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Rozita Swinton Doesn’t Like the FLDS (abuse call came from her phone)
Dreamin Demon ^ | April 20th, 2008

Posted on 04/23/2008 1:30:49 PM PDT by Between the Lines

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To: Elsie
After the Civil War, the US government put an end to the illegal LDS theocracy in Utah.
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NOT Lincoln...

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During the Civil War, the South offered the Saints statehood if they would send troops fight with the South.

The Latter-Day Saints (LDS) stayed true to the United States, even though the government did not help address the wrongs done to the Saints, before being forced out of what was the United States at that time.

121 posted on 04/24/2008 11:15:20 AM PDT by fproy2222 ( Jesus is the Christ)
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To: fproy2222
I then said to my mother, “I have learned for myself that Presbyterianism is not true.”

Thanks again for posting what the Father and the Son taught Joseph Smith when he went to them in prayer.

Can YOU tell us just what Joseph Smith 'learned' (not believed) was UNTRUE about PRESBYTERIANISM?

122 posted on 04/24/2008 11:17:40 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

About 40 years passed after the end of the Civil War before the Feds were able to convince the LDS Church (through brute force) to officially end polygamy.
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But... but...

. . . I saw exactly what would come to pass if there was not something done. I have had this spirit upon me for a long time. But I want to say this: I should have let all the temples go out of our hands; I should have gone to prison myself, and let every other man go there, had not the God of heaven commanded me to do what I did do; and when the hour came that I was commanded to do that, it was all clear to me. I went before the Lord, and I wrote what the Lord told me to write. . . .

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Thanks again for posting God’s words to one of His Prophets.


123 posted on 04/24/2008 11:19:11 AM PDT by fproy2222 ( Jesus is the Christ)
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To: fproy2222
The Latter-Day Saints (LDS) stayed true to the United States, even though the government did not help address the wrongs done to the Saints, before being forced out of what was the United States at that time.

SOMEbody did a mighty poor job of FORCING anyone; since a big bunch of LDS folks decided to stay behind and thrive.

(Don't you wish YOUR group had title to the properties that the old RLDS has? ;^)

124 posted on 04/24/2008 11:20:14 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: higgmeister

Well there is not shortage of conspiracy theories on the way this sect was busted. I was reading on another blog one person wonders if this Rozita was set up because she was black and poor since the authorities had to get ‘somebody’ -while the caller ‘Sarah’ is laying dead in a ditch somewhere. The blogger was saying it’s probably because ‘Sarah’ is white and Rozita is black.

People will concoct the most outrageous stuff to justify their own weirdness.


125 posted on 04/24/2008 11:29:21 AM PDT by austinaero
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To: svcw; Choose Ye This Day
I am unsure why you brought up Catholics but oh well.
The question was “why is wideawake a liar?”
He said lds alow abortion with deformed babies - that is true.
You said lds allow abortions with deformed babies - that is true.
Lds allow abortion with deformed babies - that is true.
Now you wished to clarify the policy “allow” fine but what wideawke said is true.

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Why do you folks keep leaving out the rest of the statement?

Remember, the baby must not have a chance of living past the birth, not just have any deformity.

But then again, you folks need something bad to say about the LDS, so you often forget the rest of our teachings and make a hale-truth look like what you want it to be.

126 posted on 04/24/2008 11:34:54 AM PDT by fproy2222 ( Jesus is the Christ)
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To: higgmeister

I agree: ripping these children from their parents is about as traumatizing an event as could ever happen to them, perhaps equal to whatever sexual abuse some have experienced. And what of the children to whom no sexual abuse was perpetrated? They are now scarred for life just as deeply. I am speaking from first-hand experience, here, not just spouting an opinion.


