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When And Why Joseph C Wilson IV Outed Valerie Plame
Sweetness & Light ^ | March 17, 2007 | Steve Gilbert

Posted on 03/17/2007 3:37:58 AM PDT by Sam Hill

Before we put Plame "leak" story to bed once and for all, I want to reiterate out what I first posited almost two years ago, which now seems to be more true than ever.

It was almost certainly Mr. Joseph C. Wilson IV who "outed" his wife as a CIA officer.

And he probably did this in early May 2003 at after meeting with top level Democrats and around the time he began to work for the John Kerry for President campaign.

Let's run through the chronology.

January 28, 2003: President George W. Bush gave his State of the Union speech.

February 6, 2003: Joe Wilson wrote an editorial for the Los Angeles Times, A 'Big Cat' With Nothing to Lose, in which he claimed we should not attack Saddam Hussein because he will use his weapons of mass destruction on our troops and give them to terrorists.

There is now no incentive for Hussein to comply with the inspectors or to refrain from using weapons of mass destruction to defend himself if the United States comes after him.

And he will use them; we should be under no illusion about that.

February 28, 2003: Joe Wilson is interviewed by Bill Moyers. Wilson agrees with Bush's SOTU remarks, and reiterates his belief that Saddam has WMD.
MOYERS: President Bush's recent speech to the American Enterprise Institute, he said, let me quote it to you. "The danger posed by Saddam Hussein and his weapons cannot be ignored or wished away." You agree with that?
 
WILSON: I agree with that. Sure.
 
MOYERS: "The danger must be confronted." You agree with that? "We would hope that the Iraqi regime will meet the demands of the United Nations and disarm fully and peacefully. If it does not, we are prepared to disarm Iraq by force. Either way, this danger will be removed. The safety of the American people depends on ending this direct and growing threat." You agree with that?
 
WILSON: I agree with that. Sure. The President goes on to say in that speech as he did in the State of the Union Address is we will liberate Iraq from a brutal dictator. All of which is true. But the only thing Saddam Hussein hears in this speech or the State of the Union Address is, "He's coming to kill me. He doesn't care if I have weapons of mass destruction or not. His objective is to come and overthrow my regime and to kill me." And that then does not provide any incentive whatsoever to disarm.

March 3, 2003: Joe Wilson wrote a piece for the Nation, Republic Or Empire. In it Wilson blasts the "neo-conservatives" in the Bush administration for their imperial over-reach. But he makes no mention of uranium or any other suggestion that Bush misled the country or lied about Iraq's WMD.

Then what's the point of this new American imperialism? The neoconservatives with a stranglehold on the foreign policy of the Republican Party, a party that traditionally eschewed foreign military adventures, want to go beyond expanding US global influence to force revolutionary change on the region. American pre-eminence in the Gulf is necessary but not sufficient for the hawks. Nothing short of conquest, occupation and imposition of handpicked leaders on a vanquished population will suffice. Iraq is the linchpin for this broader assault on the region. The new imperialists will not rest until governments that ape our worldview are implanted throughout the region, a breathtakingly ambitious undertaking, smacking of hubris in the extreme.

March 8, 2003: CNN’s Renay San Miguel interviewed Joe Wilson about the so-called Niger forgeries.

SAN MIGUEL: So how do you play this, then? I mean, what, do you admit it, do you just move on? Do you try to get these things verified if you do believe, indeed, that Iraq was trying to buy this material from Niger? I mean, how do you handle this? What’s the damage control on this?

WILSON: I have no idea. I’m not in the government. I would not want to be doing damage control on this. I think you probably just fess up and try to move on and say there’s sufficient other evidence to convict Saddam of being involved in the nuclear arms trade.

So up until at least March 8, 2003 Joe Wilson still contended that Saddam had WMD and that he was involved in the nuclear arms trade. Then what happened?

May 2003: Joe Wilson began to "advise" the Kerry for President campaign.

Wilson ... said he has long been a Kerry supporter and has contributed $2,000 to the campaign this year. He said he has been advising Kerry on foreign policy for about five months and will campaign for Kerry, including a trip to New Hampshire... -- David Tirrell-Wysocki, "Former Ambassador Wilson Endorses Kerry In Presidential Race,'' The Associated Press, 10/23/03

Five months prior to October 2, 2003 would be May 2, 2003. What happened on that date?

May 2, 2003: Joe Wilson and Valerie attended a conference sponsored by the Senate Democratic Policy Committee, at which Wilson spoke about Iraq. One of the other panelists was the New York Times journalist Nicholas Kristof

Here, unlike his remarks to CNN on March 8, 2003, Wilson claimed State Department officials should have known better than to have been duped by the forged documents that allegedly had proved a deal for uranium had been in the works between Iraq and Niger.

May 3, 2003: Over breakfast the next morning with Kristof and his wife Valerie Plame, Wilson told Kristof about his trip to Niger...

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1 posted on 03/17/2007 3:37:59 AM PDT by Sam Hill
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2 posted on 03/17/2007 3:38:56 AM PDT by Sam Hill
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3 posted on 03/17/2007 3:44:00 AM PDT by philman_36
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Thanks for posting. BTTT!


4 posted on 03/17/2007 3:49:35 AM PDT by PGalt
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Awesome resource.

Thanks for the research.

Bookmarked.

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5 posted on 03/17/2007 3:50:52 AM PDT by andyandval
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To: Sam Hill; ravingnutter; Fedora; Howlin
Adding to the chronology:

JANUARY 2003 late or early FEBRUARY : (WHITE HOUSE SITUATION ROOM - PREPARING THE ROUGH DRAFTS FOR POWELL'S UN SPEECH) Vice President Cheney's office played a major role in the secret debates and pressed for the toughest critique of Saddam's regime, administration officials say. The first draft of Powell's speech was written by Cheney's staff and the National Security Council. Days before the team first gathered at the CIA, a group of officials assembled in the White House Situation Room to hear Cheney's chief of staff, Lewis "Scooter" Libby, lay out an indictment of the Iraqi regime--"a Chinese menu" of charges, one participant recalls, that Powell might use in his U.N. speech. Not everyone in the administration was impressed, however. "It was over the top and ran the gamut from al Qaeda to human rights to weapons of mass destruction," says a senior official. [* Who's this? ] "They were unsubstantiated assertions, in my view." Powell, apparently, agreed. So one week before he was to address the U.N. Security Council, he created a team, which set up shop at the CIA, and directed it to provide him with an intelligence report based on more solid information. "Powell was acutely aware of the need to be completely accurate," says the senior official, "and that our national reputation was on the line." ----- "Truth and consequences : New questions about U.S. intelligence regarding Iraq's weapons of mass terror ," By Bruce B. Auster, Mark Mazzetti and Edward T. Pound, USNEWS ^

[* My note: So, did Powell choose Valerie to be on this team he created which set up shop at the CIA? And is this one of the articles derived from the Capitol Hill Blue's bogus source "T J Wilkerson?]

6 posted on 03/17/2007 3:55:19 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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2003 after SOTU speech : (CIA FINALLY GETS NIGER DOCS--- EVEN THOUGH THE CIA HAD HAD THEM SINCE LAST FALL) The State Department got the forged documents last fall [2002], but intelligence officials say the CIA didn't receive them - and thus couldn't analyze them - until after Bush's speech [on Jan 28, 2003]. The reason for the delay in getting them to the CIA remains unclear. - "CIA UNVEILS MORE NUKE-PLAN PROOF," by DEBORAH ORIN, New York Post, 7/19/03

(* My note: Why the delay in sending them to the CIA?)

2003 early : (MELANIE SLOAN LEAVES JOB AS ASSISTANT US ATTORNEY IN DC -- See CREW, DELAY, CHENEY, 2006FOLEYGATE) Ms. Sloan served as an Assistant United States Attorney in the District of Columbia, where, from 1998- early 2003, she successfully tried cases before dozens of judges and juries. 11 posted on 01/28/2004 10:54:52 AM PST by jimbo123

[* Did she resign or get fired?]

FEBRUARY 2003 : (SPECIAL INTEREST NONPROFIT GROUP 'CREW' aka CITIZENS FOR RESPONSIBILITY AND ETHICS BECOMES ACTIVE - IT IS FILLED WITH FORMER CLINTON ADMINISTRATION PEOPLE, INCLUDING MELANIE SLOAN, FORMER ASSISTANT US ATTORNEY IN DC -- See 2006FOLEYGATE) ... CREW aims to counterbalance the conservative legal watchdog groups that made such a strong impact over the past decade. These groups focused their attention on their left-wing adversaries, leaving the right relatively free from scrutiny. CREW focuses equal attention on misconduct by all, including the right. - CREW website *
(* Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, a non-profit legal watchdog group, ....Melanie Sloan serves as CREW's Executive Director. - CREW website)

FEBRUARY 2003 : (C.R.E.W. GOES ACTIVE - See JOE WILSON, MELANIE SLOAN, DICK CHENEY, TOM DELAY, 2006FOLEYGATE) CREW has been active only since February [2003], so its profile is still relatively low. Yet Republicans detect a strong Democratic orientation. Sloan, most recently an assistant U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia, is a former aide to Sen. Joseph Biden, D-Del.; then-Rep. (now Sen.) Charles Schumer, D- N.Y.; and Rep. John Conyers, D-Mich. In addition, CREW's three board members are Mark Penn, President Clinton's former pollster; Daniel Berger, a trial lawyer from Philadelphia and a Clinton fundraiser; and Louis Mayberg, the president of a mutual fund company. ---- http://www.citizensforethics.org/news/20030719_natljrnl.php
10 posted on 01/28/2004 10:52:10 AM PST by jimbo123 | To 1

[This Melanie Sloan would later be named as one of Joe and Valerie Wilson's lawyers]


7 posted on 03/17/2007 4:04:16 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: Sam Hill
February 6, 2003: Joe Wilson wrote an editorial for the Los Angeles Times, A 'Big Cat' With Nothing to Lose, in which he claimed we should not attack Saddam Hussein because he will use his weapons of mass destruction on our troops and give them to terrorists.

JANUARY 2003 : (WAS WILSON JULY 6, 2003 NY TIMES OP-ED ON NIGER & URANIUM SUPPOSED TO BE RELEASED MUCH EARLIER, IN EARLY JAN 2003 OR IS THIS JUST A SLIP OF THE TONGUE BY RAY MCGOVERN? --see VIPS)
RAY MCGOVERN : "Now why did the White House do that? Well, the conventional wisdom is they really hated Joe Wilson. Why did they hate Joe Wilson? Well, because in reporting in The New York Times in his famous op-ed in early January of 2003, he reported that there was no legitimate report about Iraq seeking uranium in Niger for lots of reasons" -------- The BRAD SHOW On the Air! TRANSCRIPT: Ray McGovern Interview 6/11/05, http://bradblog.com/BradShow/Transcripts/RayMcGovern_061105.htm

8 posted on 03/17/2007 4:11:42 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: piasa

I suspect that was a slip of the tongue or a misprint.

