Posted on 11/28/2007 5:29:17 AM PST by PJ-Comix
I love Rathergate. It is soooo satisfying on soooo many different levels. First of all there is the main player himself, Dan Rather, who is a flat out loon. Over the years it was FUn to watch Dan because you knew that underneath that thin veneer of sanity lurked a raving lunatic who was struggling to break out and frequently did. Then there is the fact that Rather was ultimately brought down by his own bias by using FAKE documents in an attempt to throw the 2004 election away from President Bush. Added to this is the fact that even after apologizing (which he now claims he was coerced into doing) on the air for using those documents, Rather still can't let go and like Captain Ahab continues to look for the White Whale of his exoneration which unlike Captain Ahab he won't find. Finally there is the fact that Rathergate gave birth to the DUmmie FUnnies. In September 2004, I was greatly amused by the DUmmie comments sticking up for Rather so I posted them on the many threads in the Free Republic dealing with the TANG (Texas Air National Guard) fake documents controversy. Eventually an FR administrator warned me against spamming the threads so I created the DUmmie FUnnies to record the DUmmie comments on this and many other topics. Thus was born the DUmmie FUnnies and for this I have Dan Rather to thank. So after all these many years, I find it great that Dan Rather STILL can't let go and has sued CBS News over this. You can read about Captain Dan Rather's search for the White Whale of exoneration in this New York Magazine ARTICLE titled, "Dan Rather’s Last Big Story Is Himself." Just as much FUn as reading about Rather's pathetic attempts to reclaim his destroyed reputation is the HUffie cheerleading section standing by their man Dan in this HUffington Post THREAD about the article titled, "Rather Speaks On Rathergate: What Pure, Unadulterated Bullshit This Whole Thing Is." So let us now watch the HUffies stick up for their hero in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, picturing Dan in front of a mirror in his ward repeating "Courage" over and over again, is in the [brackets]:
If he weren't famous, he'd be mistaken for a veteran of a long-ago war: khaki safari shirt on his back, scuffed combat boots on his feet, that wiry crest of a brow, rheumy eyes under heavy lids, lower lip jutting out like an ornery fish resisting a hook.
When Dan Rather sits on a bench in Central Park to tell how his 44-year career at CBS News ended in ignominy and humiliation, he is in fact still waging a war, a bitter and personal one. And the memories of the battles that undid him are still fresh on his mind. "Monday morning, about 8:49--and I think that is the time precisely," he says. He's recalling January 10, 2005, when he first received the 224-page report commissioned by CBS that excoriated his infamous 60 Minutes Wednesday segment on President Bush's National Guard service. Of that report, Rather says, "When I read through it, all I could say to myself, on each page, is, 'What bullshit. What pure, unadulterated bullshit this whole thing is. What a setup. What a fix.' " He nearly spits the word fix.
[That should have been Dan's reaction to those obviously fake documents and killed the TANG story as soon as he saw them. However, his hatred of Bush overrode that option from the get go. And now to read the HUffie cheerleaders hailing their hero...]
A true warrior slain in the defense of the 4th estate by fluffy multi-millionare morning show moguls.
[Sniff! Dan Rather was just too good for us.]
I have the opinion that Dan will be exonerated by the time all of this really comes out...the whole dirty ugly story...stay tuned!
[Until the year 2525 if Man is still alive.]
I hope Rather achieves vindication and prevails in his lawsuit and in the process reveals what we all know to be true - that our current Commander in Chief is burned out coke freak and a booze hound who used influence to get his sorry ass into the National Guard so he wouldn't have to go to 'Nam and then he didn't even have the balls and guts to finish that committment.
[Perhaps Rather will be able to find real fake documents to back him up instead of the phony fake documents.]
I agree that Rather will someday be championed for standing up for truth.
[Ward 8 will be renamed the Dan Rather Memorial Ward.]
Rathers story is that of a public hanging. He was set up to fall, and then slaughtered in a very public way as a warning to anyone who might dare to question the Fuhrer...I mean president.
[Legends of the Fall. Soon to be a major motion picture.]
Aren't there duplicates of Bush's National Guard records somewhere, I think it is Ft. Leonard Wood in Missouri? I have read that there are duplicates that may not be released without his consent. If Bush consented, the truth would be revealed.
