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Is Fox News Blackballing Fred Thompson?
race42008.com ^ | 12=26=07

Posted on 12/27/2007 10:48:17 AM PST by rightinthemiddle

Is Fox News blackballing Fred Thompson?

Anyone wonder why Fox News Channel rarely mentions the GOP candidate Rush Limbaugh dubbed the only conservative on the stage after one of the ubiquitous “debates.” Wonder why the so called conservative news channel is seemingly so out of step with the leader of the conservative movement?

Undoubtedly many of the DC-NY-Boston conservative pundits/talk show hosts understandably appreciate the job Rudy Giuliani did in making their home and workplaces in NYC liveable. It is understandable that they would like to see one of “their own” carry the GOP banner rather than another Southerner.

But could their be more to the story?

GOP pollster Frank Luntz, famous for the focus group “meter”, admitted effusive praise and gratitude for FNC allowing (hiring) him to appear after every debate, in his Christmas Day appearance on C-Span’s Washington Journal, after one of Redstate’s finest elicited a very revealing response earlier in the program.

The “pilgrim meter” begins at 1:47:30 of the Frank Luntz appearance on the Washington Journal Entire Program (December 25, 2007).

Pilgrim, a regular blogger on Redstate, identified himself as a “leave me the hell alone” Fred Thompson supporter who approves of Fred’s “thumbing his nose at the Washington insiders” campaign that is more focused on internet substance pieces and local press.

Luntz’s nods showed he agreed, but the nod came to an abrupt halt when it appeared pilgrim’s analysis might hit too close to home.

Luntz says Fred’s poor poll numbers are due to one thing. No, not his late entry. No, not the laziness myth. And no, not his age or “trophy wife.”

The reason Fred is behind in Iowa is because he went on Jay Leno’s show rather than appear at a New Hampshire debate on……FOX NEWS CHANNEL.

How petty of Fox.

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Yes, I think they are...and I'm a FoxFan.
1 posted on 12/27/2007 10:48:22 AM PST by rightinthemiddle
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To: jellybean; Politicalmom

ping


2 posted on 12/27/2007 10:48:52 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (Guess what? I'm voting for the Conservative.)
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To: rightinthemiddle
YES!
3 posted on 12/27/2007 10:50:49 AM PST by BreezyDog
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To: rightinthemiddle
In this regard, FNC is as bad as the rest. Thompson doesn't and won't dance to their tune, and they don't like it.

It's in their own self-interest to destroy Thompson -- if he can show that a candidate doesn't have to play by the media's rules to win, then many of them are exposed as the pointless wanna-be-gatekeepers that they are.

4 posted on 12/27/2007 10:52:00 AM PST by kevkrom (All those in favor of Thompson, don't raise your hand.)
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To: rightinthemiddle

Yep. They are the Rino network plan and simple.


5 posted on 12/27/2007 10:52:01 AM PST by commonguymd (Move it to the right -Vote for Fred! Filler' up at www.fred08.com!)
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To: rightinthemiddle

I don’t think you can blame Fox when you don’t make a great number of appearances even after entering the race late.


6 posted on 12/27/2007 11:06:35 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: commonguymd

This just in from Fox...but no coverage of Fred:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1944804/posts


7 posted on 12/27/2007 11:06:52 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (Guess what? I'm voting for the Conservative.)
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To: rightinthemiddle

The more I see Fox, the more it reminds me of all the others.


8 posted on 12/27/2007 11:06:58 AM PST by Rick_Michael (The Anti-Federalists failed....so will the Anti-Frederalists)
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To: rightinthemiddle
If Brit & The Boys denounced Thompson's candidacy on matters of substance, such as having records that clearly confirm nanny-state anti-conservative tendencies (Romney, Giuliani, Huckabee), or of having betrayed Republicans in the past (McCain, Gang of 14), failing to muster more than low single digits in polls (Hunter, sadly), then I could totally respect it.

