Skip to comments.OPEN LETTER III By: FReeper David Osborne 25 October 2007
Posted on 10/25/2007 1:07:33 AM PDT by davidosborne
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Passing it on... TOWARD VICTORY !!
Wait....you’re supporting Duncan Hunter?
I am as everyone knows a Duncan Hunter supporter. I want to say that I agree with David. Duncan is a conservative and they are not going to give him the time of day; just like they didn’t Reagan, even Carter and Clinton(hold my nose); but each of them won and hopefully we will select Duncan as the new President. I want a real conservative; not what the power elites and whoever are trying to force on me so business as usual or worse; a Hillary WH with the skunk and her rapist husband back in. Then what is going to stop them. I predict they will try and manuver Bubba in as head the UN. Awful pic; isn’t it.
And this should scare you. What about our beloved FR? I refuse to give up Jim and my FR.
I guess what I am saying; please think before you vote and look at the actions before and now of the candidates. They are pretty good indicators of what the person is sometimes more than words. Don’t let the powers that be divide us and put us into defeat. No more Bushes and no more Clintons; no more dynasties. We are America.
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Ping EMPHASIS to this thread to HomeSchoolers in my List: thelastinkling,davidosborne, metmom, tired of taxes
I’m going to add quite a bit of information onto this thread. Please, please, please, if you don’t understand something ask me! I have a very bad habit of killing mosquitoes with bricks. In other words, I offer up info that tends to make people’s eyes roll back in their heads. But this is important, so please keep coming back and checking this thread.
The point in referencing that, stories were coming out about putting restrictions on school lunches. I started following the stories and found that the grant initiatives went back to the same source as the animal tagging sources.
See my thread here:
Animal Tagging and SCHOOL LUNCHES???
I couldn't get over the relation! I found they both came from USDA related sources.
In RESEARCHING this further, I ran into articles from the HSLDA. It seems there were the first and savvy out on the internet and knew all about this beast. The beast is called:
Healthy People 2010
HSLDA has been covering Healthy People 2010
Healthy People 2010 is huge. It has 28 categorized initiatives encompased that branch off into far reaching initiatives with public private partnerships and grants programs.
Healthy People 2010 has been being introduced incrementally. In sections, it looks harmless; but when the initiatives are zipped together, it is devastating.
One of the aims of Healthy People 2010 is to end private ownership and rights. It makes us stakeholders of our properties. It makes us stakeholders of our personal rights. That means of our health and our children.
State departments of educations have been encompassing in loco parentis in their Healthy Schools programs. Healthy Schools is the evil offspring of Health People 2010. This is about MORE than issuing birth control. THIS is about changing parental rights with children to STAKEHOLDERS.
In the United States, courts often must determine who the legal parents are among the many adults who might be involved in planning, conceiving, birthing, and raising a child. Judges in several states have seized upon the idea of psychological parenthood to award legal parent status to adults who are not related to children by blood, adoption, or marriage. They have done so even over the objection of the childs biological parent. Advances in the same-sex marriage debate have encouraged group marriage advocates who wish to break open the two-person understanding of marriage and parenthood.
The National Health Education Standards has gone further and envoked in loco parentis by redefining parents as families. Families have been classified as stakeholders. Childrens stakeholders are being identified as any entity that is seen as a resource in a childs community. The legal definition of stakeholder is a third party who temporarily holds money or property while its owner is still being determined.
Schools often have insufficient resources to provide a comprehensive and multifaceted continuum of interventions. By having direct contact with families and key informants in the community, schools are better able to identify barriers to student success and well-being and better equipped to develop solutions that overcome these barriers. Schools can enhance home-school links by sharing concerns with families and developing solutions that address students unique needs.
In addition to the benefits for students education and well-being, students families, and school staff, there are reciprocal benefits for community agencies who partner with schools. Businesses, the justice system, community health and safety systems, and others may benefit from a healthier population. Community agencies and organizations that provide services to children and families often gain a more visible profile when they become partners with schools.
