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Hostage drill at NJ school features mock 'Christian terrorists'
One News Now ^ | 04-02-07 | Jim Brown

Posted on 04/03/2007 10:03:30 AM PDT by blackbeardsghost

A local paper reports that a drill at Burlington Township High School in New Jersey involved police portraying mock gunmen, described as "members of a right-wing fundamentalist group called the 'New Crusaders' who don't believe in the separation of church and state." The fake gunmen were said to have been "seeking justice because the daughter of one [member] had been expelled for praying before class."

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I was watching "Silent Hill" last night on cable, and loved the insane Christian group who were the bad guys.

Seriously, if you told the kids the muslims were coming to take hostages, the school would be burned down, and the principal would have his/her throat slit the next day. Might as well pick on Christians. At least people feel comfortable mocking us. Jesus said to be as harmless as doves, so it's a backhanded compliment really to single us out.

1 posted on 04/03/2007 10:03:32 AM PDT by blackbeardsghost
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To: blackbeardsghost

Only group that won’t retaliate.


2 posted on 04/03/2007 10:06:04 AM PDT by TeenagedConservative
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To: blackbeardsghost

All very well, but this nonsense pervades the establishment culture. The FBI spends more time looking for “right-wing fundamentalist groups” than Muslim terrorists. Bill clinton got himself re-elected by blaming Christian militias for the OKC bombing.

Now they’re brainwashing the kids.

Schools have a certain obligation to teach the truth to kids.


3 posted on 04/03/2007 10:08:41 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: blackbeardsghost

I had a liberal cousin who recently told me “You’ve just GOT to see Al Gore’s movie. And there’s this other movie called Jesus Camp you need to see. Talk about scary!”

I guess she thought I was a liberal.

I told her plainly, “I don’t like left-wing propaganda.”

That ended the conversation.


4 posted on 04/03/2007 10:11:55 AM PDT by SerpentDove (If you believe Al Gore, I've got some carbon credits I'll sell you.)
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To: Cicero
Schools have a certain obligation to teach the truth to kids.

That's like asking a whore on some street corner for a few pointers on moral behavior.
5 posted on 04/03/2007 10:13:31 AM PDT by mkjessup (If Reagan were still with us, he'd ask us to "win one more for the Gipper, vote for Duncan Hunter!")
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To: blackbeardsghost
A local paper reports that a drill at Burlington Township High School in New Jersey involved police portraying mock gunmen, described as "members of a right-wing fundamentalist group called the 'New Crusaders' who don't believe in the separation of church and state." The fake gunmen were said to have been "seeking justice because the daughter of one [member] had been expelled for praying before class."

Hmmm ... maybe a good christian group could sue on discrimintation ... after all .... who was the last group to burn down and blow up elementary schools?

6 posted on 04/03/2007 10:13:55 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Democrats in Republican Clothing ... DIRC ... They are the knives in the back of the GOP.)
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To: blackbeardsghost
"members of a right-wing fundamentalist group called the 'New Crusaders' who don't believe in the separation of church and state."

Oh, those wacky Swedish Lutherans are at it again. :0)

7 posted on 04/03/2007 10:14:16 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (The most dangerous place in the world is between Hillary and the Oval Office)
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To: blackbeardsghost
This being staged by the “Educational Terrorist” themselves. Doesn't surprise me.
8 posted on 04/03/2007 10:19:32 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (I buy gas for my Hummer with the Carbon Offsets I sell on Ebay!)
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To: COBOL2Java

How long before the NCAA tells Holy Cross to change its sports teams’ nickname?


9 posted on 04/03/2007 10:19:57 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: COBOL2Java

Funny. I LOL’d.


10 posted on 04/03/2007 10:20:01 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (I buy gas for my Hummer with the Carbon Offsets I sell on Ebay!)
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To: blackbeardsghost

Wow.....I’m speechless.....yet completely unsurprised...


11 posted on 04/03/2007 10:21:27 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: blackbeardsghost

“members of a right-wing fundamentalist group called the ‘New Crusaders’ who don’t believe in the separation of church and state.”

