MD4BUSH re-incarnate: im4fred re-incarnate tries to disrupt Freerepublic.com

November 17, 2007 | Vanity

[topher]

Jim Robinson has created such powerful software for his site that evil and wicked people have found kinks in the armour to try to cause problems to this site.

One such kink in the armour is spamming via FreepMail.

Ol' Jim Rob forgot to program FreepMail with the:

IF (newbie) AND (Spam Detected) AND (receipients more than 5000)

THEN (ban poster forever) !!! With Extreme Prejudice!!!

It is understandable that Ol' Jim Rob might have a minor oversight now and then like that. But nobody perfect (though Jim Robinson is somebody I wish I could have been).

However, someone in Freeper Land asked if Sargeant Joe Friday might take on the investigation.

The money bags left by the poster seem to point to Hillary da Queen Clinton as well as Howard da Mouth Dean. Also there are reporters/editors of various newspapers/magazines seen fleeing the country to get further instructions from people in Russia, China, Iran, Syria, and, of course, from Mr. Chavez down South.

Da Ones headed for Cuba don't know if the corpse of Fidel can be revived for this one or not.

So handles like MD4BUSH and IM4FRED have taught us a lesson. Trust long lasting relationships on this site, and don't allow a single FREEP MAIL to jerk your chain.

If someone does that to you, then think of a way to get back at the enemies of this country -- both within and without.

That would be folks in Hollywood, aka people behind movies like Lions for Lambs, a certain church in Kansas with ties to Al Gore, etc.

So lets have some fun over this attempt to disrupt FREEREPUBLIC.

And maybe some of you out there might have ideas how to fix holes so NEWBIES cannot disrupt FREEREPUBLIC...

God Bless!

God Bless and Protect our Troops!

God Bless America!

And God bless and protect Jim Robinson, and the Freerepublic family!

[topher]

The Christmas and Thanksgiving seasons are coming upon us.

Maybe we should put some gifts under Hillary's tree as well as Howard Dean's.

Maybe we should be thankful that we fight the good fight, and the nutcases seem to be in groups like Code Pink and MoveOn.Org

Let us start spreading some good Holiday Cheer!

[topher]

ping!

Got any thoughts! Maybe we should have a name that poster contest for im4fred...

[topher]

Maybe you have some thoughts/barbs for this one.

I suspect someone was trying to disrupt Freerepublic with the im4fred thing.

Did you see anything of this poster before the Freep Mail?

I don't remember any posts...

For the MD4Bush saga, the poster/impersonator used the following: 2oth century

I cannot type that way -- using a lower case 'o' instead of zero ('0'). It is the style of a newspaper reporter.

Sure wish I could look at some Freerepublic logs and IP Addresses used (as well as other Internet traceback information)...

[SERKIT]

Maybe we should put some gifts under Hillary's tree as well as Howard Dean's.

Flaming bags of dog poop comes to mind!

CACKLE...CACKLE...(The Wicked Witch with the Bad Memory..."All I remember is charts!"

"Yeeee -ahhhhhhhh" (Dean Scream from "Dr. Evil of Iowa")

[cripplecreek]

I think it was someone outside both the Thompson and Hunter camps.

[bcsco]

Sure wish I could look at some Freerepublic logs and IP Addresses used (as well as other Internet traceback information)...

That's up to the powers that be. I'd be surprised if they hadn't.

[varyouga]

They do look at and analyze IP logs.

I got zotted once because an ex-GF was a troll on here. She logged in from my PC a few times before I even started posting here.

A short while after I created this account I got zotted just because we had the same IP address. JimRob let me back in eventually.

[bcsco]

As I said, it would surprise me if they didn’t. And I’d be surprised if they didn’t have filters in place to block IP addresses or newbies signing up from previously zotted IP addresses. (By zotted, I don’t mean someone suspended).

[topher]

One Freeper who I was acquainted with once (1st Freedom) kept getting banned. He/she kept coming back with different handles.

He kept coming back trying this and that to trick Jim Rob and company.

My only Breaking News post was about Chuck Grassley being senior to Arlen Spector on the Judiciary Committee and could have had the chairmanship. This was actually a vanity post on Freerepublic, but I did have a source for this.

It turns out, at that time, we were working at the same company, but from different cubicles. Jim Rob and company figured that out.

But I did not realize who 1st Freedom was... Later we found out we both liked going on to Freerepublic.

I am not sure what he did, but he/she was pro-lifer that ignored too many rules and put pro-life above everything else.