[Somewhere out there, the originals of those fake document copies exist. I just know it.]
Also, anyone who thinks that those docs weren't forged is really gullible. Their modern appearance is just the first giveaway. The timeline and terminology are wrong,too. The Thornburgh report's expert found them to be fakes, as did most other experts. Even the experts CBS hired to authenticate the docs say they were fakes. I'm looking forward to the trial, if it ever goes forward, for the sheer entertainment value. Except that it is kind of sad to see Rather humiliate himself this way.
[I disagree. I find it kind of FUnnie to see Rather humiliate himself this way.]
nobody has proved the memos to be faked - period. the only gullible folks are those who believe Bush to be some kind of supreme protector with a wellspring of integrity. he's as big a fraud and a phony as anyone.
[Yeah. Modern typeface and superscripts were used back in the 70s on military bases that didn't have the equipment to produce them. They HAVE to be authentic.]
This whole thing is such a ridiculous load CRAP. Everyone with a minimum of synaptic firing knows damn well that Bush is a GIANT Chicken Hawk who never EVER served a day of duty. The idea that Rather was even unearthing anything new is just absurd. The GOP is chalk full of cowards who are eager to line their pockets with military cash for the sacrifice of other peoples kids and loved ones. This is so pathetic. How many honorable people will the MSM and the Bush Klan take down with them before they get a few teeth knocked out of their greedy little heads. The whole ENTIRE GOP are a bunch of sniveling bedwetters who can't stand a fair fight because they are so incrediblyt WEAK. And these are the ones who are suppose to protect us? Give me just a small break. Go Dan! Give em Hell, Moonves, Redstone and the rest of the Big Fat Baby Brigade.
[You can receive treatment for your severe BDS in the Dan Rather Memorial Ward.]
The person who would have typed them confirmed the accuracy of the contents and stated she may have typed them but couldn't remember typing in that sheet of paper 30 years ago. She did confirm the contents as being true and confirmed that such documents would have existed.
[Yeah, that secretary can remember 30 years later exactly what she typed, word for word. That is an even greater feat than Pied Piper Pitt quoting Ty the Bouncer at length word for word after a drunken foray at Bukowski's.]
If the newer printer (periperial hardware) is programed into the software, and it has to be in order for it to print. It will no longer printout using the characteristic of the older one but the newer one. Voila different fonts, different spacing, different page format and layout.
[Wow! Get this info to Dan Rather. He may still win his lawsuit.]
The documents were disputed by rightwingers nearly before the document came out. Who the hell would notice spacing and fonts so readily
[Wrong. The authenticity of the documents were questioned by Freeper Buckhead shortly after the TANG story aired.]
Everyone should get behind Rather on this. Say what you want about Rather, he wouldn't have concocted a story out of wholecloth, and he certainly wouldn't have risked his entire career to "get" a politician he didn't like.
[Dan Rather didn't figure that the Web is a great place for fact checking a story and his biased fantasy didn't check out.]
Dan: Don't stop until you expose the full truth on this, and then communicate it to the World. The best way to stop any covert plan is to make it overt. And if the rock under which these folks have been operating is ever fully lifted, I expect what we will find will be a handful of vile traitors who have been colluding in ways that are not only unamerican, but are shocking, highly unlawful, immoral, and intolerable. It would be ironic, but no doubt well deserved, if Mr. Cheney were a future occupant in one of those Halliburton jail cells he has been building for the rest of us.
[How much you want to bet that this HUffie is also a 9/11 Truther?]
Stand tall Rather. Your story was accurate. CBS knows it but fed you to the wolves to curry favor with the Royal Court and cover up the irresponsible behavior of spoiled snow inhaler and youthful drunk, little boy Bush. They deserve to be sued for selling out their news organization and the American public for a cheap bit of good will from this unscrupulous White House. Here's hoping you shove it up Redstone's synchophantic rear end splincter.
[A Dan Rather Truther speaks up.]
Rather's outster was DESIGNED BY KARL ROVE.It's more than obvious that this is the tactic used by Rove and his Republicans to undermine and threaten people in media and politics who didn't go along with Rove-Bush-Cheney fascistic politics.