Examples of neighborhood stakeholders in student health and well-being are students themselves, as well as their families and teachers. Other school staff, community business owners, police, faith-based institutions, universities and colleges, local health departments, health and mental health service providers, dentists, emergency medical services, educators of first-aid, departments of health, justice, education and social services, and other agencies that serve families have stakes in the well-being of the student population and school staff. Communicate regularly with partners and potential partners in order to learn what each has to offer.
Mike Huckabee is being endorsed by HSDLA. Yet, Mike Huckabee is OWNED by Healthy People 2010. That is where all the 'nanny stater' nicknames comes from. Look:
Promoting Health for a Nation: Healthy People 2010
After studying this chapter, the student should be able to 1. Explain the historical development process of Healthy People 2010.
2. Describe the goals, objectives, and function of Healthy People 2010.
3. Identify the 10 leading health indicators used to monitor progress toward Healthy People 2010 objectives.
4. Describe the processes used to evaluate the impact of Healthy People 2010 objectives.
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Chapter 2 Promoting Health for a Nation: Healthy People 2010
Access to Health Care
The health care system is really designed to reward you for being unhealthy. If you are a healthy person and work hard to be healthy, there are no benefits.
Mike Huckabee, Governor of Arkansas
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[Mike Huckabee] has created Healthy Arkansas, an initiative that sets the state on a course to reach the Healthy People 2010 goals in obesity, physical inactivity, and tobacco use. The program is a comprehensive effort to clearly define specific areas where behavioral changes can lead to healthier citizens. Efforts include enlisting the media in disseminating information and presenting awards to encourage the participants.
Mike Huckabee even publishes his books under grant initiatives from Robert Wood Johnson. If you read my Healthy People 2010 threads (above), you will see they are the main funding source as the grant providers.
Robert Wood Johnson Foundation Annual Report:
Mike Huckabee’s books are listed here.
The emphasis on linking Mike Huckabee to Healthy People 2010 and HSDLA opposition to it, once parental rights are changed across the board to stakeholders, homeschooling options will end. HSDLA saw that years ago.
I think many would be surprised to know that the un is pushing 'Healthy People 2010'? Has been for some time. WHO. I may be off, but I don't think so.
You are correct. From my Healthy People 2010 link:
World Health Organization http://www.healthypeople.gov/Implementation/Consortium/Annual_Meetings/1996_consortium/kickbusch.htm
* Division of Health Promotion, Education and Communication
* 12 indicators of GLOBAL HEALTH FOR ALL strategy that were to be assessed by all countries in the world
* At least 5% of the Gross National Product to be spent on health; A reasonable percentage of the national health expenditure devoted to local health care; Equal distribution of resources; (snip)
* Same with the Model School Nutrition Program http://www.state.nj.us/agriculture/PolicyQA.pdf which falls under 7. Educational and Community-Based Programs and 10. Food Safety programs listed above. Our state just mandated it. So what does that mean? Our state took the grant money. Now, agents of this program get to enter our school systems to gather data and have auditing rights to the schools records.
* They have now criminalized the peanut butter and jelly sandwich so these agents can come in and gather information on our children in public and private schools.
* Target Setting and Assessing Progress for Measurable Objectives
And always the subject RETURNS to Duncan Hunter. I have a feeling that if you posted a thread about the latest Hubble discoveries, you would somehow be able to segue into a Duncan Hunter promo.
Good idea! I will get right on having a Vote for Hunter yard sign planted on the moon :)
Now that is creative!
Maybe we can get the next shuttle mission to hang a ‘Duncan Hunter’ banner on the International Space Station!
Oh, I like that!
Hi, Cal! How’re you doing? Thanks for the ping.
I still don’t know who I’ll be supporting, but I see that Hunter wants school vouchers. I oppose school vouchers, so that part of Hunter’s plan does turn me off.
Ironically, I don’t support vouchers either because of how that brings grant earmarks into private schools. If something like Healthy Schools gets off the table completely, then I could reexamine vouchers. But with grant angles shirt tailing, the vouchers would be a mechanism for a foot in the door.
I agree! I would like to see private/parochial schools flourish, but I think vouchers from Big Brother would ruin them. The same goes for homeschooling - government funding through tax credits might sound attractive, but it would ruin it.
