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The cost of a Appendectomy - Help wanted from a Brit!!
06/23/08 | vanity

Posted on 06/23/2008 8:34:39 AM PDT by vimto

My lad is in America waiting for a visa to live there and marry a lovely American lass. He was taken ill and went to hospital where an appendectomy was performed. The bill is $28,000 minimum. We think he has medical cover but we don't know the datils ...is ths figure about right? Anyone out there with any advice?


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: health; healthcare; hillarycare; insurance; medicalcare
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To: mware

Thanks indeed - good luck to your sister and yourself!


21 posted on 06/23/2008 8:49:28 AM PDT by vimto (To do the right thing you don't have to be intelligent - you have to be brave (Sasz))
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To: vimto
Try this.
22 posted on 06/23/2008 8:50:02 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: vimto

procedures performed, age, sex and discharge status. One DRG is assigned to each inpatient stay.
DRG
Description
Average Length of Stay (Days)5
National Average DRG Payment5
338
Appendectomy w complicated principal diag w MCC
10.9
$14,672.93
339
Appendectomy w complicated principal diag w CC
7.1
$10,662.56
340
Appendectomy w complicated principal diag w/o CC/MCC
4.3
$7,455.98
341
Appendectomy w/o complicated principal diag w MCC
7.3
$10,134.41
342
Appendectomy w/o complicated principal diag w CC
4.3
$7,301.47
343
Appendectomy w/o complicated principal diag w/o CC/MCC
2.3
$5,322.93


23 posted on 06/23/2008 8:51:18 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: vimto

Sounds about right.

Isn’t it outrageous than in the 21st century, an appendectomy can cost $28,000?

(Well, not really, considering the 19th century treatement was “you die.”)


24 posted on 06/23/2008 8:52:25 AM PDT by Our man in washington
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To: raybbr

wow, thanks I will digest that information.


25 posted on 06/23/2008 8:52:46 AM PDT by vimto (To do the right thing you don't have to be intelligent - you have to be brave (Sasz))
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To: Our man in washington

Er...point taken:^)


26 posted on 06/23/2008 8:53:27 AM PDT by vimto (To do the right thing you don't have to be intelligent - you have to be brave (Sasz))
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To: vimto

If he’s a British subject travelling overseas, the NHS ought to pick his the tab for emergency care. If I were him I’d get in touch with them.


27 posted on 06/23/2008 8:53:48 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Barack Obama--the first black Jimmy Carter.)
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To: raybbr

Thanks much appreciated!


28 posted on 06/23/2008 8:54:59 AM PDT by vimto (To do the right thing you don't have to be intelligent - you have to be brave (Sasz))
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To: vimto

I’ll do it for half that.


29 posted on 06/23/2008 8:56:46 AM PDT by keat (What I wouldn't give for a nice pair of Moccasocks.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

I think the NHS won’t cover him - mind you they would do it for free for an Islamic terrorist on bail over here!

Strange world hey?


30 posted on 06/23/2008 8:57:40 AM PDT by vimto (To do the right thing you don't have to be intelligent - you have to be brave (Sasz))
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To: keat

Thanks, next time I’ll contact you first!


31 posted on 06/23/2008 8:59:59 AM PDT by vimto (To do the right thing you don't have to be intelligent - you have to be brave (Sasz))
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To: vimto
If you do not have insurance, call the billing office and tell them you are self pay. Most hospitals will reduce the charge to the amount they charge an insurance company. Insurance companies negotiate for reduced rates with the hospitals and medical care providers. The "official" undiscounted bill is pure BS.

My daughter had an auto accident and we received a bill for $5000 from the hospital, mostly from the tests they ran. When I called the billing office and explained she didn't have insurance they adjusted the bill down to less than $900.

You may need to negotiate with the hospital, the anesthesiologist, the surgeon, etc separately, but they will negotiate.

32 posted on 06/23/2008 9:00:24 AM PDT by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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To: vimto

The comments regarding negotiating payment are correct. A 50% reduction is in order, plus you can simply tell them to get stuffed, come collect.

Also, if I recall correctly, I believe Brits abroad are basically insured -— they turn the bill over to the Brit health system and it acts as a psuedo-insurance company.

Next thing to check and see how you paid for the trip. When I use one card (used for this purpose — not otherwise a credit card fan) for travel -— any emergency medical while I am there is covered by an insurance program. This is a very common benefit on Gold/Platinum type cards.


33 posted on 06/23/2008 9:00:53 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Mossad!)
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To: raybbr

It a shame doctors do not have a price list to offer patients. Fair disclosures should be offered.


34 posted on 06/23/2008 9:02:30 AM PDT by Orange1998
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To: vimto

My Canadian mother-in-law, and all the Canadians I know are hyper about getting travel health insurance for their trips here. I kind of chuckle at them about it, but I guess it can kind of come in handy sometimes. I know it is too late now, but you might want to consider it for future trips.


35 posted on 06/23/2008 9:04:06 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: caver
The bill was over $9000 nad they didn’t do much of nothing.

Nothing except create, maintain and fund a 24/7/365 capability to diagnose and intervene in case you were having a heart attack, thereby limiting or preventing heart damage and perhaps saving your life.

Do you have any idea how much having that capability an ambulance ride away from your home at all hours of the day or night COSTS?

Who do you think should pay for it?

36 posted on 06/23/2008 9:07:47 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Cut the birth certificate crap! It's the communism, stupid!)
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To: MeanWestTexan

Thanks for the tips, we will investigate....


37 posted on 06/23/2008 9:08:55 AM PDT by vimto (To do the right thing you don't have to be intelligent - you have to be brave (Sasz))
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To: 6ppc

Thanks, we have paid some upfront but we look to reduce the rest of the bill.

It’s harder when you just don’t know the system...


38 posted on 06/23/2008 9:10:40 AM PDT by vimto (To do the right thing you don't have to be intelligent - you have to be brave (Sasz))
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To: vimto

Remember in American you pay for yourself and at least one illegal family getting free health care.


39 posted on 06/23/2008 9:13:45 AM PDT by bmwcyle (If God wanted us to be Socialist, Karl Marx would have been born in America.)
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To: LukeL

I had two emergency room visits last winter (thankfully all was ultimately OK) which ran about $4,000 EACH, $8,000 total.

The hospital and subsidiary providers were all very amenable to a range of payment options.

$28,000 sounds right for an emergency appendectomy.

If I ever need elective surgery I’m off to Thailand, India, or Malaysia, all of which provide superior medical care at low cost.


40 posted on 06/23/2008 9:15:13 AM PDT by angkor (Conservatism is not now and never has been a religious movement.)
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