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Mitt Romney and the truth (Willard caught lying -- again)
Cape Code Today ^ | 1/26/08 (well, not really-I was kidding) 1/19/08 | Dan Kennedy

Posted on 01/26/2008 10:25:06 AM PST by Ol' Sparky

Reporters don't like to call politicians liars, even when they lie. We tend to use euphemisms — "at odds with the facts" being a favorite. But Mitt Romney is a liar — a flagrant repeat offender. Everyone knows it, and the press doesn't quite know what to do about it.

Yesterday, Associated Press reporter Glen Johnson couldn't take it anymore, interrupting Romney when he said, "I don't have lobbyists running my campaign. I don't have lobbyists that are tied to my —"

"That's not true," Johnson interjected. "Ron Kaufman's a lobbyist." Kaufman, a longtime Massachusetts politico and a lobbyist, has been heavily involved in Romney's campaign.

If you watch the video, you'll see that Romney tries to hang his argument on a technicality, saying that Kaufman isn't "running" his campaign. But it is simply a matter of objective fact that Kaufman is "tied" to Romney's campaign (as Romney started to say), and at a very high level.

I know Johnson a bit. He's a professional. Perhaps he shouldn't have leaped in quite as aggressively as he did yesterday, but how much of this garbage can he be expected to listen to? And do watch the video all the way to the end. You don't want to miss Romney and his spokesman, Eric Ferhnstrom, trying to intimidate Johnson for doing his job.

Just two prominent other examples of Romney's lies that you probably already know about:

* At a televised debate in New Hampshire, John McCain complained that Romney had described his illegal-immigration proposal as "amnesty" in a television commercial. Romney's response: "I don't describe your plan as amnesty in my ad. I don't call it amnesty." Well, yes he did.

* As David Bernstein recently revealed in the Boston Phoenix, Romney's oft-repeated claim that his father, George Romney, had marched with the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. is not true. Some Romney defenders, including Jay Severin of WTKK (96.9 FM), continue to insist that Romney only meant it metaphorically. But the Romney campaign knew better, producing two eyewitnesses who claimed — falsely — that they had seen the elder Romney and King walking side by side in Grosse Pointe, Mich., in 1963. And this 1978 quote from the Mittster would seem to be beyond parsing: "My father and I marched with Martin Luther King Jr. through the streets of Detroit."

Of course, the entire reason that Romney has suddenly reassumed his former persona as a skilled business executive is that Republicans found his late embrace of right-wing social issues to be utterly unbelievable, as the Globe's Scot Lehigh notes today.

Even as a liberal media critic, I don't like calling Romney a liar. But Romney is proving to be something of an ethical test for journalists. When a candidate lies repeatedly, as Romney has, should a journalist maintain objectivity and refrain from saying the obvious? Or does he or she have an ethical obligation to point out that the liar is lying again? I'd argue the latter.


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: elections; flipflopper; liar; myth; rino; romney; romneytruthfile
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1 posted on 01/26/2008 10:25:10 AM PST by Ol' Sparky
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To: Ol' Sparky

I’m voting for Mitt.

He got sound Republican principles. Unlike the other lying socialists running ... .

If you want to nit pick him - go ahead.

Firm in my vote for MITT!


2 posted on 01/26/2008 10:26:54 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: Ol' Sparky

Romney’s not so special. I don’t think we should be jumping onto his bandwagon just yet.


3 posted on 01/26/2008 10:27:16 AM PST by CautiouslyHopeful
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To: Ol' Sparky
Even as a liberal media critic...

Sniff...sniff....Do I smell....desperation?

4 posted on 01/26/2008 10:27:29 AM PST by Reaganesque (Romney ...is manifestly the best candidate. - Ann Coulter [01/17/08])
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To: nmh

“He got sound Republican principles.”

I don’t like the “sound” of these principles:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_w9pquznG4


5 posted on 01/26/2008 10:28:54 AM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Ol' Sparky

LOL! Spot on.


