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Don't arrest, invest | What could marijuana decriminalization buy us? About $10.1 billion
The Prometheus Institute ^ | 4/20/2007 | Justin Hartfield

Posted on 04/20/2007 5:56:08 AM PDT by tang0r

Jeffery A. Miron finds that by decriminalizing cannabis, the federal government would generate $2.4 billion in federal tax revenue annually, and that an additional $7.7 billion would be saved as the cost of incarceration, policing, and processing offenders. Now, that's too much money to for the human brain to fully conceptualize, given the air quality around April 20th, so your friends at the Prometheus Institute have provided this handy quantitive index in order show exactly how much the U.S. can earn each year from cannabis decriminalization. The math: $2.4 billion per year + $7.7 billion per year = $10.1 billion gained in total per year. You're welcome.

The $10.1 billion dollars could, for those who are interested, do any of the following:

• Subsidize a school voucher system for half of the U.S., for good reason • Build three nuclear reactors, because Greenpeace will be high and won't notice • Extend health insurance to one million uninsured Americans, and doesn't that make everyone happy? • Purchase eight Stealth Bombers, or 2 Minitz class aircraft carriers, because we can

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KEYWORDS: bongbrigade; decriminalization; drugs; marijuana; weed
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1 posted on 04/20/2007 5:56:10 AM PDT by tang0r
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To: tang0r
Now, that's too much money to for the human brain to fully conceptualize

It's even harder when you are stoned.

2 posted on 04/20/2007 5:58:53 AM PDT by uptoolate (If it sounds absurd, 51% chance it was sarcasm.)
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To: tang0r

I’m having a lot of trouble choosing between the B-2’s and the aircraft carriers, although I’m leaning towards the carriers.


3 posted on 04/20/2007 5:58:59 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name after Harper's election?)
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To: tang0r

More short term memory loss.


4 posted on 04/20/2007 5:59:48 AM PDT by SouthTexas (Man made global warming is a man made LIE!)
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To: tang0r

Did they figure in the cost of drug rehab increased crime from dead heads etc?


5 posted on 04/20/2007 6:02:09 AM PDT by bilhosty (Rudy in '08, Jindal in '16)
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To: tang0r

Never fly. too many politicians and cops are profiting from the “Bonus System” of drug money.


6 posted on 04/20/2007 6:02:12 AM PDT by Seruzawa (Attila the Hun... wasn't he a liberal?)
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To: Seruzawa
"Never fly. too many politicians and cops are profiting from the “Bonus System” of drug money."

That, and the fact that the so-called "war on drugs" enables the federal government to exert more and more influence and control of police activities down to the smallest local level.

The ugly truth is that the "war on drugs" isn't about keeping the public safe, or promoting health, or any other tired platitude -- it's about CONTROL, plain and simple.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

7 posted on 04/20/2007 6:04:41 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: uptoolate
It's even harder when you are stoned.

Someone who is stoned or impaired in some other form should only be prosecuted if they pose a threat to others. These prosecutions can happen under existing laws. If someone wants to get stoned just for the sake of getting stoned and they do not pose a threat to others in the process, that should be nobody's business but their own. If such a person puts his/her own job at risk by doing that... well tough!

If we took even half of the resources we waste every second on the War on Drugs (which we WILL never win), we could significantly reduce real crime in this country.

8 posted on 04/20/2007 6:04:56 AM PDT by pnh102
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To: tang0r

dudes...what about anti-smoking laws ?
you sell me marijuana but wont let me take a toke ?
bummer.


9 posted on 04/20/2007 6:07:07 AM PDT by stylin19a (If you are living on the edge...MOVE OVER ! Some of us are ready to jump !)
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To: tang0r
Happy 420!!!
10 posted on 04/20/2007 6:07:25 AM PDT by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: tang0r
"Miron finds that by decriminalizing cannabis, the federal government would generate $2.4 billion in federal tax revenue annually"

About the same amount owed by IRS employees who refuse to file tax forms.

