Posted on 12/12/2007 3:08:06 PM PST by Tlaloc
We do have to give moderator Carolyn Washburn credit for asking a good question about education -- not only because the subject is often ignored on the campaign trail, but because ...
... it sparked a noteworthy outburst by Fred Thompson against the National Education Assn. -- the nation's leading teachers union.
Washburn asked the candidates to identify the biggest impediment to improving public education.
Thompson was clear and direct in his response, making the case for giving families, especially low-income ones, greater latitude in choosing the schools their children attend, presumably through a government-backed voucher program.
"The biggest obstacle, in my opinion, is the National Educational Assn., the NEA," said Thompson, who up to now hasn't exactly set pulses a-racing with his somewhat leisurely approach to seeking the White House.
He continued: "I read time and time again, every time someone wants to inject a little choice into the equation for the benefit of the kids, inject a little freedom, inject a little competition ... the NEA is there to oppose it and bring in millions and millions of dollars to go on television and work and scare people and misrepresent the situation on the ground.
"I think that that just goes against everything that we know that can make progress in this country. We're a nation of freedom and innovation and choice, and well-to-do people are out in the suburbs. They don't seem to care that much. Inner-city people need a chance to enjoy (school) choice ... Let's give it to everybody else and let's stop people from standing in the way of that."
Mitt Romney a few minutes later endorsed Thompson's bashing of the NEA.
(Excerpt) Read more at latimesblogs.latimes.com ...
HilaryCare once again proves that she is the worst speaker in American political history. Both Douglas and Lincoln are grave spinning as she assaults the English language with her educational status quo screed. Once again proving that she is a true central planner Stalinist with no clue of basic economics, gives her long winded; winding drivel that would have earned her an F in 9th grade speech class. Without a lapdog press she would have zero chance of getting the Party election and should never be misoverestimated for President as the pathetic candidate she is. How many chances does she get to prove that she cannot give a decent screech?
Finally addressing the Plantation education program, she told the Inner City Blacks to shut up and embrace their yokes. With dropout rates in the DemocRats Black ghetto running over 60% while spending is in the stratosphere she had the nerve to tell Blacks they dont want vouchers or need better schools through the forces of competition. Blacks who overwhelmingly vote for vouchers to get into the same private schools that Chelsea and the Kennedys go to, are being barred from these schools by Harpy clinton and the DNC just like Jim Crow days.
Vouchers will bring variety and competition to education. Monopolies have been proven over and over that they are inefficient and static. The suburbs have seen private and Christian schools which has kept the public schools honest. Schools such as my sons have a higher academic standard than public schools which will give him a leg up on getting into better colleges as well as being more prepared to succeed. Even though these schools represent 10% of the students the public schools are aware and this forces them push their standards for fear of losing students.
The Inner City is the last place good teachers want to teach often being the training ground for new teachers looking for the first road out. These schools have nothing more than the Public Dumping Ground with the eventual drop outs followed by the cycle of hopelessness. When there is no hope or future then decisions of crime and jail are not as difficult or threatening. Lives inside the City are spinning out of control and all Harpy has to offer is more status quo. Just keep pouring money in this DNC boondoggle since the slaves are bought lock stock and over a barrel. This is one of the most corrupt sources of Union graft in the Country making Enron seems like childs play. With friends like The Missus or the NEA who needs the KKK???
Harpy gave the reason for not trying vouchers is that just as there are Catholic, Jewish and Secular schools there would all of the sudden be White Supremists and Jihad schools. If they were in the same district you would have the Klan vs the Suicide Bombers in a FB game. When she said Jihadist school she meant Islam Wahabi, but that would be Politically Incorrect for a lib. Who knows, maybe in her angry hatefilled mind White Supremists and Jihadist are the same White Wing Christians.
You have to dig pretty hard to find a more ridiculous argument. She hasnt the slightest clue how the free market works. Does she really think that Blacks would join the White Supremist school or that parents would want their kids to go to a Wahabi school? Who in their right mind would invest in either of those schools in America? Where you going to get teachers to teach? This is as absurd as it gets. The NEA should ask for their money back for this chalkboard chalk squeek.
Ignore the fact that this was as bad a screech that she has given with its meandering nonsense, the basic message really explains why the DNC is a wolf in Black Sheeps Clothing. She was telling Coloreds that she will happily throw them down the elevator shaft for NEA money. She will sing the old tired Bolshevik tune while Black youtes sing da blues on their way to prison. How foolish can one group be? For the supposedly smartest woman in America, this argument is idiocy.
The bottom line is that the NEA has become vicious attack dogs between what Blacks want and the DinocRat candidates. They have to convince Blacks that these failed schools are better than a private school and that dog wont hunt. As Blacks move into the middle class and away from the Plantation they see this argument along with abortion etc and are moving towards the Republican Party. You will never find it in polls or the Stone Age Press but the Rats are hemorrhaging Blacks like a severed carotid artery. So they stick this bandage on the wound and hope it holds. Only time will tell if Blacks care more about their children than they do about the Stalinist Plantation.
Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighters
Wrong answer Fred. Which means you still have federal government involvement.
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/education/
That was the AUTHOR’S opinion.
Not Fred’s statement.
Freddie won this debate with wit, intelligence and leadership.
Oh, and he kicked ass.
yeah he did. I hope he takes Iowa
Actual stance, not opinion.
When is it being rebroadcast?
Well, finally an issue Thompson is wrong about:
The biggest impediment to improving American K-12 education is not the NEA, but the monopoly almost all of the several states have given to Colleges of Education to produce teachers. (Remember ed majors? 85% of them are ditzes who picked the major because it was the easiest major in the catalog. We, through our state legislatures, have given them a monopoly on teaching our children.)
Fortunately, the one issue on which he’s wrong is an issue for the several states, not the federal government to fix, and as a thoroughly commited federalist, Thompson knows this.
(Full disclosure: I’m a ‘Fredhead’. He’s the first candidate since Reagan I’ve given money in support of.)
presumably...an operative word here...which gives meaning that the author was presumptive.
Have to watch out for those words.
I’ve heard start times from 9 to 10 and C-SPAN or C-SPAN2, so I guess all I can say is “check local listings.”
;O)
From the link YOU provided:
States ought to be allowed to experiment and do the things that they know best at the state and local level.
The federal role in education is too intrusive and too bureaucratic, and has become part of the problem. State and local governments are closest to the parents, the kids, and the schools, and best situated to implement changes and innovations that best educate children. I am committed to:
* Giving parents more choices in education and schools less bureaucracy.
* Reviewing federal programs for cost-effectiveness, reducing federal mandates, returning education money to the states, and empowering parents by promoting voucher programs, charter schools, and other innovations that enhance education excellence through competition and choice.
* Encouraging students and teachers to pursue careers in science, technology, engineering, and math—fields that are crucial to our security, competitiveness, and prosperity.
* Promoting transparency to assess performance, promote accountability, and share innovations in education at all levels.
I agree with you. There is no logical reason why a person with a master’s degree in math or engineering is not qualified to teach students math but an education graduate is.
Ditto for science, computers etc.
Our students are being taught by people who have no real world experience in the subjects they are teaching.
the nea cares about educating children as much as islamio fascists care about peace.
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