I think I posted my prototype for a Cooking and Gardening ping list logo / message somewhere up there. If you start a ping list, let me know. :’)


47 posted on 09/04/2007 9:40:30 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Wednesday, August 29, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/1748035/posts?page=14#14


48 posted on 09/04/2007 10:15:31 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Wednesday, August 29, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

My heirloom tomatoes have started ripening

—BLACK PRINCE
—BLACK CHERRY
—AMISH GOLD
—AMY’S SUGAR SWEET
—MANDARIN CROSS
—HAWAIIAN CURRENTS—THE SIZE OF CURRENTS—VERY GOOD FLAVOR
—BULGARIAN TRIUMPHS
—BRANDYWINES HAVE YET TO RIPEN

a couple of vines developed some sort of leaf curl and essentially I cut them off at the ground. One was in a pot of only Miracle Grow soil . . . not sure where a disease could have come along—growing from seed.

Anyway—great tomatoes. Love the variety of flavors.

Also BERRIES GALORE strawberries are hard to beat.

I got a large PVC pipe and put it at about a 15% angle full of Miracle Grow soil and about every 8” or so a strawberry plant. I water them at the top with a big elbow 3-4 times a day. Probably should put an upright pipe part of a foot or two and water less. I drilled 3-4 holes in a cap on the bottom end of the large pipe for water to drain out. I recycle the nutrient rich water caught in one of my stoneware pottery pots.

My raspberries are doing well. But I think I’ll have to give up the raised bed to them alone next year and leave tomatoes out of it. I have one variety that is sending canes over 6 feet. I keep tying them up to the PVC framing . . . no hint of blooms. May whack the tips off. Getting to be a bit of a nusiance.

My blueberries seem to struggle in our alkalai soil without the sulpher and acid fertilizer. Didn’t realize it was so critical. Doing better now that I’ve wised up. The small seedling sorts of plants have not done much. The larger purchased at Lowes has put out some new shoots after adjusting with acid fertilizer. Had put some of Sterns sulpher to neutralize the alkalai but that evidently wasn’t enough.

Will be interesting to see how soon frost comes here in the four corners area.

thanks for this thread.


49 posted on 09/04/2007 10:37:53 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: SunkenCiv

BTW, I have a dwarf bananna in a large southern glassed hallway at the college. No hint of a fruit branch yet. It’s near 6 feet or so. A different dwarf variety of the head of the art dept is about the same height and no fruit branch either. Any suggestions?

They are putting off shoots as is common, I guess.

My orange and tangerine dwarf plants have yet to flower after two years.

The gardenia has done well outdoors this summer.

And I have a vine similar to stephanotis but not that . . . very fragrant, though.

And a potted peppermint that I enjoy. Interesting flowers.


50 posted on 09/04/2007 10:40:37 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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