Indeed, before the war, both McGovern and Wilson had no doubts in their minds that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction:

Rumsfeld Heckler Believed Saddam Had WMDs | Sweetness & Light
http://www.sweetness-light.com/archive/rumsfeld-heckler-believed-saddam-had-wmds


9 posted on 03/17/2007 4:17:00 AM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: piasa

FEBRUARY 14, 2003 : (SOUTH AFRICA WILL SEND ITS EXPERTS TO IRAQ; IRAQ ACCEPTS) South Africa will send experts in dismantling weapons of mass destruction to Iraq as part of Pretoria's bid to avert war, President Thabo Mbeki said in his state of the nation address today. The intervention follows a visit to Baghdad by Aziz Pahad, the Deputy Foreign Affairs Minister, and comes ahead of today's crucial report-back by United Nations weapons inspectors to the Security Council in New York. Addressing a special joint sitting of Parliament, Mbeki said it was hoped the UN report-back "will not serve as a signal to some that the time has come to unleash the fury of war".
"As we speak, a number of our citizens are preparing to travel to Iraq. These are the experts who led our country's programme to destroy our nuclear, chemical and biological weapons of mass destruction, as well as the missiles for the delivery of these weapons in conditions of combat." The work they had done had resulted in South Africa becoming an international example of best practice in disarmament, he said. South Africa voluntarily disarmed its weapons of mass destruction in the 1990s. Pretoria had proposed to Iraq and to Kofi Annan, the UN Secretary-General that these experts share South Africa's experience with Baghdad, Mbeki said.
"I am pleased to inform the Honourable Members that Iraq has accepted our offer, which we have already discussed with the leadership of the weapons inspectors. "We trust that this intervention will help to ensure the necessary proper co-operation between the United Nations' inspectors and Iraq, so that the issue of weapons of mass destruction is addressed satisfactorily, without resort to war."
Mbeki thanked the Iraqi government for its positive response, as well as its recent decisions to allow U2 and other aerial surveillance flights, to encourage its citizens to co-operate with inspectors without the presence of officials, and to adopt legislation prohibiting the production of weapons of mass destruction. - "SA to send its nuclear experts to Iraq: Mbeki," http://www.sabcnews.com/politics/government/0,1009,52970,00.html., February 14, 2003, 11:15

FEBRUARY 13, 2003 : (WILSON PUBLISHES "REPUBLIC OR EMPIRE?" IN THE MARCH 3, 2003 ISSUE OF "THE NATION"- IT WAS POSTED TO THE WEB EARLIER - See DAVID CORN) .... I would add this anti-war column written by one Joseph Wilson in The Nation: Republic or Empire? , Issue date of The Nation is March 3, but note, web posted on February 13, 2003.
This dovetails with your post-SOTU/pre-NY Times no mention of any concern regarding the representations made by President Bush in his speech in reference to uranium and Africa. Also, I'm sure you see that Wilson writing in The Nation means it is no surprise that it is David Corn that starts the drumbeat about the "outing" of Plame.------114 posted on 10/02/2003 2:34 PM PDT by cyncooper

FEBRUARY 13, 2003? is this the Feb 13 article?: (PREWAR : WILSON WRITES IN AN ARTICLE IN 'THE NATION' BASHES PRESIDENT BUSH) Joseph C. Wilson IV, the man accusing the White House of a vendetta against him and his wife, is an ex-diplomat turned Democratic partisan. President Bush, he wrote in an article in the far-left Nation magazine that was published before the Iraq war began, is not interested in democracy in the Middle East but "this new American imperialism."
"The new imperialists will not rest until governments that ape our world view are implanted throughout the region, a breathtakingly ambitious undertaking, smacking of hubris in the extreme." - "Wilson, wife have tight ties to Democrats. " By Rowan Scarborough, THE WASHINGTON TIMES, 2 Oct 03


FEBRUARY 2003 : (FATHER JEAN-MARIE BENJAMIN HELPS ORGANIZE THE VISIT OF IRAQI DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER TARIQ AZIZ TO THE VATICAN FOR TALKS WITH POPE JOHN PAUL II & SENIOR VATICAN OFFFICIALS) Meanwhile, the Iraqi Foreign Minister Tareq Aziz, a Catholic, was in Rome to meet with the Pope, and he went to Assisi, where he prayed at the tomb of St Francis, and left a message in the visitors’ book in the form of a prayer for peace. His visit to Italy was organised by Father Jean-Marie Benjamin who, as well as being a songwriter, has had a long involvement with the Iraqi people. Over the past ten years he’s been a frequent visitor to Baghdad, in fact he was among the first to break the UN embargo by smuggling medicine into the country. And he’s written several books on the impact of the UN sanctions. - "A priest for peace," Wednesday 19/2/2003 , The Religion Report, Radio National, http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/8.30/relrpt/stories/s787908.htm.

FEBRUARY 19, 2003 : (INTERVIEW OF FATHER JEAN-MARIE BENJAMIN INCLUDES BENJAMIN'S PROTEST SONG "MR. PRESIDENT") Well that protest song, “Mr President”, is getting lots of airplay on Italian radio at the moment. It was written by a very busy French priest living in Italy, Father Jean-Marie Benjamin. And it includes lines like “Hey Mr President, we’ve understood it all, that we’re all slaves of Wall Street”.

(* My note: The irony is that Father Benjamin's name turns up later as a recipient of Itaqi oil voucher bribes. )

FEBRUARY 22, 2003 Saturday : (VATICAN :) On Saturday, Feb. 22, British Prime Minister Tony Blair will arrive for a private tet-a-tet with John Paul II.  --- "And tonight’s guest is … Vatican plays host to an uneasy world," Vatican Correspondent, John Allen, http://www.nationalcatholicreporter.org/word/word0221.htm as retrieved on Jun 28, 2004

FEBRUARY 22, 2003 : (NIGER DELTA : REPORT : HAZARDOUS RADIOACTIVE MATERIALS MISSING IN NIGER DELTA) - "Hazardous Radioactive Matterials Missing in Niger Delta," AllAfrica.com, Feb 22, 2003

FEBRUARY 22, 2003 : (RICHARD PERLE INTERVIEW; PERLE SLAMS THE FRENCH) A leading adviser to President Bush last night [February 22, 2003] launched a savage attack on President Chirac's diplomatic campaign to block war with Iraq, saying that it was merely the product of French commercial interests masquerading as a moral case for peace. In an exclusive interview with The Observer, Richard Perle, chairman of the Pentagon's Defence Policy Board and a central figure in the circle of hawks around Bush, went well beyond US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld's recent criticism of 'old Europe', warning that war without the further approval of the UN Security Council was now imminent. 'I'm rather pessimistic that we will get French support for a second resolution authorising war,' Perle said. 'I think they will exercise their veto, and in other ways obstruct unified action by the Security Council: they're lobbying furiously now.'
Perle agreed that support for war in Britain and America would rise if there were a second resolution, and that the UN was 'a symbol of international legitimacy'. But in words that will serve only to deepen the transatlantic rift over Iraq, he added: 'These five countries, the permanent members of the Security Council, are not a judicial body. They're not expected to make moral or legal judgments, but to advance the respective interests of their countries. 'So if the French ambassador gets up and expresses the position of the government of France, what you are hearing is the moral authority of Jacques Chirac, whatever that may mean. 'What you're hearing is what the French President perceives to be in the interests of France. And the French President has found his own way of dealing with Saddam Hussein. It would be counter to French interests to destroy that cosy relationship, and replace it with a hostile one. 'So how much legitimacy attaches to a French veto? At some point, people are going to have to start asking themselves that question.'
In Perle's view, the French position against regime change in Iraq is fatally undermined by its multi-billion-dollar oil interests negotiated since the last Gulf war: 'There's certainly a large French commercial interest in Iraq, and there are contracts that a new government in Iraq may not choose to uphold, partly because they're so unfavourable to the people of Iraq. Saddam has been prepared to do deals to keep himself in power at the expense of the people. 'My understanding of the largest of these deals, which is the French Total-Fina-Elf contract to develop certain oil properties in Iraq, is that it is both very large and very unfavourable to the Iraqis.' Perle added that he found the claim that America wished to topple Saddam for the sake of its own oil interests bizarre.
'The US interest is to buy oil cheaply on the world market. And the best way to increase the supply of Iraqi oil, and so cut prices, would have been to abandon sanctions in 1991 and urge the expansion of Iraqi exploration and development. 'When you consider that there is now a prospect that the oilfields may be destroyed by Saddam, if what we really wanted was more oil, not only should we not be supporting Saddam's removal, we should be working with him.'
Perle denied claims widely reported on both sides of the Atlantic that the Bush administration intends to rule Iraq directly through a military governor for an extended period, and that it envisages no role for the Iraqi opposition. He was scathing about the 'conventional wisdom' among the foreign policy and intelligence establishment, which holds that the Iraqi opposition groups are hopelessly divided and the country far too fractious for meaningful democracy. 'This is a trivial observation and a misleading one, both by CIA officials and MI6,' Perle said. 'They're simply wrong about this. They don't understand the opposition. They say they're divided. Are they more divided than the Labour Party? I rather doubt it. Are they more divided than the Tories? I certainly doubt that.'
His own long-term dealings with Ahmad Chalabi, leader of the Iraqi National Congress, and key figures in the main Kurdish groups, had convinced him and other leading US policymakers that 'Iraq is a very good candidate for democratic reform'.
'It won't be Westminster overnight, but the great democracies of the world didn't achieve the full, rich structure of democratic governance overnight. The Iraqis have a decent chance of succeeding under the leadership that has developed in the diaspora caused by Saddam's seizure of power.'
Reports claiming that a US military governor would keep most of Saddam's Baath Party officials in place and run the country on existing administrative structures were inaccurate and absurd, Perle said. 'The idea that the US would simply issue orders to the same mob that served under Saddam is ridiculous. This is not simply about switching one mafia family for another. American policy after Saddam's removal will be to assist the Iraqis to move as quickly as physically and practically possible into positions of power.'
As Assistant Defence Secretary under President Ronald Reagan, Perle was one of the key architects of the 1980s aggressive policy towards the Soviet Union, which Reagan dubbed an 'evil empire' and did much to undermine. He said he found it dismaying that many in Europe now found it 'politically incorrect' to describe regimes such as Iraq and North Korea as evil now:
'What we discovered from the victims of the Soviet empire, once they were free to speak, was that they agreed with us: evil was exactly the word they chose. I suspect that's the word that would be chosen by most of those forced to live in North Korea under Kim Jong Il, under the Iranian mullahs and Saddam Hussein.'


Top Bush aide savages 'selfish' Chirac ; White House adviser Richard Perle tells David Rose that France's 'cosy relationship' with Saddam means it will veto a second UN resolution, " by David Rose, The Observer (U.K.), 02/23/03

FEBRUARY 24, 2003 : (MEDIA BIAS, NEWSWEEK WRONG ON CLAIM THAT IRAQI LEADER'S SON IN LAW KAMEL TOLD THE CIA IRAQ HAD DESTROYED ALL OF ITS CHEMICAL AND BIOLOGICAL WEAPONS) The CIA on Monday denied a Newsweek magazine report that Saddam Hussein's son-in-law told the U.S. intelligence agency in 1995 that Iraq after the Gulf War destroyed all its chemical and biological weapons and missiles to deliver them. "It is incorrect, bogus, wrong, untrue," CIA spokesman Bill Harlow said of the Newsweek report's allegations that Hussein Kamel told the CIA that Iraqi President Saddam Hussein had destroyed all of his weapons of mass destruction. Newsweek said Kamel, who headed Iraq's nuclear, chemical, biological and missile programs for 10 years, told CIA and British intelligence officers and U.N. inspectors in the summer of 1995 that Iraq had destroyed all its chemical and biological weapons stockpiles after the 1991 Gulf War. "We've checked back and he didn't say this," a British government source told Reuters. "He said just the opposite, that the WMD program was alive and kicking." Harlow of the CIA said: "Newsweek failed to ask us this question." Newsweek said Kamel had hoped his revelations would trigger Saddam's overthrow, but when he realized the United States would not support his dream of becoming Iraq's ruler, he chose to return to Iraq where he was promptly killed. The issue of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction is extremely sensitive at the moment because the United States is building troops in the Gulf poised to invade Iraq on the premise that Saddam has not been forthcoming about his alleged biological, chemical and nuclear weapons programs. ((Reporting by Tabassum Zakaria - "U.S., U.K. deny Newsweek defector report," by Tabassum Zakaria, Reuters, 2/24/03

