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Communism in Chicago and the Obama Connection (Special Report)
America's Survival ^ | May 22, 2008 | Cliff Kinkaid

Posted on 05/23/2008 12:19:59 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts

On February 22, 2008, Ben Smith of Politico reported a story that ran under the headline, “Obama once visited ‘60s radicals.” It concerned how, “In 1995, [Illinois] State Senator Alice Palmer introduced her chosen successor, Barack Obama, to few of the district’s influencial liberal at the home of two will known figures on the local left: William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn.” Dr. Quentin Young, described as “a prominent Chicago physician and advocate for single-payers health care,” [1] was quoted as saying “I can remember being one of small group of people who came to Bill Ayers’ house to learn that Alice Palmer was stepping down from the senate and running for Congress.” [2]

All of these figures – Palmer, Ayers, Dohrn and Young – are much more than the Politico described. The evidence assembled in this report suggest that these individuals – and many more – are part of a network of people with socialist and/or communist connections who have been a key part of Obama’s life and career...

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1 posted on 05/23/2008 12:20:02 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Bookmark for later read.


2 posted on 05/23/2008 12:26:10 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: GodGunsGuts; Ohioan

While I give him credit for not just cashing-in on a Harvard Law degree in the few years after his graduation, I would like to know some of the specifics of what “community organizing” Mr. Obama did in those years.


3 posted on 05/23/2008 12:32:01 PM PDT by ProCivitas (Pro-Family = Natural Marriage + Fathers' Rights + Pro-Life + Traditional Divorce Standards)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Virtually since birth, this Obama guy has been surrounded by practicing Communists and active anti-Americans.

His career has been importantly directed and forwarded with their assistance.

He often says things that suggest he is, himself, at least a fellow traveler.

One is reminded of the maxim: If it walks like a duck...

4 posted on 05/23/2008 12:33:49 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: ProCivitas

Thomas Sowell has written that BOH worked for ACORN during that time.

Google ACORN, you can’t find a more criminal corrupt leftist org than ACORN.

Wonder where all those votes come from......ACORN has been convicted numerous times across the USA for voter fraud.

What is even more amazing is the enemedia blackout of this ACORN “experience” that BOH has.

Not amazing to us but ........


5 posted on 05/23/2008 12:36:17 PM PDT by Seeking the truth (Queen Hillary faux postage stamps - 0cents.com)
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To: Robert DeLong; ProCivitas; okie01; Seeking the truth

I can’t believe it, this one was moved to bloggers and personal too! This thing is HUGE.


6 posted on 05/23/2008 12:49:07 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
It's hard to believe, but there are so-called conservatives who plan to sit out this election or vote 3rd party, thereby helping elect Obamie the Commie. Wake up, people. This guy is not "another Jimmy Carter," as many on FR think. Jimmah is a dope, but he never had such associates throughout his politically formative years.
7 posted on 05/23/2008 2:08:37 PM PDT by hellbender
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To: Beckwith; Rome2000; SJackson; dennisw; Thunder90; Tailgunner Joe; TigerLikesRooster; ...

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8 posted on 05/23/2008 3:40:14 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: hellbender

Very true, he’s not benign in any way, shape or form.


9 posted on 05/23/2008 3:49:16 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: bruinbirdman; hosepipe; dixie sass; AFPhys; fieldmarshaldj; LibertyRocks; The Duke; KingJaja; ...

This one is the most fightening one of all. As with the first report, we should be getting this out to every news organization who will listen. Obama may very well be a stealth Communist under strict party discipline. Get the word out to our fellow FReepers!—GGG


10 posted on 05/23/2008 6:39:18 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: All
PS We should be encouraging the powers that be to give this information the prominence it deserves (this was moved to bloggers and personal, of all places!)—GGG
11 posted on 05/23/2008 6:41:41 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: okie01

More on Obama at AN AMERICAN EXPAT IN SOUTHEAST ASIA blog site: http://laotze.blogspot.com

He has some extensive research on Obama.