[And Karl Rove was disguised as Lucy Ramirez when he/she faxed those documents to CBS from a Kinko's in Amarillo.]
Dan Rather was not duped - the documents were never proven to be forgeries AND the facts of the reports have never been proven wrong. Chimpy was not duped on wmd - he lied because his handler (darth cheney) and all the other PNACers had such a hard-on to get to Saddam's oil. They knew exactly what they were doing and they achieved their goal - maybe chimpy didn't really understand the implications of the lies back then because he is so monumentally stupid - but you can be sure that darth and co. knew exactly what they were doing.
[I would love to see this HUffie appear in court as a character witness for Dan Rather. BTW, will this lawsuit trial be televised? I want my laughs!]
Rather was the last real "Journalist" left on the MSM! His story is true, but I will not try to convince any of you "Right-Wing Troll Propagandists" who have been paid to come to this site by your "Masters," just because they think you can sway our opinion or change the subject. YOU WILL NEVER DO THAT! Dan Rather is a "true" journalist and a real patriot, and you TROLLS can all BUZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ OFF!
[Yes, the documents were fake but accurate.]
No documents were proven to be forged. What are you talking about? SUCKER!
[Even though the typeface and superscripts didn't exist on machines at military bases in the 70s.]
p.s.I have a feeling that Charles will be coming up with a new Dan Rather song.
(Having a feed reader catch the blog version really pays off).
And don't sweat the missing Bolshevik Red.
PING!
Top 10!
Top ten!
Top 10
Courage!
Top 10?
I have a copy of floppy disk from FDR that proves he intentionally let the Japs bomb Pearl Harbor. I know it is legitimate.
#10??
Don't confuse me with the facts!
Top Ten (counting in Business Posts).
Watching Dan is like visiting a nursing home and watching some old geezer in the corner staring at a TV and soiling himself.
He set himself up to fall. That's what good psychos usually do.
It's as legitimate as my audio of Jefferson Davis' interview with Allan Pinkerton when he agreed to spy for the Union Secret Service.
Have you been in contact with SeeBS yet?
I found the original USB Jump-drive that the members of the 1st Congress used while debating the Bill of Rights to the U.S. Constitution -- it proves that the second amendment was only meant to apply to militia! ;-)
Looks like this DUmmie has been smoking chalk dust.
What happened is that I checked one of the links and then when I closed that I also closed this entire DUFU editiion here on the FR.
There will probably be some MSM lurkers contacting you for that.
[I disagree. I find it kind of FUnnie to see Rather humiliate himself this way.]
I think this HUffie poster has to be one of those [LOUSY FREEPER TROLLS] to post that reply.
nobody has proved the memos to be faked - period. the only gullible folks are those who believe Bush to be some kind of supreme protector with a wellspring of integrity. he's as big a fraud and a phony as anyone.
[Yeah. Modern typeface and superscripts were used back in the 70s on military bases that didn't have the equipment to produce them. They HAVE to be authentic.]
I remember when this hit and we still had a 1970 era typewriter at our shop that was being repaired. It was one of the most modern ones we ever had for that era, and it had NO superscript capability.
Karl Rove made Rather come out of the closet?
drat, late again :-(
No big deal about the BolShevik Red, PJ. The DuFu today is a classic, with the HUffies defending Rather.
It was such a great moment in alternative media (Rush was talking about this yesterday, not the TANG docs but was explaining the difference between Viet Nam and Iraq to a young skull full of mush) but I was watching it unfold as Buckhead (may his screen name be ever revered) picked the documents apart. I also look forward to a televised trial.
but I will not try to convince any of you “Right-Wing Troll Propagandists” who have been paid to come to this site by your “Masters,”
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Who is being paid? How much? By whom?
Trying my best to ignore the 300 pound benburch joke in the middle of the room.
Speaking of those cells, Halliburton needs to get off their ass and get these cells finished. The HUffies, DUmmies and KOmmies keep talking about them--I want to see them put to use.
Yes, way back in the '70's a young Karl Rove convinced a TANG secretary to send the memo to a print shop where it would be printed with proportional fonts and superscript. He wasn't sure why he did that; he just knew it would come in handy later.