But the ONLY things they have against Thompson is the totally empty and emotional charge of "laziness." That's it. Thompson consistently polls well within the MOE of Romney, Huck, and McCain. Fred Thompson's record mostly upholds a consistent performance on what he says he believes, whereas Romney's record proves that he has NOT been what he says he is now. Giuliani has said himself that he's not that different from Hillary on many issues. McCain's record is spotty at best, indicative of mental instability at worst. Huckabee's record reveals a frighteningly intrusive nanny-stater. But Brit and his gang stupidly turn their backs on Fred Thompson, deceiving themselves and their viewers in the process. They are traitors to the Fourth Estate.

Brit Hume used to be somebody I respected a lot. Today, he's just another talking head.

9 posted on 12/27/2007 11:09:19 AM PST by Finny (There are many enemies in our work. One of them is envy. -- A British naval officer)
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To: Red in Blue PA
I don’t think you can blame Fox when you don’t make a great number of appearances even after entering the race late.

That's a myth -- Thompson has had as many, if not more, public appearances than the other GOP candidates. One study from back in November, before the big Iowa push, had him 2nd to McCain in number of appearances.

10 posted on 12/27/2007 11:09:21 AM PST by kevkrom (All those in favor of Thompson, don't raise your hand.)
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To: kevkrom

Awhile back I heard numbers and Thompson was at the back of the pack for appearances. Granted, it has been a month or two since I heard that, but they were raw numbers and nothing to argue with.


11 posted on 12/27/2007 11:15:13 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: Rick_Michael

You’ve got to be joking.


12 posted on 12/27/2007 11:15:47 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Well, clearly that's changed. As I said, in a period covering most of November, he was second only to McCain on the GOP side. Right now he's doing 4-a-days out in Iowa.

Just because Fox doesn't want to acknowledge him doesn't mean he isn't out there doing what it takes. Thompson is meeting with local voters and talking to local press out in Iowa, and the NYC/Beltway crowd can go suck eggs as far as I care.

13 posted on 12/27/2007 11:18:02 AM PST by kevkrom (All those in favor of Thompson, don't raise your hand.)
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To: rightinthemiddle

Probably not, or this interview and report would not have happened:

Fred Thompson on Benazir Bhutto assassination (Fox Interview)
Fred08 ^ | December 27, 2007

Posted on 12/27/2007 11:14:53 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

HARRIS FAULKNER : Senator, your reaction, first, to the assassination of Benazir Bhutto.

FRED THOMPSON : It is a tragedy, of course. It reminds us that things can happen in faraway places of the world that can affect the United States. I think this should be of great concern to us. It is almost a perfect storm in a very bad sense because two forces are operating against each other that are both desirable. One is democracy: they were making progress in that regard in that country. Former prime minister Bhutto was an important part of that process. But the other is stability. Pakistan is a nuclear country, and we cannot afford to let nukes fall into the hands of dangerous Muslim radicals. We are hoping those two things can be balanced out. We can see the continued progress toward a democratic society but also maintain stability in the country, which seems to be very much in doubt right now.

FAULKNER: I know you are running for the White House, so I don’t want to put you in a position to second guess the president. But I’m interested in your opinion. President Bush is due to talk with Pervez Musharraf shortly. What do you anticipate that conversation should be like?

THOMPSON: Those two things that I mention probably would be high on the agenda. What could be done to not impose martial law, to not crack down, but be mindful of the fact that there are radical elements in that country, and perhaps even within the government, that would like to see instability and chaos and see those weapons fall into the wrong hands. This is part of a bigger problem. We need to understand that this is not a criminal investigation any more - so we find the bad guys and bring them to justice - it’s a war.

This proves again the mindset of the radical elements that we are dealing with. We are seeing this all across Northern Africa and various places. We’re seeing it across the Middle East and in parts of Asia including Indonesia and other places. We have to come to terms with that and do the things necessary to prevail. One of the things we need to be talking about is what Musharraf can do, additionally, to crack down on the Taliban. I think they have been insufficient in that respect.

FAULKNER : Taliban also supporters of al Qaeda in that country. Pakistan has been an important ally in the war on terror, so have do you walk that line?

THOMPSON: You just walk it. No one said it has been easy and simple. Pakistan has never been easy or simple. I had a chance a few years ago to talk to Musharraf before things got quite as complex as they are now. But it has always been an important part of the world. They’re next door to India. They’ve had a crisis after crisis with regard to them. They’re next door to Afghanistan, and they’re important to us. They’ve been helpful to us. But we’ re going to have to walk that line between democracy on the one hand and stability on the other. But I think it’s possible.