12 posted on 05/23/2008 6:52:44 PM PDT by Kackikat ((No strong national security, and the rest of issues are mute points; chaos ensues.))
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ping


13 posted on 05/23/2008 7:17:39 PM PDT by AliVeritas (I'm a racist Afro-Leninist, clinging to Darwin, abortion and food stamps. I jest.)
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To: GodGunsGuts; All

I’m sending a couple of notes one one trail I followed... if you really want to get in depth. What’s that, you do?
Glad to hear it. Tangent post warning.

There’s a lot of blanks left to fill in... but I have hundreds like this. I would appreciate your help.

I started on this thread/Obama’s World Series, then went from there. Things I found along the way.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2012926/posts

*Red Baby
Obama-file 10 Barack Obama and the Socialist “Mafia”
http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/02/obama-file-10-barack-obama-and.html

***Obama-file 20 Young Communist League Backs Barack Obama-Again
http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/02/obama-file-20-young-communist-league.html

Obama-file 19 Obama ‘08 “All the Way With DSA”
http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/02/obama-file-19-obama-08-all-way-with-dsa.html

Obama-file 18 Will Obama Be the Communist Party’s “People’s President”?
http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/02/obama-file-18-will-obama-be-communist.html

Obama-file 17 Major Union Federation Endorses Barack Obama-More Socialist Links
http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/02/obama-file-17-union-federation-endorses.html

**Obama-file 16 Barack Obama and the Legacy of Harold Washington
http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/02/obama-file-16-obama-and-legacy-of.html

Obama-file 15 Socialist Octagenarians for Barack
http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/02/obama-file-15-socialist-octagenarians.html

*-—ALSO PALMER
She wasn’t successful, but Obama refused to stand aside and went on to win the seat unopposed-after getting all his opponents (including Palmer) disqualified on voting technicalities.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-070403obama-ballot,0,1843097.story

Obama-file 14 Socialist Led Mega-Union Backs Barack Obama
http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/02/obama-file-14-socialist-led-mega-union.html

*—
Barack Obama was a disciple of Alinsky while working a “community organisor” in Chicago in the early “80s. later he did considerable legal work for the radical community group ACORN, which is closely linked to the Midwest Academy.

http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:bort_af2fxAJ:www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/opinion/columnists/datelinedc/s_488184.html+barack+obama+acorn&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=nz

ACORN and Chicago DSA formed the backbone of the leftist New Party which Obama worked closely with during his successful 1996 Illinois State Senate bid.
(SEE FILE 4)

ITS LOADED WITH OTHER LINKS DSA/O

***Obama-file 13 Top Communist Not Fooled By Obama’s Critics
http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/02/obama-file-13-top-communist-not-fooled.html

*—Senator Obama Continues to Mobilize People for Progressive Change

Elections are, among other things exercises in mobilizing masses of people to advance politically, not only electing individuals and parties to ostensibly represent the people. Barack Obama is campaigning for substantive progressive change and he is making change, confounding mass media week to week...

Obama’s speech in the aftermath of the primary was a continuation of his clear, focused and eloquent call for unity and active commitment to a progressive program. The people were listening if the media wasn’t...

I wrote an article very recently on Obama’s background and policies... let me say that I was surprised, in doing research for it, on how really progressive a candidate Obama is, and how the media and especially sections of the left have refused to take him seriously, preferring instead to play out their fixed ideas as the political landscape changes before them.

I was surprised because I had listened to the endless comments about his vagueness, the rich and powerful among his supporters...

But, like Robert Wagner who came out of New York’s Tammany Hall and was the major sponsor of the National Labor Relations Act (still the most significant piece of pro labor legislation in U.S. history)...

