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The Real Agenda of Liberals
American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War on America ^ | Karl Popper, Chris Hedges

Posted on 01/16/2007 3:21:14 PM PST by Wallace T.

"Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them. In this formulation, I do not imply, for instance, that we should always suppress the utterance of intolerant philosophies; as long as we can counter them by rational argument and keep them in check by public opinion, suppression would certainly be most unwise. But we should claim the right to suppress them if necessary even by force; for it may easily turn out that they are not prepared to meet us on the level of rational argument, but begin by denouncing all argument; they may forbid their followers to listen to rational argument, because it is deceptive, and teach them to answer arguments by the use of their fists or pistols. We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant. We should claim that any movement preaching intolerance places itself outside the law, and we should consider incitement to intolerance and persecution as criminal, in the same way as we should consider incitement to murder, or to kidnapping, or to the revival of the slave trade, as criminal." (Karl Popper, The Open Society and Its Enemies)

This quotation from Karl Popper, a British philosopher and professor of Austrian origin, and a mentor of leftist billionaire George Soros, was used as an introduction to a book by Chris Hedges, a New York Times correspondent, in his book, American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War On America, (2007, Simon and Shuster). The first chapter of the book is posted at the Simon and Shuster Web site,

KEYWORDS: freespeech; hiddenagenda; liberalism; secularhumanism
Chris Hedges, the author, is a Red diaper baby, the son of a left wing, heterodox Presbyterian minister from upstate New York. A 15 year foreign correspondent for The New York Times, he also attended the radical Harvard Divinity School before becoming a reporter.

Employing a left wing version of "McCarthyite" tactics, Hedges creates a myth of a dominionist cabal taking over the institutions of government much as, say, Robert Welch saw a massive Communist conspiracy doing so 40-50 years ago. Dominion theology or Reconstructionism is very much a minority opinion among conservative Calvinists, who in turn are a minority among evangelicals. Most leaders of the Christian Right, such as Dobson, Robertson, and Falwell, are not even Calvinists, much less advocates of dominion theology.

With proposals by Speaker Pelosi to restrict advocacy groups and by Congressman Kucinich to reinstate the Fairness Doctrine, the direction the liberals want to take this country is evident.

1 posted on 01/16/2007 3:21:16 PM PST by Wallace T.
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To: Wallace T.

They love confusion and chaos.

2 posted on 01/16/2007 3:23:28 PM PST by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: Wallace T.

As you say. The one religion that offers real problems for constitutional democracy is Islam.

Classical Calvinism would seem to be problematic, too, since it leaves no place for free will. But in the first place it has no tradition of jihad. It leaves the reprobate to their fate, unlike Islam's attitude toward infidels, who must be converted, subdued, or destroyed. The closest Calvinism has come to being really oppressive was in the Massachusetts Bay Colony, but that really only lasted for about a generation.

My experience among Evangelicals confirms what you say. The majority do not seem to be strict Calvinists, and those who are, such as some of my friends at Calvin College, still appear to be tolerant of the beliefs of others.

What you can be pretty sure of, however, is that the one religion these bigots won't venture to criticize is Islam.

3 posted on 01/16/2007 3:30:36 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Wallace T.

Now hold on, I'm lactose Intolerant, and no amount of legislation will make me tolerate lactoses. I can't stand lactoses. I don't like what they stand for, how they act, or the way they try to push their loose life style on me.

I'm calling on Speaker Pelosi to immediately put a ban on Lactose immigration.

4 posted on 01/16/2007 3:59:56 PM PST by Lokibob (Greatest snow on earth.
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To: Cicero
Conservative Calvinists have been an important element in the capitalist and relatively free societies of Britain, the Netherlands, and the United States. Some of the signers of the Declaration of Independence, such as John Witherspoon and Samuel Adams, were strict Calvinists, and that document was in part based on the Mecklenburg Declaration of Independence, issued immediately upon the start of the War for Independence by citizens in what is now Charlotte, North Carolina. Most of the signers were Presbyterians of Scottish or Scots-Irish origin. Several Presidents, including Cleveland, Jackson, Lincoln, and Wilson, came from families of conservative Calvinist background, although in the case of Wilson, he aligned as an adult with the liberals in his Presbyterian denomination.

What is at issue is not the relationship of Calvinism to representative government and personal freedom but the false image liberals are attempting to portray of the Christian Right for the purpose of restricting first political, and then religious, speech. They seek to eviscerate the First Amendment to make such freedom subject to government censorship in matters deemed "hate speech" (e.g. Canada, Britain, Austria, and Sweden) in order to facilitate their agenda.

5 posted on 01/16/2007 4:01:19 PM PST by Wallace T.
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To: Lokibob

Your argument is really cheesy. :)

6 posted on 01/16/2007 4:02:11 PM PST by Wallace T.
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To: Wallace T.

That is not the WHEY to sway my thinking, YOUGURT me?

7 posted on 01/16/2007 4:03:48 PM PST by Lokibob (Greatest snow on earth.
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To: Wallace T.

This guy Hedges hasn't a clue as to who I am, nor why I'll never give any of his ilk more than a passing glance. (This is his.)

My conservatism doen't stem from weekly attendance at services of any sort. My love of country isn't seated in having served in our armed forces.

My belief is that unless enough of my fellow citizens are not willing to stand and defend the Constitution. his family, and his neighbors when they are threatened, we have lost the Freedoms that Mr. Hedges proclaims are being usurped by my fellow citizens who are simply exercising the rights guaranteed by that Constitution.

8 posted on 01/16/2007 4:05:45 PM PST by hotshu (Baghdad=New Orleans. Ask William Jefferson, (D-LA), Kathleen Blanco, (D-LA), Mary Landrieu (D-LA))
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To: Wallace T.; All

There's no more FASCISTIC or INTOLERANT group than the far left in this country. They and Hedges don't even have a clue what the definition of fascism is anyway.

9 posted on 01/16/2007 5:05:17 PM PST by FreeKeys (HAVE YOU DONATED YET? Don't make me embarrass you!)
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To: hotshu

Well said, hotshu.

10 posted on 01/16/2007 5:32:18 PM PST by MonicaG (In hoc signo vinces)
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To: Lokibob; Wallace T.

Ok guys, stop milking the bad puns.

11 posted on 01/16/2007 5:36:28 PM PST by Eagle Eye (I'm a RINO because I'm too conservative to be a real Republican.)
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To: Eagle Eye; Wallace T.

My COWorkers are all lactoses. The place is an UTTER disaster.

12 posted on 01/16/2007 5:46:13 PM PST by Lokibob (Greatest snow on earth.
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To: LibertarianInExile

dairy ban punnin' goin' on here

13 posted on 01/16/2007 8:43:54 PM PST by FreeKeys (HAVE YOU DONATED YET? ? ? ? ? ?)
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To: FreeKeys

I agree. These jokes are not GOUDAt all.

14 posted on 01/17/2007 4:56:18 AM PST by Wallace T.
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