I’ve met families that switch their children between a Christian school and homeschooling from year to year. I think that’s great. We would love to find an affordable private school for our children, but they’re all out of our price range. Still, I don’t want a voucher system, just like I don’t want universal healthcare. (It’s all the same to me.)
But there are other issues to consider Hunter on. I haven’t ruled anyone out yet.
Don’t overlook the point of this thread. I know I added alot on here; but I have to do it that way. There is no few lines I’ve found to explain it all.
The point of the material I added, HSDLA has endorsed Mike Huckabee.
HSDLA is very familiar with Healthy People 2010.
Mike Huckabee is a paid for endorser and promoter of Healthy People 2010.
Healthy People 2010 will END homeschooling.
HSDLA was first out with that information.
Doesn’t Hunter also support school choice? That sets up competition, the elixer of upgrading standards across the board.
School vouchers can go both ways.
This Healthy People 2010 initiative seeps into programs via the monies and contracts.
It is very big and we have been following it for years.
Vouchers, the idea, can work well to promote competition, this is true. But it is grant ‘infestations’ that corrupt them.
Healthy People/Healthy Schools needs to be killed off. NGOs need to be cleaned up, then, heck, after that, we may not even need a voucher program! But, the immediate concern is killing off the beast, Healthy People 2010.
And HSDLA endorse Huckabee, the poster child for the beast.
So there cannot be school choice without vouchers????
I think that is what it means, no? The vouchers are the vehicle that lends school choice. The vouchers attach the property tax money that is alloted to the school funding.
HSLDA was probably simply not aware of Mike Huckabees involvement. I will look into the articles that you have mentioned and see if I can find something that I could show to some of my HSLDA/PHC friends.
I seriously question why a failing school should receive Federal funding. The competition for students is what would stimulate upgrading standards.
Without vouchers, the schools with the largest student bodies would receive a like percentage of local property taxes, and operate inside those perimeters. Believe me, it would not be long before ALL the public schools would improve their curriculum AMD their methods of teaching just to stay viable. The tax payer would be in a better position to determine both.
I would like to see the Federal government completely OUT of the school funding business, and control of public schools completely within local domain. It worked for a few hundred years. Why wouldn’t it work today?
Thank you very much!
Too many things broken to see what needs to be fixed.
The school issue has turned into the stereotypical, “Hi, I’m here from the government and I’m here to help”.
>Too many things broken to see what needs to be fixed.<
Hogwash, L. To H. with the government.
L to H?
Hogwash, L (isa). To H with the Government
I meant the gov broke it.
I know. DITH! :(
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Thanks for pointing out the link between Huckabee and Healthy People 2010. You should've been an investigative reporter. I still remember when you first came across suspicious information about Healthy People 2010.
>>>>the link between Huckabee and Healthy People 2010
There you go!
This was a heads up to homeschoolers. The HSDLA was on top of the plans of the Healthy People initiative to end homeschooling and take away our rights. Yet, they endorsed him.
Actually, I should have said the point of my posts. I did piggy back on the thread and broadened the information :)
I'd like to see all education sold on the free market. Competition, lower prices.
Maybe they just missed it. But, it looks like you caught the attention of someone here who will bring it to their attention.
(For the record, I've never been a member of HSLDA, though I do think they perform an important service.)
>>>I’ve never been a member of HSLDA,
I remember you telling me that.
Duncan Hunter was responsible for bringing our Fallen heroes back to the US with the proper honors. He was and is responsible for stopping the practice of “common cargo” in terms of our soldier’s remains.
Proud mom of Capt. Derek Argel
Hey! Where have you been?
I have been out speaking for our troops. Sometimes I don’t have email, but will try to stay on board. Duncan Hunter rocks! Deb
Hey. I thought Huckabee dropped out.
And, if Hunter is gonna have a shot at winning, he’d better trim his eyebrows, get an updated haircut and wardrobe.
I’m not of the understanding Huckabee dropped out.
And if you want a nicer haircut, Romney is still in the race.