11 posted on 04/20/2007 6:08:02 AM PDT by brotherWesUpNorth
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To: tang0r

Doesn’t the idea of making nature against the law seem to you a bit paranoid?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSH6ofHbeUw


12 posted on 04/20/2007 6:08:07 AM PDT by D-Chivas
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To: Former Proud Canadian
I’m having a lot of trouble choosing between the B-2’s and the aircraft carriers, although I’m leaning towards the carriers.

You can't have a very good tailgate party on a B2. But on a Nimitz you can have that and the football game, too.

13 posted on 04/20/2007 6:09:13 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: tang0r
the federal government would generate $2.4 billion in federal tax revenue annually

How?

Marijuana can be grown in virtually every state, either indoors or outdoors. Those who use pot will prefer to buy it through home grown sources rather than subsidize the government by buying government packaged joints.

Thus they are setting up the need for an enforcement agency to go after the backyarder's. Is this cost deducted from the 2.4 Billion?

14 posted on 04/20/2007 6:09:53 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (In this (political) War, Republicans are gutless appeasers. -- Ann Coulter)
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To: Joe Brower
The ugly truth is that the "war on drugs" isn't about keeping the public safe, or promoting health, or any other tired platitude -- it's about CONTROL, plain and simple.

Bingo.

It'll never happen folks. Too much power and money flowing into the hands of too many people.

15 posted on 04/20/2007 6:12:34 AM PDT by Wormwood (Future Former Freeper)
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To: uptoolate

Right. Will anyone be working a full brain capacity?


16 posted on 04/20/2007 6:12:41 AM PDT by freekitty
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To: bilhosty
Did they figure in the cost of drug rehab increased crime from dead heads etc?

That's an already-existing cost. There is no evidence that illegal drug use would go up, as mainly those who want to use are using anyway right now.

Crime by definition would go down, as you've now defined things as not being a crime. But the peripheral crimes of those criminals would go down because they are no longer criminals. For example, they don't have to launder money anymore. Also, prices would go down even with taxation, reducing crimes committed to get money for drugs.

17 posted on 04/20/2007 6:13:04 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Joe Brower
The ugly truth is that the "war on drugs" isn't about keeping the public safe, or promoting health, or any other tired platitude -- it's about CONTROL, plain and simple.

Many people are making obscene amounts of money by keeping marijuana illegal - always follow the money trail - and you will see very many hypocrites.

18 posted on 04/20/2007 6:13:20 AM PDT by alicewonders (I like Duncan Hunter for President in 2008!)
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To: uptoolate
Once it becomes a major industry that lobbies and pays heavily into candidates campaigns like the tobacco and alcohol industries do, it will be loved an accepted by the Republican party. After all, it’s all about personal freedom, isn’t it?
19 posted on 04/20/2007 6:15:51 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: tang0r
Build three nuclear reactors, because Greenpeace will be high and won't notice


20 posted on 04/20/2007 6:16:49 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (stop repeat offenders - don't re-elect them!)
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To: tang0r
The math: $2.4 billion per year + $7.7 billion per year = $10.1 billion gained in total per year.

Not even a $1 is downside cost? I'm doubting the seriousness of this analysis...

21 posted on 04/20/2007 6:19:09 AM PDT by Onelifetogive (Liberals are willing to sacrifice any amount of someone else's money to increase their own power...)
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To: pnh102

Sometimes I wonder what I could have been had I not ‘wasted’ so much of my life tokin’, then swallowing, then dropping, and finally snortin’.

I might not have made the decision to go blow off college.


22 posted on 04/20/2007 6:19:46 AM PDT by uptoolate (If it sounds absurd, 51% chance it was sarcasm.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Are those fully equipped carriers?


23 posted on 04/20/2007 6:21:48 AM PDT by wordsofearnest (Zachary Taylor s/h finished the job.)
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To: tang0r
2 Minitz class aircraft carriers?...... For $10B? They must be really Mini-tz Class!..........
24 posted on 04/20/2007 6:22:42 AM PDT by Red Badger (If it's consensus, it's not science. If it's science, there's no need for consensus......)
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To: uptoolate

Unfortunately, what you were doing was illegal - so it forced you to have to be around some less than desirable people. They had a profit motive to get you hooked on harder stuff - & so it began.