FEBRUARY 24 +/- , 2003 : (SOUTH AFRICAN "DISARMAMENT EXPERTS" ARRIVE IN IRAQ) A group of South African disarmament experts has arrived in Baghdad to help Iraq destroy any weapons of mass destruction it may have. The team of seven includes nuclear and chemical-biological weapons specialists who helped destroy South African weapons during the 1990s. Both President Thabo Mbeki and his predecessor Nelson Mandela have criticised United States-led plans to attack Iraq. Correspondents say that South Africa is the only country to voluntarily dismantle its programme of weapons of mass destruction. The United Nations chief weapons inspector, Hans Blix, was involved in South Africa's disarmament. He has praised it as a model of co-operation, and has urged Iraq to adopt it. Iraq's General Hosam Mohamad Amin, head of the National Monitoring Directorate which liaises with the UN inspectors, said he would start his meetings with the South African experts on Monday. "We will exchange technical viewpoints... and they will share with us their expertise in their declarations about their programmes of weapons of mass destruction," he said.
The South Africans are led by Deputy Foreign Minister Aziz Pahad. South Africa's nuclear, chemical and biological arsenal was established during the apartheid regime. South Africa's nuclear programme began in the 1970s as a deterrent against neighbouring states opposed to apartheid and against the Cold War instability that was fuelling the war in nearby Angola. Mr Mbeki announced that the team would leave for Iraq in his state of the nation address earlier this month. "Hopefully, what they will do, freely to share their invaluable knowledge and experience, to facilitate the work both of the UN weapons inspectors and the government of Iraq, will bring us back from the brink of war, while helping to ensure that Iraq is truly free of weapons of mass destruction," he said. Mr Mandela's former wife, Winnie Madikizela-Mandela has offered to go to Iraq as a human shield. - "SA experts start work in Iraq," BBC News, Monday, February 24, 2003

FEBRUARY 25, 2003 : (NIGERIA : REPORTS OF MISSING RADIOACTIVE MATERIAL) "We have ... informed the International Atomic Energy Agency in case somebody stole it and wants to take it outside Nigeria," Shams Elegba, head of Nigeria's nuclear regulatory body, told The Associated Press on Tuesday. Elegba gave no further details of the missing material or the circumstances behind its loss. But he said his agency was working hard to recover it, and had asked the global energy agency for assistance. Nigeria alerted the public in a broadcast statement last week that an unidentified oil company had reported the loss of the radioactive material used in its operations in the southern Niger Delta oil region. - "Nigeria reports unexplained loss of nuclear material," AP via The Jerusalem Post, Feb. 25, 2003

FEBRUARY 27, 2003 : (US DIPLOMAT JOHN BRADY KIESLING RESIGNS- GOOD RIDDANCE?) - "U.S. Diplomat's Letter of Resignation (Over Iraq) ," John Brady Kiesling, NY Times, 02-27-03

FEBRUARY 28, 2003 : (WASHINGTON DC : AT LEAST 4 CONGRESSMEN RECEIVE SUSPICIOUS MAIL POSTMARKED IN SEATTLE AND CONTAINING WHITE POWDER - CONGRESSMEN ARE REPUBLICANS) At least four U.S. Senate and House of Representatives offices received envelopes yesterday postmarked from Seattle that contained suspicious white powder, U.S. Capitol police said. The powder was tested and police determined it was not anthrax, said Kimberly Ballinger, Capitol Police spokeswoman.
All postage to the Capitol is taken to an outside location by the Postal Service and irradiated. Even if the white powder had contained Anthrax, it would have been harmless by the time the letters were opened, said Ballinger. The letters had a Seattle postmark, but no return address, Ballinger said. A congressional source said the addresses were typed.
"It happens every day here," she said. "We don't consider it an issue unless it (the tests) turn out positive."
The letters were addressed to Rep. Tom DeLay, R-Texas; the House majority leader; Sen. Norm Coleman, R-Minn.; Sen. Lamar Alexander, R-Tenn., and Sen. Saxby Chambliss, R-Ga.
A ranking homeland-security official said the FBI would investigate the letters, but it was too early to tell what the four elected officials had in common that would make someone send them, and not others, the letters. -- "Gunfire kills 2 at U.S. consulate, Terrorism notebook," The Seattle Times, March 1, 2003, Saturday Fourth Edition

FEBRUARY 28, 2003 : (UN : 12TH QUARTERLY REPORT OF UNMOVIC TO THE UN NOTES THAT IRAQ'S REPORT IS INADEQUATE) In assessing the degree of Iraq's cooperation with the inspection process, the report [ the twelfth quarterly report of the Executive Chairman of the United Nations Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission (UNMOVIC) in accordance with paragraph 12 of Security Council resolution 1284 (1999), covering UNMOVIC's activities from 1 December 2002 to 28 February 2003.] makes a distinction between cooperation on "process" and cooperation on "substance" In general, Iraq has been helpful on "process" and has, from the outset, satisfied the demand for prompt access to any site. Regarding cooperation on "substance"; the report notes that the declaration of 7 December has not been found to provide new evidence or data that may help to resolve outstanding disarmament issues. - "Statements to the UN Security Council by two Inspectors and Members of the SC, 7 Mar 2003 ," UN Press Release SC/7682, 07/03/2003, http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/859554/posts (* My note : a long overdue decree that conveniently leaves the government exempt)

FEBRUARY 28, 2003 : (NIGERIA : IAEA REPORTS MISSING RADIOACTIVE MATERIAL ------ DIRTY BOMB PLOT?) The International Atomic Energy Agency has declared a "nuclear emergency" over the radioactive material reported missing from Nigeria this week. The agency says that they are viewing it as a "stretegic theft," which is to say that the material was taken with nefarious purposes in mind. Baer reports that this very likely means dirty bombs.- "IAEA declares "nuclear emergency" in Nigeria," (Bret Baer), Fox News Channel, 02/28/03- Posted on 02/28/2003 12:07 PM PST by dep

FEBRUARY 28, 2003 : (BILL MOYERS INTERVIEWS JOSEPH WILSON : WILSON MAKES NO MENTION OF THE IRAQ-AFRICA COMMENT IN BUSH'S SPEECH) Just one month to the day after the SOUA, on Feb. 28, Bill Moyers conducts a lengthy interview of Joseph Wilson for PBS. (Click for full transcript.) This is a golden opportunity (and contemporaneous to the SOUA), yet at no time does Wilson—who claims to have been immediately concerned about the Iraq-Africa reference in the SOUA—raise his concerns with Moyers. In fact, there is exactly one reference to the SOUA and then only in passing as Wilson and Moyers speculate as to what might be Hussein's reaction to the threats of war. - "Set up? Anatomy of the contrived Wilson "scandal", " FreeRepublic thread by Wolfstar, Multiple Sources & links in article , 10/2/03

FEBRUARY 28, 2003 : (BILL MOYERS INTERVIEW OF WILSON)
Please read what Joseph Wilson was saying to Bill Moyers in February 2003. Again, after the SOTU speech, before the war. Wilson agrees there are WMD in this interview, as he does in his column he writes in "The Nation". His only disagreement in February 2003 is going to war when he is urging "containment".
In Depth — Transcript, February 28, 2003, Bill Moyers talks with Joseph C. Wilson, IV
EXCERPT:
MOYERS: President Bush's recent speech to the American Enterprise Institute, he said, let me quote it to you. "The danger posed by Saddam Hussein and his weapons cannot be ignored or wished away." You agree with that?
WILSON: I agree with that. Sure. I...
MOYERS: "The danger must be confronted." You agree with that? "We would hope that the Iraqi regime will meet the demands of the United Nations and disarm fully and peacefully. If it does not, we are prepared to disarm Iraq by force. Either way, this danger will be removed. The safety of the American people depends on ending this direct and growing threat." You agree with that?
WILSON: I agree with that. Sure. The President goes on to say in that speech as he did in the State of the Union Address is we will liberate Iraq from a brutal dictator. All of which is true.

FEBRUARY 2003 : (KELLY MEETS WITH THE BBC'S GILLIGAN AGAIN -- See KELLY LEAK, PORTON DOWN, UNSCOM)
Excerpt:
Q32 Andrew Mackinlay: Okay. You met Gilligan, I think, for the first time about two and a half years ago?
Dr Kelly: Not to my recollection. The first time that I remember meeting him was at a meeting in September of last year.
Q33 Andrew Mackinlay: September 2002?
Dr Kelly: Correct.
Q34 Andrew Mackinlay: How many times have you seen him since?
Dr Kelly: Twice.
Q35 Andrew Mackinlay: On what occasions?
Dr Kelly: A day in February, a date I cannot remember, I am having difficulty locating it, and the now infamous May 22 [2002] meeting.
Q36 Andrew Mackinlay: Of this year? [2002]
Dr Kelly: Of this year.
END EXCERPT - Kelly Hearing


10 posted on 03/17/2007 4:22:40 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: Sam Hill

bookmark


11 posted on 03/17/2007 4:24:46 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: Sam Hill
Most likely it is a slip of the tongue. Interestingly, about the time of Wilson's March 3 , 2003 article Wilson's Australian equivalent Andrew Wilkie pops out of the woodwork to attack Howard:

MARCH 2003 : (AUSTRALIA : ANDREW WILKIE RESIGNS FROM THE OFFICE OF NATIONAL ASSESSMENTS) [Andrew] Wilkie resigned from Australia's elite Office of National Assessments (ONA) in March in protest against the government's alleged misuse of information provided by the agency. The ONA is an elite agency which evaluates intelligence from all Australian and allied agencies and passes on that advice to Prime Minister John Howard's office. The Howard government has been a staunch supporter of the Bush administration position on Iraq and contributed troops and military hardware to the U.S.-led "coalition of the willing". - "Australia sexed-up Iraq dossier, former spy claims... WMD: Australia accused of hype," Drudge/CNN , Friday, August 22, 2003

12 posted on 03/17/2007 4:31:06 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: piasa

Other things going on:

MARCH 2003 first week : (CUBA : CASTRO TELLS IRAQ TO DESTROY ITS WMD & COMMENTS ON IRAN ) President Fidel Castro has urged Baghdad to destroy "the last cubic centimetre of chemical or biological weapons" to remove any pretext Washington might have to attack it. At the close of the new Cuban parliamentary legislature, in which Castro's re-election as head of the government and the state came as no surprise, the Cuban leader praised Iraq's decision to destroy its Al-Samoud 2 missiles. "The American Government will no longer have the least legal or moral pretext to attack Iraq," Castro said. He slammed Washington for closing its eyes to atomic weapons held by Israel having provided the means for their transportation. "Only the complete truth ... would give the Iraqi people enough moral strength and international support to defend their homeland and integrity right up to the last drop of blood," he said. Castro acknowledged that Iraq had "committed two grave and unjustifiable actions" in invading Iran and occupying Kuwait, but had also had to endure "very hard action" itself. Iraq "is not in a position, militarily speaking, to constitute the least risk to US security or of their allies in the region", Castro said.- "Castro tells Iraq: destroy weapons," Agence France-Presse , March 7, 2003

MARCH 2003 : ('THE NATION' : WILSON WRITES 'REPUBLIC OR EMPIRE' FOR THE NATION AT THE INVITATION OF DAVID CORN) Wilson's antiwar stance won him new friends. Among them was David Corn, the Nation's Washington correspondent. Wilson met Corn in an unlikely lefty hangout: the greenroom of the Fox News Channel's Washington studios. In March 2003, Wilson, at Corn's invitation, penned an article for the Nation entitled "Republic or Empire?" It was a rhetorical question. Wilson wrote that "the underlying objective of this war is the imposition of a Pax Americana on the region and the installation of vassal regimes that will control restive populations." President Bush's talk about bringing democracy to the Middle East? Hogwash. "The new imperialists will not rest until governments that ape our worldview are implanted throughout the region." The Nation article was a big success. It "led to a further series of appearances," Wilson writes, on "more substantive news programs," like--and he's serious--"NOW with Bill Moyers." -- "The Rise and Decline of Joe Wilson," by Matthew Continetti, Weekly Standard, 05/17/2004

MARCH 2, 2003 : ('THE NATION' : WILSON OP-ED NO MENTION OF URANIUM/NIGER/BUSH SOTU) Wilson has Op-ed in the Nation here----3/3,2003 NOTHING ABOUT URANIUM/NIGER/SOTU....
70 posted on 07/17/2003 10:30 AM PDT by hobbes1

MARCH 2003 : () The man [Joe Wilson] who helped set off a media firestorm over President Bush's State of the Union reference to Iraq seeking uranium in Niger is actually a confirmed Bush-hater who opposed the war in Iraq and complained in March [2003] that Bush had led America into a period of "historical madness." ---- "Report: CIA Source on Niger Nuke Flap is a Bush-Hater (Wilson)," Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff , NewsMax.com, 7/13/03, http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/945331/posts

MARCH 2003 : (THIS IS THE TIME IRAQ MOVED 'UNSPECIFIED MATERIALS' TO SYRIA,' INCLUDING SOME COMPONENTS OF IRAQ'S WMD PROGRAMS, ACCORDING TO LATER REPORT BY DR. DAVID KAY) - "Kay says some Iraq weapons in Syria: report,"AFP, Sunday, January 25, 2004. 1:00pm (AEDT) via http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/s1031270.htm

MARCH 4, 2003 : (IAEA INVESTIGATION OF ALLEGATIONS THAT IRAQ TRIED TO OBTAIN URANIUM IN AFRICA FOCUSES ON NIGER) INTRO: "The International Atomic Energy Agency has confirmed it is actively investigating allegations that Iraq, in recent years, attempted to import uranium from Niger. More from V-O-A Correspondent Alex Belida." TEXT: "An I-A-E-A spokesman describes the investigation as ongoing and confirms the probe of Iraq's efforts to obtain uranium in Africa does focus on Niger. But the spokesman will not provide any details and will not tell V-O-A, for example, whether the government of Niger is cooperating or whether the U-N nuclear agency has sent any investigators to the African country. However Iraq's Foreign Ministry has said I-A-E-A officials in Baghdad have questioned Iraqi officials about the Niger connection. - VOA News Report, 3/4/03 , byline pentagon, via http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/news/2003/03/mil-030304-2a189293.htm.

