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Oh Lord, Let It Not Be John McCain - A NonRinos's Prayer (Vanity)
JoeClarke.Net ^ | 02/04/2008 | JoeClarke.Net

Posted on 02/04/2008 2:39:42 PM PST by joeclarke

Yet, if he is the Repub's candidate, please, give me the strength to vote for him.

Yes, Senator McCain is better than Hillary and Obama, but has our country slidden so far left that we can do no better than this Bob Dole redux?

The NY Times loves him. Arnold loves him. Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe love him. Talk about bad company. The past performance of John McCain as war hero does not indicate his future success as President of the United States.

Unfortunately, as a former Catholic and long time Bapticostal, I was mostly taught that Mormonism was a "cult." This undoubtedly hurt Mitt right out of the chute. The more, however, I delve into the doctrinal intricacies of some non-Mormon denominations, they could also be accused of doing some really weird things which I will not go into now. Would Romney bring these cultic(?) practices into the White House? Would hidden holy underwear be a great bother to his performance? Bill Clinton brought in a whole lot more in the form of his bacchanalian rituals which provoked incoming President Bush to fumigate and replace carpeting. Its fair to assume, though, that Clinton was a Bino - Baptist in Name Only. Could Romney, as has been taught by my fellow fundamentalists, really be Satan's representative? I think not, and the more I compare Romney with the Episcopalian turned Baptist (he has not been fully immersed, yet, which is obviously very important to Baptists) McCain, old Mitt is looking much better.

As of now, on the eve of Super Tuesday, I am in Mitt's corner, and not because of the shrill, super conservatives who have been boring me to death on talk radio with the McCain badgering.

Scariest of all - McCain has pledged to "reach across the aisle" to Democrats. What, the Dems can never reach across to Republicans? John McCain has too many negatives on immigration, taxation, freedom of speech retarded by McCain-Feingold, objections to oil drilling in Alaska, hoodwinked by the global warming scare tactic people, treating terrorists like "average American Joes" in Gitmo and elsewhere, allowing Dems to deter judicial nominees, and Clintonesque temper tantrums.

Despite his foibles, I generally have liked John McCain for his heroism and so-so conservative voting record. [I would take anyone over Hillary and Obama at this point]

Let this cup of John McCain for president pass, oh Lord. Amen.


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1 posted on 02/04/2008 2:39:45 PM PST by joeclarke
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To: joeclarke
How I came to the difficult decision to support Mitt Romney
2 posted on 02/04/2008 2:42:13 PM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: joeclarke

Amen.


3 posted on 02/04/2008 2:43:27 PM PST by ruination
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To: joeclarke
...has our country slidden so far left that we can do no better than this Bob Dole redux?

Slide. Slid. Slud...as Dizzy Dean used to say.

John McCain is most assuredly not "Bob Dole redux".

Bob Dole was a loyal Republican who would've signed any conservative legislation that a GOP Congress sent him.

John McCain can't be counted upon to do that. He is neither loyal, nor trustworthy...nor conservative.

Give me Bob Dole everytime.

4 posted on 02/04/2008 2:46:18 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: joeclarke

Can’t we just have nobody for four years or so. The empty chair is better than any choices we are offered.

Just put an automated veto machine on it and we’ll be way ahead than with any of the candidates offered to us.

Maybe two houses of empty chairs in Congress, too.

The only way that things won’t get much worse.


5 posted on 02/04/2008 2:46:35 PM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (And close the damned borders!)
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To: joeclarke
The best prayer only says, "Thy will be done"

It is in God's hand.

Also a side note to McCain supporters:

You are my enemy.

6 posted on 02/04/2008 2:47:34 PM PST by bmwcyle (What is the American voter thinking?)
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To: ruination

Hear hear!