Obama is convincing more and more people that he can answer Lenin’s question, What is to be Done? with the answer that Franklin Roosevelt gave when he rallied American workers to win the battle of production during World War II, “It Can be Done because It Must be Done.”

http://paeditorsblog.blogspot.com/2008/02/senator-obama-continues-to-mobilize.html

Obama-file 12 Jan Schakowsky-Barack Obama’s Loyal Socialist Supporter
http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/02/obama-file-12-jan-schakowsky-barack.html

c:
I wonder how people like you then can explain how Obama’s foreign policy advisor-Robert Maller:

http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=8&x_nameinnews=88&x_article=1437

Whose father had a high-ranking position within the Egyptian Communist Party is now Obama’s advisor? Robert Maller was also behind the failed Camp David meeting during his time in the Clinton Administration, and now someone like this is advising a major political campaign?

Obama-file 11 Communists Muster Latino Vote for Barack Obama
http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/02/obama-file-11-communists-muster-latino.html

TEN ABOVE AT START

Obama-file 9 US Communists Explain Backing For Barack Obama
http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/02/obama-file-9-us-communists-explain.html

Obama-file 8 Baltimore Communists Back Obama
http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/01/obama-file-8-baltimore-communists-back.html

—*Important side note:
Young Communist League Infiltrates US Democrats
http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2007/06/how-young-communist-league-infiltrates.html

Obama-file 7 Barack Obama and the Democratic Socialists of America
http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/01/obama-file-7-barack-obama-and.html

*—From Chicago DSA’s New Ground March 1996

Over three hundred people attended the first of two Town Meetings on Economic Insecurity on February 25 in Ida Noyes Hall at the University of Chicago. Entitled “Employment and Survival in Urban America”, the meeting was sponsored by the UofC DSA Youth Section, Chicago DSA and University Democrats.

The panelists were Toni Preckwinkle, Alderman of Chicago’s 4th Ward; Barack Obama, candidate for the 13th Illinois Senate District; Professor William Julius Wilson, Center for the Study of Urban Inequality at the University of Chicago; Professor Michael Dawson, University of Chicago; and Professor Joseph Schwartz, Temple University and a member of DSA’s National Political Committee.

Obama-file 6 Bolshevik Barbara Bolsters Obama
http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/01/obama-file-6-bolshevik-barbara-bolsters.html

*—In 1983 Dellums was guest of honour at Chicago DSA’s 1983 Norman Thomas-Eugene V. Debs Dinner-an event later associated with several Barack Obama supporters.

http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/01/obama-file-3-socialist-unionists.html

?Why would a militant socialist like Barbara Lee want to back a “moderate” like Barack Obama?

****Obama-file 5 Barack Obama Courted Chicago Marxists, Peace Activists (Note SDS/WU link, WOW)

http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/01/obama-file-5-barack-obama-courted.html

*—From the Marxism Mailing List archive

I’m from Chicago, too, and known Obama from the time he came to the New Party to get our endorsement for his first race ever. I’ve been in his home, and as an IL legislator, he’s helped or community technology movement a number of times. He said all the right things to the ACORN and New Party folks, and we endorsed him, but I noticed too, that he seemed to measure every answer to questions put to him several tmes before coming out with it.

That was in 1996.

He spoke at our first antiwar rally. He spent most of his speech detailing all the wars in history he supported, then finally made a distinction between just wars and ‘dumb’ wars, and going into Iraq, which was still six months down the road then, was a ‘dumb war,’ and he flatly opposed it. Good, that put him on our side, and some of us organized a fundraiser for him for his Senate race.

The anti War rally was in 2002. Obama’s Senate race was in 2004.

After he visited Iraq when the war was on, he turned. Now we had to set aside whether it was right or wrong to invade, now we had to find the ‘smart’ path to victory, not Bush’s ‘dumb’ path. Also, in dealing with Iran, we had to leave on the table bombing their nuclear sites. For this, a lot of the local antiwar activists started calling him ‘Barack ‘Obomb ‘em’. He wasn’t listening much to us anymore, but to folks much higher up in the DLC orbit. He had bigger plans.