MARCH 5, 2003 : (AXIS OF WEASELS RELEASE JOINT DECLARATION TO RESIST US & UK AT UN) The foreign ministers of France, Russia and Germany release a joint declaration stating that they will 'not allow' a resolution authorising military action to pass the UN security council. The hardening stance from the anti-war bloc increases the pressure on the US and Britain to compromise on their draft UN resolution.France, Russia and Germany harden stance - http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/page/0,12438,793802,00.html


13 posted on 03/17/2007 4:37:59 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: Sam Hill

Another bookmark. Thanks.


14 posted on 03/17/2007 4:43:48 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: piasa

By the way -- when Castro said that to iraq he was in Vancouver.


15 posted on 03/17/2007 4:44:58 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: Sam Hill

Bump


16 posted on 03/17/2007 4:45:25 AM PDT by sport
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To: Sam Hill

" May 2, 2003: Joe Wilson and Valerie attended a conference sponsored by the Senate Democratic Policy Committee, at which Wilson spoke about Iraq. "

Democrats, start calling these witnesses.


17 posted on 03/17/2007 4:49:57 AM PDT by Son House ( The Presidents enemies, are my enemies.)
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To: piasa

Your research is amazing.


18 posted on 03/17/2007 4:50:21 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Son House

" May 2, 2003: Joe Wilson and Valerie attended a conference sponsored by the Senate Democratic Policy Committee, at which Wilson spoke about Iraq. "

Democrats, start calling these witnesses.

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The Senate Democratic Policy Committee has a web site:

Senate Democratic Policy Committee Web Site
http://democrats.senate.gov/dpc/

Coincidentally, every one of their conferences are listed -- except this one.


19 posted on 03/17/2007 4:53:39 AM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: Sam Hill

Must be just another filing error,
Democrats will get the meeting posted now that they're caught,
like Reid and his Realestate,
Clinton and her privately run charity,
and that one with money in his freezer,
can't remember his name, but they seem to think it
normal because he keeps serving dishonorably.


20 posted on 03/17/2007 5:04:10 AM PDT by Son House ( The Presidents enemies, are my enemies.)
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To: piasa
March 8, 2003: CNN’s Renay San Miguel interviewed Joe Wilson about the so-called Niger forgeries...

MARCH 10, 2003 : (REPORT : SOUTH AFRICAN MANDELA TURNS DOWN POSSIBLE IRAQI PEACE MISSION) ----- Mandela Says No to Possible Iraq Peace Mission Reuters ^ | March 10 2003http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/861140/posts

MARCH 14, 2003 : (ROCKEFELLER FORMALLY ASKS MUELLER TO INVESTIGATE BURBA/NIGERDOCS) Thanks for the pings. BTW we can actually document Rockefeller's involvement in that even earlier, from at least March 14, 2003:
On March 14th [2003], Senator Jay Rockefeller, of West Virginia, the senior Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, formally asked Robert Mueller, the F.B.I. director, to investigate the forged documents. Rockefeller had voted for the resolution authorizing force last fall [2002]. Now he wrote to Mueller, "There is a possibility that the fabrication of these documents may be part of a larger deception campaign aimed at manipulating public opinion and foreign policy regarding Iraq." He urged the F.B.I. to ascertain the source of the documents, the skill-level of the forgery, the motives of those responsible, and "why the intelligence community did not recognize the documents were fabricated." A Rockefeller aide told me that the F.B.I. had promised to look into it.------------Seymour M. Hersh, "Who Lied to Whom? Why did the Administration endorse a forgery about Iraq’s nuclear program?", The New Yorker, March 31, 2003 50 posted on 07/30/2005 9:55:30 PM PDT by Fedora | To 32

MARCH 15, 2003 : (WASHINGTON TIMES REPORTS ON "FRENCH CONNECTION" : CHINA SOLD PROHIBITED MISSILE FUEL TO IRAQ THROUGH FRANCE AND SYRIA) Top investigative journalist Bill Gertz reported in The Washington Times yesterday that China sold prohibited missile fuel to Iraq through a secret "French Connection." The sale reportedly was made in August [2002] and according to officials in Washington was brokered through France and Syria. While France was denying the report, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz was meeting with France's ambassador to the United States for what were termed "candid" discussions about Iraq. Rumors are circulating in Washington about other meetings with the ambassadors for China and Russia.
Apparently France has been engaged in double dealing and overt deception about its secret deals with Iraq for many years. (See my reports below) Yet the French government has been pontificating about its alleged moral superiority before United Nations Security Counsel for months.----- 'Iraqi Ambassador Had Contact Terrorist & China Sold Iraq Missile Fuel via "French Connection",' by Douglas Oliver, NewsPundit.net ^ | 3/16/2003

MARCH 15?, 2003 : (RAND BEERS QUITS JOB AS A WHITE HOUSE ANTI-TERRORISM ADVISOR --- See MARK GROSSMAN, RICHARD CLARKE, KENNEDY SCHOOL) A top White House anti-terrorism advisor who quit five days before the start of the Iraq war...Rand Beers, a former special assistant to the president, ...After working at the National Security Council for 35 years, under presidents Ronald Reagan, George Bush and Bill Clinton, Beers, 60, had been the main counter-terrorism advisor from August [2002] until his resignation in March [2003]. ------- "Former security advisor says Bush failing to counter terror threat ," AFP via Yahoo, Mon Jun 16, 2003 2:36 PM ET

MARCH 2003 : (RAND BEERS QUITS) Five days before the war began in Iraq, as President Bush prepared to raise the terrorism threat level to orange, a top White House counterterrorism adviser unlocked the steel door to his office, an intelligence vault secured by an electronic keypad, a combination lock and an alarm. He sat down and turned to his inbox.
"Things were dicey," said Rand Beers, recalling the stack of classified reports about plots to shoot, bomb, burn and poison Americans. He stared at the color-coded threats for five minutes. Then he called his wife: I'm quitting.
Beers's resignation surprised Washington, but what he did next was even more astounding. Eight weeks after leaving the Bush White House, he volunteered as national security adviser for Sen. John F. Kerry (Mass.), a Democratic candidate for president, in a campaign to oust his former boss. All of which points to a question: What does this intelligence insider know?
"The administration wasn't matching its deeds to its words in the war on terrorism. They're making us less secure, not more secure," said Beers, who until now has remained largely silent about leaving his National Security Council job as special assistant to the president for combating terrorism. "As an insider, I saw the things that weren't being done. And the longer I sat and watched, the more concerned I became, until I got up and walked out."------ "Beers: Former Aide Takes Aim at War on Terror ," By Laura Blumenfeld, Washington Post Staff Writer, Monday, June 16, 2003; Page A01 , 75 posted on 07/15/2005 9:54:46 PM PDT by Howlin

MARCH 15?, 2003 to JUNE 16, 2003 sometime between these dates : (RAND BEERS JOINS THE PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN OF JOHN KERRY) After working at the National Security Council for 35 years, under presidents Ronald Reagan, George Bush and Bill Clinton, Beers, 60, had been the main counter-terrorism advisor from August [2002] until his resignation in March [2003].
He has since joined the presidential campaign of Democratic Senator John Kerry. ------- "Former security advisor says Bush failing to counter terror threat ," AFP via Yahoo, Mon Jun 16, 2003 2:36 PM ET

MARCH 15, 2003 : (ANONYMOUS SOURCE SAYS FORGED NIGERDOCS WERE LIKELY WRITTEN BY SOMEONE IN NIGER'S EMBASSY IN ROME) [CHICAGO] Forged documents that the United States used to build its case against Iraq were likely written by someone in Niger's embassy in Rome who hoped to make quick money, a source close to the United Nations investigation said. The documents, about a dozen letters on Niger's governmental letterhead, suggested that the African nation had agreed to supply Iraq with uranium, used in nuclear weapons production, the source said. Some of the letters were addressed to an Iraqi official. --------- "Forged documents that USA used to build its case against Iraq tied to Niger Embassy in Rome," by SAM ROE , KRT[CHICAGO] via centredaily.com, Sat, Mar. 15, 2003

MARCH 16 2003 : (AZORES SUMMIT : UK & US GIVE ULTIMATUM TO UN TO ENFORCE ITS OWN RESOLUTIONS) Speaking at a hastily-arranged summit in the Azores, Mr Bush and Mr Blair give the United Nations a 24-hour ultimatum to enforce its own demands for immediate Iraqi disarmament, or face an American- and British-led coalition that will go to war within days. - Iraq: the final 24 hours - http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/page/0,12438,793802,00.html.

MARCH 16, 2003 : (THE OBSERVER REPORTS CONNECTION BETWEEN IRAQI AMBASSADOR TO SPAIN AND AL QAEDA'S 911 HIJACKING CONSPIRATOR YUSUF GALAN) An alleged terrorist accused of helping the 11 September conspirators was invited to a party by the Iraqi ambassador to Spain under his al-Qaeda nom de guerre, according to documents seized by Spanish investigators.
Yusuf Galan, who was photographed being trained at a camp run by Osama bin Laden, is now in jail, awaiting trial in Madrid. The indictment against him, drawn up by investigating judge Baltasar Garzon, claims he was 'directly involved with the preparation and carrying out of the attacks ... by the suicide pilots on 11 September'. * * *
Evidence of Galan's links with Iraqi government officials came to light only recently, as investigators pored through more than 40,000 pages of documents seized in raids at the homes of Galan and seven alleged co-conspirators. * * *
George Tenet, the Director of the CIA, has made increasingly strong statements alleging such a connection.
In Congressional testimony last month, he said that Iraq had co-operated with al-Qaeda for 10 years, and that it had trained al-Qaeda members in bombmaking and the use of chemical and biological weapons. In an apparent attempt to refute the sceptics, he said this information 'comes from reliable sources' * * * ----- The Observer [UK] via 'Iraqi Ambassador Had Contact Terrorist & China Sold Iraq Missile Fuel via "French Connection",' by Douglas Oliver, NewsPundit.net ^ | 3/16/2003

MARCH 16, 2003 : (TRUTHOUT.ORG'S MARC ASH SENDS SHRILL SPAM LETTER CLAIMING BUSH & BLAIR ARE GOING TO SLAUGHTER IRAQIS ON AN "UNIMAGINABLE SCALE") One of the daily unsolicited e-mails I get is from a propaganda group that calls itself “Truthout” and which is, believe it or not, headquartered in Los Angeles, California. On March 16th, as the war was about to start, its chief propagandist, Marc Ash, wrote: ”What George W. Bush and Tony Blair are planning is the greatest act of human slaughter since Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge orchestrated the Cambodian genocide in the mid 1970s. That act killing some 1.5 to 2 million largely defenseless and quite peaceful Cambodians. ...”Civilian Iraq is utterly defenseless and totally unprepared for the carnage that is about to be visited upon them. It is murder plain and simple, murder on an unimaginable scale.” Marc Ash didn’t bother to mention the Iraqis and Iranians killed in the 1980-1988 Iran-Iraq war started by Saddam’s invasion and seizure of Iranian oil fields in 1980. According to The Federation of American Scientists (FAS) estimated casualties of the 8 year war between these two Muslim nations at "more than one and a half million war and war-related casualties." The casualties between these two Muslim nations would be the equivalent to losing 5.6 million for a population the size of the United States. - "The Iraqis Will Eventually Judge America by Its Deeds, Not Media Misinformation," By: Mary Mostert, Analyst, Banner of Liberty, (www.bannerofliberty.com) , April 4, 2003 , http://www.bannerofliberty.com/BOL-03MQC/4-4-2003.1.html.

