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Heads UP - Serious Chatter
Antimullah ^ | December 6th, 2006 | Alan Peters

Posted on 12/06/2006 1:44:01 PM PST by FARS

SERIOUS CHATTER INDICATES SOME HEAVY DUTY EVENTS ARE ABOUT TO TAKE PLACE IN OR RELATIVE TO IRAN.

Far bigger activity than Human Rights student demonstrations scheduled for Iran today. More when I get clearer details but it appears some serious political activity or plan has come into play.

As a side bar, note Iran has virtually stopped accepting Dollars for oil payments being made to it. This unlinking of the dollar from oil can create a worldwide disaster as the Dollar loses its underpinning - oil.

NOTE: the Dollar has already lost strength against other currencies in the past couple of weeks.

Central Banks would begin to lighten their Dollar holdings to minimize their losses as the value of the dollar declines, putting ever more pressure on the Dollar.

Even creating a run on it, similar to a run on a bank which becomes insolvent and depositors rushing to withdraw their money. Destabilizing the bank even further.

The downward spiral of the Dollar will soon drag down other currencies. One of the reasons we went into Iraq was to prevent this slippery slope. Russia, Saddam Hussein and a couple of other countries like Nigeria had put selling their oil mostly in Euros on the table.

Had OPEC been allowed to follow suit, the whole world, not just the USA would have suffered inconceivable economical dislocation.

Go to "Oil Story Revisited" via the Archive Details link in the left hand column. Far more dangerous than nuclear weapons, if the dollar crashes - and under some circumstances it will be hard, or impossible, to prevent this. The world economy crashes with it.

Because there was some vestige of sanity in the old Iranian Mullah leadership, till about a year ago, when Ahmadi-Nejad was "selected" President, mostly to protect their own enormous wealth, the Mullahs were careful not to destabilize the value of the Dollar.

Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei, who was a destitute cleric at the time of the 1979 Khomeini revolution, fairly recently moved some two BILLION Dollars of personal assets from various holdings around the world into a couple of Moslem Asian countries like Malaysia, Brunei and also Singapore.

(Ahmadi-Nejad - on behalf of Iran, emptied Swiss bank vaults of gold bullion owned by Iran at around the same time).

Khamenei used to live in a two room dwelling in the poorest part of town feeding himself and his family through sporadic, tiny, charitable donations in the city of Mash'had in North-East Iran.

His only income came from joining (unsolicited) a multiple of other insignificant clerics at burials, following the casket or shroud to the grave and singing "dirges" hoping to receive a tip from the family and mourners.

Were it not "religious" we would rightly term it begging.

By contrast, Ahmadi-Nejad, also coming from an impoverished family has lived frugally all his life, owns little or nothing and cannot imagine not being able to supply himself with the unleavened bread and Fetta cheese, tea and daily stew on which he lives. World crash or no world crash.

Interestingly, when "ayatollah" Khamenei was an indigent cleric, he was asked his philosophy about how he might operate were he to wake up and find himself the most powerful man in Iran. The allegory used was "find himself in the shoes of the Shah".

After protests he could not imagine himself in such a high position, he stated he would take the wealth of the nation and distribute it all among the populace, specially the poor, so nobody would have to face the misery and poverty he was enduring.

Look at the misery, torture, imprisonment and poverty he has inflicted since then on his erstwhile (beloved??) fellow citizens.

He showed the same mentality and ignorance of fiscal and economical requirements that Khomeini did when he arrived on scene in 1979. Both these ignorant clerics could recite the Koran but in all other subjects knew next to nothing - and I am not exaggerating. They resemble students who go to school forever but only study one subject - philosophy - to the exclusion of everything else.

Shortly after his return, Khomeini responded to a question about Iran's forthcoming budget, with "I have it on a piece of paper in my pocket!" Referring to what required several thick volumes (just as indexes) and suitcases in which to carry them to the Majliss (parliament) for ratification.

By the way, the self-righteous Ahmadi-Nejad, apparently is not as righteous as he pretends, reportedly passing sizeable contracts to his brother while mayor of Tehran and according to some sources lining his own pockets.

And the pockets of the representative of the Hojatieh spiritual leader, Mohammad Taghi Mesbah Yazdi, attached his personal office/secretariat and "keeper of the gate" without whose approval nobody gets to see Ahmadi-Nejad.

Not even his own staff or Cabinet Ministers.

Putting all this into perspective, Ahmadi-Nejad has suddenly ratcheted up his threats to cover the whole Western civilization, not just Israel, disappearing from the face of the earth. He only has a half dozen nukes, so he is certainly referring to his oil/currency disruptive capability.

