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Tree of Liberty ^ | January 13, 2008 | CarpiJugulum

Posted on 01/13/2008 10:55:44 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

The new year is only a couple of weeks old. This is 2008 an election year, yet the MSM is already calling it over for several candidates. Among them Fred Thompson.

Why are they calling for him to drop out? It's because of his message. The only candidate that does not seem to have special interest backers or a huge war chest. One that speaks more common sense then the others and is smarter than the others.

Fred did not spend 2007 stomping the nation drumming up delegates. This is the reason the MSM and many so-called right/conservative pundits are against him. After a year of hub hub and blah blah, The real election campaigning begins and Fred came out swinging.

Going after Gov. Huckabee, and exposing many liberal progressive policies. Thompson is about to stir up the true conservatives. As the right wing extremists (called fox by the liberals) support Mitt, and Huck, along with McCain (Beltway Boys, Britt, Hannity, and Hugh Hewitt). They all say it's too late for Fred and he is fading fast. How can one fade when the race has only begun?

There are many more delegates to be one and I think Fred will get a good portion of these as he now begins to campaign. Will it be enough to stop the socialist in disguise, (the other republican nominees)? I am not sure but am hopeful.


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1 posted on 01/13/2008 10:55:45 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Why are they calling for him to drop out?”

Because they are libs, and that’s what libs do.

Just look at the two man dummy field of candidates.


2 posted on 01/13/2008 11:02:40 AM PST by papasmurf (I'm voting for FRed, even if I have to write him in.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hope and conviction founded on arguments are the best driving forces for victory...
Good point!
GO FRED the calm power


3 posted on 01/13/2008 11:16:38 AM PST by Ulysse
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To: jellybean; Politicalmom

Ping!


4 posted on 01/13/2008 12:00:32 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Your "dirt" on Fred is about as persuasive as a Nancy Pelosi Veteran's Day Speech)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

I don’t know about the MSM, but if Fred doesn’t does not have a resounding win in S.C. it is time for him to pull out. Even after his (according to FRedheads) fantastic debate performance here is where he stands today:

“The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Sunday shows Mike Huckabee is the only candidate within ten points nationally of John McCain in the race for the Republican Presidential Nomination. It’s McCain 24%, Mike Huckabee 19%, Mitt Romney 14%, Fred Thompson 12%, and Rudy Giuliani at 10%. Ron Paul attracts 2% support”

Fred go no “bounce” from his so-called “thumping” of Huckabee. He is essential where he was before the debate and has been for some time.

Thompson might pull off an upset and win S.C. However, if he doesn’t, and by at least 5%, he needs to get out. It is time for realty to set in.

It is shaping up to be a McCain/Huckabee ticket. The sooner the squabbling ends, the sooner folks can throw their loser tantrums and then realize this is better than anything the Dems will put forward.


5 posted on 01/13/2008 12:26:01 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Sola Veritas

Over my dead body..Go FRed!!!


6 posted on 01/13/2008 12:29:11 PM PST by GregB (President of the Tony Snow fan club in Clymer Penna!!!)
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To: Sola Veritas

Yes let us bring Huckabee and McCain into power. The bridge to liberalism. It wasn’t just Fredheads who thought Fred did great it was everyone in the room. We are going to win SC Carolina and by God I’d rather have Hillary in office than McCain and the Huckabee. If Republicans reject the only conservative in the race outside of Hunter then they will rue the day. We will stay home and send the HuckaChrist a message.

As for Polls. You tell half the story. There are huge numbers of undecideds.


7 posted on 01/13/2008 1:03:11 PM PST by Maelstorm (Same Fred Time, Same Fred Channel. www.fred08.com)
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To: Maelstorm

“....by God I’d rather have Hillary in office than McCain and the Huckabee. If Republicans reject the only conservative in the race outside of Hunter then they will rue the day. We will stay home and send the HuckaChrist a message.”

IF the final ticket is McCain/Huckabee, I think you will change your mind after you calm down and reflect on what you are saying. In the heat of battle is no time to make such pronouncements. Whatever, you have to do what you think best. You are a voter, and I can’t tell you what is right for you.

I do ask one favor though...don’t write things like “HuckaChrist” in your anger. If you want to put down Mike Huckabee, that is your right, but don’t use the Lord Jesus Christ in doing so. That is extremely offensive.


8 posted on 01/13/2008 1:20:09 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Sola Veritas

Well, I can see who you back. Might as well vote for a dem!


