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WMDs in Iraq - VIDEO footage
VIDEO ^ | 08 / 07 2007 | drzz

Posted on 08/07/2007 8:47:30 AM PDT by drzz

According to the MSM, this footage taken January 2002 during a Saddam's military parade shows

A) chocolate B) product of Paul Wolfowitz & Co C) Bush's lies D) Harry Reid's toy

Actually it was a forbidden long-range missile with chemical and biological head which has never been found after the war.

This missiles, and others, have been showed to the world and aired on Iraqi national television on January 2002.


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1 posted on 08/07/2007 8:47:32 AM PDT by drzz
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To: drzz

The American experts observed a parade of the Baath Party in January 2002 which showed unconventional weapons which disappeared since the beginning of the war, in March 2003, and which are still untraceable. (Richard Miniter, 22 myths that undermine the War one Terror, Regnery, 2005, p. 104)


2 posted on 08/07/2007 8:49:49 AM PDT by drzz
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To: drzz

No, no.

The UN inspectors made sure that they were all gone. Nothing to see here, move along.


3 posted on 08/07/2007 8:51:22 AM PDT by WakeUpAndVote (Got Towel?)
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To: drzz

The Bekka Valley is where I’ve read on various posts that some of this stuff may have gone to?????


4 posted on 08/07/2007 8:51:52 AM PDT by FlashBack (WoundedWarriorProject.Org)
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To: FlashBack
The Bekka Valley is where I’ve read on various posts that some of this stuff may have gone to?????

It's ALL in Syria.... I s'pect!

5 posted on 08/07/2007 8:53:51 AM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: WakeUpAndVote

Bill Clinton blew up ALL of the chemical and bioogical weapons with cruise missile strikes in 1997.


6 posted on 08/07/2007 8:54:39 AM PDT by Holicheese (Zap Razdowler Rules!)
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To: drzz
Rest easy my dear friend. I have been assured by many of Ron Paul’s supporters that the “sand monkeys” are no threat what so ever to our shores.

If we will just pull our troops off the world stage, and secure our borders, magic faeries will just make any missile of aircraft attacks bounce off our nation’s airspace...

True Conservatives* know this...


*(please note the terms "True Conservative" and "True Conservatives" are a copyright of the Ron Paul campaign. Any use without express permission of the Ron Paul campaign is strictly prohibited)

7 posted on 08/07/2007 8:54:54 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (I am not really a Fred basher, I just play one on Free Republic. THOMPSON 2008!)
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To: FlashBack

UN, June 9, 2004

THE UN RAISES CONCERN ABOUT RISKS OF WMDS PROLIFERATION SINCE TRANSFER OF IRAQI MATERIAL

On June 9th, the UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission briefed the Security Council about the export of Iraqi WMD, missile and nuclear components shipped out of Iraq before, during and after the invasion. As reported by MENL news service, UNMOVIC acting executive chairman Demetrius Perricos told the Council, “The removal of these materials from Iraq raises concerns with regard to proliferation risks,” and said inspectors found Iraqi WMD and missile components shipped abroad that still contained UN inspection tags.

http://www.jinsa.org/articles/articles.html/function/view/categoryid/650/documentid/2563/history/3,2359,650,2563


8 posted on 08/07/2007 8:55:04 AM PDT by drzz
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To: FlashBack
Read Georges Sada's book Saddam's Secrets.
9 posted on 08/07/2007 8:57:08 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: drzz
According to the MSM

And according the the president, who apparantly agrees with the MSM that the WMD intel was botched.

10 posted on 08/07/2007 9:00:13 AM PDT by Huck (Soylent Green is People.)
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To: drzz; Squantos
Am I the only one who remembers the satellite surveillance records of massive amounts of hardware being driven to Syria just prior to the U.S. invasion?
11 posted on 08/07/2007 9:03:28 AM PDT by hiredhand (My kitty disappeared. NOT the rifle!)
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To: Huck

The great difference between the president and the MSM is that the President, if he says the WMDS are in Syria and Lebanaon, he has to attack both countries.

Gad it ?

Nobody wants that in the White House.