It’s like:

Guns don’t kill people - people kill people.

Pot doesn’t make you lazy - laziness makes you lazy.


25 posted on 04/20/2007 6:23:09 AM PDT by alicewonders (I like Duncan Hunter for President in 2008!)
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To: freekitty
Will anyone be working a full brain capacity?

Nope. Everyone will run right out and get stoned. Except for the ones that are too drunk.

26 posted on 04/20/2007 6:23:16 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: wordsofearnest

No, they are the new Mini-tz Class carriers..............


27 posted on 04/20/2007 6:23:25 AM PDT by Red Badger (If it's consensus, it's not science. If it's science, there's no need for consensus......)
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To: tacticalogic
Nope. Everyone will run right out and get stoned. Except for the ones that are too drunk.

Or too full of Xanax, or Prozac, or Paxil, or Zoloft, or...

28 posted on 04/20/2007 6:24:22 AM PDT by Wormwood (Future Former Freeper)
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To: tang0r

uhh got a light, there, Promy?


29 posted on 04/20/2007 6:24:44 AM PDT by Syberyenta
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To: tang0r

More money well wasted by the government.


30 posted on 04/20/2007 6:24:48 AM PDT by bmwcyle ( Freep Fox they drop the ball on GOE)
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To: tang0r

I agree that pot should at least be decriminalized. But that kind of tax money from it is a pipe dream. It’s a weed, it can be grown almost anywhere.


31 posted on 04/20/2007 6:24:56 AM PDT by stevio ((NRA))
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To: freekitty

Will anyone be working a full brain capacity?......They don’t now!........


32 posted on 04/20/2007 6:25:20 AM PDT by Red Badger (If it's consensus, it's not science. If it's science, there's no need for consensus......)
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To: tang0r

uhh got a light, there, Promy?


33 posted on 04/20/2007 6:28:03 AM PDT by Syberyenta
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To: tang0r

Marijuana is not illegal just because we want to have a reason to arrest someone. It is illegal because it is harmful and dangerous to use.

Anyone calling for the legalization of marijuana is an idiot.


34 posted on 04/20/2007 6:36:58 AM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right....)
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To: tang0r

“Jeffery A. Miron finds that by decriminalizing cannabis, the federal government would generate $2.4 billion in federal tax revenue annually,”

Why the hell would anyone pay high taxes on something they could legally grow at their from door step, especially when they’re too stoned to get a good job? More crappy work like this kind of “dopey” study is more likely what we could expect from decriminalization


35 posted on 04/20/2007 6:43:00 AM PDT by elfman2 (An army of amateurs doing the media's job.)
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To: bilhosty

you obviously know nothing about MJ. it is not addictive therefore no rehab. Increased crime comes with the other drugs like alcohol, NOT MJ. stop getting your MJ updates from the gov’t, they will lie to you.


36 posted on 04/20/2007 6:47:28 AM PDT by vin-one (REMEMBER the WTC !!!!!!!!)
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To: Bryan24
Anyone calling for the legalization of marijuana is an idiot.

Anyone who thinks it is more harmful than alcohol is an even bigger idiot.

-ccm

37 posted on 04/20/2007 6:49:43 AM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: tang0r
We could get even MORE tax dollars by taxing homosexual behavior, incest, prostitution, hate speech, fast food, twinkies, etc., etc.

If we legalize murder, legalize rape, legalize assault, etc., and tax them by eliminating all laws, we can eliminate income taxes, too.

/sarc

38 posted on 04/20/2007 6:50:43 AM PDT by traditional1
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To: Bryan24
How many people here know that it is illegal to study cannabis in the US for positive effects? You can only get approval to study for negative effects.
39 posted on 04/20/2007 6:51:44 AM PDT by phs3 (If you call a terrorist a freedom fighter, I call you the enemy.)
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To: tang0r

Does this nation really need another vice?


