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Fitna - The Movie
The Moderate Separatist ^ | March 30, 2008 | Leigh Patrick Sullivan

Posted on 03/30/2008 9:13:12 AM PDT by Leigh Patrick Sullivan

Muslims and naive Western liberals don't like it, but here's modern Islam in all its glory.

WARNING: CONTAINS GRAPHIC IMAGES

(Excerpt) Read more at themoderateseparatist.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Military/Veterans; Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: filmjihad; fitna; islam; moviereview; muslim; waronterror

1 posted on 03/30/2008 9:13:14 AM PDT by Leigh Patrick Sullivan
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To: Leigh Patrick Sullivan

This is so over.


2 posted on 03/30/2008 9:14:45 AM PDT by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: RightWhale; Tijeras_Slim

Tijeras Slim stated the other day that a fitna is a fatwa that has started exercising and eating properly! Heh.


3 posted on 03/30/2008 9:17:37 AM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: RightWhale

Tell that to the 4000 who died on 9/11.

It isn’t over until the West understands the threat is real.


4 posted on 03/30/2008 9:26:08 AM PDT by Leigh Patrick Sullivan
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To: Leigh Patrick Sullivan

You missed it. The little movie is over.


5 posted on 03/30/2008 9:28:40 AM PDT by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: Leigh Patrick Sullivan
Amazing the the left worldwide are allies with Islam..
Especially the death cult part of Islam..

But the leftists have never really been bothered much with carnage on a massive scale.. This next century might gage death in the BILLIONS instead of the hundreds of millions in the last century.. The leftists are using the Muslims like a rented Donkey today.. Tomorrow they may be for liquidating them all.. Leftism has always had one goal.. ZERO political opposition..

6 posted on 03/30/2008 9:38:57 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: Leigh Patrick Sullivan

Get message that I can’t display your website.


7 posted on 03/30/2008 9:44:54 AM PDT by Excellence (Daughter of the American Revolution, neice of the Civil War (North).)
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To: Excellence

The truth some times gets out!


8 posted on 03/30/2008 10:11:49 AM PDT by attila1
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To: Excellence

Try reloading. The spike in visitors is causing a few loading problems with blogger.

Double-click on the video if you have problems with it, or go directly to youtube and search ‘fitna’.


9 posted on 03/30/2008 12:11:44 PM PDT by Leigh Patrick Sullivan
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To: RightWhale
So over what? Reality? 'The facts of the matter'? What?

Geert Wilder has risked his life, no doubt; as have others here, so as to wake-up and inform their fellow citizens in the Netherlands; and as well, Europe and the rest of the world - the 'rest of us'. (This 'movie is being removed from some sites; so might be good to go there before it disappears. . .) You need look/see only if inclined; while noting a host of other videos available for viewing as well; done also by Wilder & company.

The truth is of course, unless more people 'look/see'; the vitimization; the perils of this threat, will only continue to leap in numbers.

So, would encourage all 'reason-capable' to 'buck up' and go here. . .Get the Arab sand out of your eyes!

Meantime, Fox News announced the morning; that Islam is now the world's largest religion; having just surpassed Catholics; which heretofore; had the largest religious grouping. (Don't know where the Christian 'grouping' or those of the Jewish Faith here, tally up, but whatever; it is not good news.)

Better, for some; too many for sure. . .that they turn their power off for an hour to make a collective, feel-good statement of protecting the world from the the so-called 'global-warming threat'.

A 'straw dog'; and a contrived distraction, against the threats that more need to be alerted to i.e. the real threat our 'civilization' must confront.

.. .and there is no time for 'later' here.

(If anyone needs a little humor for levity; then read Mark Steyn's 'America Alone'; he too is paying a price - in Canada yet. . .for telling the nasty truth of the matter. As does anyone, it seems; who dares to 'go there'.) The least one can do; is to read what any of these brave people are warning. . .

10 posted on 03/30/2008 12:33:32 PM PDT by cricket (Damn Political Correctness; before it irretrievably, damns us all. . .)
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To: All

FITNA
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/020486.php
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/191989.php
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2949546475561399959&hl=en
http://www.google.com/search?q=fitna+torrent


11 posted on 03/30/2008 4:06:51 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: Cindy
Thanks for additional links. Here is another one. It has already been pulled from 'live leak' due to death threats to their staff.