When the Israelis attacked Lebanon in te Summer 2006, they bombed the south, beyrouth, but also the Bakaa Valley :

http://www.debka.com/pictures/Lebanon.jpg


12 posted on 08/07/2007 9:05:51 AM PDT by drzz
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To: hiredhand

Nope.

CHECK HERE

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fdrzz.over-blog.org%2Farticle-3765611.html&langpair=fr%7Cen&hl=fr&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools


13 posted on 08/07/2007 9:09:04 AM PDT by drzz
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To: drzz

14 posted on 08/07/2007 9:11:57 AM PDT by Huck (Soylent Green is People.)
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To: FlashBack; WakeUpAndVote; Huck
On June 9th [2004], the UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission briefed the Security Council about the export of Iraqi WMD, missile and nuclear components shipped out of Iraq before, during and after the invasion. As reported by MENL news service, UNMOVIC acting executive chairman Demetrius Perricos told the Council, "The removal of these materials from Iraq raises concerns with regard to proliferation risks," and said inspectors found Iraqi WMD and missile components shipped abroad that still contained UN inspection tags.

The World Tribune reported on Perricos's briefing. "He said the Iraqi facilities were dismantled and sent both to Europe and around the Middle East at the rate of about 1,000 tons of metal a month... The Baghdad missile site contained a range of WMD and dual-use components, UN officials said. They included missile components, reactor vessel and fermenters ... required for the production of chemical and biological warheads. 'It raises the question of what happened to the dual-use equipment, where is it now and what is it being used for,' Perricos's spokesman, said. 'You can make all kinds of pharmaceutical and medicinal products with a fermenter. You can also use it to breed anthrax.'"

Source

Retired Air Force Lt. Gen. James Clapper, head of the National Imagery and Mapping Agency, said vehicle traffic photographed by U.S. spy satellites indicated that material and documents related to the arms programs were shipped to Syria."

Source

"Last month Moshe Yaalon, who was Israel's top general at the time, said Iraq transported WMD to Syria six weeks before Operation Iraqi Freedom began.

Last March, John A. Shaw, a former U.S. deputy undersecretary of defense for international technology security, said Russian Spetsnaz units moved WMD to Syria and Lebanon's Bekaa Valley.

"While in Iraq I received information from several sources naming the exact Russian units, what they took and where they took both WMD materials and conventional explosives," Mr. Shaw told NewsMax reporter Charles Smith.

Retired Marine Lt. Gen. Michael DeLong was deputy commander of Central Command during Operation Iraqi Freedom. In September 2004, he told WABC radio that "I do know for a fact that some of those weapons went into Syria, Lebanon and Iran."

In January 2004, David Kay, the first head of the Iraq Survey Group which conducted the search for Saddam's WMD, told a British newspaper there was evidence unspecified materials had been moved to Syria from Iraq shortly before the war.

"We know from some of the interrogations of former Iraqi officials that a lot of material went to Syria before the war, including some components of Saddam's WMD program," Mr. Kay told the Sunday Telegraph.

Also that month, Nizar Nayuf, a Syrian journalist who defected to an undisclosed European country, told a Dutch newspaper he knew of three sites where Iraq's WMD was being kept. They were the town of al Baida near the city of Hama in northern Syria; the Syrian air force base near the village of Tal Snan, and the city of Sjinsar on the border with Lebanon.

In an addendum to his final report last April, Charles Duelfer, who succeeded David Kay as head of the Iraq Survey Group, said he couldn't rule out a transfer of WMD from Iraq to Syria.

"There was evidence of a discussion of possible WMD collaboration initiated by a Syrian security officer, and ISG received information about movement of material out of Iraq, including the possibility that WMD was involved. In the judgment of the working group, these reports were sufficiently credible to merit further investigation," Mr. Duelfer said."

Source

"The short answer to the question of where the WMD Saddam bought from the Russians went was that they went to Syria and Lebanon," former Deputy Undersecretary of Defense John A. Shaw told an audience Saturday at a privately sponsored "Intelligence Summit" in Alexandria, Va. (www.intelligencesummit.org).

Source

"We are not talking about a large stockpile of weapons," he said. "But we know from some of the interrogations of former Iraqi officials that a lot of material went to Syria before the war, including some components of Saddam's WMD programme. Precisely what went to Syria, and what has happened to it, is a major issue that needs to be resolved."

