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Rozita Swinton Doesn’t Like the FLDS (abuse call came from her phone)
Dreamin Demon ^ | April 20th, 2008

Posted on 04/23/2008 1:30:49 PM PDT by Between the Lines

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To: fproy2222
I can only go with the Lords statement.

Just WHAT did the Lord say?

161 posted on 04/25/2008 4:40:55 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: fproy2222
You take a part truth, add a part untruth.

Just what UNTRUTH did I add?

Is it ALSO written in invisible ink?

162 posted on 04/25/2008 4:42:12 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: fproy2222
Why are there so many ways to be saved, given there is only one Bible?

Dang!

Ask your 'founder' why he ADDED even another 'way' to be saved; not us!


Maybe you can answer the question that took me out of a Bible only church back in the 70’s.

Answering questions seems to run in one direction.

163 posted on 04/25/2008 4:44:10 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Between the Lines
Now that Texas knows the entire operation was based upon a lie, don't they have to return the children and apologize?

How can a court uphold a prosecution where the warrant was based upon perjured testimony?

164 posted on 04/25/2008 4:59:27 AM PDT by deuteronlmy232 (Joh 8:44a Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do.)
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To: fproy2222

There is no plan B.
One way and one way only.


165 posted on 04/25/2008 6:00:15 AM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: higgmeister

“Do you understand that it is possible that Democrat dirty tricksters might look for unfolding events and attempt to manipulate them at a convenient time with just an anonymous tip to give them political advantage?”

This strikes me as very similar to the Monika Lewinsky “talking points” and the “intercepted” New Gingrich cell phone call. The timing in this case being arranged perhaps to put Mormonism in a bad light and affect Mitt Romney’s chances of getting the VP slot.

Never get between a Clinton (especially Hillary) and what it wants.


166 posted on 04/25/2008 6:02:58 AM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: PLMerite
The timing in this case being arranged perhaps to put Mormonism in a bad light and affect Mitt Romney’s chances of getting the VP slot.

Well...

...that would be just about ANY time!

167 posted on 04/25/2008 11:18:43 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Then there were the hundreds, maybe thousands of Saints that lost there homes that the mob members took over.

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Sorry; but your impassioned statement is a bit hyperbolic.

If I ABANDON my home & property where I live; I can guarantee you that it WILL be ‘taken over’ by someone.

When your ‘leader’ yells “Wagons West!”; whatcha gonna do?

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You seem to want to forget that the people who took over the propriety were the ones that drove the saints out.

Do you remember what state it was that the governor signed an order to kill all the Mormons? I remember it was governor Boggs, but I forget the state.

168 posted on 04/25/2008 12:23:25 PM PDT by fproy2222 ( Jesus is the Christ)
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To: Elsie

It is in what you post, but you pretend is not there.

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No; you CLAIM it is there, but cannot SHOW it to us.

Why not?

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Reread your post. It is about half way down and easy to see, unless you do not want to find it.


169 posted on 04/25/2008 12:26:01 PM PDT by fproy2222 ( Jesus is the Christ)
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To: norton
No body in El Dorado Texas noticed an area code from two states away?? Also, ask yourself how you'd feel if poor li'l Rozita had claimed to be an underage rape victim in your basement.

I asked this question a week ago, based what I read and where the investigation seemed to be going.

There would be clear telephone records of this.

170 posted on 04/25/2008 12:30:25 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: svcw
There is no plan B.
One way and one way only.

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Ok, which of the ways to be saved is the correct one.

A. God saves only the ones He wants, you can do nothing. B. God saves everyone, you can do nothing. C. God makes you do something to be saved.
D. All of the above.
E. none of the above.

171 posted on 04/25/2008 12:33:01 PM PDT by fproy2222 ( Jesus is the Christ)
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To: Myrddin
She needs to be prosecuted for filing a false report and lying about her identity. Further, all the people at the FLDS facility whose lives have been turned upside down should sue her civilly for the financial losses (having to hire lawyers) and other expenses caused by her false report. I expect lots of civil suits against the various Texas agencies that have disrupted life at the FLDS community on a flimsy hoax call. There may be some legitimate misbehavior that needs to be exposed and prosecuted, but that is likely a fairly small number of individuals.