21 posted on 03/17/2007 5:04:11 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: Sam Hill
Coincidentally, every one of their conferences are listed -- except this one.

LOL, good catch.

22 posted on 03/17/2007 5:07:14 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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MARCH 16, 2003 : (LONDON TIMES DESCRIPTION OF THE NIGER DOCS [THEY WOULD SHORTLY BE FOLLOWED BY THE WASHPO]) The only specific, earlier [than the Washington Post's March 22, 2003] mention of these details is in a March 16, 2003 London Times. I can't find an actual IAEA statement stating these details.---41 posted on 07/17/2004 7:44:47 PM PDT by Shermy

MARCH 18, 2003 : (RUSSIAN REPORT IN REPLY TO US REQUESTS FOR INFORMATION ON ALLEGED ILLICIT SALES OF PROHIBITED ITEMS TO IRAQ - see IGOR IVANOV) But Igor Ivanov, the Russian foreign minister, said: "We did not send any goods, including military ones, that violated the sanctions." He said that from October, the US had requested reports on the alleged illicit sales several times, and that Russia had made its most recent report on 18 March.- "Missiles find in chemical plant," by GETHIN CHAMBERLAIN AND PAUL GALLAGHER, The Scotsman, March 25, 2003
*To: MadIvan
Russia had made its most recent report on 18 March.
I believe their technicians were still in Iraq at that point. Oh, heck, who cares about such trivial details?
18 posted on 03/24/2003 5:47 PM PST by livius

MARCH 18, 2003 : (UN PULLS ITS STAFF OUT OF IRAQ) --- "U.S. troops sweep through Tikrit : U.S.: Mobile chem-bio labs found," CNN, Monday, April 14, 2003 Posted: 1:14 PM EDT (1714 GMT)

MARCH 18, 2003 : (BUSH GIVES HUSSEIN 48 HOUR ULTIMATUM : IN UK, MORE RESIGNATIONS, PARLIAMENT ENDORSES ATTACK) In a televised address at 0100GMT, Mr Bush gives Saddam Hussein 48 hours to leave Iraq or face invasion. During the course of the day, British government ministers John Denham and Lord Hunt resign in protest, along with four government aides. In the evening parliament holds a debate over military action in Iraq. The government's motion endorsing an attack is passed by 412 to 149, although the number of rebel Labour MPs voting for an anti-war amendment rises to 139, up from 122 three weeks ago. Bush gives Saddam and his sons 48 hours to leave Iraq - http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/page/0,12438,793802,00.html.

MARCH 19, 2003 : (WAR : US DECAPITATION STRIKE ON IRAQI LEADER HUSSEIN)

MARCH 20, 2003 : (BATTLE OF IRAQ : US INVASION OF IRAQ) - "French link to UK's Iraq intelligence," From correspondents in London, news.com.au, July 14, 2003, http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,6749154%5E1702,00.html

MARCH 20, 2003 : (US GOVERNMENT TAPS ABDULRAHMAN ALAMOUDI'S PHONE -- See ALAMOUDI CLAN) ...On March 20, 2003, pursuant to court order, the government installed a Dialed Number Recorder (DNR) and Caller ID equipment on (703) *** - ****, a residential hard-line subscribed to by Abdurahman Alamoudi, and located at --- , Falls Church, Virginia. On July 5, 2003, there was one call made from (703) *** - **** to (917) *** - ****, which is subscribed to by the Libyan Mission to the United Nations, Financial Attaché Office, New York, New York. Subsequent searches of Alamoudi’s Palm Pilot, which was seized from the premises of 3606 Forest Drive, Suite B, Falls Church, Virginia on March 20, 2002, indicated (917) *** - **** was the cell phone of Abuzaid Omar Dorda, then Libyan Ambassador to the United Nations. ...------- 14 posted on 10/01/2003 2:31:24 AM PDT by seamole

MARCH 20, 2003 : (RUSSIAN PRESIDENT PUTIN DENOUNCES US WAR IN IRAQ) On March 20, Russian President Vladimir Putin denounced the U.S.-led "aggression" against Iraq as "unwarranted" and "unjustifiable." Three days later, Pravda said that an anonymous Russian "military expert" was predicting that the United States would fabricate finding Iraqi weapons of mass destruction. Russian Foreign Minister Igor Ivanov immediately started plying the idea abroad, and it has taken hold around the world ever since. - "Russian Collusion in Iraq," By Ion Mihai Pacepa, Washington Times , August 22, 2003

MARCH 20, 2003 : (CUBAN CRACKDOWN ON DISSIDENTS ; CUBA USES OF COALITION WAR ON IRAQ AS COVER) Locals watch police drive away with Cuban dissident and independent journalist Raul Rivero, after his arrest in his neighborhood of Central Havana on Thursday, March 20, 2003. Fidel Castro's government rounded up more of its critics on Thursday, part of a mushrooming crackdown spurred by allegations of dissidents conspiring with U.S. diplomats.- from caption on AP Photo/Cristobal Herrera

MARCH 21, 2003 : (VENEZUELAN AIR FORCE PLANES ENTER COLUMBIAN AIRSPACE TO AID FARC TERRORISTS IN THEIR WAR AGAINST COLUMBIA [AND THE US]) - "Report: Venezuela aids Colombian FARC rebels," by Martin Arostegui, UPI , 9/10/2003


23 posted on 03/17/2007 5:23:03 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: Sam Hill

It's now easy to understand why the CIA is so ofent ineffective on a large scale -- they have employees like Plame and Wilson.


24 posted on 03/17/2007 5:32:42 AM PDT by R.W.Ratikal
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To: R.W.Ratikal

Well, in some ways (all bad) they have been very effective.

It's just that their goals are different from ours.


25 posted on 03/17/2007 5:34:29 AM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: piasa

MARCH 23, 2003 : (RUSSIAN NEWSPAPER PRAVDA SOURCE CLAIMS THE US WOULD FAKE THE FINDING OF IRAQI WMD - see IGOR IVANOV) Three days later [after Russian President Putin denounced US-led "aggression" against Iraq], Pravda said that an anonymous Russian "military expert" was predicting that the United States would fabricate finding Iraqi weapons of mass destruction. Russian Foreign Minister Igor Ivanov immediately started plying the idea abroad, and it has taken hold around the world ever since - "Russian Collusion in Iraq," By Ion Mihai Pacepa, Washington Times , August 22, 2003

[* My note: This is the same claim made by Ray McGovern of VIPS]

MARCH 23, 2003 Sunday : (NY TIMES ARTICLE BY JAMES RISEN CLAIMS THE BUSH ADMIN 'PRESSURED' THE CIA TO SLANT THEIR INTELLIGENCE ANALYSIS ACCORDING TO "COMPLAINTS AMONG ANALYSTS AT THE CIA" ; RISEN DOESN'T NAME A SINGLE SOURCE FOR HIS INFO, AND GOES OUT OF HIS WAY TO CLAIM THE DOCUMENTS WERE NOT FORGED BY THE CIA OR "ANY OTHER UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT AGENCY" -- See ROCKEFELLER TREASON MEMO, VIPS)

MARCH 24, 2003 : (INDIANA : ATTEMPTED HIJACKING OF GASOLINE TANKER) Sources say the incident is being reviewed by the Justice Department which recently received intelligence from Al-Qaeda members suggesting that terrorists are targeting fuel tankers and gas stations that could be used in attacks against the US.
Officials say, "Since 9-11 we're looking at particular industries and threats and the fact that it's a fuel tanker completely loaded with gas adds to the interest in this case." - "Man Attempts to Hijack Fuel Tanker in Indiana," by Chris Proffitt/Eyewitness News , WTHR , 03/25/03

MARCH 24, 2003 : (RUSSIA TRIES TO DISMISS CLAIMS IT HAD SUPPLIED IRAQ WITH ANTI-TANK GUIDED MISSILES, NIGHT-VISION GOGGLES AND JAMMING DEVICES IN VIOLATION OF UN SANCTIONS) The issue of who supplied Iraq with weapons became increasingly heated yesterday [March 24], as Russia dismissed claims from the United States that it had illicitly supplied Saddam with arms. The US claims Russian companies sent anti-tank guided missiles, night-vision goggles and jamming devices to Iraq, in violation of United Nations’ sanctions.
George Bush, the US president, raised the issue with his Russian counterpart, Vladimir Putin, in a phone call yesterday, according to the White House spokesman, Ari Fleischer.
But Igor Ivanov, the Russian foreign minister, said: "We did not send any goods, including military ones, that violated the sanctions." He said that from October, the US had requested reports on the alleged illicit sales several times, and that Russia had made its most recent report on 18 March.- "Missiles find in chemical plant," by GETHIN CHAMBERLAIN AND PAUL GALLAGHER, The Scotsman, March 25, 2003

MARCH 24?, 2003 : (IRAQ : UK SOLDIERS FIND WEAPONS CACHE, INCLUDING TWO RUSSIAN AL-HARITH ANTISHIP CRUISE MISSILES AT AN AIRPORT SOUTH OF BASRA) ... soldiers with the Black Watch discovered a cache of weapons, including two Russian al-Harith anti-ship cruise missiles, at the Az Zubayr civilian heliport south of Basra. The British defence company whose products were also discovered in the cache has denied selling any products to Iraq. Wallop Defence Systems, of Middle Wallop, Hampshire, said the "weapons", described as fuses for detonators, were probably smoke grenades stolen by Iraq 13 years ago. - "Missiles find in chemical plant," by GETHIN CHAMBERLAIN AND PAUL GALLAGHER, The Scotsman, March 25, 2003

MARCH 25?, 2003 : (REPORT : SUSPECTED SCUD MISSILES FOUND IN DIRHAMAIYAH PETRO-CHEMICAL PLANT) EXPERTS are examining suspected Scud missiles discovered by British soldiers searching a chemical plant outside Basra. A number of the grey-painted rockets, about 23ft long, were found in the Dirhamiyah petro-chemical plant close to Iraq’s second city. The discovery has raised suspicions that Saddam Hussein was planning to arm the missiles with chemical warheads. British officers say it is difficult to find an innocent explanation for storing missiles in a chemical plant. The find comes a day after soldiers with the Black Watch discovered a cache of weapons, including two Russian al-Harith anti-ship cruise missiles, at the Az Zubayr civilian heliport south of Basra. - "Missiles find in chemical plant," by GETHIN CHAMBERLAIN AND PAUL GALLAGHER, The Scotsman, March 25, 2003*
*To: Libertina: I suspect the involvement of French chemical weapons experts in this. See link to photo taken at scene:
http://www.personal.psu.edu/faculty/r/c/rcs8/pepes17.jpg
20 posted on 03/24/2003 5:49 PM PST by zook

MARCH 26, 2003 : (IRAQ : RUSSIAN CHEMICAL WARHEADS FOUND WITH LAUNCHER- CHEMICAL WEAPONS SPECIALIST CAPTURED) On March 26th, US troops south of Baghdad claimed to have found Russian chemical warheads with a launcher and a chemical weapons specialist. A reporter with the Third Infantry Division confirmed the incident.[76] [76] WorldNetDaily.com, March 26, 2003.