Source

"Two days before the war, on March 17th, we saw through multiple intelligence channels - both human intelligence and techinical (satellite,eavesdrop) intelligence - large caravans of people and things, including some of the top 55 Iraqis, going to Syria."

Source

See also: What Charles Duelfer Missed

15 posted on 08/07/2007 9:12:14 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: hiredhand

general DeLong, Tommy FRank’s deputy :

http://66.249.91.104/translate_c?hl=fr&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&langpair=fr%7Cen&u=http://www.eyeonbooks.com/ibp.php%3FISBN%3D0895260204&prev=/language_tools


16 posted on 08/07/2007 9:12:22 AM PDT by drzz
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To: hiredhand
massive amounts of hardware

Actually, you saw trucks. You don't know what was in them.

17 posted on 08/07/2007 9:12:38 AM PDT by Huck (Soylent Green is People.)
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To: hiredhand
No, I remember about 2 months prior to the invasion, while we were telegraphing our plan at the UN for months and months.

Tons of stuff going to Syria, aided by Russians.

I even remember reading how we took out a convoy rushing to the Syrian border just at the start of the invasion, and killed some Russian ‘diplomats’.

The weapons were moved to Bekka Valley (who knows if they are still there) with big fat HAMAS (funded and run by Iran) sitting right on top of them.

18 posted on 08/07/2007 9:13:12 AM PDT by FreedomNeocon (Success is not final; Failure is not fatal; it is the courage to continue that counts -- Churchill)
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To: ravingnutter
evidence of a discussion of possible WMD collaboration

lol

19 posted on 08/07/2007 9:14:00 AM PDT by Huck (Soylent Green is People.)
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To: drzz

Some missile motors were found in a junkyard in Netherlands in mid 2003 right after the invasion, someone was cleaning house right after we went in


20 posted on 08/07/2007 9:16:51 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty; The Pendleton 8: We are not going down without a fight)
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To: Huck

What sort of troll are you ?


21 posted on 08/07/2007 9:19:26 AM PDT by drzz
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To: Huck

I’m sure it was a humanitarian mission...LOL!

Such is the nature of intelligence, we can only speculate. Ruling out that these were weapons shipments is tantamount to sticking your head in the sand.

The problem with all you ‘there were no WMD’s’ people is that you don’t know one way or another...you only pretend to know, and in the process ignore decades of intelligence.


22 posted on 08/07/2007 9:20:18 AM PDT by Vanbasten
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To: drzz

You are aware that this is a short-range battlefield rocket. Iraq was allowed to have them.

Do you honestly think that Iraq would parade a missile that they were not allowed to legally operate?

Iraq was legally allowed to have them if they operated under a pre-set limit. Iraq fired scores of them at Coaltion forces during 2003. None of them were Scuds or Scud derivatives. Evey single missile fired by Iraq were all found to have been SRBMs.


23 posted on 08/07/2007 9:22:25 AM PDT by Tommyjo
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To: drzz
I was being sarcastic. :-) Of course the current administration can't admit that it knows where the weapons are, because then they'd have to make good on their word with respect to those who harbor terrorists and take action against Syria (and probably Lebanon too).

...and so we play the "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!" game.

I had some "interesting" jobs during my 13 year stint as USAF/AD and although I can't disclose much, and will neither confirm nor deny... vehicles, people, and mechanized weapon systems are easy for us to identify track, and target from space.

I'm having difficulty trying to determine what the value was in letting the weapons move occur though. Have you read Isiah 17? He basically writes that Damascus will become a "ruinous heap". Damascus is the longest continuously occupied city in the history of this planet. It was founded by one of Noah's grandsons (Ur I "think"). It's NEVER been unoccupied by people, so it's destruction must be in the future. With what's been boiling over in the middle east in our lifetimes, along with modern weapons and their capacity of destruction we (and others) have the capability of destroying cities such as Damascus, whereas in times past, only God could do such things.

