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The Belmont Club ^ | January 29, 2008 | Richard Fernandez

Posted on 01/29/2008 9:06:24 PM PST by Cannoneer No. 4

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To: Yosemitest
I suppose you didn't choose to read the links I provided to you? Here -- I'll post a contrast here for you to read....

Armstrongs denial of the Trinity...

The Trinity: "God is not merely one Person, nor even limited to a `Trinity,' but God is FAMILY. The doctrine of the Trinity is false" (The Missing Dimension In Sex, H.W. Armstrong, p. 37).

"The concept of a Trinity is nowhere found in the Bible. it has been formulated by men under the influence of Satan. The Trinity hides from man God's plan of salvation. The Trinity doctrine maintains that the Godhead is a closed unit into which no one else can enter" (Good News Nov./Dec. 1990, p. 10).

The Evangelicals Doctrine of the Trinity:

The core elements of the doctrine of the Trinity are these:

1. There is one true God, the LORD, i.e., Yahweh, or Jehovah. (Deut. 4:35, 39; 6:4; Isa. 43:10; 44:6-8; Acts 17:29; James 2:19)
2. The Father of our Lord Jesus Christ is this one true God, the LORD. (John 17:3; 20:17; cf. Ps. 110:1)
3. The Son, the Lord Jesus Christ, is this one true God, the LORD. (John 1:1; 20:28; Rom. 10:9-13; Phil. 2:9-11; Titus 2:13; 2 Peter 1:1; 1 John 5:20)
4. The Holy Spirit, who was sent by the Son from the Father, is this one true God, the LORD. (Acts 5:3-4, 9; 2 Cor. 3:17-18)

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61 posted on 01/31/2008 7:00:17 PM PST by StarCMC (http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com; http://starcmc.wordpress.com/ - The Enemedia is inside the gates.)
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To: StarCMC
You still haven't addressed John 1: 1-14.

Let's review my point

I don't know what your "Trinity" theory has to do with that.
Nowhere do I find "Trinity" in the Bible.
There are only two, the Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ. The holy spirit is the power through which they do their work.

62 posted on 01/31/2008 8:35:53 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die.)
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To: Yosemitest

And my point is that the person whose theology you are basing your beliefs on was incorrect in their interpretation of Scripture. This was NOT foretold, the US is NOT a replacement for Israel as God’s Chosen People. Therefore, your assumption that this was foretold is off-base. The Trinity interpretation was simply used as an example to show that your source’s Scripture interpretation is flawed. The thought that God would use one people-group to bring judgment on another people-group is something that can be extrapolated from the way God worked in the Old Testament. We, our country, the US - I believe we are protected precisely because we continue to stand with Israel (although I also think we stab them in the back too often.) I believe that if our country ceases to be an ally of Israel, that protection will be removed.

Honestly, I didn’t wish to debate the Trinity - it was an example. Not that the fact that every major evangelical denomination as well as the Catholic church’s agreement on the subject means that it’s right, but it ought to make you think a little more carefully before you categorically deny that all those theologians may have a truth that your church is denying. And I don’t see how an interpretation of John 1:1-4 denies the existence of the Trinity. How can you prove something does not exist? It’s like me saying I went to the mall with my husband, when I also had my kids along. But then you saying my kids weren’t there because I didn’t mention them. Sorta silly if you ask me!


63 posted on 02/01/2008 7:25:45 AM PST by StarCMC (http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com; http://starcmc.wordpress.com/ - The Enemedia is inside the gates.)
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To: StarCMC
Israel went to war against the Jews.
This isn't a replacement. Pekah, the son of Remaliah, was the king of Israel.

If you'll just think a minute, you'll see that todays nation if Israel isn't "House of Israel".

Try to think of this:

Look ... think of "the House of Judah" as today's nation of Israel,

I hope this helps. If not, there's not much else to say.

64 posted on 02/01/2008 4:06:02 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die.)
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To: StarCMC

Now you see why I don’t argue theology.


65 posted on 02/01/2008 6:36:03 PM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Civilian Irregular Information Defense Group http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4

LOL - yup! :-)


66 posted on 02/01/2008 10:28:26 PM PST by StarCMC (http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com; http://starcmc.wordpress.com/ - The Enemedia is inside the gates.)
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