6 posted on 01/26/2008 10:29:09 AM PST by Earthdweller
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To: Ol' Sparky

7 posted on 01/26/2008 10:29:31 AM PST by a77 (McCain for President)
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To: Ol' Sparky

this Glen Johnson, AP stuff was chewed over at least a week ago here on FR, so the reporter is lying when he says it happened yesterday.


8 posted on 01/26/2008 10:29:54 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: Ol' Sparky
BYW, the NYT endorsed McCAin was definitely pushing amnesty no lying about that.

Also Mitt is funding ALL his efforts to be President. He doens’t need “lobbyists”.

This is such a petty attempt to call Mitt a liar that’s it’s actually humorous!

9 posted on 01/26/2008 10:29:56 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: Ol' Sparky
....should a journalist maintain objectivity and refrain from saying the obvious?

**************

Mayhaps they refrain from saying the obvious....

Lest someone similarly begins "saying the obvious" about the media and its reporters/editors... owners/managers... etc. etc. etc.

The old "glass house" bromide...

JMHO....

10 posted on 01/26/2008 10:30:06 AM PST by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: Ol' Sparky

Check the date on the article, it’s the 19th...this is old news.


11 posted on 01/26/2008 10:31:58 AM PST by dawn53
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To: Ol' Sparky

Why do we insist on posting this self-hating BS?


12 posted on 01/26/2008 10:32:08 AM PST by MindBender26 (Ugliness can be cured by a light switch.)
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To: Graybeard58

I’ve changed my position on abortion around the same time ... maybe sooner. You look to a 2002 video?

I guess Mitt and I should be crucified too we both I changed our stance on abortion - YEARS AGO.


13 posted on 01/26/2008 10:32:10 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: Ol' Sparky

Old and discredited news. How did the date of that story get changed from 1/19/08 to 1/26/08?


14 posted on 01/26/2008 10:32:14 AM PST by gruna
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To: Ol' Sparky

Interesting.


15 posted on 01/26/2008 10:32:53 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Ol' Sparky
At least he is consistent. /sarc. Go Mitt 08!
16 posted on 01/26/2008 10:33:03 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: gruna

TRUE STORY. MITT IS A LIBERAL LIAR.


17 posted on 01/26/2008 10:33:17 AM PST by a77 (McCain for President)
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To: Ol' Sparky

Well, yes, Romney does tell lies. And so does Huckabee. And so does McCain. And so does Giuliani.

But none of them can begin to compare with a congenital/professional liar like hillary clinton. Or her would-be co-president, bill clinton.

(They aren’t in the same league with bill as rapists or murderers, either. And probably the only one among them who could even begin to compete with him as a traitor is McCain.)

Also, Osama Obama is a liar. And Edwards is a liar.

Have I left anyone out? Only because I’m limiting this to the likely candidates.


18 posted on 01/26/2008 10:33:22 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: gruna
Old and discredited news.

I saw it on video. Who am I to believe, you or my lying eyes?

19 posted on 01/26/2008 10:33:38 AM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Ol' Sparky
Isn’t this story a week or two old. Recycling bad news are we?
20 posted on 01/26/2008 10:33:56 AM PST by McGruff (Fred Thompson. The last hope for conservatism.)
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To: Ol' Sparky

The writer of this trash describes himself as a “liberal media critic”.

Why post this trash.


21 posted on 01/26/2008 10:34:15 AM PST by MindBender26 (Ugliness can be cured by a light switch.)
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To: a77

Good one!


22 posted on 01/26/2008 10:34:25 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: nmh
Also Mitt is funding ALL his efforts to be President.

What are you talking about? Mitt's self-funding is only 28 percent of his campaign finances.

Mitt Romney (R)

23 posted on 01/26/2008 10:35:00 AM PST by dirtboy (Romney. McCain. Huckabee. Larry. Moe. Curly. Larry. Daryl. Other brother Daryl.)
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To: Ol' Sparky
Trashy leftist hoping to nurture the Ego Cons.

24 posted on 01/26/2008 10:35:08 AM PST by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: nmh

I’m no Romney fan, but this is, indeed, nitpicking. I don’t mind liars being called liars, but not over a difference of interpretation of a few words.