9 posted on 01/13/2008 2:05:41 PM PST by gbscott1954 (Go Fred Go!)
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To: Sola Veritas

“Thompson might pull off an upset and win S.C. However, if he doesn’t, and by at least 5%, he needs to get out. It is time for realty to set in.”

I feel sorry for the negative personality types. No vision.


10 posted on 01/13/2008 2:16:35 PM PST by Bizhvywt
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To: Sola Veritas; Politicalmom; ejonesie22; lesser_satan; papasmurf; All

McCain/Huckabee vs. Obama or Hillary? What a NIGHTMARE!
I will keep helping Fred until the convention, and I think I speak for many (maybe even the majority) here.


11 posted on 01/13/2008 3:56:16 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Your "dirt" on Fred is about as persuasive as a Nancy Pelosi Veteran's Day Speech)
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To: Sola Veritas

I’m trying really hard to see things from your perspective, but I can’t ssem to get my head that far up my ass.


12 posted on 01/13/2008 4:10:14 PM PST by lesser_satan (READ MY LIPS: NO NEW RINOS | FRED THOMPSON - DUNCAN HUNTER '08)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I don’t actually see a difference...
13 posted on 01/13/2008 4:12:12 PM PST by ejonesie22 (Mike Huckabee, Tithing via Taxation, the Christian Democrat way...)
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To: lesser_satan
Don’t try, you may inflict the same kind of damage...
14 posted on 01/13/2008 4:15:43 PM PST by ejonesie22 (Mike Huckabee, Tithing via Taxation, the Christian Democrat way...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“Over? Did you say “over”? Nothing is over until we decide it is!”

—Bluto

15 posted on 01/13/2008 4:18:24 PM PST by Samwise (Fred doesn't suffer fools or the media. Did I repeat myself?)
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To: lesser_satan

“I’m trying really hard to see things from your perspective, but I can’t ssem to get my head that far up my ass.”

That is probably because it is already in that unnatural location. I have spent alot of time in and around the military, and I have never seen the the sense of such disgusting rhetoric.


16 posted on 01/13/2008 5:05:51 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Samwise

“Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? No!”


17 posted on 01/13/2008 5:19:32 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Your "dirt" on Fred is about as persuasive as a Nancy Pelosi Veteran's Day Speech)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

“McCain/Huckabee vs. Obama or Hillary? What a NIGHTMARE!
I will keep helping Fred until the convention, and I think I speak for many (maybe even the majority) here.”

If Fred doesn’t do well in South Carolina, he needs to show some of that “class” he is supposed to possess and get out of the race. He is the one that declared South Carolina to the his “line in the sand.” If that line is crossed (he is beaten), he needs to get out.

The sooner he does this, the sooner is adherents can get over being mad and act rationally. No insult intended.


18 posted on 01/13/2008 5:25:05 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Sola Veritas

I’ll let him know that “Solo Veritas” has spoken. After he asks “Who the hell is Solo Veritas” what should I tell him?


19 posted on 01/13/2008 5:31:17 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Your "dirt" on Fred is about as persuasive as a Nancy Pelosi Veteran's Day Speech)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The DB MSM built up his entrance into the campaign so they no candidate could have met the expectations. They did it for the specific reason so they could later make a story out of FRED’s decline. The surge began in Iowa. FRED won 3rd which they all expected McCain to win, so they proceeding to not even mention FRED’s name. When they did, they said there was a tie for 3rd, some even lied and said FRED came in 4th.

The DB MSM fear FRED the most because they know that a coalition of social, financial, and national security Conservatives would beat any candidate they put up! The MSM is working overtime to destroy that coalition by their push of the RINO’s in the contest.

MICHIGAN AND SOUTH CAROLINA HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TURN THIS THING AROUND. KNOCK OFF McCAIN IN MICHIGAN AND HUCKABEE AND McCAIN IN SOUTH CAROLINA..

FRED THOMPSON - NATIONAL SECURITY EXPERIENCE (I’ll protect the American people and American values, whatever it takes to stop the Islamic-Fascists including water-boarding!) - 2ND AMENDMENT ADVOCATE (“Individual” rights to protect their homes and property!)

INCREASE THE MILITARY’S STRENGTH AND SIZE (Diplomacy through Strength and verification!)

SECURE AND SEAL THE BORDERS (Don’t give sanctuary anywhere to illegal’s; don’t employ illegal’s; don’t rent to illegal’s; don’t extend credit to illegal’s; don’t give illegal’s rights they have no right to; report all crimes committed by illegal’s to ICE and immediately deport those illegal’s who have already committed crimes against America!) LAW AND ORDER (Enforcement of our current laws regarding illegal immigration!) – DENY FEDERAL DOLLARS TO SANCTUARY CITIES (Enough is enough!)