I agree. This entire event and the investigation was tainted and mishandled from the very beginning. Everything that follows is suspect.

172 posted on 04/25/2008 12:40:35 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: fproy2222
You seem to want to forget that the people who took over the propriety were the ones that drove the saints out.

You seem to forget that they did a VERY poor job of 'driving them out'.


Do you remember what state it was that the governor signed an order to kill all the Mormons?

The STATE did a VERY poor job of 'killing all the Mormons'!

173 posted on 04/25/2008 4:54:19 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: fproy2222
Reread your post. It is about half way down and easy to see, unless you do not want to find it.

Reread MY post. It is NOWHERE to be seen, unless you do not want to show it to us.

Why can't you just answer...

What did Joseph Smith 'learn' to be UNTRUE about PRESBYTERIANISM?

174 posted on 04/25/2008 4:56:20 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: fproy2222
Ok, which of the ways to be saved is the correct one.

You left out something.

175 posted on 04/25/2008 4:57:25 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MapleLeafForever; UCANSEE2; metmom; SkyPilot; greyfoxx39
Heres a link for you. Date...April 25, 2008, 6:00PM http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/5729490.html

If you bother to read it you will see that it clearly shows that there was underage sex. One young mother told investigators that she was 15 when she gave birth to her first child. Texas law prohibits children under 16 from being married.

Also mothers are allowed to see their children as it clearly states here... As the women boarded separate buses for their chosen destination, they were given a packet explaining how their children would be cared for in coming weeks. The state will work with all of the mothers, no matter where they went, to ensure they can visit their children, Crimmins said.

There has been some changes with the women too as it says here Forty women opted Thursday to go to a family violence shelter rather than return to the West Texas ranch where authorities allege children are unsafe because of the polygamist group's practice of "spiritually marrying" underage girls to older men.

Plus...The department again revised its count of children in state custody upward to 462, saying it believes that 25 females who had said they were adults are instead minors. An affidavit for a second, broader search warrant alleged that investigators found evidence that underage girls were "spiritually married" to older men and forced to have sex.CPS investigators said those practices put all girls at risk of sexual abuse and all boys at risk of becoming men who abuse minor girls.

As for Warren Jeffs, the Great Vile Pervert... Also Thursday, the head of the FLDS, Warren Jeffs, lost a bid for a new trial. A Utah judge rejected the request from Jeffs, who was convicted in September in southern Utah for his role in arranging the marriage of a 14-year-old girl to an older cousin. He is jailed in Arizona awaiting trial in another case.

That is wonderful news! I hope he stays in jail forever! Maybe this will answer some of your questions.

176 posted on 04/25/2008 5:18:22 PM PDT by pandoraou812 (Out, damned spot............OUT .. Keep it sweet my arse!)
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To: phrogphlyer
This sets a dangerous precedent - removing 400+ children from their families on the basis of one phone call. But, it's for the children, so I guess that makes it all OK, right?

This particular talking point has been repeated and disproven so many times I'm surprised anyone still uses it.

177 posted on 04/25/2008 5:53:48 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Don't just do something! Stand there!)
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To: fproy2222

For someone who claims to be a God fearing person I shudder that you mock Him in such a fashion.


178 posted on 04/25/2008 6:57:13 PM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: Elsie

Reread your post. It is about half way down and easy to see, unless you do not want to find it.

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Reread MY post. It is NOWHERE to be seen, unless you do not want to show it to us.

Why can’t you just answer...

What did Joseph Smith ‘learn’ to be UNTRUE about PRESBYTERIANISM?

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You are able to read and understand, even though you seem not to want to..


179 posted on 04/25/2008 11:29:23 PM PDT by fproy2222 ( Jesus is the Christ)
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To: svcw
For someone who claims to be a God fearing person I shudder that you mock Him in such a fashion.

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I am not mocking Father. He knows how we are saved.

I am asking a “Bible only” person which of the many ways the Bible really says we are saved.

Different people have studied the Bible and gotten these many ways to be saved. All from the same set of words.

So again, by your understanding, which way is the right way that God uses to save us?

180 posted on 04/25/2008 11:39:10 PM PDT by fproy2222 ( Jesus is the Christ)
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