25 posted on 01/26/2008 10:35:23 AM PST by Clara Lou (~sigh~ '08)
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To: Ol' Sparky

....but, but...

He doesn’t smoke and he doesn’t drink. And, and he’s only been married to one woman. He’s such a “moral” man.

What difference does it make if he tells lies. It is only for the greater good. You know....he wants to serve his country by being President. If he must lie, pander and flip-flop to do so, the it is for the benefit of all the little people who aren’t as good, and qualified to make a decision based upon truth!

He is the “best man left” (and I mean LEFT) doncha know.

,-)


26 posted on 01/26/2008 10:35:41 AM PST by colorcountry (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Ol' Sparky

old sparky this is old old old news, i saw the freaking thing on tv 20 times.
He should have told him what i heard him tell the press a couple of years ago..... Your job is to report the news not make it.

I CAN’T WAIT... I MAY GO VOTE EARLY TOMORROW! AND I AM GOING TO GO LOOK AT MITT AND THOSE NASTY REPORTS IN JAX ON MONDAY!!!!!!!


27 posted on 01/26/2008 10:36:01 AM PST by libbylu (Why vote for a democrat with an R next to his name? I'm a MITTen.)
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To: nmh

That is the Mitt he wants you to think he is.. behind the scenes he is a different Mitt and the temper he showed that reporter is closer to the real Romney.... the man who is ruthless and willing to spend any amount to attain the power he craves. This is the man who ran for the Senate to the left of Ted Kennedy and in real life has not changed one iota...


28 posted on 01/26/2008 10:36:26 AM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: a77
TRUE STORY. MITT IS A LIBERAL LIAR.

Bears repeating:

TRUE STORY. MITT IS A LIBERAL LIAR.

29 posted on 01/26/2008 10:37:10 AM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Ol' Sparky

Romney uses words just like Bill Clinton did. Virtually all of his positions and everything he says is based on technicalities and parsing words.


30 posted on 01/26/2008 10:37:21 AM PST by KoRn (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: a77

That cartoon has nothing to do with the topic of this thread. Too bad about your candidate.


31 posted on 01/26/2008 10:37:47 AM PST by Clara Lou (~sigh~ '08)
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To: MindBender26
"Why do we insist on posting this self-hating BS?"

Which "self" are you talking about? You got a little midget in your pocket?

32 posted on 01/26/2008 10:38:44 AM PST by Earthdweller
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To: a77

How come you’re not touting McCain’s NY Times endorsement? Because you are a recent arrival, you may not be aware of it but around here a NY Times endorsement can really influence people to vote for your candidate.


33 posted on 01/26/2008 10:38:52 AM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: Ol' Sparky

Romney is the best of what remains in the race for either party.

McCain is a no-go. Huck makes a great governor, Giuliani would make a great cabinet secretary, maybe State, but not president. Romney is, for me, the only choice remaining. If you like one of the others better, fine, they are all of them a mixed bag, and you’ll have to overlook some of their baggage. For me, in terms of overall competence, overall political vision, and overall baggage, since my preferred candidates have left the field, its Romney.


34 posted on 01/26/2008 10:38:57 AM PST by marron
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To: Ol' Sparky

Mitt is the only choice now that the 3 conservatives dropped out. Anybody but Huckster, Paul, and McLame.

Guess that narrows it down.


35 posted on 01/26/2008 10:39:51 AM PST by JackRyanCIA (The notion that Universities are liberal is a cruel joke. They are fascist to the core.)
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To: Ol' Sparky

Ol’ Sparky caught lying about the date on the article


36 posted on 01/26/2008 10:39:58 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: Ol' Sparky

Why are we pounding on each other’s candidates like this? We have two moderates and two liberals, all pretending to be conservatives for the next 3 months.

Pick your poison or opt out, but Romney’s certainly no worse than the others.


37 posted on 01/26/2008 10:40:02 AM PST by elfman2 ("As goes Fallujah, so goes central Iraq and so goes the entire country" -Col Coleman, USMC ,4/2004)
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To: Ol' Sparky

The RATS can destroy Romney with his own words and record and it will be 100% TRUE!