CONSERVATIVE JUSTICES FOR SUPREMES (Great progress has been made on the Supreme Court in Bush’s term. FRED was asked by President Bush to spirit Justice Roberts through the confirmation process. The next President will probably have the opportunity to seat two additional Justices. This is huge folks. FRED will nominate Justices who will interpret the Constitution, not create rights that simply do not exist and legislate from the bench!) – PRO-LIFE ADVOCATE (will strive to nominate superior Justices with the eventual goal of overturning Roe vs Wade)

THOMPSON PLAN TO REDUCE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SPENDING (Check out his detailed plan to reduce Federal spending!)

SOCIAL SECURITY REFORMER (Social Security is an entitlement program that will soon overtake the budget. The program can’t sustain itself and will bankrupt future generations; FRED has detailed proposals to save Social Security and provide the added benefit of private savings accounts for younger workers!)

DEFEAT ANY DEMOCRAT OR RINO (Close your eyes and imagine the first debate between FRED THOMPSON and ANY liberal DemocRAT they put up?)

TAX SIMPLIFICATION (Reform and perhaps eliminate the IRS with a variety of choice for the tax payer!)

EDUCATION (Return education to the States. It is that simple. The NEA is the greatest enemy of our educational system!)

WON’T PUT UP WITH TRUTH MANIPULATION FROM THE DB-MSM (including stupid questions by liberal moderators, and “purchased” political pundits)

FRED THOMPSON IS THE “WE THE PEOPLE” CANDIDATE (We the People asked him to set aside his personal life and step up one more time for his Country…and he stepped up!)

THIRD IN IOWA, SECOND IN WYOMING (MSM still calling it a tie with McCain’s name in the lead…FoxNews won’t even mention his name if they can find a way to avoid it!)

TOTAL DELIGATES TO DATE: 6

WINNER OF SOUTH CAROLINA JANUARY 10, 2008 DEBATE – HANDS DOWN!!! (In lieu of the airtime FoxNews chose to give him…or not give him as the case may be. WE THE PEOPLE notice garbage like that!)

IT’S NOT TOO LATE FOR MICHIGAN OR SOUTH CAROLINA OR FLORIDA OR NEVADA. CONSERVATIVES MUST UNITE NOW! A CONSERVATIVE THOMPSON REVOLUTION! ALL ABOARD THE THOMPSON VICTORY EXPRESS!


20 posted on 01/13/2008 5:33:14 PM PST by Bobbisox (ALL AMERICAN FredHead FREEPER! [FRED ain't DEAD, ENOUGH SAID!])
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ll let him know that “Sola Veritas” has spoken. After he asks “Who the hell is Sola Veritas” what should I tell him?”

A concerned citizen of the United States.


21 posted on 01/13/2008 5:48:39 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Bizhvywt

“I feel sorry for the negative personality types. No vision.”

I worry about folks that won’t accept reality. Now by that I not saying you shouldn’t work you heart out to get your choice elected. Please, do so, support Fred, I admire your devotion.

However, there comes a time when you have to cut your losses and accept the inescapable. McCain or Huckabee are not the horrors that Guiliani would be and definitely not what a Clinto or Obama administration would be.


22 posted on 01/13/2008 5:56:18 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Bluto’s right. Psychotic, but absolutely right. We gotta take these bastards.”

;^)


23 posted on 01/13/2008 7:17:07 PM PST by Samwise (Fred doesn't suffer fools or the media. Did I repeat myself?)
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To: Sola Veritas
However, there comes a time when you have to cut your losses and accept the inescapable. McCain or Huckabee are not the horrors that Guiliani would be and definitely not what a Clinto or Obama administration would be.

LOL, wouldn't you just love it if we gave up that easily so McCain and the Dope from Hope, the biggest RINOs in the party, could coast right to the nomniation? It ain't gonna happen.

BTW, if either of them are nominated we won't line up behind them. We'll find a third party to vote for. I will never vote for McCain or Huckabee.

24 posted on 01/13/2008 7:23:53 PM PST by lesser_satan (READ MY LIPS: NO NEW RINOS | FRED THOMPSON - DUNCAN HUNTER '08)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I will keep helping Fred until the convention, and I think I speak for many (maybe even the majority) here.

You certainly have my permission to speak for me regarding Fred Thompson. I don't care what his numbers are in the polls when I vote here in Massachusetts...I'm voting for him in the Primary, regardless.