Is that like getting a splinter up the sphincter?
Bill Burket disagrees. His latest story is that he retyped them and burned the originals. (Really!)
Normally, when a person changes his story to account for inconsistencies and contradictory evidence, they lose some small measure of credibility.
Can you imagine Dick Thornburg's job wading through this merde pile?
Dan Rather has the worst BO I have ever smelled.
They’ll offer to pay him some “Shut Up And Go Away” money, like they did with Mapes. Nowhere near what he is asking for. It will be cheaper than the legal fees, plus the risk that some wacko jury will actually find for the moonbat. The only question is, is Danny Boy smart enough to take it, or will he “fight to the death on this hill.”
If he fights then the real entertainment begins.
Karl Rove made Rather come out of the closet?
OK, it looks like there are 2 acceptable lines of thought. We aren’t supposed to notice that they completely contradict each other because if the first one turns out to be false than the second MUST be true:
1. The documents have never been PROVEN (i.e. no proof will ever be enough) to be false, therefore they are REAL.
2. The “bogus” TANG documents were planted by Karl Rove to bring down Dan Rather (the only one “speaking moonbat to reality”).
Cindie
FUnny, when I read this I immediately thought: under rock = under mommy's house.
Fixed the font color for ya PJ..............
Wait...I thought they liked people like this?
Cindie
That story is at least plausible. Too bad it destroys the documents' usefulness as 'evidence'!
OMG, I have never read so much hatred and stupidity as I have read here on this HuffPo thread! What morons!
Nothing improves your credibility like constantly changing your story to account for inconsistencies and contradictory evidence.
I’m getting the vibe that with Sumner it’s not business anymore, it’s personal. Just like with Gunga Dan. It’s all about ego. I think the Redstone arsenal has had about all of Rather’s crap he’s gonna tolerate.
I personally knew two warrant officers, one LTC and several other people who were involved in this scam. One warrant officer had the nickname of “George the Conn man”, because Conn was his last name.
He and the one LTC Adams, hated Bush for the fact that he was elected Governor of Texas the FIRST time. These people had a vendetta against any conservative person in the military, including me.
A couple of basic and valid assumptions about big time TV.
The Suits are cowards. No balls.
Dan is now reasonably well emotionally, but there was a time a few years ago that he could have been in secure facility for a while, for his own good.
Dan has no trouble twisting the truth to make Dan look good. His books are classic examples of this.
Dan may not want to ever sit in an open courtroom. Years ago, when videoing Barbara Walters, cameramen would use a special filter to get rid of wrinkles. Now it’s an electronic circuit. Without that, and unless he has a strong facelift, Dan looks like an old saddle in person. The last time I spent any time up close with him was on the top floor of the Hay Adams Hotel in DC, overlooking the WH, where we were set up to cover to 2000 inauguration. He looked like hell.
I don’t think Dan would do well on the stand. His life has been 50 years of asking questions, not having to answer them.
Secondly, he could come off like Howard Beale the Second when he tried to explain why he didn't feel it was necessary to fully document the supposed supporting paperwork, why he didn't follow the classic rules of journalism, why he ignored advice from experts that the documents were forged, etc.
Regarding his claim for damages because CBS would not put him on the air? Idiocy. Their answer is simple. After what he had done, we were simply trying to protect the Dan Rather of Old and his reputation (and CBS's) from Dan Rather 2006.
Finally, there is no protection he can cite to have others not testify about comments he has made over the years.
In every case in the past when he has been sued, everyone at CBS lined up behind him. Now, they would all draw straws to see who would be the first to put a spear between his ribs.
I knew when Dan Rather replaced Cronkite that it was over for CBS, insofar as integrity was concerned. To this day I can’t see why they didn’t promote Roger Mudd who was light years ahead of the moonbat Rather. Rather is a clown, Maximus in Minimus.
Same here. For years, I have seen "evidence" of such cells at Walmart stores, but my sources have alluded that Target is now getting in on the Halliburton/Re-education center movement.
(No sense in Walmart having all the fun, besides, more DUmmies, HUffies, and KOmmies frequent Target than Walmart....)
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