The 'protectors' have their hands full. 'powerlineblog.com' providing links as well.

www.dailymotion.com/video/x4vd6k_fitna-the-movie-geert-wilders-film_news

12 posted on 03/30/2008 7:41:01 PM PDT by cricket (Damn Political Correctness; before it irretrievably, damns us all. . .)
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To: cricket

Thank you Cricket.


13 posted on 03/30/2008 7:45:50 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: cricket

Let’s make the link you posted clickable:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4vd6k_fitna-the-movie-geert-wilders-film_news


14 posted on 03/30/2008 7:48:14 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: Leigh Patrick Sullivan
It isn’t over until the West understands the threat is real.

Right. . .would go just a little farther here and say that. . .

'It isn’t over until the West can say the threat is real. (And that is only our starting point when it comes to Islamization. . .

'Powerline' reminds us of this problem as well. . .as per following:

And don't forget the comments of Dutch Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende on the film earlier this week at a news conference held at the Hague:

"The film equates Islam with violence. We reject this interpretation."

15 posted on 03/30/2008 7:54:48 PM PDT by cricket (Damn Political Correctness; before it irretrievably, damns us all. . .)
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To: Cindy
Thanks for taking the time; also, of course, available at Leigh Patrick Sullivan's web page. (Poster name/site, top of this thread).

Personally, even with ACC and 'baseball' today. ..am wondering about the response or 'lack thereof' on this thread. Not that it's 'bad'. ..just seems, there should be more heat generated.

Glad to see this addressed at 'powerline' as well; and Drudge. . .and a number of other premier blogging sites. Fitna 'movie' is moving.

16 posted on 03/30/2008 8:10:48 PM PDT by cricket (Damn Political Correctness; before it irretrievably, damns us all. . .)
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To: cricket

You shouldn’t worry about the lack of response on this thread.

FreeRepublic.com has covered the film jihad and fitna quite well.

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/filmjihad/
http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/fitna/

On The Threat Matrix on FreeRepublic.com we cover threats and
other items/incidents of concern daily.

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/threatmatrix

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OPINION:

Generally speaking, FreeRepublic.com, certain blogs and web sites ARE doing the job the lame-stream-media is not doing on a consistent basis.

Ignorance is not bliss.

Willful ignorance is disgusting.

Apathy is a killer.


17 posted on 03/30/2008 8:20:46 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: Cindy
Generally speaking, FreeRepublic.com, certain blogs and web sites ARE doing the job the lame-stream-media is not doing on a consistent basis.

No doubt/No question about that.

18 posted on 03/30/2008 9:15:33 PM PDT by cricket (Damn Political Correctness; before it irretrievably, damns us all. . .)
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To: Cindy
Generally speaking, FreeRepublic.com, certain blogs and web sites ARE doing the job the lame-stream-media is not doing on a consistent basis.

No doubt/No question about that.

19 posted on 03/30/2008 9:16:34 PM PDT by cricket (Damn Political Correctness; before it irretrievably, damns us all. . .)
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To: RightWhale

I see Live Leak has reposted Fitna this morning http://www.jihadwatch.org/


20 posted on 03/31/2008 9:22:08 AM PDT by marken_ssa
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To: cricket
there should be more heat generated

There was on the timely threads. This one is late to the game. It's old news. Get it?

21 posted on 03/31/2008 9:49:56 AM PDT by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: RightWhale
There was on the timely threads. This one is late to the game. It's old news. Get it?

Until more - including those who may visit and lurk at Free Republic - it is NOT old news.

It certainly is not 'old news' to those who have put themselves at risk to air this 'movie'; nor to 'live leak' who first aired this and now have had to pull it; because of death threats to their staff.

If you are personally guarding against 'old news' here at FR; perhaps you should be more concerned with the 'old junk' that continually arises; that is intended to pass for meaningful political discourse.

Please, do 'Free Republic' a real favor and 'Go get them'!

And don't trouble yourself about more timely warnings that need, still. . .to be heeded.

Get it? (Hope so.)

22 posted on 03/31/2008 10:35:30 AM PDT by cricket (Damn Political Correctness; before it irretrievably, damns us all. . .)
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To: cricket

The Web has moved on. Nano-issues are gone.