25 posted on 01/13/2008 7:24:54 PM PST by csense
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To: Sola Veritas
" I do ask one favor though...don’t write things like “HuckaChrist” in your anger. If you want to put down Mike Huckabee, that is your right, but don’t use the Lord Jesus Christ in doing so. That is extremely offensive."

It's a offense to Mike Hucabee to use the Lord's name in vain in a manipulative way to gain support and hide behind a supposed " Conservative " mask... when he is really a liberal in disguise.

Is is using the Lord's name in vain by Mike Huckabee to promote communism and socialism and at the same time claim he is a " Christian " ....
Ohh yeah ? did you know the NEA are atheists ? and Mike got the NEA endorsement.
Mike Huckabee is leading those poor deceived Christians, and have fooled them down the road to communism... just like the same way Jim Jones fooled those poor people in Jones Town......
26 posted on 01/13/2008 7:27:11 PM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: Sola Veritas

Why do you support Mike Huckabee who uses the Lord’s name in vain ? and uses God’s word the Bible in vain and for self promotion ?


27 posted on 01/13/2008 7:28:58 PM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: Maelstorm
We will stay home and send the HuckaChrist a message.

As someone else has already pointed out, could you please not do that.

Thank you

28 posted on 01/13/2008 7:33:43 PM PST by csense
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To: Sola Veritas
" A concerned citizen of the United States."

If your so much a concerned citizen of the United States, why then ? do you support a candidate who is the puppet of the Liberals/DNC in the GOP and a candidate who promotes communism and socialism ? why ? how can a Christian support communism and socialism ?
29 posted on 01/13/2008 7:34:07 PM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: Sola Veritas
" I worry about folks that won’t accept reality. Now by that I not saying you shouldn’t work you heart out to get your choice elected. Please, do so, support Fred, I admire your devotion."
" However, there comes a time when you have to cut your losses and accept the inescapable. McCain or Huckabee are not the horrors that Guiliani would be and definitely not what a Clinto or Obama administration would be."

Even Nehehiah had naysayers, Sanballat ( Sola Veritas ) .... enough of your naysaying....
30 posted on 01/13/2008 7:41:53 PM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: csense

I just listened to some Alex de Grassi and Pierre Bensusan at YouTube. FReepers teach me something new every day.


31 posted on 01/13/2008 7:42:46 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Your "dirt" on Fred is about as persuasive as a Nancy Pelosi Veteran's Day Speech)
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To: Sola Veritas
Nehemiah 4 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)

Nehemiah 4

1 But it came to pass, that when Sanballat heard that we builded the wall, he was wroth, and took great indignation, and mocked the Jews.

2 And he spake before his brethren and the army of Samaria, and said, What do these feeble Jews? will they fortify themselves? will they sacrifice? will they make an end in a day? will they revive the stones out of the heaps of the rubbish which are burned?

3 Now Tobiah the Ammonite was by him, and he said, Even that which they build, if a fox go up, he shall even break down their stone wall.

4 Hear, O our God; for we are despised: and turn their reproach upon their own head, and give them for a prey in the land of captivity:

5 And cover not their iniquity, and let not their sin be blotted out from before thee: for they have provoked thee to anger before the builders.

6 So built we the wall; and all the wall was joined together unto the half thereof: for the people had a mind to work.

7 But it came to pass, that when Sanballat, and Tobiah, and the Arabians, and the Ammonites, and the Ashdodites, heard that the walls of Jerusalem were made up, and that the breaches began to be stopped, then they were very wroth,

8 And conspired all of them together to come and to fight against Jerusalem, and to hinder it.

9 Nevertheless we made our prayer unto our God, and set a watch against them day and night, because of them.

10 And Judah said, The strength of the bearers of burdens is decayed, and there is much rubbish; so that we are not able to build the wall.

11 And our adversaries said, They shall not know, neither see, till we come in the midst among them, and slay them, and cause the work to cease.

12 And it came to pass, that when the Jews which dwelt by them came, they said unto us ten times, From all places whence ye shall return unto us they will be upon you.

13 Therefore set I in the lower places behind the wall, and on the higher places, I even set the people after their families with their swords, their spears, and their bows.

14 And I looked, and rose up, and said unto the nobles, and to the rulers, and to the rest of the people, Be not ye afraid of them: remember the LORD, which is great and terrible, and fight for your brethren, your sons, and your daughters, your wives, and your houses.