So if we all "see" Damascus become a "smoking hole", we'll know that we also saw Isiah 17 come to pass.
24 posted on 08/07/2007 9:22:55 AM PDT by hiredhand (My kitty disappeared. NOT the rifle!)
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To: Vanbasten

“”The chemical section (of the ISG report) reports that the M16 Directorate “had a plan to produce and weaponize nitrogen mustard in rifle grenades and a plan to bottle sarin and sulfur mustard in perfume sprayers and medicine bottles which they would ship to the United States and Europe.” Are we to believe this plan existed because they liked us? Or did they wish to do us harm? The major threat posed by Iraq, in my opinion, was the support it gave to terrorists in general, and its own terrorist activity.”

“Richard Spertzel, Wall Street Journal, 2004
http://www.benadorassociates.com/article/8195


25 posted on 08/07/2007 9:24:07 AM PDT by drzz
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To: Huck
Actually, you have no idea what I saw.
26 posted on 08/07/2007 9:25:18 AM PDT by hiredhand (My kitty disappeared. NOT the rifle!)
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To: Tommyjo

“You are aware that this is a short-range battlefield rocket. Iraq was allowed to have them.”

Thank you, now you can get back to school and learn to recognize long range missiles from short range. Could be great you finally understand the difference.

I did in the army.

As for intelligence : The American experts observed a parade of the Baath Party in January 2002 which showed unconventional weapons which disappeared since the beginning of the war, in March 2003, and which are still untraceable. (Richard Miniter, 22 myths that undermine the War one Terror, Regnery, 2005, p. 104)


27 posted on 08/07/2007 9:26:41 AM PDT by drzz
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To: FreedomNeocon
Yes, that's right. There was concern and questions about the Russian diplomats dying in the strike. People wanted to know what they were doing there. Diplomats my ass! It's a reasonably common practice to issue diplomatic passports to SOPs folks and carry goodies in the little bag. The MSM knows that if they don't talk about it, enough of the sheep will stop thinking about it.
28 posted on 08/07/2007 9:28:04 AM PDT by hiredhand (My kitty disappeared. NOT the rifle!)
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To: Tommyjo

Spell with me : “The American experts observed a parade of the Baath Party in January 2002 which showed unconventional weapons”


29 posted on 08/07/2007 9:28:37 AM PDT by drzz
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To: Huck
And your point is? Duelfer also said:

In the judgment of the working group, these reports were sufficiently credible to merit further investigation,"

Then there are 6 other experts quoted in that post as well, but you pick out one line that fits your view and discount the rest? Now that's got me ROTFLMAO!

30 posted on 08/07/2007 9:30:57 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: drzz

Thanks for the link, and I agree with the terrorist connection as far as the threat he posed. Strange that there is more belief in Saddam’s innocence than belief in our own country’s innocence.


31 posted on 08/07/2007 9:32:07 AM PDT by Vanbasten
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To: FreedomNeocon
I seem to remember that strike being carried out by helo gunships. Do you remember? Also, I remember it being called off after it was discovered there were "foreign" uniforms (non Iraqi) in the fray on the ground in that convoy.
32 posted on 08/07/2007 9:33:30 AM PDT by hiredhand (My kitty disappeared. NOT the rifle!)
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To: Vanbasten

Strange that there is more than half of America ready to create the new USA : Unconditionnal Surrender of America


33 posted on 08/07/2007 9:33:45 AM PDT by drzz
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To: Tommyjo
Iraq was allowed to have missiles below a range limit set by the UN (I don’t recall the exact number). When OIF kicked off, Iraq fired numerous missiles at targets in the Kuwait City area. The calculated range from the launch point to the intended target exceeded the maximum range for missiles Iraq was allowed to have. I know-I was there serving in a missile defense headquarters and some of those missiles were targeted at where I was sitting!
34 posted on 08/07/2007 9:34:26 AM PDT by colt1911
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To: hiredhand
No, You're not the only one. I also remember all the fuss about those truck convoys in western Iraq.

I don't recall that anyone said for sure what the trucks were carrying, though.

<donning tin foil hat> And I'm still waiting for someone to tell me where those three ships carrying WMDs disappeared to.