Yea! Those two idiots that shot up Columbine were incensed at the lack of separation of church and state!(sarc)


12 posted on 04/03/2007 10:22:24 AM PDT by ontap
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To: blackbeardsghost
I was watching "Silent Hill" last night on cable, and loved the insane Christian group who were the bad guys.

As a fan of Silent Hill the game series, that was one of the things about the movie that hacked me off about it. Rather than go the complete and more complex route about the Cult, its origins in Native American animism and Gnosticism, the divisions within the Cult itself, the symbology and prophecy associated with the Cult, they took the short, sloppy "Christians are bad" shortcut.

But aside from that, it's always a nice kick in the balls to see people not likely to engage in kidnapping and murder for their beliefs (Christians) portrayed as villains than those verifiably have been (Muslims, Marxists, Maoists).

13 posted on 04/03/2007 10:25:36 AM PDT by Quick or Dead (Both oligarch and tyrant mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms - Aristotle)
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Yep, most terrorism against schools have been of the Christian variety. Like the "Christian" terrorists that butchered a couple hundred kids in Beslan, Russia.
Christianity, the one religion you can mock and deride with impunity.
Glenn beck is right, Political correctness is the greatest threat to freedom is this country.

14 posted on 04/03/2007 10:33:54 AM PDT by McCloud-Strife (John McCain: great American, poor Senator, Horrible Republican)
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To: massgopguy

or their college name? or they can’t play or make $ off sports?


15 posted on 04/03/2007 10:36:47 AM PDT by wayne_b24 (every day in the Light is a good day...)
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To: blackbeardsghost
I was tempted to laugh at first, but the more I think about this, the more serious the situation seems to me.

Using blatant scare tactics to push a political agenda on a captive audience of minors in the guise of a "hostage drill" is much, much worse than the usual leftist propaganda. This school is to the progressive movement what Vietnamese reeducation camps were to the communist movement, and it's all funded the forcible seizure of private property through taxes. That they even had the police involved reinforces the fact that this is tyranny, pure and simple.

One might argue that this is an innocent case of political correctness run amok, but the detail to which the "hostage takers'" motives were described suggests otherwise.
16 posted on 04/03/2007 10:38:46 AM PDT by The Pack Knight (A fine is a tax on doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well. Gingrich/Bolton '08)
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To: blackbeardsghost

I’d be a liar if I said this didn’t burn my britches. The time to take public education out of secular progressive hands is long over due. I support privatizing education. It’s time to return competition, real competition, on the playing field.


17 posted on 04/03/2007 10:43:32 AM PDT by so_real ("The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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Christians won’t complain, and if they do, we’ll sue tehm.

But the libs are afraid of Muslims, and besides they share a hatred of America.


18 posted on 04/03/2007 11:05:10 AM PDT by TBP
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To: SerpentDove

LOL

You sound like me whenever the L.A. times calls trying to sell me a subscription. I tell the caller that I have a rule of not contributing to any political party and since buying a subscription to the L.A. Times equates to making a political donation to the Democrat party I cannot subscribe. There is always silence on the other end of the line.


19 posted on 04/03/2007 11:08:40 AM PDT by hardworking
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To: TeenagedConservative

Up next: Quaker terrorists.


20 posted on 04/03/2007 11:24:26 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: blackbeardsghost

http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/112-03232007-1318937.html


21 posted on 04/03/2007 12:13:28 PM PDT by Ellesu
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To: Centurion2000
“Hmmm ... maybe a good christian group could sue on discrimintation ... after all .... who was the last group to burn down and blow up elementary schools?”

ACLJ is a few steps ahead of you, lol they are on it! I got an email about this an hour or so, ago.

22 posted on 04/03/2007 6:07:14 PM PDT by gidget7 (2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:)
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To: blackbeardsghost

“mock ‘Christian terrorists’”

I’ll say...in more ways than ONE...!!!


23 posted on 04/03/2007 10:35:06 PM PDT by JB in Whitefish
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To: COBOL2Java

“members of a right-wing fundamentalist group called the ‘New Crusaders’ who don’t believe in the separation of church and state.”