14 posted on 12/27/2007 11:22:57 AM PST by Grampa Dave ("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!"- Jim Robinson, Sept, 30, 2007)
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To: rightinthemiddle

The blackballing isn’t absolute, but it is happening.


15 posted on 12/27/2007 11:25:39 AM PST by Petronski (Willard Myth Romney: 47% negatives)
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To: rightinthemiddle
I could be wrong, but seems Fred has avoided appearing on at least some of the shows. Bill O’Reilly said he wanted to have Fred on but Fred has shown no interest.
16 posted on 12/27/2007 11:26:16 AM PST by Dante3
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To: rightinthemiddle

I can’t see how ANYONE could stand FoxNews. More tabloidesque crap from the Merde-och family...


17 posted on 12/27/2007 11:26:43 AM PST by Clemenza (I NO Heart Huckabee)
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To: rightinthemiddle
"Yes, I think they are..."

I think that FNC is little different from the other networks - a bunch of elites who want to nail down control of the presidency. If Hillary isn't elected, then Rudy will do nicely, since the result will be the same. They may favor Rudy over her because they know him better, but Hillary will get the job done for them if he fails to win the election.

18 posted on 12/27/2007 11:34:22 AM PST by penowa
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To: rightinthemiddle

Wonder why folks don’t give a....


19 posted on 12/27/2007 11:35:31 AM PST by dakine
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To: rightinthemiddle
Yes, I think they are...and I'm a FoxFan.

I KNOW they are. It's been clear from the beginning.

20 posted on 12/27/2007 11:36:34 AM PST by Route66 (America's Main Street - - - Fred D. Thompson / Consistent Conservative...The One with Gravitas)
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To: rightinthemiddle

Aside from Fox News having a strong bias for Giuliani, they don’t like conservatism.

Hence, they don’t like Fred!


21 posted on 12/27/2007 11:38:04 AM PST by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Red in Blue PA
I don’t think you can blame Fox when you don’t make a great number of appearances even after entering the race late.

Could you give us a breakdown showing number of appearances actually made by the candidates? Along with the threshold of what you consider to be acceptable?

22 posted on 12/27/2007 2:00:14 PM PST by rhinohunter (Thompson/Steele '08)
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To: rightinthemiddle

Fox news have a preference for the Giuliani and Mccain campaigns, that seems obvious from their news coverage.


23 posted on 12/27/2007 2:03:53 PM PST by GregH
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To: rightinthemiddle
Yes.
24 posted on 12/27/2007 2:04:55 PM PST by Yaelle (Fred Thompson is the only intelligent choice for conservatives.)
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To: rightinthemiddle

“NYC liveable”?


Since when?


25 posted on 12/27/2007 2:07:34 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Well, I guess a swamp is better than a cesspool.


26 posted on 12/27/2007 2:08:36 PM PST by rightinthemiddle (Guess what? I'm voting for the Conservative. Fred.)
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To: rightinthemiddle

I do believe you are right, FNC seems bent on torpedoing Fred. Or should I say, not covering him fairly.


27 posted on 12/27/2007 2:09:52 PM PST by Tarpon (Ignorance, the most expensive commodity produced by mankind.)
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To: Petronski
The blackballing isn’t absolute, but it is happening.

Well said.

Virtually every story or discussion on FOX about the POTUS campaign leaves a fairly strong "Rudy" conveyance.

28 posted on 12/27/2007 2:11:18 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: rightinthemiddle

Swamps are the cradle of life. I can’t understand your outlook, maybe you need to visit a real swamp.


29 posted on 12/27/2007 2:28:37 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Ah, but I have...I still have a strange fungus that crops up on my feet.

My favorite “Survivorman” is the Georgia swamp episode.

I salute your Swamp, wherever it may be.


30 posted on 12/27/2007 2:32:19 PM PST by rightinthemiddle (Guess what? I'm voting for the Conservative. Fred.)
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31 posted on 12/27/2007 2:51:31 PM PST by Politicalmom (Huckabee’s foreign policy experience consists of eating at the International House of Pancakes.)
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To: Politicalmom
FRED Country is just the right terminology. The MSM, which now includes FoxNews, will all have to eat their words when FRED wins in Iowa (going around the MSM directly to the People).