7 posted on 02/04/2008 2:47:48 PM PST by GunsareOK (McKook vs Hillary/Obama--not a nickel's worth of difference.)
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To: joeclarke

et Cum Spiritu Tuo, I love the Secular Messianistic Cults that surround our political leaders. Who needs Jesus? (sarc)


8 posted on 02/04/2008 2:50:51 PM PST by lmc12
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To: GunsareOK

Maverick Juan McPain

With credit to Paul Shanklin on Rush and the continual inspiration of Doug from Upland

Who is that nut case Senator?
Maverick Juan McPain!
Taking the country who-knows-where
Schmucks are his supporters,
Wants to run the show!

Nuts as dingbat, that’s for sure,
Maverick Juan McPain.
Has a head full of wild hairs,
Stuck right up his rear end,
He wants to make his name!

The Constitution can go to hell,
And we’ll lose the Congress as well,
Juan is a nut who loves himself the best!
With a spirit petty and mean,
Calls conservatives extreme,
He appeals to the center of the left!

And as far as we can tell,
The country will go to hell,
Juan is a fool who loves himself the best!
Treats conservatives with disdain,
Certifiably insane,
His politics are the center of the left!

Maverick’s not the name that fits him best!


9 posted on 02/04/2008 2:51:15 PM PST by GunsareOK (McKook vs Hillary/Obama--not a nickel's worth of difference.)
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To: bmwcyle

Thy will be done.


10 posted on 02/04/2008 2:51:40 PM PST by DB
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To: DB

AMEN


11 posted on 02/04/2008 2:54:02 PM PST by bmwcyle (What is the American voter thinking?)
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To: joeclarke

I will not vote for McCain, period.


12 posted on 02/04/2008 2:54:14 PM PST by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: joeclarke
Unfortunately, as a former Catholic and long time Bapticostal, I was mostly taught that Mormonism was a "cult."

now you've got your feet on solid ground, eh?

13 posted on 02/04/2008 2:54:43 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (it's not called the Church Militant for nothing.)
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To: bmwcyle
I've been praying, "Lord God, We beg you: SEND US A LEADER! Nevertheless, Thy Will be done..."
14 posted on 02/04/2008 2:54:57 PM PST by redhead (VICTORY FIRST, THEN PEACE)
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To: GunsareOK

To the tune of:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYrsDT02OcE


15 posted on 02/04/2008 2:55:05 PM PST by GunsareOK (McKook vs Hillary/Obama--not a nickel's worth of difference.)
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To: bmwcyle; BufordP

...You are my enemy...

And the enemy of conservatism as well.


16 posted on 02/04/2008 2:56:28 PM PST by GunsareOK (McKook vs Hillary/Obama--not a nickel's worth of difference.)
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To: bmwcyle
The best prayer only says, "Thy will be done" It is in God's hand. Also a side note to McCain supporters: You are my enemy.

Yeah, pray that the member of an anti-Christian cult gets the nomination. I'm sure that is a prayer the Lord will honor!

17 posted on 02/04/2008 2:57:01 PM PST by arturo ("A dead thing can go with the stream, but only a living thing can go against it." - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: okie01

You took the words out of my mouth. Bob Dole ran a poor campaign and made a number of strategic errors in judgment. But he was a decent guy and a real conservative, if not the best one on the block.

McCain is an egotistical madman.


18 posted on 02/04/2008 2:57:31 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: mtbopfuyn

AMEN


19 posted on 02/04/2008 2:57:45 PM PST by bmwcyle (What is the American voter thinking?)
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To: redhead

AMEN


20 posted on 02/04/2008 2:58:10 PM PST by bmwcyle (What is the American voter thinking?)
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To: bmwcyle
You are my enemy.

Amen to that brother!
21 posted on 02/04/2008 2:58:46 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: joeclarke

“McCain: I’d ‘entertain’ Democratic VP slot”

USA Today, March 10, 2004

“John Kerry is a close friend of mine. We have been friends for years,” McCain said Wednesday when pressed to squelch speculation about a Kerry-McCain ticket. “Obviously I would entertain it.”

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/president/2004-03-10-mccain-vp_x.htm

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John McCain,
Boston Herald, April 2, 2004

“I believe my party has gone astray. I think the Democratic Party is a fine party, and I have no problems with it, in their views and in their philosophy.”

http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/mccain.asp


22 posted on 02/04/2008 2:58:53 PM PST by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.)
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To: arturo

Loose your bigotry.