40 posted on 04/20/2007 6:59:22 AM PDT by Blogatron (I pitty the devil when hippies start arriving in bunches.)
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To: Bryan24

anyone who claims it is harmful and dangerous is an idiot.


41 posted on 04/20/2007 7:04:53 AM PDT by vin-one (REMEMBER the WTC !!!!!!!!)
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To: tang0r
Cannabis does not need to be decriminalized. The problem is not that it is illegal, but instead the way its use is combated.

End the war on drugs and retain criminalization - in other words, if you use it and make a nuisance of yourself, expect jail. But no random searches, no raids, no property seizures, no spending billions of dollars in corrupt third-world nations on the drug war.

The important issue is not the drugs, it is the expansion of government power. Sure, get rid of the welfare state that would in effect subsidize drug abuse (Medicaid, etc) if drugs were decriminalized, and then we can talk about decriminalization. But for now, the socialists have forced society into directly paying through taxes for the poor choices of individuals. We cannot have both freedom from personal responsibility (socialism, the welfare state) and unfettered liberties. Crush the socialism, crush the welfare-state, and it will be much harder to justify the police and the nanny-state.

42 posted on 04/20/2007 7:05:43 AM PDT by M203M4 (Constitutional Republic has a nice ring to it - alas, it's incompatible with the communist manifesto)
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To: Michael.SF.

why would the average person grow their own. No need to much time to get from seed to weed. 90% or more of current MJ smokers would buy it directly from whoever is selling it. besides the people who are smoking now don’t grow it why would they when it becomes legal


43 posted on 04/20/2007 7:21:19 AM PDT by vin-one (REMEMBER the WTC !!!!!!!!)
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To: vin-one

I have to disagree with you. It’s surely addictive. Why are all the pot smokers so hot under the collar about it being illegal? I grew up being the only kid I knew who didn’t smoke it. All my friends did. We’re 45 now. They’re STILL smoking it regulary. Even though they have families. They CAN’T quit. It’s like any addiction where the addict says “I can quit anytime I want”. That’s an excuse.

And to those who say it’s nobody else’s business, the moment you step outside your house while under the influence, JUST like alcohol, it becomes OUR business.

What is all the fuss over smoking stuff that makes a person STUPID for a while anyhow?


44 posted on 04/20/2007 7:26:15 AM PDT by KingRonnie9
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To: tacticalogic

LOL


45 posted on 04/20/2007 7:29:39 AM PDT by freekitty
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To: Red Badger

That’s true.


46 posted on 04/20/2007 7:30:16 AM PDT by freekitty
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To: tang0r

I have a feeling that the pharmaceutical behemoth has been behind attacking the legalization of medical marijuana. Marijuana has been proven to aleviate macular degeneration, among other things. This takes away from the pharm industry’s profits.

The income generated by legalizing marijuana is a goldmine, but ‘the powers that be’ would rather stay in business busting people.


47 posted on 04/20/2007 7:37:05 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Head Caterer for the FIRM)
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To: vin-one
“Anyone who claims it is harmful and dangerous is an idiot”

Correction: Anyone who USES it is an idiot.

Consider the source, Losertarian philosophical insanity.

48 posted on 04/20/2007 7:39:42 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP
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To: Bryan24
Marijuana is not illegal just because we want to have a reason to arrest someone. It is illegal because it is harmful and dangerous to use.

So are cigarettes, cigars and alcohol. In many cases these legal substances are more dangerous than marijuana. But if we make cigarettes, cigars and alcohol illegal, that should solve the problem of people getting hurt or killed by using them, right?

49 posted on 04/20/2007 7:44:21 AM PDT by pnh102
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Correction: Anyone who USES it is an idiot.

And so it should be illegal because of that? Heck... people do stupid things with cars every day of the week and no one is calling for them to be banned.

The problems associated with drug use (or any kind of inebriating behavior) can be managed outside of the realm of government. Companies which need workers to be sober can do tests on employees in life-critical jobs and sanction those who fail. There is no need for government to get involved in this at all.

50 posted on 04/20/2007 8:08:39 AM PDT by pnh102
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