MARCH 26, 2003 : (IRAQ : US THIRD INFANTRY FINDS RUSSIAN CHEMICAL WARHEADS) "What I just heard from a highly placed source here is that they've discovered, they've captured chemical warheads, they're Russian, they have Russian writing all over them and they are chemical warheads." -- "Third Infantry Finds Chemical Weapons ," 3/26/03 via 22 posted on 04/27/2004 10:27:31 PM PDT by Fedora

MARCH 26, 2003 : (RUSSIAN FOREIGN MINISTER INSISTS HIS COUNTRY'S FIRMS HAVE NOT VIOLATED SANCTIONS ON IRAQ - see IGOR IVANOV) Russia's foreign minister, Igor Ivanov, was decidely testy yesterday, saying that his country's firms have not violated sanctions on Iraq. "There is no evidence confirming violations by Russian firms of existing sanctions," he stated, before aiming sharp words at the U.S. He has reason to be so defensive. Russia's involvement in the arming of Iraq goes beyond supplying radar-jamming systems and the personnel to maintain them. Moscow has supported Iraq's development of weapons of mass destruction and connived with Baghdad in hiding its role as a main supplier of the materials and know-how to weaponize anthrax, botulism and smallpox. - "The Russian strain," By Robert Goldberg, The Wall Street Journal, 27 March 2003 via the Center for Security Policy, 1920 L Street,N.W., Suite 210, Washington, DC 20036, http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/index.jsp?section=static&page=wsj327.

MARCH 27, 2003 : (BLIX IS RETIRING)

MARCH 28, 2003 : (IRAQ : CHEMICAL OR BIOLOGICAL SHELLS FOUND IN BUNKER WITH CHEMICAL WEAPONS PROTECTIONS SUITS) "- "EVIL PROOF," By BRUCE WILSON in London, The Daily Telegraph , 28mar03

Interesting that the BBC report left out the mentions of artillery rounds or warheads. The BBC insinuated that the chemical suits and gas masks were not necessarily "proof".
20 posted on 03/27/2003 5:57 PM PST by Eva

MARCH 31, 2003? : (SEYMOUR HERSH ARTICLE ON BURBA/NIGERDOCS) WHO LIED TO WHOM- (The Original Seymour Hersh Article About Uranium and Niger That Started It All!)


MARCH 31, 2003 : (SEYMOUR HERSH ARTICLE CLAIMS THAT A FORMER CLINTON ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL SAID LONDON WAS SPREADING FALSE INFO ON IRAQ - NOTE SEYMOUR WAS THE REPORTER WHO FIBBED ABOUT THE MASSIVE PARACHUTE-DROP RAID THAT KICKED THINGS OFF IN AFGHANISTAN) In a lengthy New Yorker article (Who lied to whom?) Seymour Hersh writes: "The Bush Administration's reliance on...Niger documents may...have stemmed from more than bureaucratic carelessness or political overreaching. Forged documents and false accusations have been an element in U.S. and British policy toward Iraq at least since the fall of 1997...President Bill Clinton...hinted of renewed bombing, but...the British and...Americans were losing the battle for international public opinion. A former Clinton Administration official told me that London had resorted to...spreading false information about Iraq. The British propaganda program...was known to a few senior officials in Washington. 'I knew that was going on,' the former Clinton Administration official said of the British efforts."
"The chance for American intelligence to challenge the documents came as the Administration debated whether to pass them on to ElBaradei...A former intelligence officer told me that some questions about the authenticity of the Niger documents were raised inside the government by analysts at the Department of Energy and the State Department's Bureau of Intelligence and Research. However, these warnings were not heeded."
" 'Somebody deliberately let something false get in there,' the former high-level intelligence official added. 'It could not have gotten into the system without the agency being involved. Therefore it was an internal intention. Someone set someone up.' " - "Set up? Anatomy of the contrived Wilson "scandal", " FreeRepublic thread by Wolfstar, Multiple Sources & links in article , 10/2/03


26 posted on 03/17/2007 5:40:23 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: Sam Hill

Interesting read here and at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valerie_Plame


27 posted on 03/17/2007 5:49:58 AM PDT by jws3sticks (Hillary can take a very long walk on a very short pier, anytime, and the sooner the better!)
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To: jws3sticks

"Plame met Wilson at a convention in Washington, D.C, in early 1995 or 1997, while working for Bill Clinton."

That's a new one on me.

Of course it is so vaguely written, I'm not quite sure what it means.


28 posted on 03/17/2007 5:56:21 AM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: piasa
APRIL 1, 2003 : (UN SEC GEN ANNAN SAYS HE HOPES UN INSPECTORS COULD SOMEDAY RETURN TO IRAQ) U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan said yesterday that he hoped U.N. inspectors could someday return to Iraq to resume their mission.‘I hope the time will come when they will be able to do that,” Annan said.
The United Nations is focusing now on the humanitarian situation in Iraq, Annan said. The U.N. Security Council is expected to discuss the future involvement of the United Nations in Iraq and might request that it assume a larger role, he said.
“It is not excluded that the U.N. will play an important role but that is a question that the council will have to deal with,” Annan said (U.N. release, April 1, 2003 ).http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=6631&Cr=iraq&Cr1=

APRIL? 2003 : (REPORT : JOE WILSON "DON'T BE SURPRISED" IF IRAQ USES WMD AS ITS LAST ACT OF DEFIANCE) Joseph C. Wilson: "The issue is really transfer of WMD to terrorist groups which had never occurred before in Saddam's regime but now that he is toast don't be surprised if as his last act of defiance he does precisely that." - Washington Post (Discussion), Thursday, April 3, 2003

APRIL 4, 2003 : (US TROOPS ARE REPORTEDLY SIX MILES FROM BAGHDAD)

APRIL 2003 : (LYNDON LAROUCHE ORGANIZATION PUBLISHES PAMPHLET CONTAINING AN ESSAY BY STEINBERG CLAIMING U OF CHICAGO STUDENTS OF LEO STRAUSS HAD FORMED A "CABAL" TO DRAG THE USA INTO WAR BY FAKING EVIDENCE - See ATTACK ON THE OFFICE OF SPECIAL PLANS, LEFTWINGNUTS, KWIATKOWSKI, KENNEDY) In April 2003, the LaRouche organization published a pamphlet entitled "Children of Satan." The pamphlet contained a Steinberg essay alleging that students of the late University of Chicago professor Leo Strauss had formed a secret "cabal" to drag the United States into war by falsifying evidence. ------- "Web of Conspiracies. False rumors go from fringe staff go mainstream-again and again.," by Michael Rubin, NRO, May 18, 2004, 8:36 a.m.

APRIL ?? 2003 : (SOROS HIRES TWO TEAMS TO EVALUATE W BUSH'S STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES- See MOVEON.ORG) After an April [2003?] dinner at his Manhattan apartment to discuss Mr. Podesta's project, Mr. Soros pulled aside two senior aides, Morton H. Halperin, a former Clinton aide who directs Mr. Soros's Washington-based Open Society Institute, and Michael Vachon, a personal assistant who is overseeing Mr. Soros's political projects.
To ensure an unbiased assessment, he hired two separate political teams to evaluate Mr. Bush's strengths and weaknesses, the tactics needed to beat him and how much it would cost. Heading one team was Tom Novick, a former Oregon state legislator who had recently done a report concluding that voter mobilization was a better investment than last-minute television ads. The second group was lead by Mark Steitz, a Washington-based political analyst who had done a similar assessment of President George H.W. Bush's 1992 re-election chances for some wealthy Democratic donors. Mr. Soros then set out to diversify his political investment. On Sept. 17, [2003] Wes Boyd, the California-based founder of MoveOn.org, a liberal online organization founded during the Clinton impeachment trial, arrived in New York for what he thought would be a get-acquainted session with Mr. Soros. --------Web Blog ... 127 posted on 04/08/2004 11:46:17 AM PDT by ravingnutter

APRIL 2, 2003 : (JORDAN : AUTHORITIES ARREST IRAQI AGENTS IN CONNECTION WITH A PLOT TO POISON THE WATER SUPPLY THAT SERVES US TROOPS IN EASTERN JORDAN) Meanwhile, Jordanian authorities have arrested several Iraqi agents in connection with a plot to poison a water supply that serves U.S. troops in eastern Jordan, officials said yesterday.  The men are suspected of trying to poison a water tank that serves U.S. troops at a military base in Khao, according to the New York Times.  It is still unknown how close the Iraqi agents were to succeeding before they were captured, but no one has reported sick or injured, officials said (-- "" Alan Feuer, New York Times, April 2, 2003 http://www.nytimes.com/2003/04/02/international/worldspecial/02JORD.html).

APRIL 2003 : (RUSSIA IS IRAQ'S MAIN SUPPLIER OF MATERIALS ; ALSO PROVIDES KNOW-HOW ON BIOLOGICAL WEAPONS) The Wall Street Journal’s Robert Goldberg has cited a bioterrorism expert explaining that Russia was Iraq’s main supplier of materials and technical know-how to make anthrax, smallpox and botulism. Former UN inspector Richard Spertzel reports that Russia gave Iraq some fermentation equipment to produce biological weapons, and that Russians on his UN inspection team were “paranoid” about his efforts to uncover Iraq’s smallpox production. Goldberg explained that no nation has helped Iraq rebuild WMDs more than Russia.[73][73] Newsmax.com, April 4, 2003.

APRIL 2003 : (BOLTON, SUBTLE AS EVER, WARNS SYRIA, LIBYA & IRAN ABOUT WMD) "...In the interview, Bolton said he hoped the removal of Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein from power would send a message to Libya, Syria and Iran. "We are hoping that the elimination of the dictatorial regime of Saddam Hussein and the elimination of all of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction would be important lessons to other countries in the region particularly Syria, Libya, and Iran, that the cost of their pursuit of weapons of mass destruction is potentially quite high." - U.S.: Libyan pursuit of nukes increases UPI ^ | April 6, 2003 | Eli J. Lake

APRIL 8, 2003 : (IRAQ : SENIOR IRAQI ATOMIC ENERGY COMMISSION OFFICIAL DR K I SAID IS KILLED WHEN THE CAR IN WHICH HE WAS RIDING ATTEMPTS TO RUN A COALITION ROADBLOCK-- See WMD, NUCLEAR PROGRAM, CENTRIFUGES, NUCLEAR ENRICHMENT) Starting around 2000, the senior Iraqi Atomic Energy Commission (IAEC) and high-level Ba'ath Party official Dr. Khalid Ibrahim Sa'id began several small and relatively unsophisticated research initiatives that could be applied to nuclear weapons development. These initiatives did not in-and-of themselves constitute a resumption of the nuclear weapons program, but could have been useful in developing a weapons-relevant science base for the long-term. We do not yet have information indicating whether a higher government authority directed Sa'id to initiate this research and, regretfully, Dr. Said was killed on April 8th during the fall of Baghdad when the car he was riding in attempted to run a Coalition roadblock.---STATEMENT BY DAVID KAY ON THE INTERIM PROGRESS REPORT ON THE ACTIVITIES OF THE IRAQ SURVEY GROUP (ISG), BEFORE THE HOUSE PERMANENT SELECT COMMITTEE ON INTELLIGENCE, THE HOUSE COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS, SUBCOMMITTEE ON DEFENSE, AND THE SENATE SELECT COMMITTEE ON INTELLIGENCE, October 2, 2003

29 posted on 03/17/2007 6:08:39 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: piasa
APRIL 9, 2003 : (NIGERFLAP : FORGED DOCS FROM FRANCE?) Western intelligence officials outlined the key developments in interviews here yesterday, even as Iraqis in Baghdad and Basra, finally feeling free of Saddam Hussein's 25-year reign, were cheering U.S. and British troops as liberators. Among the crucial factors the intelligence officials cited in explaining the remarkable 21-day path to the regime's seeming demise:
(clip)...article continues to quote Intelligence officials with the final paragraph stating:
The intelligence officials offered a tantalizing coda for conspiracy-mongers. They said the "crude forgery" received by U.N. weapons inspectors suggesting the Iraqis were trying to buy uranium from Niger as part of their nuclear program was originally put in intelligence channels by France. The officials wouldn't speculate on French motives. http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A1514-2003Apr9&notFound=true