{Check this}
Actually, Obama has other friends in Chicago, that you ought to be even more concerned about: http://flyingdebris.blogspot.com/2008/01/obama-still-allied-with-granny-grifter.html

** Check bottom links as well
http://news.technophobiac.com/2008/04/24/obama-art-says-much-about-the-candidate/

Ayers, Wright, Farrakhan, Obama, it’s ALL Marxism
Obama Channels Marx on Masses’ Reverence for Religion
Death of Obama/Hillary’s Socialism in Two Graphs
Obama’s Marxist Underpinnings. Is it any wonder he said what he said?

**Obama-file 4 Obama Was Endorsed by Far Left “New Party”
(DSA, ACORN, CoCorr, mindset)

*—From New Ground 42 Sep/Oct 1995

About 50 activists attended the Chicago New Party membership meeting in July. The purpose of the meeting was to update members on local activities and to hear appeals for NP support from four potential political candidates. The NP is being very active in organization building and politics...

The political entourage included Alderman Michael Chandler, William Delgado, chief of staff for State Rep Miguel del Valle, and spokespersons for State Sen. Alice Palmer, Sonya Sanchez, chief of staff for State Sen. Jesse Garcia, who is running for State Rep in Garcia’s District; and Barack Obama, chief of staff for State Sen. Alice Palmer. Obama is running for Palmer’s vacant seat...

Although ACORN and SEIU Local 880 were the harbingers of the NP there was a strong presence of CoC and DSA (15% DSA)... Four political candidates were “there” seeking NP support.

Barack Obama won the 1996 election, by using legal technicalities to get all his opponents disqualified-but he still used New Party volunteers in his campaign.


The Militant Muslim Family of Barack Hussein Obama
http://faultlineusa.blogspot.com/2008/01/militant-muslim-family-of-barack.html
What Obama’s church Teaches
http://righttruth.typepad.com/right_truth/2007/02/what_obamas_chu.html

***Good link on ACORN, fraud
http://backyardconservative.blogspot.com/2008/01/audacity-and-hypocrisy.html

***Obama-file 3 Socialist Unionists Endorse Barack Obama
http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/01/obama-file-3-socialist-unionists.html

Socialist, Roberta Lynch, presents the 2002 Debs - Thomas - Harrington Award to Tom Balanoff

Balanoff is a longtime friend and supporter of Barack Obama.

Tom Balanoff, president of the SEIU Illinois State Council, said Obama’s voting record is sound, with votes against trade deals like the Central America Free Trade Agreement and support for issues such as the Employee Free Choice Act. “We know that he’s the real thing,” Balanoff said.

-Henry Tamarin accepts the 2006 Debs - Thomas - Harrington award

A former student leftist, Tamarin has been involved with Barack Obama in the socialist dominated Independent Voters of Illinois.

Chicago DSA openly endorsed Barack Obama in his first election-the 1996 contest for a seat in the Illinois State Senate.

It seems Chicago DSA may be backing Obama again-just a little more discreetly this time.

****Obama-file 2 Barack Obama Was Endorsed by Chicago Marxists
http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/01/obama-file-2-barack-obama-was-endorsed.html

*—Carol Moseley Braun was also close to and enthusiastically backed by the Communist Party and DSA. Barack Obama helped her get her Senate seat then later took it over when Mosely Braun briefly ran for the US Presidency in 2004.

*****Side link: Good exploration of Barack as caricature on one page with links
http://thejiggaangle.blogspot.com/2008/04/obama-caricature.html

*The Obama-file 1 Forget Islam-Look at Obama’s Socialism!