A far deadlier weapon than the subject of nuclear weapons, which has kept focus off the radar screen of the news media, tactical and strategic analysts, intel assessments and those in power.

Hopefully, the new Democrat Congress will get over their myopic Bush bashing and rise to the occasion and literally help save the world.

If they wish to be around long enough to enjoy their win. Not politically but in real life as millions of Americans lose jobs, incomes etc., which even the US government cannot help overcome with Welfare or soup kitchens.

This applies in Spades to the European Union that still has its head stuck deep in the sand, pretending it cannot happen, when it certainly will. Unless stopped just as drastically as the drastic consequences of not doing so.

Hitler will have been a walk in the park compared to what we are about to receive.

I ask this question of all readers: better destroy 400,000 Revolutionary Guards and all of their equipment (simply burying the entrances to nuclear facilities will suffice for now on that aspect), perhaps inflict somewhere in the region of 40,000 civilian deaths as collateral damage and thus open the way for a suddenly freed populace to rise up and destroy the Mullahs - or play nice and civilized (they do not) and suffer tens of millions, perhaps hundreds of millions of casualties around the globe, in death and suffering when the global economy crashes?

Inconceivable? Not if you follow the dotted lines and know your global economy and how fragile it really is. There is not enough money in the world to buy up suddenly available dollars to bolster the currency, even if every Central Bank decided to do that instead of divesting itself out of self-preservation.

Think carefully about being goody-goody two shoes in this clash of cultures led by an Islamic nutcase.


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To: norton

If they do, they do. You can't do much to stop people from cutting off their nose to spite their face, even if it hurts us. All we can do is pull together and survive and not worry about the crashing economies all over the world.


41 posted on 12/06/2006 4:20:06 PM PST by McGavin999 (Republicans take out our trash, Democrats re-elect theirs)
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To: FARS

The $US has stabilized versus the $EU the past few days.


42 posted on 12/06/2006 4:22:00 PM PST by RightWhale (RTRA DLQS GSCW)
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To: FARS

And does Alan Peters have a source of his own for his assertion that Iran already has half a dozen nukes?


43 posted on 12/06/2006 4:23:41 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Dont overestimate the decency of the human race. H. L. Mencken)
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To: McGavin999
in a depression, the US will still survive

True fact. We will complain bitterly and continue as usual, maybe cutting back on some things a little, but the emerging economies will be in flames.

44 posted on 12/06/2006 4:24:32 PM PST by RightWhale (RTRA DLQS GSCW)
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To: SomeoneNeedsToSayIt

Maybe I can use that old Mexican 1991 5000-peso note that I have tucked away somewhere and buy some pennies with it.


45 posted on 12/06/2006 4:26:06 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Dont overestimate the decency of the human race. H. L. Mencken)
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To: RaceBannon
before Patton saw combat in WWII

Not that he wasn't ready, willing and able all along.

46 posted on 12/06/2006 4:26:14 PM PST by RightWhale (RTRA DLQS GSCW)
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To: nuconvert

I'd probably call it an Assembly of Idiots. If Iran really does start buying oil in Euros, and that severely hurts the world economy, how are they going to acquire suddenly-scarce food and gasoline for their people? Idiots.

They'd rather have millions of fellow muslims die of starvation from lack of imported food than see America continue to succeed.


47 posted on 12/06/2006 4:29:59 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Dont overestimate the decency of the human race. H. L. Mencken)
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To: FARS

Yahoo! Goods manufactured in the US will become more marketable.


48 posted on 12/06/2006 4:43:44 PM PST by Tennessean4Bush (I would never belong to any club that would have someone like me as a member.)
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To: 2111USMC; 2nd Bn, 11th Mar; 68 grunt; A.A. Cunningham; ASOC; AirForceBrat23; Ajnin; AlaskaErik; ...

Ping


49 posted on 12/06/2006 6:28:16 PM PST by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: freema
I don't believe for one minute Iran's action will have much effect on the US economy or for that matter most of the industrial nations.
For crying out loud, the world only buys so much oil from them. Unless every oil producing nation followed suit, this will have little effect.
Huge amounts of monies are made in all types of commodities produced the world over. Hell, the price of copper has gone sky high, and we don't see the US economy crashing. And believe me, huge amounts of copper go into tens of thousands of products and processes every year.
This is a poorly disguised article to further champion the need to attack Iran, and nothing more IMHO. I am not going to loose any sleep over it.
50 posted on 12/06/2006 6:48:28 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: FARS
One of the reasons we went into Iraq was to prevent this slippery slope.

huh ?
51 posted on 12/06/2006 7:16:15 PM PST by stylin19a ("Klaatu Barada Nikto")
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To: FARS; Cool Guy; CounterCounterCulture; Arkat Kingtroll; bayareablues; pbear8; Jerez2; SunStar; ...
"...Think carefully about being goody-goody two shoes in this clash of cultures led by an Islamic nutcase..."

