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Justice Scalia Gets His Gun; SCOTUS Finds 2nd Amendment
Leibowtiz's Canticle ^ | June 26, 2008 | Leibowitz

Posted on 06/26/2008 7:24:53 AM PDT by Bob Leibowitz

In an eagerly anticipated and strongly worded decision, Justice Antonin Scalia this morning led the Supreme Court to discover and define the Second Amendment as a guarantee of an individual's right to own firearms.

In a stunning but narrow 5-4 rebuke to liberal dogma of the past 30 years, where penumbras carried more weight than words, SCOTUS has confirmed what is known as the standard view of the amendment, that it means what it says.

While the decision does not automatically expand Second Amendment protections and prohibitions to affect state laws, it will immediately change the terms by which those restrictions are debated. In the long run, it is likely that some future case will arise where the issue of "incorporation" will be decided by the Court under either the 14th Amendment or the Privilege Clause, thereby bringing the Second Amendment to a level with the First and Fourth.

The case, which reached the Court as Heller vs. The District, is a special tribute to the foresight and conviction of one man, Robert Levy. Mr. Levy, who has never owned a gun, structured and financed the case, selected the plaintiffs, recruited the lawyers and developed the strategies that led to today's decision. At leaset initially, he did so against the wishes of the pro-Scond Amendment establishment, much of which believed at the beginning of the case, before the elevation of Roberts and Alito to the Court, that the risks as too large.

As Heller gained traction, particularly after an unambiguous decision by the Appellate court overturning D.C.'s handgun ban based on a finding that it was unconstitutional, the arguments and briefs filed by the opposing camps became a treasure trove of Second Amendment scholarship that will be studied by constitutional scholars for a century.

Justice Scalia, widely regarded as the shootingest Justice, was obviously enthusiastic in his writing, defining for history the Constitution's protection of the individual's right to keep and bear arms.

RELATED LINKS: Heller Will Win in June. How Big? has a complete review of the case and more than a dozen links to its history.


TOPICS: Government; History; Politics
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; guns; heller; judiciary; scotus; secondamendment; shallnotbeinfringed
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1 posted on 06/26/2008 7:24:54 AM PDT by Bob Leibowitz
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To: Bob Leibowitz

OUTSTANDING!!!


2 posted on 06/26/2008 7:27:46 AM PDT by seanmerc
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To: Bob Leibowitz

Praise God! Now how about the rest of our trampled rights?


3 posted on 06/26/2008 7:28:09 AM PDT by Big_Harry ( Thank God I am an "Infidel"!)
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To: Bob Leibowitz

So all DC has to do is not issue licenses? I was reading another article that the ruling did not strike down license requirements, laws on felons and the mentally retarded...


4 posted on 06/26/2008 7:28:09 AM PDT by dubie
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To: Bob Leibowitz

Looks like we dodged a bullet! ;-)


5 posted on 06/26/2008 7:28:19 AM PDT by poindexter
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To: Bob Leibowitz

Oh happy day. On so many levels.


6 posted on 06/26/2008 7:28:39 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: Bob Leibowitz

Why in the world would you post a link to your own blog site containing nothing more than the text you posted on FR?

Is it extreme vanity, silliness, or cognitive impairment?


7 posted on 06/26/2008 7:29:13 AM PDT by Redbob ("WWJBD" ="What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: Bob Leibowitz
I was truely worried about this going the wrong way, after seeing some of the recent decisions.

Bravo, they got it right.

8 posted on 06/26/2008 7:30:01 AM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (Some days it is not worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: Bob Leibowitz

A freedom medal for Mr. Robert Levy and a hearty thank you on behalf of my relatives who gave their lives on April 19, 1775 so we could all enjoy that right.


9 posted on 06/26/2008 7:30:50 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (If it is going to take 10 years, shouldn't we get started? Drill here, drill now, pay less.)
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To: Bob Leibowitz
"the standard view of the amendment, that it means what it says"

What?!?! None of that 'living, breathing document' crap that is usually spit out by the libbies on the court!!! Color me shocked!!!