When the RATS got done with flipper I doubt he could carry Utah!


38 posted on 01/26/2008 10:40:06 AM PST by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Ol' Sparky
When a candidate lies repeatedly, as Romney has, should a journalist maintain objectivity and refrain from saying the obvious? Or does he or she have an ethical obligation to point out that the liar is lying again? I'd argue the latter.

So where's the hit piece on the lying-ass Clintons? Has the media lost all objectivity and "lost their voice" from stating the obvious, or has the media avoided their obligation, out of fear of the purple-rage-crooked-finger, to point out that the lying Clintons have a pathological pattern of perfected lying? I'd argue the latter.

39 posted on 01/26/2008 10:40:29 AM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: Ol' Sparky

Stop recycling this crap. This is at least 10 days old.


40 posted on 01/26/2008 10:41:43 AM PST by golfisnr1 (Democrats are like roaches - hard to get rid of.)
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To: elfman2

Romney is a rich liberal from Kennedy’s and Kerry’s land.


41 posted on 01/26/2008 10:41:55 AM PST by a77 (McCain for President)
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To: Ol' Sparky

I saw a video of this Johnson character badgering Romney about this, and Johnson came off like a stupid jerk. This article is less than credible.


42 posted on 01/26/2008 10:42:51 AM PST by hsalaw
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To: colorcountry
He doesn’t smoke and he doesn’t drink. And, and he’s only been married to one woman. He’s such a “moral” man.

I was actually challenged by a Romney supporter to a "Who has the most grand children contest". She picked on the wrong person with that challenge. I have more.

She should have come up with a "who is the tallest contest, me or Romney". I'd probably lose that one as I am 6' tall and I believe he's taller than that.

43 posted on 01/26/2008 10:42:59 AM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Graybeard58

He may be a liar. But Huckabee’s a hypocrite and a religious socialist. McCain is an egomaniacal RINO. Rudy’s a RINO. Paul isn’t worthy of comment. So, where does that leave us?


44 posted on 01/26/2008 10:43:24 AM PST by Clara Lou (~sigh~ '08)
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To: nmh
Here is a mitten for mitt thanks to GOP-Lady.

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45 posted on 01/26/2008 10:43:27 AM PST by Gosh I love this neighborhood
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To: Ol' Sparky
I don't know why, but it seems that all politicians lie! And, like my gramma always said, "Once a liar, always a liar!"

Don't the Mormon, Catholic and Baptist religions teach 'Thou shall not bear false witness?'

I don't trust any of 'em!

46 posted on 01/26/2008 10:44:15 AM PST by yorkie
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To: gusopol3
this Glen Johnson, AP stuff was chewed over at least a week ago here on FR, so the reporter is lying when he says it happened yesterday.

Yea, so let's not talk about it any more.

Check the link for the date of the article to verify that the reporter is lying.

47 posted on 01/26/2008 10:44:20 AM PST by Syncro
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To: nmh
These same critics say Rush Limbaugh does nothing but lie. Mitt's in good company.

It's telling as to how hard the MSM is going after him.

48 posted on 01/26/2008 10:44:24 AM PST by TruthFactor (The Death of Nations: Pornography, Homosexuality, Abortion)
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To: All
I'm getting real tired of this garbage!

Earth to Nitpickers....All the GOOD candidates have dropped out! Who the heck are we to vote for then?????

I was for Fred now I am suporting Mitt, cut us all a break!...the pickins are slim!

49 posted on 01/26/2008 10:44:44 AM PST by alice_in_bubbaland (Wandering in the wasteland of GOP RINO's.)
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To: Clara Lou
He may be a liar. But Huckabee’s a hypocrite and a religious socialist. McCain is an egomaniacal RINO. Rudy’s a RINO. Paul isn’t worthy of comment. So, where does that leave us?

I cannot disagree with a single thing you said. Where does it leave us? Up the proverbial creek without a paddle.

50 posted on 01/26/2008 10:45:33 AM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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