15 And it came to pass, when our enemies heard that it was known unto us, and God had brought their counsel to nought, that we returned all of us to the wall, every one unto his work.

16 And it came to pass from that time forth, that the half of my servants wrought in the work, and the other half of them held both the spears, the shields, and the bows, and the habergeons; and the rulers were behind all the house of Judah.

17 They which builded on the wall, and they that bare burdens, with those that laded, every one with one of his hands wrought in the work, and with the other hand held a weapon.

18 For the builders, every one had his sword girded by his side, and so builded. And he that sounded the trumpet was by me.

19 And I said unto the nobles, and to the rulers, and to the rest of the people, The work is great and large, and we are separated upon the wall, one far from another.

20 In what place therefore ye hear the sound of the trumpet, resort ye thither unto us: our God shall fight for us.

21 So we laboured in the work: and half of them held the spears from the rising of the morning till the stars appeared.

22 Likewise at the same time said I unto the people, Let every one with his servant lodge within Jerusalem, that in the night they may be a guard to us, and labour on the day.

23 So neither I, nor my brethren, nor my servants, nor the men of the guard which followed me, none of us put off our clothes, saving that every one put them off for washing.



Ok Sanballat, opps, I mean, Sola Veritas, you can go back to the DNC/MSM with your talking points and you can take your communist/socialist candidate with you.... ENOUGH !!! of your naysaying here......
32 posted on 01/13/2008 7:50:28 PM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I just listened to some Alex de Grassi and Pierre Bensusan at YouTube.

I had the pleasure of seeing Bensusan live a few years ago. He's coming back to the Boston area this year in the spring, and I hope to be there.

You know the old saying, if you were stuck on a desert island, and you could only take one of a certain item....well, for music it would be one of these two guys.

Both are phenomenal fingerstylists, and some consider Bensusan to be the very best, and I tend to agree with that. Some of his compositions simply leave you breathless.

FReepers teach me something new every day.

This place is great, isn't it :)

33 posted on 01/13/2008 8:43:49 PM PST by csense
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To: Prophet in the wilderness

“Ok Sanballat, opps, I mean, Sola Veritas, you can go back to the DNC/MSM with your talking points and you can take your communist/socialist candidate with you.... ENOUGH !!! of your naysaying here......”

Be careful what you say and write, and to whom, before you speak in hast. I’m not “Sanballat”, I’m may actually be more akin to Ezekiel in the 33rd Chapter of the Book bearing his name. Whatever, my friend, you are no John the Baptist, and you certainly are misusing scripture.


34 posted on 01/13/2008 9:29:27 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: lesser_satan

“BTW, if either of them are nominated we won’t line up behind them. We’ll find a third party to vote for. I will never vote for McCain or Huckabee.”

I think you will, once you get over being mad. I think common sense will prevail. However, you must do as you think is proper. Your right to vote is your’s to do with as you chose.


35 posted on 01/13/2008 9:35:55 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Sola Veritas
Sanballat was those naysayers who were trying to discourage Nehemiah from building the wall.
By the way ? ( Be careful what you say and write, and to whom, before you speak in hast. ) what does this mean ? who do you think who you are ? GOD ? are you making public threats here ?
36 posted on 01/13/2008 9:45:15 PM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: Sola Veritas
Are you a self promoted Prophet ?
So you say your a watch man ? did God appoint you ? or did you appoint yourself ?
37 posted on 01/13/2008 9:53:03 PM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: Sola Veritas
How can a Christian support a candidate who holds communist values as socialism ?
38 posted on 01/13/2008 9:54:12 PM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: Sola Veritas
" Whatever, my friend, you are no John the Baptist "
Assumptions , Assumptions.

The joke is on you..... my screen name is a tribute to my favorite prophet, Elijah.

And no, I was not misusing scripture, you are being like Sanballat.... trying to discourage the Fred Heads.... we know you got your talking points from the DNC/MSM.
39 posted on 01/13/2008 10:05:35 PM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness

“And no, I was not misusing scripture, you are being like Sanballat.... trying to discourage the Fred Heads....”

Fredheads are NOT the chosen people; no faction in any political party is; none - not even my own. So, you are abusing scripture to compare the rebuilding of the walls of Jerusalem to Fred Thompson’s campaign. The GOP is NO Jerusalem and Fred is no Nehamiah - and you are certainly no Elijah. The comparisons show you have zero understanding of scripture. It fact, you appear to have contempt for Holy Writ to abuse it so.