23 posted on 03/31/2008 10:42:10 AM PDT by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: marken_ssa

Sounds like the heat is off. Or maybe never was much heat. And not much notice outside the Web.


24 posted on 03/31/2008 10:47:10 AM PDT by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: RightWhale
You can be sure it was noticed. . .and it's own heat; rather than lack of it. . .made it perhaps; appear it was unoticed. Which goes back to the very reason, this 'whack to the 'all too civilized' - and 'fearful' was offered in the first place.
25 posted on 03/31/2008 10:58:42 AM PDT by cricket (Damn Political Correctness; before it irretrievably, damns us all. . .)
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To: cricket

This is about the 20th thread on the subject. No one cares about this ancient issue anymore; it is burned out. 25 posts does not indicate interest in the thread and no one will see it scroll by.


26 posted on 03/31/2008 11:04:30 AM PDT by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: RightWhale
Look.. .the 'web' has moved on': fine. . .the thread will die for lack of interest; fine. . .but this qualifies as an ancient issue only by the 'stone-age' mentality of those, who by their stone-age religion; have dragged the most un-enlightened aspects of their religion, into the twenty-first century. . .and by same; are determined to drop all it's totalitarian ugliness around our heads - before or after - they roll.

And of course, making us 'history' is precisely what they have in mind.

27 posted on 03/31/2008 12:02:38 PM PDT by cricket (Damn Political Correctness; before it irretrievably, damns us all. . .)
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To: cricket

No message there. Everbody on the planet already knows and a sophomoric webfilm isn’t about to argue anything fresh. That’s right, the film had interst only while it might have been controversial, but it isn’t and so it isn’t.


28 posted on 03/31/2008 12:15:14 PM PDT by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: RightWhale

the film had interst only while it might have been controversial, but it isn’t and so it isn’t.

Give it a few more days to perculate into those thick Islamic skulls, rageboy hasn’t gotten his marching orders yet.


29 posted on 03/31/2008 12:20:55 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: RightWhale
That’s right, the film had interst only while it might have been controversial, but it isn’t and so it isn’t.

Can only say, 'myopia happens'. . .and your arms must be tired; beating what appears you; a 'dead horse'.

30 posted on 03/31/2008 12:27:13 PM PDT by cricket (Damn Political Correctness; before it irretrievably, damns us all. . .)
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To: tet68

That was the audience. Talking to them is like lecturing a moose. Like that old comment on football, if it’s a game it’s too violent; if it’s war it’s not violent enough. It’s not the right approach to the problem. Don’t know what the right approach might be, but these muzzies are scart of something for sure and that’s why they show these behaviors. Find out what they are scart of.


31 posted on 03/31/2008 12:29:45 PM PDT by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: RightWhale

oops. . .that should be: ‘Can only say, ‘myopia happens’. . .and your arms must be tired; beating what appears TO you; a ‘dead horse’.


32 posted on 03/31/2008 12:30:25 PM PDT by cricket (Damn Political Correctness; before it irretrievably, damns us all. . .)
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To: cricket

It’s not even sophomoric. It’s trite.


33 posted on 03/31/2008 12:31:06 PM PDT by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: cricket

That’s more like it. Not enough phenomenology on this BBS.


34 posted on 03/31/2008 12:32:23 PM PDT by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: RightWhale

Was scart you would mis-read the message. Nuff said.


35 posted on 03/31/2008 12:56:29 PM PDT by cricket (Damn Political Correctness; before it irretrievably, damns us all. . .)
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To: cricket

The message wasn’t FOR you or FOR me unless you are muzzie and I am not. It was FOR muzzies and posted where muzzies don’t even look. Both the movie and its marketing plan have failed.


36 posted on 03/31/2008 12:58:40 PM PDT by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: cricket

I think you are looking at the film as nothing more than ‘buzz’. The point of my posting the vid on my blog and on FR is because of the message. It has nothing to do with being ‘sophmoric’, ‘amateur’, or whatever. It’s the message that is meaningful.

Sorry, but you and the liberals are the only ones who believe that the threat from Islam and the War on Terror are ‘old news’. Some of us have learned out lesson from 9/11, and others (you?) have not. Sad.