APRIL 2003 early : (EPIC aka "EDUCATION FOR PEACE IN IRAQ CENTER: LAUNCHES PETITION DRIVE TO TRY TO KEEP FUNDING FOR IRAQ HUMANITARIAN AID AND RECONSTRUCTION OUT OF THE HANDS OF THE US MILITARY - AND IN THE HANDS OF THE STATE DEPARTMENT INSTEAD) Another group, the Education for Peace in Iraq Center (EPIC) this week launched the latest of numerous online petition drives, calling on their supporters to flood Congress with e-mails calling on legislators keep funding for Iraq humanitarian and reconstruction out of the hands the US military. "The State Department, in partnership with the UN and our allies, is the appropriate authority for US funds related to post-war Iraq," EPIC said in an action email sent to supporters. - AFP [France]

APRIL 2003 mid, a Tuesday : (CLINTON VISITS HAITI ON BEHALF OF HIS "CLINTON FOUNDATION," RECEPTION IS COOL)

APRIL 10, 2003 : (THE LEFTWING GROUP 'AMERICA COMING TOGETHER' HAS ITS WEB DOMAIN, AMERICACOMINGTOGETHER.COM REGISTERED; THE REGISTRANT IS 'NETPOLITICSGROUP'- ONE OF THE GROUP'S FINANCIAL BACKERS IS SOROS) - whois.crsnic.net

APRIL 10, 2003 : (AL TUWAITHA : COALITION FORCES DETECT A TYPE OF RADIATION THAT COULD INDICATE THE PRESENCE OF WEAPONS-GRADE PLUTONIUM) Coalition forces searching the Al Tuwaitha nuclear complex just south of Baghdad on April 10 have detected a type of radiation that could signal the presence of weapons-grade plutonium.
One of two materials is used to fuel nuclear explosions: uranium or plutonium.
The initial indications from Al Tuwaitha indicate the presence of plutonium-239. If true, this is worrying on numerous fronts. Uranium is far more abundant than plutonium and methods to separate, purify and mold weapons-grade uranium are not particularly technically advanced or expensive. Plutonium manufacture and purification, in contrast, is one of the most advanced weapon-fabrication processes. Plutonium weapons also require far less material -- as little as 5 kilograms -- and so plutonium weapons can use a wider array of lighter delivery vehicles. Unlike uranium, plutonium does not occur naturally in any form. - "Possible Plutonium Find Has Wide and Disturbing Implications, Stratfor.com, Apr 10, 2003 - 2202 GMT

APRIL 2003 : (RAMADI IRAQ : BAER & IRAQI INTEL CHIEF GENERAL TAHIR GEN HABBUSH MEET?) "...the advances were all rejected by the Bush administration, according to intermediaries involved in the talks. As US and British troops massed in the Gulf, Iraqi intelligence sent out a range of compromise feelers through a number of channels in the apparent hope of forestalling the invasion or at least buying time. The messages were sent through Syrian intelligence, and French, German and Russian diplomatic channels, and as the countdown to invasion ticked away, through retired CIA officials and a Lebanese-American businessman who met the Washington hawk, Richard Perle, in a London hotel. The first approach appears to have been made last December through the CIA's former head of counter-terrorism, Vincent Cannistraro. "I was approached by someone representing Tahir al-Tikriti - the Iraqi intelligence chief also known as [General] Tahir Habbush - who said Saddam knew there was a campaign to link him to September 11 and prove he had weapons of mass destruction," said Mr Cannistraro. "The Iraqis were prepared to satisfy those concerns. I reported the conversation to senior levels of the state department and I was told to stand aside and they would handle it," he said. He later heard the Iraqi offer had been "killed" by the Bush administration. .........There was talk of a meeting between Mr Baer and GenHabbush in Ramadi, outside Baghdad, in early April [2003]. "It was a promise to hold free elections supervised by France and the US," Mr Baer said. But the proposed meeting never happened. Two daysearlier, on April 9, the house it was supposed to take place in was bombed by US planes with six precision-guided bombs. ...."-------- the Guardian [UK]

[* My note : Who is the Lebanese businessman? Elias Auberdene or someone else? .... or more likely could it be Imad El Haje?]

APRIL 2003 early, aound the 11th: (ACCORDING TO ABC NEWS, IRAQI INTELLIGENCE CHIEF, GENERAL TAHIR JALIL HABBUSH, TRIES TO ARRANGE A MEETING BETWEEN US REPRESENTATIVES & SADDAM HUSSEIN- THROUGH ROBERT BAER, FUTURE KERRY STAFFER) Saddam Hussein's intelligence chief tried to arrange a meeting last week between US representatives and the former Iraqi leader, who an opposition official believes was seen about three days ago, ABC News reported. Leaders of Iraq's prominent Dulaym tribe told the US network that they had made contact with former CIA officer Bob Baer and others to try to arrange some kind of meeting. "They told me the chief of Iraqi intelligence was seeking to get in touch with the United States and could I do anything about that," said Baer, who now works for ABC News.
Saddam's intelligence chief, General Tahir Jalil Habbush, went on April 11 to the home of the Dulayn tribal chief in the town of Ar-Ramadi, about 100 kilometers (60 miles) from Baghdad. He apparently wanted to make arrangements for a meeting, but US warplanes then bombed the home, killing the chief and 17 family members, the network said.
"We don't know who to trust," Dulawn leader Abdullah Hamid said. "We don't trust them anymore."
Tribe members said Habbush got away, and added that they did not know whether Saddam was still alive.
But the opposition Iraqi National Congress told the network that Saddam was believed alive and had been seen about three days ago. The INC said "it had information that Hussein was seen about three days ago, at a meeting with senior Baath party officials."
"They are coming together in meetings. We've known several meetings have taken place. They're well-funded and they are well-armed," the network said. Earlier, INC leader Ahmad Chalabi told the BBC that Saddam was alive and "moving around" Iraq. ---- Saddam's intelligence chief tried to arrange meeting with US, Agence France-Presse, 4/22/03

[And Chalabi was right- Saddam was still very much alive... but how did the tribe members find Baer? ]

APRIL 12, 2003 Saturday : (KIRKUK, IRAQ : CHEMICAL WARHEAD DISCOVERED AMONG A NUMBER OF 13 FOOT MISSILES, CRATES OF MISSILES AND BOMBS) Weapons experts were called Saturday to an occupied northern Iraqi air base in Kirkuk to determine if a warhead discovered there is laden with a chemical agent. ...This suspected chemical warhead discovered at an air base near Kirkuk is marked with a green band, which sources said is the symbol for chemical weaponry. ... The warhead was found in a box Friday during routine operations to secure the airfield by the U.S. 173rd Airborne Brigade. It is about the width of a coffee can and marked with a green band that military sources said is the universal symbol for chemical weaponry. ...
Two initial "improved chemical agent monitor" (ICAM) tests showed trace amounts of a nerve agent on the baseball bat-length warhead -- at the rear and in the middle where there is a screwed-down circular area about the size of a quarter. ICAM is a miniature chemical agent detector that allows for simultaneous detection of nerve and blister vapors and aerosol agents.
The warhead tested at one bar on a six-bar scale, which would be consistent with leakage from a chemically armed weapon, military sources said. But two subsequent ICAM tests showed zero on the scale, contradicting the earlier tests.
A soldier who performed the second pair of tests told CNN that little should be gathered from the findings, because no definitive answers would emerge until chemical experts arrive at the base and break into the warhead itself. Soldiers were standing guard Saturday outside the storage facility where the warhead was found.
A large wooden box next to the one with the warhead contained a 13-foot missile, one of many troops have found at the base.
Some underground bunkers the size of basketball courts were discovered piled high with cans of munitions, crates of missiles and 1,000-pound bombs.
"It appears as though the air base was evacuated hastily," said Maj. Rob Gowan, a public affairs officer. "A lot of indicators seem to say that the Iraqi forces that were here left very quickly." - "Suspected chemical warhead found in Kirkuk - Ex-Iraqi colonel says he has chemical weapons information," from Thomas Nybo, CNN, Saturday, April 12, 2003 Posted: 4:46 PM EDT (2046 GMT) Thomas Nybo is accompanying U.S. troops with the 173rd Airborne Brigade.

APRIL ? 2003 : (RAY MCGOVERN TELLS AFP THAT IF THE US FAILS TO FIND WMD IN IRAQ IT WOULD PLANT IT) In April 2003, [Ray] McGovern suggested to Agence France Presse that the United States would plant WMD if they failed to find it: "Some of my colleagues are virtually certain that there will be some weapons of mass destruction found, even though they might have to be planted."

APRIL 13, 2003 Sunday : (IRAQ : REPORT THAT SADDAM HUSSEIN'S HALF-BROTHER HAS BEEN CAPTURED WHILE TRYING TO ESCAPE IRAQ VIA SYRIA) Saddam's half-brother, Watban Ibrahim Hasan al-Tikriti, is in U.S. custody after attempting to escape to Syria from Iraq, a U.S. official said Sunday. Al-Tikriti was on the U.S. list of 55 most-wanted Iraqi senior leaders. - "U.S. troops sweep through Tikrit : U.S.: Mobile chem-bio labs found," CNN, Monday, April 14, 2003 Posted: 1:14 PM EDT (1714 GMT)

APRIL 14, 2003 Monday : (SPAIN EXPELS IRAQI DIPLOMATS AFTER FINDING WEAPONS STASH AT THE IRAQI EMBASSY IN MADRID) Spain ordered seven Iraqi officials to leave the country by Wednesday after 21 guns and 800 rounds of ammunition were found at the Iraqi Embassy in Madrid, Spain's Foreign Ministry said Monday. Two other Iraqi diplomats -- including one who told Spain last week about the weapons cache -- will not be expelled, and the embassy will remain open, the Foreign Ministry said. (Full story) (http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/europe/04/14/sprj.irq.spain/index.html) via "U.S. troops sweep through Tikrit : U.S.: Mobile chem-bio labs found," CNN, Monday, April 14, 2003 Posted: 1:14 PM EDT (1714 GMT)

APRIL 14, 2003 : (REPORT : IRAQI NUCLEAR SCIENTIST AL JAFFAR TURNS HIMSELF IN TO US TROOPS) A TOP Iraqi nuclear scientist had surrendered in Iraq, a US official said as US forces stepped up a search for Iraqis who can shed light on the country's weapons of mass destruction programs. Jaffar al Jaffar had turned himself in, the official said yesterday [April 14] , speaking on condition of anonymity. His surrender follows that of Saddam Hussein's chief science adviser Lieutenant-General Amir al-Saadi, who gave up at the weekend with the help of Germany's ZDF television network. The official said Jaffar "certainly would know about their nuclear program as possible locations of nuclear-related facilities, and also would know a lot of people associated with Iraq's nuclear program, as well as likely other aspects of the WMD program"- "Nuclear scientist surrenders to US," AFP, April 15, 2003

[* My note: What's so important about the Iraqi scientist Jafar al Jafar? Well, it's that Qadeer Khan network thing going on... step back a few years ...]

OCTOBER 1995 : (LIBYA : IRAQI SCIENTIST JA'AFAR DHIA JA'AFAR ARRIVES IN LIBYA TO LEAD A GROUP OF IRAQI PERSONNEL IN INSTALLING A NUCLEAR ENRICHMENT KILN) According to the Jerusalem Post, Iraqi nuclear scientist Ja'afar Dhia Ja'afar arrived in Libya to lead a group of experts and engineers from Iraqi military industries in installing a small nuclear enrichment kiln in the area of Sidi Abu Zarik, approximately 380 kilometers south of Tripoli. The Iraq-Libya cooperation allegedly began with a secret visit by Ra'ad Id Aldafi, from Libyan military industries, to Baghdad on August 30, 1995. The Jerusalem Post goes on to say that contracts for Iraqi scientists to work in Libya were passed off as contracts for these scientists to lecture in Libyan universities and institutions. Unnamed experts suggest that Iraqi nuclear fuel could reach Libya by sea within weeks, and that Iraqi experts in Libya could begin enriching it after installing more small or medium-sized kilns. —Tom O'Dwyer, "Libya Helps Iraq Dodge Weapons Supervision," The Jerusalem Post, 1 November 1995.