FRED THOMPSON - NATIONAL SECURITY EXPERT (I’ll protect the American people and American values, whatever it takes to stop the Islamic-Fascists including water-boarding) - 2ND AMENDMENT ADVOCATE (arming the People to disarm criminals) – INCREASE THE MILITARY’S STRENGTH AND SIZE (giving those brave men and women a Commander in Chief to be proud of) - SECURE AND SEAL THE BORDERS (don’t give sanctuary anywhere to illegal’s, don’t employ illegal’s, don’t rent to illegal’s, don’t extend credit to illegal’s, don’t give illegal’s rights they don’t deserve, report all crimes committed by illegal’s and deport those illegal’s who have already committed crimes against America) - LAW AND ORDER (enforcement first and foremost with laws currently on the books) – DENY FEDERAL DOLLARS TO SANCTUARY CITIES (enough is enough) – CONSERVATIVE JUSTICES FOR SUPREMES (those who will interpret the law, not create rights that do not exist) – PRO-LIFE ADVOCATE (nominate superior Constitutional Justices to overturn Roe vs Wade) - SOCIAL SECURITY REFORMER (reform a broken program that can’t sustain itself and will bankrupt future generations, with the added benefit of private savings accounts) - DEFEAT ANY DEMOCRAT AND RINO (any fool DemocRATS put up) – TAX SIMPLIFICATION (variety of choice for the tax payer) - WON’T PUT UP WITH CRAP FROM THE MSM (including stupid questions by moderators and pundits) - “WE THE PEOPLE” CANDIDATE (We the People asked him to run and he stepped up) - PING!

32 posted on 12/27/2007 2:57:55 PM PST by Bobbisox (ALL AMERICAN GRANDMA FREEPER FredHEAD! The Hunt for a FRED November is on! Don't be fooled!)
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To: rightinthemiddle

Another one blackballing Fred is Yahoo.

I get other candidate emails no problem, but recently all of Fred08 emails go to junk mail.

I can get around it but I wonder how many people are just missing his campaign news, updates, and requests....


33 posted on 12/27/2007 3:06:07 PM PST by commonguymd (Move it to the right -Vote for Fred! Filler' up at www.fred08.com!)
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To: rightinthemiddle

Fox news will never tell me how to think, although that’s what they want to do. Frank Luntz will never tell me how to think, although that’s what he wants to do.

Last night Dick Morris slipped when commenting on Fred Thompson. He did so while distracted, unbeknownst to him, from Fox’s not-so-secret boycott of Fred Thompson. He was talking about whether or not hard campaigning has paid off for Romney (or was it Huckabee?). Point is, he forgot that part of the media’s strategy is to paint Fred Thompson as lazy, and he said Thompson had been “campaigning hard.”


34 posted on 12/27/2007 3:16:14 PM PST by reasonisfaith (A liberal will never stand up like a man and admit his true beliefs)
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To: rightinthemiddle

Long ago I was a Fox fan. Boy how things change. Question is, how low will their ratings go when we in the blogosphere are finished broadcasting their secret little cockeyed plan to boycott Fred Thompson.

Same goes for Pat Buchanan on PMSNBC. Pat wants Hillary to be president so bad he’s about to wet his pants.


35 posted on 12/27/2007 3:19:46 PM PST by reasonisfaith (A liberal will never stand up like a man and admit his true beliefs)
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To: commonguymd

I use yahoo email myself, and I’ve had no problem getting his messages. Sure you didn’t accidentally put his email in your spam filter?


36 posted on 12/27/2007 3:22:59 PM PST by clilly54
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To: rightinthemiddle

The liberals (and those who fall into unrecognizable categories, like Pat Buchanan and Fred Barnes) are so scared of Fred Thompson they can hardly see straight. The plan is to pump McCain, hoping desperately that he will rake in some of the growing number of Huckabee deserters. What a joke.