23 posted on 02/04/2008 2:59:33 PM PST by bmwcyle (What is the American voter thinking?)
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To: joeclarke

Review of McCain.

http://www.splendad.com/ads/show/1522-Pepto-Bismol-Office-Dance


24 posted on 02/04/2008 3:00:48 PM PST by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: bmwcyle
Loose your bigotry.

Actually, when it comes to the truth, the Lord WANTS us to be downright bigoted!

25 posted on 02/04/2008 3:01:56 PM PST by arturo ("A dead thing can go with the stream, but only a living thing can go against it." - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: arturo
Yeah, pray that the member of an anti-Christian cult gets the nomination. I'm sure that is a prayer the Lord will honor!

Better that than a hypocrite so-called Christian who walked away from his calling to preach the gospel to become a POLITICIAN.
26 posted on 02/04/2008 3:02:15 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: joeclarke

LOL...

We keep pretending that a “true” conservative might someday make it to the white house. When was there ever one in the last century?

Heck, the GOP hasn’t even ~nominated~ a conservative since Goldwater, and even he wouldn’t have been conservative “enough” for this crowd.


27 posted on 02/04/2008 3:04:31 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: arturo
We are not choosing a leader of our church.

You need to read the Bible more.

28 posted on 02/04/2008 3:04:40 PM PST by bmwcyle (What is the American voter thinking?)
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To: SoConPubbie
Better that than a hypocrite so-called Christian who walked away from his calling to preach the gospel to become a POLITICIAN.

I assume you mean Huckabee and not McCain...but don't you think it is a little ironic that you think hypocrites are called to preach the gospel? Interesting point of view...

29 posted on 02/04/2008 3:05:49 PM PST by arturo ("A dead thing can go with the stream, but only a living thing can go against it." - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Ramius
Heck, the GOP hasn’t even ~nominated~ a conservative since Goldwater, and even he wouldn’t have been conservative “enough” for this crowd.

If Reagan wasn't conservative for you, then I guess Jesus would be the only one who could meet your standards.
30 posted on 02/04/2008 3:06:47 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: bmwcyle
We are not choosing a leader of our church. You need to read the Bible more.

Hmm, I didn't realize you had a hidden camera in my house and could monitor my bible reading. But anyway, where in the Bible does it say we should vote for anti-Christian cult members to be leaders in our government? I must have missed that passage.

31 posted on 02/04/2008 3:08:08 PM PST by arturo ("A dead thing can go with the stream, but only a living thing can go against it." - G.K. Chesterton)
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That is EXACTLY the type of response I would expect from a Huckster supporter.

Twist what was said and meant and then attack the false and incorrect meaning that you put on my words.

Huckabee is a Hypocrite NOW because of his lying about his record and his un-Christian like behavior towards other candidates he does not agree with, particulary Thompson and Romney.

He is also a hypocrite because he walked away from his calling from God to become a politician.

Either he was never called to preach by God, or he sacrificed the most important job on earth to be a politician.

Which is it Arturo?
32 posted on 02/04/2008 3:11:11 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie
If Reagan wasn't conservative for you,...

Actually, Rush, Hannity, Ingraham, etc. and plenty of Freepers would have considered Reagan a flaming liberal if he was running now based upon his record as governor of CA.

33 posted on 02/04/2008 3:11:28 PM PST by arturo ("A dead thing can go with the stream, but only a living thing can go against it." - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: arturo

where in the Bible does it mention the Anti-Christian Cult?


34 posted on 02/04/2008 3:12:12 PM PST by bgierhart (I stand behind my President)
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To: arturo; Reagan Man
Actually, Rush, Hannity, Ingraham, etc. and plenty of Freepers would have considered Reagan a flaming liberal if he was running now based upon his record as governor of CA.

Actually, that is a lie.

All you have to do is listen to their shows for a week to know EMPHATICALLY how they feel about Reagan.