30 posted on 03/17/2007 6:13:24 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: Sam Hill

I hadn't heard that, either. However, didn't Wilson list Plame in his entry in "Who's Who"?


31 posted on 03/17/2007 6:13:41 AM PDT by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: Sam Hill

The left keeps on saying that Bush and co. outed Plame in retaliation against Wilson. Bush and co. should serve justice and history and now really go after Wilson and Plame for their duplicity and outright lying to anybody and everybody and for the money spent on Fitz's show trial. Free Libby and put these two in prison!


32 posted on 03/17/2007 6:59:36 AM PDT by GBA (God Bless America!)
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To: Sam Hill

Bookmarked. This fraud needs to be exposed yesterday...


33 posted on 03/17/2007 7:05:28 AM PDT by ABG(anybody but Gore) ("We're Living In A Twilight World..."- Swingout Sister)
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To: Sam Hill

Excellent time table.

Of course it will mean nothing to the Hate GW/America rats in congress and their mediots in the MSM.


34 posted on 03/17/2007 7:50:06 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (GW has more Honor and Integrity in his little finger than ALL of the losers on the "hate Bush" band)
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To: Sam Hill

BUMP!


35 posted on 03/17/2007 7:55:06 AM PDT by windchime (I consider the left one of the fronts on the WOT.)
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"The left keeps on saying that Bush and co. outed Plame in retaliation against Wilson. Bush and co. should serve justice and history and now really go after Wilson and Plame for their duplicity and outright lying to anybody and everybody and for the money spent on Fitz's show trial. Free Libby and put these two in prison!"

That's a good point. It would really make a lot of sense for the administration to put together some kind of statement on their beliefs about what happened in this nonsense. And to use that as their reasoning behind pardoning Libby.

If they pardon him without any such argument, the media -- and the history books -- will have a field day. Of course they will anyway. But why not, for once, try to put the truth out.


36 posted on 03/17/2007 9:17:42 AM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: aflaak

ping


37 posted on 03/17/2007 9:37:19 AM PDT by r-q-tek86 (Snakes can't be taught to walk.)
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To: Grampa Dave

"Excellent time table. Of course it will mean nothing to the Hate GW/America rats in congress and their mediots in the MSM."

No, of course not.

The mainstream media are just stenographers for the Democrat Party.

It wouldn't even occur to them to investigate the facts of this story, let alone report them.

That's not their job.


38 posted on 03/17/2007 10:42:25 AM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: Sam Hill

I don't understand any of this. Thought Valerie Plame had been outed years ago and was no longer a covert operative at the time of this supposed outing. She made a statement the other day to someone questioning her that the Bush's administration outing of her ended her career and endangered other operatives in the field. When asked if she was Republican or Democrat, she smiled sweetly and said "why yes I'm a democrat." Has all this wasted time, energy and money been just another exercise by the Democrats to discredit the republicans? Somebody please explain this to me.


39 posted on 03/17/2007 11:34:06 AM PDT by tob2 ( "I may not be perfect but I'm always me." Anon.)
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To: piasa
So, did Powell choose Valerie to be on this team he created which set up shop at the CIA? And is this one of the articles derived from the Capitol Hill Blue's bogus source "T J Wilkerson?

Michael Isikoff and David Corn, Hubris, 176-177:

The day after Bush's State of the Union speech, Powell entered the office of Larry Wilkerson, his chief of staff, and handed him a draft script for the UN speech that was forty-eight pages long. Scooter Libby had given it to Powell at the White House. . .Powell instructed Wilkerson to start with the Libby draft and gave Wilkerson specific orders: he was to coordinate with the White House and the CIA to guarantee the speech would be as solid as possible. . .He told Wilkerson that he would be working with Will Tobey from the National Security Council, John Hannah from Cheney's office, Tenet, and [CIA Deputy Director John] McLaughlin. . .

The next morning, Wilkerson arrived at CIA headquarters to get to work. The team, including Tenet, McLaughlin, Tobey, Hannah, and Bob Joseph, assembled in Tenet's conference room and started reviewing the Libby draft. The process quickly proved tedious and exasperating. Wilkerson insisted on seeing the source for every assertion in the Libby draft--not just the citation but the actual report or document. Wilkerson forced Hannah to page through his clipboard and pull out the supporting material. . .

40 posted on 03/17/2007 12:30:36 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Fedora

"So, did Powell choose Valerie to be on this team he created which set up shop at the CIA?"

I'd be very surprised if anybody like Powell would have been concerning himself with a GS-14 (actually, a GG-14), which is the mid-est of the mid-level drones.

But while you are here, I wonder if you have any exact date as to when Mr. Wilson came to be involved with VIPS.

As you know, that agit-prop documentary Wilson did, "UNCOVERED: The War on Iraq" was really a VIPS project. It was begun in June of 2003, and finished in just a few weeks.

Given that VIPS is an organization of *current* and former intelligence officers, you have to wonder how they came to get involved with Wilson -- if not through Valerie.

Moreover, one of its more prominent (and unbalanced) members is Larry C. Johnson, who claims to have been a classmate of Valerie's during her training days. And he claims to have been friends with her ever since.

Did the VIPS folks know about Valerie, and were they working with Wilson, even before Novak's column came out?


41 posted on 03/17/2007 12:51:15 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: Sam Hill

Raymond Close, listed on the Iraq Study Group’s Web site as a ‘freelance analyst,’ is actually a member of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity, which, in July 2003, called for Vice President Dick Cheney’s resignation for an alleged conspiracy to distort intelligence, which they said had been uncovered by none other than Ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV. The following summer, Close posited that ‘Bush and the neocons’ had fabricated the charge ‘that the evil Iranian mullahs inspired and instigated the radical Shia Islamist insurgency.’ To Close, the problem was not Iranian training and supply of money and sophisticated explosives to terrorists, but rather neoconservatism.”


42 posted on 03/17/2007 1:13:36 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Sam Hill; All

MUST READ!!!


43 posted on 03/17/2007 1:15:29 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy
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To: Sam Hill; All

MUST READ!!!


44 posted on 03/17/2007 1:22:24 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy
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To: PGalt

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45 posted on 03/17/2007 1:23:37 PM PDT by OldCorps
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To: Sam Hill

July 15, 2003

Something fishy

Nicholas Kristof's column in the New York Times, as part of a charge that the Bush administration has corrupted intelligence gathering, has this interesting bit:

But Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity, a group of retired spooks, issued an open letter to President Bush yesterday reflecting the view of many in the intel community that the central culprit is Vice President Dick Cheney. The open letter called for Mr. Cheney's resignation.


Kristof cites mostly the alleged views of unnamed intelligence officials. So we just have his word for it. Among the only people cited by name are a newly formed outfit, Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS). Kristof treats them as a disinterested group of non-partisan, non-ideological experts. These are not crazed anti-Bush fanatics, like Paul Krugman or ANSWER. Yeah, right.

VIPS does not seem to have a website, but its email is vips@counterpunch.org, and their open letter appears to have been published at CounterPunch (run by Alexander Cockburn, the Nation columnist), an outfit whose staple is stuff comparing Bush to Hitler. VIPS also published an open letter in opposition to the war at Common Dreams back in February.

The spokesman for VIPS is Raymond McGovern, a retired CIA analyst. McGovern's email is also at CounterPunch. He is giving a briefing today with Rep. Dennis Kucinich. McGovern has compared the Iraq war to Vietnam, even saying that it could lead to nuclear war. He has charged that if WMDs are found in Iraq, they may well have been planted. He believes Tenet's job is safe because if Tenet were fired, he would reveal that the White House ignored intelligence warnings pre-9/11. McGovern has urged CIA analysts to illegally release classified documents to show what he believes to be true, specifically citing Daniel Ellsberg.

Another member of the VIPS steering committee is William Christison, who among other things believes that the Bush administration is attempting to colonize the Middle East, jointly with Israel. He believes that the war on terror is being used to turn the US into a military dictatorship. He is also a backer of the left-wing UrgentCall, along with people such as Noam Chomsky, Barbara Kingsolver, Julian Bond, and Jonathan Schell.


Kristof is trying to pass off a fairly left-wing group as a group of non-partisan "professionals". Remember Katie Couric's description of MoveOn.com, a very left anti-war group as simply an outfit “started by two Silicon Valley entrepreneurs frustrated by the political process”? This is the same kind of scam.



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46 posted on 03/17/2007 1:26:30 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl

"Kristof is trying to pass off a fairly left-wing group as a group of non-partisan "professionals". Remember Katie Couric's description of MoveOn.com, a very left anti-war group as simply an outfit “started by two Silicon Valley entrepreneurs frustrated by the political process”? This is the same kind of scam."

Yes he did. And he was not alone by a long shot.

When Plame's disclosure first hit, it was the VIPS who led the media charge about what an outrage this was. (Never mind that they are in the business of trying to cajole current and former intel people to leak damaging secrets to the media.)

Their "letters" to the President and Congress were the stuff of headlines both on TV and in the newspapers. All reported without any mention of who they were and what their real goal was.

And of course the absolute topper was when the Democrats picked Larry C. Johnson himself to "respond" to one of President Bush's Saturday radio addresses.

There was a clear and concerted effort to ignore what these people were and to pretend that they were a real professional organization that was concerned about protecting the integrity of our intelligence agencies.

When exactly the opposite is true.


47 posted on 03/17/2007 1:36:21 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: All; Suzy Quzy

Some other relevant FR threads:

Wilson Didn't Complain About "The 16 Words" Until He Was Working On Kerry Campaign
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1445574/posts

Wilson (2/02/2003): "Hussein will use WMDs to defend himself"
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1443079/posts

Former CIA Agent Phillip Agee On the Wilson Affair (The Traitor And Murderer Opines)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1442831/posts

CIA 'Expert' Larry Johnson: "Plame Undercover For Three Decades"
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1451694/posts

Flashback: "Intelligence Analyst" Larry C. Johnson: "The Declining Terrorist Threat (July 10, 2001)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1447248/posts

'Terrorist Expert' Larry Johnson's Frontline Interview About Bin Ladin (2000)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1451559/posts

Ex CIA Larry Johnson: Terrorism Isn't A Threat, But Big Tobacco Is!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1448666/posts

Larry Johnson, Daniel Ellsberg The Truth Telling Project --Pleading For Intel Leaks
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1451334/posts

Larry Johnson's Group (VIPS) Called On CIA Employees To Leak Secrets To Hurt Bush
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1450548/posts

Is Ex-CIA Agent Larry C. Johnson Threatening A Freeper?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1450846/posts?page=58


48 posted on 03/17/2007 1:41:26 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: Fedora
Thanks! Speaking of Wilkerson:

Affirming that he had called Bolton as an "abysmal choice" for the U.N. post, Wilkerson said Bolton went so far in his speeches that he was ordered to clear them with him or the office of Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage.
The former Powell aide [Wilkerson] said Bolton was too aggressive in pushing sanctions against Chinese companies for spreading weapons technology and "overstepped the bounds" in the way he tried to block a third term for Mohamed ElBaradei, the head of the U.N. nuclear watchdog agency.
----- Bolton Criticized by Former Intel Official By BARRY SCHWEID, AP Diplomatic Writer

49 posted on 03/17/2007 1:46:02 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: Sam Hill
I'd be very surprised if anybody like Powell would have been concerning himself with a GS-14 (actually, a GG-14), which is the mid-est of the mid-level drones.

That's true enough- my error. I hadn't heard her grade until this week's testimony and when it came out it made folks snicker.

50 posted on 03/17/2007 2:07:43 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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