....as far as I’m concerned, this is a HATE crime.


24 posted on 04/03/2007 10:36:21 PM PDT by JB in Whitefish
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To: blackbeardsghost

http://www.thesandiegochannel.com/news/3774563/detail.html
Iraqi Caught With San Diego School Crisis Plan
Man Suspected To Have Links To Terrorism
POSTED: 1:37 pm PDT September 30, 2004

UPDATED: 2:34 pm PDT September 30, 2004

SAN DIEGO — An Iraqi man with suspected links to terrorism had a computer disk containing crisis planning information for San Diego and other school districts when he was arrested by U.S. authorities in Iraq, 10News reported.

The man’s intentions were not known, and there was no indication that schools in San Diego or any other district were targets for terrorism, according to San Diego law enforcement officials.

The public report, “Practical Information on Crisis Planning, A Guide for Schools and Communities,” was downloaded from the U.S. Department of Education Web site.

The arrest was reported to the San Diego FBI office and the San Diego Unified School District last week. Parents and schools were not informed because it was determined there was not a threat.

“The clear message is that your children are safe and our schools are very well prepared, as well as our school district,” San Diego School District Police Chief Don Braun said.

San Diego Police Chief William Lansdowne echoed the sentiment that public notification was not necessary.

“If we’re going to warn people it has got to be something we’ve authenticated, it’s specific and you need to know this information,” Lansdowne said.

The school district did take one precaution by denying access to the emergency plans on its Web site, according to 10News.

http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=4582

Bush’s Predecessor Didn’t ‘Put Much of a Dent’ in Bin Laden Network

Clinton Was Warned: Terrorists in U.S.

Posted Jul 23, 2004

The massive report released July 22 by the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States reveals that the Clinton Administration was warned in early 2000 that U.S. borders were open to terrorists and that terrorist sleeper cells had already penetrated the United States.

The warning came in a memo written by National Security Council aide Richard Clarke after al Qaeda had failed in its Millenium Plot, which included plans to detonate a bomb at Los Angeles International airport on Jan. 1, 2000. That attack was foiled when terrorist Ahmed Ressam panicked and ran as he was pat-searched by a Customs agent at Port Angeles, Wash., where Ressam had arrived from Canada via ferry.

A search of Ressam’s rental car turned up the bomb he intended to use in Los Angeles.

Clarke made recommendations on how the United States could combat the al Qaeda threat. His memo said U.S. efforts thus far had “not put too much of a dent” in Osama bin Laden’s network.

In summarizing Clarke’s Jan. 11, 2000, memo, the 9/11 commission, says, “If the United States wanted to ‘roll back’ the threat, disruption would have to proceed at ‘a markedly different tempo.’ Second, ‘sleeper cells’ and ‘a variety of terrorist groups’ had turned up at home.”

National Security Council staff advised the Clinton Administration to promote CIA efforts to go after al Qaeda, crack down on terrorists in the United States, and bolster immigration enforcement.

“The NSC staff advised [National Security Adviser Sandy] Berger that the United States had only been ‘nibbling at the edges’ of Bin Laden’s network and that more terror attacks were a question not of ‘if’ but rather ‘when’ and ‘where,’” says the 9/11 commission report. “The Principals Committee met March 10, 2000, to review possible new moves. The principles ended up agreeing that the government should take three major steps. First, more money should go to the CIA to accelerate its efforts to ‘seriously attrit’ al Qaeda. Second, there should be a crackdown on foreign terrorist organizations in the United States. Third, immigration law enforcement should be strengthened, and the INS should tighten controls on the Canadian border (including stepping up U.S-Canada cooperation).”

The Clinton Administration failed to respond aggressively. CIA counterterrorism funding became bogged down in an internal fight in the administration. “The FBI operated a web of informants, conducted electronic surveillance, and had opened significant investigations in a number of field offices,” the report continues. But “on a national level . . . the FBI never used the information to gain a systematic or strategic understanding of the nature and extent of al Qaeda fundraising.”