37 posted on 03/31/2008 1:05:02 PM PDT by Leigh Patrick Sullivan
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To: Leigh Patrick Sullivan; cricket

Your comments to Cricket were doubtless meant for me. The film is meaningless unless it gets to its proper audience, and that would be the Muslims who should have a Reformation.


38 posted on 03/31/2008 1:07:31 PM PDT by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: Leigh Patrick Sullivan; RightWhale
IMHO; RW meant precisely what he said; that the film IS not only meaningless; but worse. ..'trite'. But whatever. . .I 'interject here'.

That said; the stats show that there have been high six-digit hits for 'Fitna-the Movie'.

. . .that IS good; save we do not know 'who' is checking in and viewing this. Muslim? Otherwise. . .or both. . .

39 posted on 03/31/2008 1:29:48 PM PDT by cricket (Damn Political Correctness; before it irretrievably, damns us all. . .)
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To: Leigh Patrick Sullivan
Sorry, but you and the liberals are the only ones who believe that the threat from Islam and the War on Terror are ‘old news’. Some of us have learned out lesson from 9/11, and others (you?) have not. Sad.

Now - with sound of wings flapping - realize that I missed this entirely; and yes, as per Right Whale's follow-up; you did have the wrong poster here!

IAE; I am the 'proponent' here; not the opponent or adversary here; (or worse; 'the OMG/God forbid, Liberal'!).

And. ..I will continue to share and so inform; as much as possible, 'Fitna - the Movie'. . .

40 posted on 03/31/2008 2:05:14 PM PDT by cricket (Damn Political Correctness; before it irretrievably, damns us all. . .)
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To: cricket

Yep - reread the thread and got the wrong guy. Damn this technology!!! :)

I agree that it would be great if Muslims were the ones watching the film. But, seeing as many of them already know what is happening, I believe the real target should be those who live in our countries and do not see the threat as real. This film, described by many as ‘mild’ compared to expectations, shows the truth.

It’s the anti-war liberal of the free world who need to watch this flick. If our side can’t agree that there is even a problem, winning the war will be impossible.


41 posted on 03/31/2008 4:39:33 PM PDT by Leigh Patrick Sullivan
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To: Leigh Patrick Sullivan
How about this?

The United Nations, Seretary General Ban Ki-moon re the posting of 'Fitna' on the Internet: . . .

(that) linking Islamist violence with passages from the Koran—would “incite retribution.”

[. . .]“We must recognize that the real fault lies not with the Muslims, but with those who would place their values ahead of those of other cultures,” Ban continued. “The West’s failure to yield the right-of-way is responsible for the collision with Islam. The sooner we learn to comply, the safer we will all be.”

Additional and insightful analysis/warning from John Semmens as well more from UN Secretary General at: AZConservative.org

Great to hear a political recipe for the demise of Western Civilization. Worse, it appears a recommendation!

So, without those like Geert Wilder and many et als; without our soldiers fighting. . .without leaders who understand this enemy and the threat; and as importantly, without informed - awakened - and ANGRY citizens'; our next generations WILL be doomed.

42 posted on 04/01/2008 2:07:39 PM PDT by cricket (Damn Political Correctness; before it irretrievably, damns us all. . .)
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To: Leigh Patrick Sullivan

Right now, the only threat that you and I need to watch out is our leader who might use this as their agenda to wage more war.


43 posted on 04/03/2008 9:20:23 AM PDT by Mike Powell
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To: Mike Powell

Right now, the only threat that you and I need to watch out is our leader who might use this as their agenda to wage more war.

__________

And your leader would be........?


44 posted on 04/03/2008 12:25:47 PM PDT by WakeUpAndVote (Typical white man.)
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To: WakeUpAndVote

Don’t worry pal, my king, prime minister and the country itself are not powerful enough even to wage a small skirmish with my country’s neighbour.

What I mean is we really need to consider our leaders action whatever this kind of thing happens. And may the leader of the powerful won’t simply use this as their another propaganda to their darker agenda.

My buddhist teacher once said to me, the greatest enemy is not from the outside, but it’s inside your mind and soul.


45 posted on 04/04/2008 9:19:57 AM PDT by Mike Powell
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