I consider that, given the tough job of being an admin to this site, they do a great job.

I imagine close to election time, it will be time for some quality Freepers and Lurkers to give payback for what im4fred did...

[RedRover]

Follow-up ping.

[bcsco]

Well, as far as payback goes, count me out. One reason I joined FR going on two years ago was because it seemed a community that was above wallowing in the same cesspool as its opponents. If that makes me a less quality FReeper, then so be it.

[PeteB570]

I got the im4fred PM.

Of course I just deleted it without reading.

I’m a fast clicker for sending e-mails and PMs to the trash can.

[Man50D]

Apparently Pissant was considered a newbie for his posting of The GOP's Flip-Flopping Four

[Calpernia]

I don’t think Jim Rob had a minor oversight with the newbies and freepmail. He included a Delete Button for unwanted freepmail.

Mine works fine :)

[swatbuznik]

I thought something was wrong there, especially calling Duncan Hunter a RINO..wth!!

[org.whodat]

No pissant had more warnings than anyone here has ever been allowed and he would not listen.

[Man50D]

No pissant had more warnings than anyone here has ever been allowed and he would not listen.

How would you know? Were you privy to some inside information about Pissant that no one knows?

[em2vn]

Are you referring to something like this Freeper Mail I received.

Last Warning
From Im4Fred | 11/15/2007 4:18:54 PM CST read

hello, this is a friendly reminder that you have not yet contributed to FRed’s campaign this month.

Please take the time to do so now:

https://www.fred08.com/contribute.aspx?RefererID=c637caaa-315c-4b4c-9967-08d864cd0791

And remember, we are coming down the final stretch and we must all rally behind FRed. Now is the time to say NO to RINOS like Duncan Hunter and Mitt Romney. Any show of support to these socialists is now expressly prohibited on FR and transgressors will be banned. Just ask Pissant:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1925333/posts

Best FRegards

[Pistolshot]

Did that article get Pissant banned or suspended for a while?

We have seen that happen to a few of the RP supporters for the incessant spamming in threads.

While we all have a lot of passion for our respective support of candidates lets not forget the basis of our participation here on FreeRepublic. We are conservatives, and to varying degree as any political organization, we are also human. Mistakes are made, things said in haste are hurtful, prideful, and not worthy of the integrity of what we are supposed to represent. We are human, and prone to making mistakes.

I posted a thread earlier this year, before the purge of the Rudy supporters, about not forgetting common ground and beliefs. Every election brings out the best, and the worst, in people you would likely have a few cold ones with or over for dinner. They would be someone who you would be proud to call 'friend'. This does not mean the things they say are completely wrong. It just means their passions are unbridled, and that needs to be in your own thoughts as you respond.

Am I guilty of this? Of course, and over the period of the last few weeks, I have noticed a few things. One, I look back at some of my earlier postings and realize what an A$$ I looked like. Two, some of the responses to others, who I have disparaged, in totally unrelated threads, have taken those insults to heart and now find me unworthy of consideration for advice or suggestion on self defense.

And that is what I have done to myself.

After realizing this, I have vowed to not harangue, argue or insult when the discussion is politically based. I have lost the respect of some Freepers here that I value as to opinion and observations, and for that I apologize profusely.

We are all conservatives, and we MUST remember that, while we find qualities in our candidates and ourselves WE think are worthy, let us not forget that the qualities other people see in us determine our value to them.

[fetal heart beats by 21st day]

Good question.

[Pistolshot]

No, pissant had a lot of forwarnings about some of his postings and responses. Including a very public one from JimRob himself.

He had turned down his rhetoric for a while, but couldn't control himself, I guess.

[org.whodat]

Do a search, I remember the one where he changed the name of the author and attributed the article to Malkin, because it was posted on her web site. He was warned by Jim that day. And there was others!

[Turret Gunner A20]

I got both of those — deleted in short order.

[daylilly]

Two of the warnings that pissant received were very public. I saw them and saw the threads.

One of them:
“National Right To Life or National Right To Lie
Posted by Jim Robinson to pissant
On Bloggers & Personal 11/13/2007 3:31:11 PM PST · 18 of 50

Best put your efforts into supporting your candidate. Trashing FRed 24/7 will not help you and it’s wearing thin...”

The other was last summer.

It doesn’t always take inside information to know when someone has been warned. Pissant had a discussion with JR on the thread after that warning.

[Vision]

I got the same message.

[smoothsailing]

:-)

I still think it was a RP supporter.

[calcowgirl]

Two of the warnings that pissant received were very public. I saw them and saw the threads.