They Love him and Revere him as the Great Communicator.

But nice try at smearing Reagan to make an excuse for your FAUX-conservative of a candidate.
35 posted on 02/04/2008 3:15:30 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie

dido,


36 posted on 02/04/2008 3:17:15 PM PST by bgierhart (I stand behind my President)
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To: joeclarke

Amen


37 posted on 02/04/2008 3:17:22 PM PST by GOP Poet
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To: joeclarke

Prayers that it is NOT that sleazy, lying, no good, bribing, party-destroying Massachusetts liberal Joe Isuzu Romney !


38 posted on 02/04/2008 3:18:28 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: SoConPubbie
Huckabee is a Hypocrite NOW because of his lying about his record and his un-Christian like behavior towards other candidates he does not agree with, particulary Thompson and Romney.

Yes, I know, you didn't like the fact that Huckabee defended his record after Thompson and Romney initiated attacks on Huckabee. The fact that he didn't just roll over and take it makes him a "liar".

He is also a hypocrite because he walked away from his calling from God to become a politician.

Ah, so your view is that the will of God for an individual is best determined by you, and not between God and that particular individual. Interesting take!

39 posted on 02/04/2008 3:19:22 PM PST by arturo ("A dead thing can go with the stream, but only a living thing can go against it." - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: bmwcyle

Please God, let it not be John McCain. Thy will be done. :-) I guess that covers both bases. Love your last sentence :-)


40 posted on 02/04/2008 3:19:34 PM PST by GOP Poet
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To: GOP Poet

AMEN


41 posted on 02/04/2008 3:20:09 PM PST by bmwcyle (What is the American voter thinking?)
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To: SoConPubbie
But nice try at smearing Reagan to make an excuse for your FAUX-conservative of a candidate.

You missed the point clean. Re-read the post.

42 posted on 02/04/2008 3:20:33 PM PST by arturo ("A dead thing can go with the stream, but only a living thing can go against it." - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

you most be a product of the NEA. Think before you speak.


43 posted on 02/04/2008 3:20:40 PM PST by bgierhart (I stand behind my President)
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To: arturo
Ah, so your view is that the will of God for an individual is best determined by you, and not between God and that particular individual. Interesting take!

Show me EXAMPLES from the Bible where God called a man to Lead and then took that calling away without that man doing anything sinful!
44 posted on 02/04/2008 3:22:37 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: bgierhart
where in the Bible does it mention the Anti-Christian Cult?

Try Galatians, Chapter 1, and see what it says.

45 posted on 02/04/2008 3:25:20 PM PST by arturo ("A dead thing can go with the stream, but only a living thing can go against it." - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: GunsareOK

A few names that I can think of that fit Juan McPain better then Maverick, is #1 Schmuck and A-Hole. I think that fits him to a tea!


46 posted on 02/04/2008 3:29:04 PM PST by rodeo-mamma
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To: joeclarke
Amen!!!
47 posted on 02/04/2008 3:29:48 PM PST by TigersEye (McCain is unfit for office. See my profile page.)
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To: bgierhart
I'll repeat it for you, since you apparent have your cranium impacted in your lower intestinal tract...

Prayers that it is NOT that sleazy, lying, no good, bribing, party-destroying Massachusetts liberal Joe Isuzu Romney !

48 posted on 02/04/2008 3:29:58 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: arturo; Reagan Man
You missed the point clean. Re-read the post.

I missed nothing.

The same slimy approach was used by both the RudyBots and MittBots early in the campaign and it was easily disputed as well.

If you are standing by your statement, prove your point!

Post examples of where you think Ronald Reagan was so liberal. Oh, and by the way, the Abortion thing has already been done to death and counterpointed. So before you present that as evidence, you might want to do some research here at FreeRepublic because if you present it again, I am sure someone will refute the mis-characterization.
49 posted on 02/04/2008 3:30:56 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: fieldmarshaldj

That is romney allright, Flip Flop Chamleon man.


50 posted on 02/04/2008 3:31:26 PM PST by OPS4 (Ops4 God Bless America!)
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