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Boybashing in Abstinence Education
GlennSacks.com ^ | 12-18-07 | Glenn Sacks

Posted on 12/19/2007 10:05:39 AM PST by PercivalWalks

Lead Feministing blogger Jessica Valenti, author of Full Frontal Feminism: A Young Woman's Guide to Why Feminism Matters, criticizes Abstinence Education in her recent blog post Abstinence-only Education: What we're missing. She makes some valid points, but what most interested me was her citing a 2004 Ms. Magazine article called Virgin Territory--Ms. goes to an abstinence conference and learns that it pays to be chaste. According to the article:

"Your body is a wrapped lollipop.

"When you have sex with a man, he unwraps your lollipop and sucks on it.

"It may feel great at the time, but, unfortunately, when he’s done with you, all you have left for your next partner is a poorly wrapped, saliva-fouled sucker.

"These words were actually uttered by Darren Washington, an abstinence educator, at the Eighth Annual Abstinence Clearinghouse Conference, an informational three-day trade show for abstinence educators, anti-abortion pregnancy care centers and medical professionals.

"Washington was giving examples of how to teach abstinence. He then called up volunteers from the audience and used an actual lollipop to help deliver the metaphor."

In other words, females are pure and good, until they're defiled and ruined by filthy males and their base, animal desires. What a nice message for my teenage son--and yours. And it's not the feminists who are pushing this stuff--it's conservatives.

Glenn Sacks, www.GlennSacks.com


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: abstinence; antiabstinence; feminazism; feminism; misandry; savethemales; sexism; sexpositiveagenda
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1 posted on 12/19/2007 10:05:41 AM PST by PercivalWalks
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To: PercivalWalks

I’m guessing there are some here on FR, that would agree with Washington...


2 posted on 12/19/2007 10:10:13 AM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: PercivalWalks

The feminist movement preaches the sex positive agenda. They are anti-absinence. Rather than instill self-worth in teenaged girls, they push for sexual “liberation”. Free love isn’t free.

Ending the moral judgements over all sexual pairings regardless of sex, age, relation, marital status, number, or species of partner(s) will not make the women any less “oppressed”.


3 posted on 12/19/2007 10:13:49 AM PST by weegee (If Bill Clinton can sit in on Hillary's Cabinet Meetings then GWBush should ask to get to sit in too)
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To: PercivalWalks

Let’s really blow a feminist fuse and tell them the truth: You shouldn’t have premarital sex because God says so.


4 posted on 12/19/2007 10:23:35 AM PST by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: PercivalWalks
Glenn Sacks, once again in the throes of an attack of the vapors. Pull in the quivering lower lip, Glenn -- the comment is essentially true.

Boys are only looking for one thing in a girl....

Abstinence is ultimately up to the girl.

5 posted on 12/19/2007 10:28:21 AM PST by r9etb
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To: PercivalWalks
Rather crude, and not quite how I'd want to present it, but I don't see this as male-bashing. I don't really have a whole lot of heartburn over this representation of the importance of purity.

I guess I'm a troglodyte.

6 posted on 12/19/2007 10:28:48 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agamemnon dead.)
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To: weegee
Ending the moral judgements over all sexual pairings regardless of sex, age, relation, marital status, number, or species of partner(s) will not make the women any less “oppressed.

Well, that is what liberals think; by ending moral judgments, woman can be easy and thus end their oppression. Its a notion absolutely ridiculous on its face.

One, you are not going to change men's mind; if you are a whore, your a whore. Now what can you say when your a whore? In the end, men dont want to stay with whores. No apologies, but I have to be that blunt.

Now if you were also to follow the liberal mentality, what kind of consequences are there? There tons from biological, physical, psycological, and emotional that are not even really discussed in any serious matter when teaching sex ed. It cheats our young women of the truth and I have too many women friends who are casualties.

7 posted on 12/19/2007 10:37:45 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: stuartcr

I used the duct tape example. Rub a strip of duct tape on the forearm and describe how sexual intimacy is intended to bind you to someone. And when that bond is broken (rip off tape) it hurts! And when you try again with someone else (re-apply tape here), the bond isn’t so strong anymore (pull off the tape). Pretty soon, there is nothing about it that sticks much anymore.