One more thing. It is an absolute lie to say I’m using MSM talking points - they are entirely my own. Any similarities between is conincidence. Other than internet, and I don’t put too much stock in what CNN, MSNBC, or FOX websites say. I don’t have TV in my home and hear very little of what the MSM says. I ONLY listen to a Christian radio station in my car and it has very little news - and that is from a Christian news company which doesn’t take sides. My conclusion are entirely my own based upon my analysis of the data I can glean from the more reputable pollsters like Rasmussen.

I could care less about discouraging Fred’s supporters from voting for him. They just need to be ready to have a Plan B when he flames out.


40 posted on 01/14/2008 6:39:54 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness

“Mike Huckabee is leading those poor deceived Christians, and have fooled them down the road to communism... just like the same way Jim Jones fooled those poor people in Jones Town......”

You are absolutely stark maving mad. You really need to be on an anti-psychotic medication.


41 posted on 01/14/2008 6:43:30 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Sola Veritas

Resorting to personal attacks, just like a liberal.


42 posted on 01/14/2008 6:48:17 PM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: Sola Veritas

And another thing ? THE LORD REBUKE YOU !!!!!


43 posted on 01/14/2008 6:48:50 PM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: Samwise

...”was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?...


44 posted on 01/14/2008 6:55:09 PM PST by Uriah_lost ("I don't apologize for the United States of America," -Fred D Thompson)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness

“And another thing ? THE LORD REBUKE YOU !!!!!”

There is another case where you assume authority from Jesus Christ that you don’t possess. You are reckless in your statements and don’t have any scriptural authority to be rebuking anyone.

Don’t be so presumptuous in invoking the Lord Jesus’ name to support your hurling of anathemas.

I don’t know where you learned your theology, but either they were wrong or you were not listening.

I fear God and trust Him, especially as He is manifested in God the Son, the Lord Jesus Christ. I would not dare hurl an anathema in His name at someone without real knowledge of the person; which you don’t possess. You strike me as a very foolish person. Be that as it may, I fear God not man - you don’t speak for God.


45 posted on 01/14/2008 6:59:47 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Sola Veritas

Plan “B” is that if there is a liberal RINO as our nominee, we either vote 3rd party or don’t vote at all in the general election. There’s nothing in it for us Conservatives, and if the GOP decides it doesn’t need us, it’ll start to do a perfect impersonation of the MA GOP. For another reference, see the Monty Python “Dead Parrot” skit.


46 posted on 01/14/2008 7:03:29 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: Sola Veritas
So you assume your a " WATCHMAN " for GOD ? did GOD anoint you and appoint you ? or did you appoint yourself ? .... No,,, it is YOU who do not have the authority to rebuke anyone.. if you are delusional to think you speak for GOD if you made yourself a prophet of GOD.
I don't care if you have a theological degree.
47 posted on 01/14/2008 7:07:55 PM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness

“Resorting to personal attacks, just like a liberal.”

No, I’m just making an observation. You really need to calm down. You are getting entirely too upset about things that don’t warrant it. I will apologize about the “anti-psychotic” remark though - that was also unwarranted.

You know, I don’t know what God has planned, I just know He is in control of the situation. I learned a long time ago that what God choses to do is not always what I think it should be, but it always turns out that, after the fact, I can see His hand in things. Maybe He does want Fred in office. If He does, man can’t thwart it...God can bend men to move anyway He choses. So, take comfort in that. God is in control, not me or you, but God.


48 posted on 01/14/2008 7:14:09 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Sola Veritas
Upset ? how can I be upset when I got my mind on the pain in my shoulder ?

49 posted on 01/14/2008 7:16:38 PM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness

“No,,, it is YOU who do not have the authority to rebuke anyone”

I did not rebuke you. It is you that keep hurling anathemas. Once again I encourage you to calm down.

And no, I do not consider myself a prophet; even remotely. The Ezekial passage was not a claim to authority. I’m suprized you don’t get the meaning. In truth, all Christians are called to be a watchman on the wall warning others. That warning of others has nothing to do with political matters, but only the spiritual condition of a soul before God.

Please don’t attempt to turn a political campaign into some religious war. You will only bring grief and shame on yourself...the same is equally true for me. Also, please be careful with labeling persons you don’t know. It is dangerous...I will take that advice for myself also.

Also, to be entirely up front, I do not possess a formal theological education. I am just well read on the subject.
However, my reading is strictly in the conservative evangelical school of thought (I’m a true Southern Baptist - not a Jimmy Carter or Bill Clinton).


50 posted on 01/14/2008 7:25:51 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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