*—
http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2007/03/barack-obamas-marxist-mentor.html

http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2007/06/why-do-communists-back-barack.html

http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2007/06/how-young-communist-league-infiltrates.html

http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2007/06/american-communist-idol-barack-obama.html

http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/01/barack-obama-marxist-mole.html

NOTE, JUST FOUND MORE OBAMA FILES/

***Red enough to be spotted from afar
http://silentrunning.tv/?p=2732

http://www.aim.org/aim-column/obamas-communist-mentor/

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/02/19/michelle-obamas-thesis-embargoed-until-after-the-election/

I didn’t know Clinton had a minority of the popular vote, ironic
http://libertyscott.blogspot.com/2008/02/super-dooper-tuesday.html

Find that newsletter
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=RNWE,RNWE:2005-01,RNWE:en&q=Saul+Mendelson+eulogy+obama

*****Obama’s Socialist Relationships
http://nalert.blogspot.com/2008/02/obamas-socialist-relationships.html

Chicago DSA Endorsements in the March 19th Primary Election
http://www.chicagodsa.org/ngarchive/ng45.html

“So long, Saul, old friend. We will miss your information on foreign events, the election predictions and the dinners Marion and I have had with you and Jennie. You took a lot with you when you left us. But you left a lot more behind that we will never forget.”
http://www.chicagodsa.org/ngarchive/ng58.html

WE’LL NEED THIS.... EXPLORE START HERE
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=RNWE,RNWE:2005-01,RNWE:en&q=Saul+Mendelson+bill+ayers+obama

WITH THIS ONE:
http://papundits.wordpress.com/2008/04/28/no-obamanation-part-3-another-marx-brother/

http://obamawtf.blogspot.com/2008/03/obamas-list-of-shady-associates-keeps.html

http://www.hyscience.com/archives/2008/03/questions_for_o.php


http://www.chicagodsa.org/ngarchive/ng69.html

In New Ground 69 March - April, 2000 Obama again is mentioned.One of the few politicians mentioned for endorsement:
For Congressman of the 1st Congressional District, the Executive Committee was faced with two very good candidates. As we are not making endorsements but merely recommendations, we felt no conflict in recommending both Bobby Rush and Barak Obama.

Bobby Rush is the incumbent Congressman. He was also a candidate for Mayor of Chicago in the last municipal elections, endorsed by Chicago DSA. While he hasn’t always been the ideal Congressman from a left perspective (being a cosponsor of the “NAFTA for Africa” bill, for example), he’s generally been quite good. To volunteer, call 773 264 7874. Contributions may be made to Citizens for Rush, 514 E. 95th St., Chicago, IL 60619.

Barak Obama is serving only his second term in the Illinois State Senate so he might be fairly charged with ambition, but the same might have be said of Bobby Rush when he ran against Congressman Charles Hayes. Obama also has put in time at the grass roots, working for five years as a community organizer in Harlem and in Chicago. When Obama participated in a 1996 UofC YDS Townhall Meeting on Economic Insecurity, much of what he had to say was well within the mainstream of European social democracy. To volunteer, call 773 846 2262. Contributions may be sent to Obama for Congress 2000, PO Box 497987, Chicago, IL 60649.
There you have it, the Chicago Democratic Socialists view Obama’s views “well within the mainstream of European social democracy.” Why did Barack Obama earn the affection of the Chicago Democratic Socialists of America? How often did Barack Obama meet with Chicago DSA? Is Obama a member of the Chicago DSA? Does Obama want to turn America into a European style socialist democracy?

When Vermont Congressman,self-described socialist Bernie Sanders,decided he’d run for Senate:Obama came to Vermont to endorse him.Obama could have endorsed the logical candidate the slated Democratic candidate,but he choose socialist Bernie Sanders.Here’s some of the quotes from the endorsement:Obama calls Bernie Sanders an “outstanding candidate”,Obama says “things can change”,Obama said “I want to make sure everybody is as enthusiastic as I am” concerning Bernie Sanders and “only a handful of wrong headed people don’t like him.” These amazing quotes are on this video the Obama campaign hopes you don’t see.Obama doesn’t seem to mind endorsing and hanging out with socialists.