8 posted on 12/19/2007 10:42:11 AM PST by trimom
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To: trimom

Excellent


9 posted on 12/19/2007 10:58:45 AM PST by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: stuartcr
Joe Cromagnon man here. Abstinence is for both males and females. It takes 2 people to copulate. If either or both say no, lets wait or better yet wait till they are married all the better. It is high time that MORALS were instilled back into society. Being raised old school south where it was “impolite” to sleep with a woman you were not affianced to I practiced abstinence in the 70’s. If you don't think that was tough or that I wasn’t the object of ridicule think again. I was taught that it was morally objectionable to “sleep around like an alley cat in heat.” I guess I took it to heart. I am currently married to my second wife but can swear to what ever god you want on whatever holy book you want I was faithful to my wife then as I am now. It IS all about how children are raised. It is not about “Bashing boys” or promiscuity of females. It IS about instilling our children with a sense of HONOR, the COURAGE to see the right path and take it, The RESPONSIBILITY to speak up for their actions and finally FAITH in GOD.
It is time and Past time to take responsibility for our actions and our children and our duty to our children and rise them correctly without looking to “experts” and looking for others to blame for mistakes we make. We cannot expect the public schools to raise our children correctly nor can we reasonably expect anyone else other than ourselves to have our children's best interests at heart.
It sickens me to death to listen to supposed “experts” spout truths that ere valid over 40 years ago as if they are brand new......
10 posted on 12/19/2007 11:00:38 AM PST by SouthernBoyupNorth ("For my wings are made of Tungsten, my flesh of glass and steel..........")
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To: PercivalWalks
Men should teach their sons that the woman is the weaker vessel and easily deceived (Eve was deceived and Adam listened to her). They should tell their sons not to take advantage of it even if the girl is throwing herself at you.

A major problem I had growing up was I was taught that we were equal so I tried for it and gave them the benefit to reject me if they were not interested. I also took what some would offer figuring they knew what they were doing. That was not right.

11 posted on 12/19/2007 11:02:15 AM PST by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: trimom

excellent, and the example applies regardless of your gender.


12 posted on 12/19/2007 11:02:50 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: Greg F

How about telling them that it’ll lead to exploitation and shame and that birth control will affect naturally occuring hormonal changes during puberty that are supposed to prepare them for the rest of their lives?

And mention that abortion is murder, whether they are capable of bringing a child into this world or not.


13 posted on 12/19/2007 11:03:57 AM PST by weegee (If Bill Clinton can sit in on Hillary's Cabinet Meetings then GWBush should ask to get to sit in too)
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To: weegee

Ok. Let’s tell them that too!


14 posted on 12/19/2007 11:07:19 AM PST by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: PercivalWalks

Oh please.

Bottom line, better if everyone is chaste.

Too bad feminists didn’t figure this out much earlier, rather than becoming sex-obsessed themselves.


15 posted on 12/19/2007 11:09:52 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: weegee

They should be told that ultimately “sex” is about children. It brings them into the world; that is its purpose, solely.

For all the birth control, even if you are successful and never conceive with it, you will likely retain “emotional scars” if you will, that will trickle down and affect your actual legitimate children in some subtle way. Such as, pining for the time you screwed so&so instead of their father/mother. A kind of temptation. Or even, just a huge sense of guilt that is “baggage”.

Better to avoid any of those possible scenarios altogether.


16 posted on 12/19/2007 11:17:17 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
that is its purpose, solely.

Sorry, you entry requires your notice of my tagline...

17 posted on 12/19/2007 11:27:49 AM PST by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: jonno

you - your - you know what I mean...
8^)


18 posted on 12/19/2007 11:28:57 AM PST by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: trimom

Some would suggest using new tape.


19 posted on 12/19/2007 11:32:50 AM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: jonno

It IS its purpose. Period. Not an opinion.

We love eating because we have to be attracted to food which keeps us alive. That is the purpose of taste buds and the pleasure from them. Fact, period. Same with sex.


20 posted on 12/19/2007 11:44:10 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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