37 posted on 12/27/2007 3:33:23 PM PST by reasonisfaith (A liberal will never stand up like a man and admit his true beliefs)
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To: clilly54

nope, but I use thier pay for play service. I have no blocked email addresses whatsover because I generally clear those out because you only get 500 and most spammers don’t reuse. It it yahoo’s bulk mail filter that is blocking Fred08 messages.


38 posted on 12/27/2007 3:35:47 PM PST by commonguymd (Move it to the right -Vote for Fred! Filler' up at www.fred08.com!)
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To: commonguymd; OKSooner

It just began happening to me today.....I checked my junk folder and several messaged from Fred08 were there. I may have to reconsider my internet provider.


39 posted on 12/27/2007 3:38:59 PM PST by Honeybunch ("Words are, of course, the most powerful drug used by mankind." ~Rudyard Kipling)
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To: rightinthemiddle

Yes!


40 posted on 12/27/2007 3:48:24 PM PST by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: rightinthemiddle
Yes.
...and Murdoch's successor, (a algore flamin' liberal) son....MAY HAVE his "fingerprints" all over this.....I wonder, at who's request......she whom must not be name.
41 posted on 12/27/2007 4:14:48 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (just b/c your paranoid, doesn't mean they're NOT out to get you....Run, FRed, Run. :^)
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To: Honeybunch

I went and checked my bulk mail box and a message from Lacy was there. Could be it got kicked in to spam because they’ve been really sending out a lot trying to raise money for the Iowa ads, or some people no longer supporting Fred flagged Lacy’s messages as spam, don’t know. You can mark as “not spam” and they will come through again. Will watch over the next few days and see if it’s a pattern, because if it is, yahoo is looking at a lawsuit.


42 posted on 12/27/2007 4:14:50 PM PST by clilly54
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To: Grampa Dave
Was that the whole interview? Regardless, what he provided was thoughtful and on the mark AFAIC, Fred gets it!
43 posted on 12/27/2007 4:36:56 PM PST by AFreeBird
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To: clilly54

Notified the Fred campaign about this.

Yahoo and the MSM workin hard to put a democrat in office.


44 posted on 12/27/2007 4:41:05 PM PST by commonguymd (Move it to the right -Vote for Fred! Filler' up at www.fred08.com!)
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To: Dante3
Maybe he's boycotting BO'R because BO'R is a gasbag (I never watch him). Or maybe Fred's a FReeper, and didn't like BO'R calling us racists, hate mongers, or whatever the hell derogatory and unjustified categorization(s) he used.

I think he would probably sit down with Brit. And I think he's done some Hannity, but not with Colmes. I would love to see him smack down Colmes.

The MSM, all of them, are trying to stay away from, and discount Fred for all their worth. He won't be their trained seal, and that scares them.

45 posted on 12/27/2007 4:42:27 PM PST by AFreeBird
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To: commonguymd

I just filed a complaint with Yahoo tech support, saying others are having the same problem, and that it has also been reported to the Fred campaign. Interesting to see their response. It had better have been accidental.


46 posted on 12/27/2007 4:57:07 PM PST by clilly54
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To: rightinthemiddle

Exactly and I would really like to know both whose policy it is and why. Something has really changed in the definition of “fair and balanced”; “we report, YOU decide”.


47 posted on 12/27/2007 5:04:56 PM PST by ImpBill ("America ... Where are you now?" --Greg Adams--Brownsville, TX --On the other Front Line)
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To: Red in Blue PA
I don’t think you can blame Fox when you don’t make a great number of appearances even after entering the race late.

Care to give us his appearance stats compared to the other GOP candidates? Or is this just a MSM myth?

48 posted on 12/27/2007 5:59:24 PM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (“Sincerity is everything. If you can fake that, you’ve got it made.”)
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To: rightinthemiddle

The talking heads hate Thompson...he wont kiss their rings. Most are Rudybots or Romney shills.


49 posted on 12/27/2007 6:16:01 PM PST by DesScorp
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To: rightinthemiddle
Freds new funding push is over $130,000 which is over 50% of the the target of $258,000 required for the new Iowa AD required by midnight tomorrow.

All Fred Heads need to donate now.

DONATE TO FRED

50 posted on 12/27/2007 6:30:42 PM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (“Sincerity is everything. If you can fake that, you’ve got it made.”)
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