***ALWAYS START AT HOME
Problems back home?Mar 2, 2008 ... CAMPAIGN 2008 | Chicagoans in Obama’s life likely targets of McCain, GOP ... Saul Mendelson Khaleel Ahmed Zubair A. Ahmed Talat M. Othman ...

CONTINUE DIG
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=RNWE,RNWE:2005-01,RNWE:en&q=Saul+Mendelson+obama

Yikes, get on this dig first***
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=RNWE,RNWE:2005-01,RNWE:en&q=debs+dinner+obama
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1979267/posts


14 posted on 05/23/2008 7:26:47 PM PDT by AliVeritas (I'm a racist Afro-Leninist, clinging to Darwin, abortion and food stamps. I jest.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

“...Obama may very well be a stealth Communist under strict party discipline.”

GGG, I agree we must find out positively about Obama’s history, his associations, his beliefs, his intentions as President of our Nation.

I don’t agree we hasten reporting on this in particular until we have proof positive. Could be more damaging to NOT have substantiating proof. Granted the Dems do it all the time to kill off their opposition, but we don’t have the MSM resources they have created in our back pockets as they have in theirs.

I did not read the article as it’s PDF, and I detest PDF. My thoughts were inspired by your posting: “Obama may...”.

It’s in Blogger/Personal for a reason. That being the word “may”.


15 posted on 05/23/2008 7:41:06 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: AliVeritas

I didn’t see this one in your links:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1993920/posts

In addition to the story about Obama’s “uncle,” who tried to overthrow the government of Kenya on behalf of the Soviets and Red Chinese, there are also plenty of good links in the thread about how he campaigned for his Marxist-Leninist “cousin” who was trained in Soviet East Germany, attempted several coups against the government of Kenya, and recently ran for President of the same.


16 posted on 05/23/2008 7:41:45 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: rockinqsranch
Did you see the credentials of the person who helped put it together? It is none other than Herbert Romerstein, author of the “Venona Secrets.”

Romerstein was also an “Investigator for the House Committee on Un-American Activities, Minority Chief Investigator for the House Committee on Internal Security, Professional Staff Member for the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, and head of the Office of Counter Soviet Disinformation for the United States Information Agency” etc, etc, etc.

In other words, he knows that of which he speaks! What they are saying is that this material needs to be further investigated, and Obama needs to be asked about it by the MSM...MSNBC will never do it, but outfits like FOX News might pick it up. The facts of the report are beyond dispute, and the report includes facsimiles of the primary documents in question. Very scary stuff...especially the material on Obama's Chicago connection. I think the mods didn't know what they were dealing with when they moved it to the bloggers and personal section. Hopefully we will see these special reports get the attention they deserve once the mods come to grips with their true importance--GGG

17 posted on 05/23/2008 7:51:53 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: rockinqsranch

PS “may be under strict party discipline” was my conjecture based on the (extremely damning) evidence presented in the reports. It’s more than enough to start asking him questions, if not in the MSM, then in the conservative press until such time as we start getting answers...that includes doing our part right here on FR! It certainly wouldn’t be the first time FR made the news!!!


18 posted on 05/23/2008 8:00:48 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Yes I noted the credentials, and am aware by reading much about Obama’s past, Chicago etc.

Just concerned as I’ve seen over the years the absolute best taken out, discredited, humiliated with slick manuevering by expert Leftist manipulations of the truth. This is an area the Dems, Libs, Socialists excel with help of the mischievous fairies I’ve noted in my tag line for a number of years.

Seriously though, I note in your response once again the need to investigate. I believe in Romerstein’s credibility, but I also believe as stated the need to investigate, but subtantiate as well. We’re dealing with some pretty slick characters when we go up against their desired image with truth.


19 posted on 05/23/2008 8:11:37 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Beckwith

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20 posted on 05/23/2008 8:19:38 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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