35 posted on 08/07/2007 9:36:15 AM PDT by logician2u
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To: drzz

The missile in the video is an Ababil-100. Scores of Ababil-100s were found as the Coalition entered Iraq. ALL of these Ababil-100s Iraq was legally allowed to own and operate. This was under UN Security Council Resolution 687. You know that resolution that the Coalition agreed on?

It was missiles such as the Al Hussein that Iraq was not allowed to have. The Al Hussein was based on the SCUD and weapons in the medium-range that Iraq was not allowed to have. It was SCUD based weapons and extended-range variants that hit Israel during 1991.

The Ababil was very well known to the U.N. Inspectors. All of these weapons were legal and tagged and recorded accordingly. A weapon of this size is one up from a battlefield rocket. It was legally owned and incapable of achieving the range of a SCUD or SCUD derivative.

If the video had shown an Al Hussein then it would have been positive proof. What the video shows is an Ababil.

What a lot of people fail to understand is the fact that Iraq was allowed to maintain an armed forces capable of self-defence from its neighbours. This included short-range ballistics and even medium-range bombers. For example the Iraqi’s were allowed to operate such aircraft as the Tu-16 Badger.


36 posted on 08/07/2007 9:41:47 AM PDT by Tommyjo
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To: Huck

so what are you saying, other than to LOL. was there or was there not WMD’s prior to the invasion of IRAQ.


37 posted on 08/07/2007 9:42:02 AM PDT by vin-one (REMEMBER the WTC !!!!!!!!)
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To: logician2u; drzz

Ya’ll be careful what you say here. An IP address from NGA.MIL is reading this post.


38 posted on 08/07/2007 9:42:08 AM PDT by hiredhand (My kitty disappeared. NOT the rifle!)
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To: Tommyjo
Some Iraqi missiles hit Kuwait City during OIF. How far did those fly?
39 posted on 08/07/2007 9:44:59 AM PDT by Blue State Insurgent (FRee your mind.)
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To: drzz

Oh c’mon, don’t you know a crayon when you see it? /lefty whacko


40 posted on 08/07/2007 9:47:10 AM PDT by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: logician2u
I have a bad feeling that it's going to be a l-o-n-g wait. :-)
41 posted on 08/07/2007 9:48:44 AM PDT by hiredhand (My kitty disappeared. NOT the rifle!)
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To: drzz; SandRat; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; blam; SunkenCiv; Marine_Uncle; Allegra; ...

Thanks for posting this.


42 posted on 08/07/2007 9:49:52 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Granddaughters!!!)
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To: ravingnutter
sufficiently credible to merit further investigation

LoL

43 posted on 08/07/2007 9:50:12 AM PDT by Huck (Soylent Green is People.)
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To: hiredhand

Incorrect.


44 posted on 08/07/2007 9:53:35 AM PDT by Huck (Soylent Green is People.)
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To: hiredhand
So if we all "see" Damascus become a "smoking hole", we'll know that we also saw Isiah 17 come to pass.

Or a coincidence.

45 posted on 08/07/2007 9:55:15 AM PDT by Huck (Soylent Green is People.)
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To: colt1911

The allowable range for Iraqi missiles was 150 Kilometers IIRC.


46 posted on 08/07/2007 9:56:11 AM PDT by Blue State Insurgent (FRee your mind.)
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To: drzz
And for those who wonder why Saddam decided to get rid of the WMDs before the invasion maybe this will be a little reminder that this policy of hiding his assets somewhere else was nothing new:

Iraq air force wants Iran to give back its planes

47 posted on 08/07/2007 9:57:34 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: Huck
Actually, you saw trucks. You don't know what was in them.

Your jedi mind control tricks won't work on...

I JUST SAW TRUCKS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WAS IN THEM.

48 posted on 08/07/2007 10:02:12 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (There's more than one way to burn a book. - Ray Bradbury)
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To: hiredhand

“Ya’ll be careful what you say here. An IP address from NGA.MIL is reading this post.”

Great, maybe if these m**er could do their job and target the bastards !!


49 posted on 08/07/2007 10:10:07 AM PDT by drzz
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To: SlowBoat407

lol! I wish i could pull that one off. really, i just know the surveillance the poster refers to. It was trucks. No one saw inside.


50 posted on 08/07/2007 10:11:57 AM PDT by Huck (Soylent Green is People.)
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