127 posted on 04/24/2008 11:35:57 AM PDT by Ignatz (I actually said that with a straight face.)
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To: Rome2000
evidence of prolonged and ritualized sexual abuse on the Yearning For Zion compound, even down to a marital bed in the temple itself and many minor children who are pregnant or have had babies by much older relatives.
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Thats just Mormonism, Mitt Romney could tell us all about it.

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You seem to not care if you confuse the actions of the Flds with the LDS Church. Again the Flds has nothing to do with the LDS Church.

128 posted on 04/24/2008 11:41:02 AM PDT by fproy2222 ( Jesus is the Christ)
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To: svcw
Cute.
But it still does not give answer to the question, “why is wideawke a liar?”

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I saw him do it.

Now, you can also do it.

Or you can keep saying what you are saying.

129 posted on 04/24/2008 11:43:26 AM PDT by fproy2222 ( Jesus is the Christ)
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To: svcw
Wow, what a stretch, telling some they do not tell the truth is calling them a liar.
You may dance around it all you want but telling someone they are not telling the truth IS calling them a liar.
So to conclude, telling someone they are not telling the truth IS calling them a liar.

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You really should reread the official statement again and see how your people have misrepensted it.

130 posted on 04/24/2008 11:46:49 AM PDT by fproy2222 ( Jesus is the Christ)
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To: Elsie

Can YOU tell us just what Joseph Smith ‘learned’ (not believed) was UNTRUE about PRESBYTERIANISM?

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This isn’t the first thread I have answered this for you.

It is even in the part of the scriptures you keep posting.

And if you want to know why Joseph was speaking about Presbyterianism, as you often ask,you should read the part of the scripture that come before what you post.

That answer is there if you would study the rest.


131 posted on 04/24/2008 11:58:30 AM PDT by fproy2222 ( Jesus is the Christ)
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To: Elsie
The Latter-Day Saints (LDS) stayed true to the United States, even though the government did not help address the wrongs done to the Saints, before being forced out of what was the United States at that time.

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SOMEbody did a mighty poor job of FORCING anyone; since a big bunch of LDS folks decided to stay behind and thrive.

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Yep, a few stayed behind, but not as a group, and not as a voting block, but as a few here and a few there.

132 posted on 04/24/2008 12:03:34 PM PDT by fproy2222 ( Jesus is the Christ)
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To: fproy2222

Ahhh, I did say “you clarified” but that does not make wideawakes statement untrue.
Keep trying.............


133 posted on 04/24/2008 12:30:47 PM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: fproy2222

Ok, this post got me, I do not have a clue as to the point.


134 posted on 04/24/2008 12:31:44 PM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: fproy2222

My people?
I don’t have “people” but if I did they would be talking to your people regarding your posts because much of the time I am just not getting your points.


135 posted on 04/24/2008 12:33:42 PM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: svcw
My people?
I don’t have “people” but if I did they would be talking to your people regarding your posts because much of the time I am just not getting your points.
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The way you post here, and what you say here, looks to me that your among the anti-Mormon people.

136 posted on 04/24/2008 12:38:44 PM PDT by fproy2222 ( Jesus is the Christ)
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To: Elsie

Just hoping against hope......ok, that doesn’t work I am LOL, tried to be serious......


137 posted on 04/24/2008 12:39:17 PM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: svcw
Ok, this post got me, I do not have a clue as to the point.

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The point is that the answer is there and you chose to make it look like it is not.

Go study and you can find it if you really missed it.

138 posted on 04/24/2008 12:41:30 PM PDT by fproy2222 ( Jesus is the Christ)
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To: fproy2222

Nope.
I am anti-unBiblical truths.


139 posted on 04/24/2008 12:47:03 PM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: fproy2222

Ok, let us review:
when you say someone is not telling the truth - you are calling them a liar.
When you say someone is not telling the whole truth, I guess you could argue you are calling them half a liar.
No, that just does not work: not telling the whole truth, half a truth, only a smidgen of the truth accusation is calling someone a liar.


140 posted on 04/24/2008 12:51:33 PM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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