On the immigration front, among Clarke’s recommendations were “creating an interagency group to target illegal entry,” “imposing tighter controls on student visas,” and “taking legal action to prevent terrorists from coming to the United States and to remove those already here, detaining them while awaiting removal proceedings.”

Concludes the commission: “These proposals were praiseworthy in principle. In practice, however, they required action by weak, chronically underfunded executive agencies and powerful congressional committees, which were more responsive to well-organized interest groups than to executive branch interagency committees.”

http://www.nypost.com/news/worldnews/70259.htm

AL QAEDA’S VIDEOTAPED SCHEME TO MASSACRE SCHOOLKIDS

By AL GUART

PHOTO EXCLUSIVE:
A masked murder gang uses an abandoned school in Afghanistan to simulate an exercise in which terrorists shoot at cut-out targets (above) representing teachers and kids.
- PBN News/Random House

March 9, 2003 — EXCLUSIVE

HEAVILY armed al Qaeda thugs practiced storming a school, shooting children and taking hostages in a videotaped training exercise, The Post has learned.

The terror rehearsal took place under the mandate of al Qaeda’s operations chief, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks.

Mohammed, who was arrested in Pakistan March 1, is being interrogated by U.S. authorities at a secret location as the United States tries to learn of other attacks he may have been plotting.

The taped training attack was conducted at an abandoned school in Mir Bach Kot, Afghanistan, north of Kabul, a hotbed of al Qaeda activity before coalition forces overthrew the Taliban regime in 2001. The video shows bullet-ridden blackboards and cut-out targets in classrooms, apparently representing students and teachers, said former Green Beret Keith “Jack” Idema.

Idema found the tapes in an abandoned house while he was in Afghanistan in November 2001 as an adviser to anti-Taliban force, the Northern Alliance.

“Knowing al Qaeda trained to take out a presidential motorcade or an office building is scary, but nothing is more frightening than their training to take over a school,” said Idema. “In a classroom in a camp near Jalalabad, we found little desks with bullet holes in them and the backs of the chairs each had seven or eight bullet holes in them. They were definitely aiming to hit critical mass.”

Idema, whose travels in post-9/11 Afghanistan are part of a new Random House book, “The Hunt for bin Laden,” said he gave copies of the tapes to the military and CIA within weeks of their discovery. Last week, government officials told The Post they believed the tapes were authentic.

But FBI spokesman John Iannarelli said no credible evidence of a specific threat to American schools has surfaced to date.

Segments of the videotapes viewed by The Post featured a hostage-taking exercise and three scenarios where masked men, armed with AK-47s, pistols and hand grenades, storm a school-like brick building. In one attack, which takes just eight minutes to execute, two gunmen rappel from the roof onto a window ledge of the building and wait for the go-ahead on a two-way radio.

“Two of the kidnappers are sitting in the cafeteria,” a narrator says in Arabic.

At the command “move!” a janitor sweeping a hallway inside drops his broom and pulls out a gun. Others burst into rooms, fire automatic weapons and bark English commands at a group of children and adults, apparently locals and other camp residents co-opted for the exercise.

“Sit,” a hooded terrorist yells to the children, who shriek in horror. “Don’t move, don’t move,” he says. The children are made to kneel and place their hands on the walls while adults stand with hands raised and are frisked.

The armed thugs then herd their captives down the hallways as they shout in English, “Go in here!” and “Don’t move!” Some hostages are then ordered to the roof.

“I don’t want to go,” one sham victim pleads in Arabic.

“Go before I kill you,” a rifle-toting thug barks back.

The camera then zooms in on a terrorist, who stomps on a child.

On the rooftop, a lookout announces the arrival of police. A terrorist then drags a “hostage” to the ledge for display.

Other training exercises shown on the tapes include an attack at a mock golf outing where the “caddies” drop their bags, pull out guns and shoot at a dais. The narrator announces in Arabic, “This is how we will kill the world leaders.”


25 posted on 04/06/2007 10:52:13 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty: The Pendleton 8...down to 3..GWB, we hardly knew ye...)
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