Well, we're ready, and we're able. The only question left is: "Are we willing?"

Now, count the number of mosques in your neighbourhoods, note their locations, then stay well armed and safe......................FRegards

52 posted on 12/06/2006 7:47:52 PM PST by gonzo (I'm not confused anymore. Now I'm sure we have to completely destroy Islam, and FAST!!)
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To: FARS
Somehow we fail to conceive the extent of lunacy Iran can turn out to destroy us.

Iran's a threat - I don't know why people don't see it...

53 posted on 12/06/2006 8:21:29 PM PST by GOPJ (Male homosexuality-worse for your health than sugar, transfats, obesity, and SUV's together.)
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To: McGavin999; All

"FARS there is no way the Iranians are going to crash the US economy. If they do, they crash the world economy and theirs right along with it."



As if Iran cares if their economy gets destroyed. You might, the powerless populace might, the old timer Mullahs might but not Ahmadi-Nejad and Ayatollah Mesbah Yazdi.

Alan Peters and I continue to fail to get across that your logic is not the logic of Ahmadi-Nejad and his Hojatieh Moslem sect. They would rejoice in the world crashing and Iran with it.

You have to climb out of your logical reasoning and assessment of NORMAL human emotions and goals.

You are not dealing with anything you have ever encountered so it's almost impossible for you and most Americans and even most people in general to get their minds around this.

Pol Pot killed a couple of million of his countrymen, who wore glasses, because their poor eyesight was an indicator they had read books or studied. And he did not want anyone with knowledge to be around and perhaps confront or challenge his dictatorship.

He is a sane, logical person compared to the Hojatieh sect and their desire for Armageddon and apocalyptic desires. and they have nukes. But nukes are not the threat. Unlinking oil from dollars is.


54 posted on 12/06/2006 9:17:59 PM PST by FARS
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To: redgolum; All

"Could also be that the sick banking system of China is about to have a major hiccup".




The huge dollar holdings may be the only incentive for China to stop opposing any harsh measures against Iran.

They have $300 BILLION oil and gas contracts of various kinds with Iran and would likely send in their troops to "maintain peace and stability in the region" (protect their investment). On the other hand if they see that the world economy will crash and drag them into a similar situation of people starving in the streets that the USA would face, they might sign onto destroying the Iranian regime.


55 posted on 12/06/2006 9:26:07 PM PST by FARS
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To: RightWhale

Iran has only just started to insist on Euros or barter instead of the dollar. Unless exacerbated by a run on the dollar and a crash of our currency, it will take a bit of time for the effect to take hold.

In the meantime, we could see an ever downward value trend with some small temporary recoveries as the world tries to resist the plunge. But as I said, in the long run there is not enough money in the world to bolster the Dollar should a run on it occur. Or stop the run.


56 posted on 12/06/2006 9:32:11 PM PST by FARS
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; All

"And does Alan Peters have a source of his own for his assertion that Iran already has half a dozen nukes?"




More than one source including eyes on the ground that have verified this matter, which by the way is known to the intel community, just not publicly acknowledged.

To learn more details, go to http://www.antimullah.com - click on the Archive Details page and read the article "Iran's Nukes".

There are apparently four operational nukes in nose cone warheads on Shahab 3 missiles, with possibly another two completed, which were being worked on.


57 posted on 12/06/2006 9:38:31 PM PST by FARS
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To: FARS

Thanks for the ping!


58 posted on 12/06/2006 9:41:44 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: stylin19a

"One of the reasons we went into Iraq was to prevent this slippery slope. "huh ?"




The claim we went in for their oil is partly true but not in a selfish manner but to prevent Saddam Husssein and Russia and Iran and perhaps eventually all of the OPEC oil producing countries to change their purchase of oil in Dollars to Euros.

Iraq with its second or third biggest oil reserves in the world, its location as a center in the war against terrorism
was a perfect spot from which to protect American interests - meaning you and me - not the oil companies.

For a clearer picture take alook at "Mullah Threat not Sinking In" on http://www.antimullah.com


59 posted on 12/06/2006 9:47:37 PM PST by FARS
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To: gonzo; All
"Count mosques in our neighborhoods"

My survey in the general area is that from about a dozen mosques in the region about two years ago there are now OVER 100. I have acquired the addresses and phone numbers of all of them. Work in progress to ID the clientele by persuasions and affiliations.
60 posted on 12/06/2006 9:53:25 PM PST by FARS
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