...The other was last summer.

Wow. You have a great memory for a newbie that just signed up 2 months ago.

;-)

[RedRover]

let us not forget that the qualities other people see in us determine our value.

I'd like to second all that you said. Thanks for saying it.

[daylilly]

Glad you put the smiley on that. I lurked for awhile before signing on.

Also did searches on posting history, plus I was there on the thread for the last warning. I have a file of some of their posts to each other on another computer. Pissant irritated me, so it became important to me.

It is always a good thing to find facts before spouting off with too many opinions. I have plenty of opinions, so check them out.

[airborne]

Thanks! I was already in a bad mood when I opened my copy of the rant from ‘IM4ZOTTING’ so I went off on him pretty foul.

But I’m feeling much better now! ;^)

[Man50D]

Best put your efforts into supporting your candidate. Trashing FRed 24/7 will not help you and it’s wearing thin...”

Then FR is violating it's own guidelines for what is acceptable for posting. The guidelines per the disclaimer on the home page"

Please enjoy our forum, but also please remember to use common courtesy when posting and refrain from posting personal attacks, profanity, vulgarity, threats, racial or religious bigotry, or any other materials offensive or otherwise inappropriate for a conservative family audience.

Note the term "trashing", however that is defined, is not in the disclaimer. If disagreeing with a candidate's position is considered trashing then everyone is guilty and should be banned and clearly shows FR "trashing" is being selectively applied to candidate(s) FR endorses. People are "trashing" Duncan Hunter by that definition but such posts are still conitnuing. Apparently anyone who doesn't support Fred Thompson, even if it is for the likes of true conservative Duncan Hunter, is suddenly not considered a conservative.

[Calpernia]

I had this discussion last night too. But I never got a clear response.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1926883/posts?page=121#121

Thru

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1926883/posts?page=130#130

[Pistolshot]

Sorry, Pissant was warned NUMEROUS times about what his posts insinuated and flew in the face of facts. His warnings came from JimRob, while others of us tried to use reason, cajoling, humor, and a number of other ways to make him see that his attitude was not working to help him or his candidate.

This....Best put your efforts into supporting your candidate. Trashing FRed 24/7 will not help you and it’s wearing thin...” ....was one of those warnings from JimRob after a very tedious effort by Pissant and others to continually disparage Thompson despite the facts.

The Rudy supporters did the same thing earlier in the year to a horrible degree with JimRob, and deservedly got booted from FR by him.

It's one thing to have an adverse opinion, but when the owner/operator tells you to knock off certain crap, after a TON of patience, maybe you should listen.

[Man50D]

It's one thing to have an adverse opinion, but when the owner/operator tells you to knock off certain crap, after a TON of patience, maybe you should listen.

"Certain cr*p" is another very vague term not defined in the FR disclaimer. It only reinforces the point any dissenting opinion of Fred Thompson is interpreted as cr*p and is not tolerated by FR but that same cr*p can be said of other candidates regardless of being conservative. I'm listening loud and clear and what I am hearing and seeing is FR converting from a conservative website to a Fred Thompson website.

[jwh_Denver]

Why don’t you follow your tagline?

[topher]

First, I do apologize and agree with your point. Emotions were running high on this site after im4fred jerked some chains... I am sorry, and maybe there is no excuse.

But let me explain what payback can be. I guess someone might try some dirty tricks on the DUmmies site, and I guess that would be very wrong of people on Freerepublic.

But there would be another way to get payback -- to work for good politicians to come out of the 2008 election.

Consider how this weekend there is the expose of the undecided voters at the Las Vegas debate being Democratic Party operatives, it looks like that Party's politics is getting desparate and dirty.

So payback in this sense is to expose things like these Democratic Party operatives posing as undecided voters. Payback is spreading the word to people about this, so the 2008 election will result in more good politicians and less bad ones...

What I meant is more trying to beat an opponent the next time there is a contest.

For example, if Army beats Navy, then Navy might look for ways to beat Army the next year (in football).

The contest here is the 2008 election, and it looks like it might be a Hillary Clinton operative (she has a number of paid bloggers), someone working for the DNC (aka Howard Dean association), or perhaps even someone in the Rudy Guiliani camp (I consider Rudy to be liberal and RINO -- Republican in name only).

[bcsco]

But there would be another way to get payback -- to work for good politicians to come out of the 2008 election.

Oh, I agree with that completely. I simply read 'payback' meaning as 'in kind'. My mistake and I'm the one who should apologize.