But happy! Woot!
10 posted on 06/26/2008 7:32:57 AM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --Soccer Mom and proud Rush Conservative with no dog in the presidential race now *sigh*)
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To: Bob Leibowitz
Thank you Mr. Levy

You're a true American patriot in my book.

11 posted on 06/26/2008 7:32:59 AM PDT by Joiseydude
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To: Bob Leibowitz

Someone needs to challenge the Sullivan Act and the other crap like Chicago’s ban.

Even the requirement to have a CCH to carry concealed is crap IMO.


12 posted on 06/26/2008 7:33:18 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Bob Leibowitz
Now we just need to use those instruments to save America before it's too late.
13 posted on 06/26/2008 7:35:52 AM PDT by JackRyanCIA (The Obama, Pelosi, Reid Triumvirate. Who said Americans are not stupid?)
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To: JackRyanCIA

The SC: freeing terrorists but at least leaving the 2nd Amendment intact so we can defend ourselves.


14 posted on 06/26/2008 7:36:41 AM PDT by relictele (Web addicts anonymous meets here 24/7)
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To: Big_Harry

I agree; thank God.

“liberal dogma of the past 30 years, where penumbras carried more weight than words”

Truer words never spoken.


15 posted on 06/26/2008 7:37:11 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Mossad!)
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To: Bob Leibowitz; hellinahandcart; holdonnow; Congressman Billybob; Joe Boucher; Carry_Okie; ...

Even though today’s ruling turned out the way we wanted, I confess to a great deal of unease over waiting to hear what my rights are from a black robed oligarchy.

Yesterday’s ruling on child rapists proves my point.


16 posted on 06/26/2008 7:37:11 AM PDT by sauropod (God created asphalt so yuppies can go four-wheeling.)
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To: Bob Leibowitz

I had serious doubts about the outcome. So glad to see I was wrong. A stronger majority would have been nice. But hey I’ll take this.


17 posted on 06/26/2008 7:37:13 AM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: Bob Leibowitz

A link to the 157 page “Slip” (preliminary text) Opinion is at:
http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/07-290.pdf
The first 67 pages are Scalia and are a masterful and complete analysis of the issue.


18 posted on 06/26/2008 7:37:50 AM PDT by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free...their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: Big_Harry
“Praise God! Now how about the rest of our trampled rights?”

They can't take everything all at once and risk revolution. They will be back later to confiscate the guns. For that you can be sure and for certain.

19 posted on 06/26/2008 7:38:55 AM PDT by JackRyanCIA (The Obama, Pelosi, Reid Triumvirate. Who said Americans are not stupid?)
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To: Redbob

The reason to link is that I will be updating the analysis as I go through the opinion.

From your comment, it appears you may not value that much.

OK by me.


20 posted on 06/26/2008 7:39:24 AM PDT by Bob Leibowitz (Response, Free Republic, news)
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To: Bob Leibowitz

Thanks for your quick and timely analysis, Bob.


21 posted on 06/26/2008 7:39:49 AM PDT by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free...their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: seanmerc
OUTSTANDING!!!

Yup...but a 5-4 decision just shows how FUBAR the 4 dissenting justice's are. We have more work to do to get the SCOTUS back on track.

22 posted on 06/26/2008 7:41:20 AM PDT by johnny7 ("Duck I says... ")
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To: Bob Leibowitz

YES!!!!!!!


23 posted on 06/26/2008 7:41:41 AM PDT by xcamel (Being on the wrong track means the unintended consequences express train doesnt kill you going by)
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To: 3AngelaD
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24 posted on 06/26/2008 7:42:51 AM PDT by FrPR
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To: Resolute Conservative

If the decision is carried to its logical conclusion,
it would appear that this strikes down restrictions
against purchasing and possessing (by non felons non
mentally ill), “assault weapon” bans, and “may issue”
or “non issue” CCW policies.

NRA needs to begin challenging all the various magazine
restrictions, AWBs, .50cal bans, and all the rest of the
crap laws enacted by the Feinstein/Don Perata/Corzine/Bloomberg/Schumer cabal.


25 posted on 06/26/2008 7:43:05 AM PDT by rahbert
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To: Bob Leibowitz
In dissent, Justice John Paul Stevens wrote that the majority "would have us believe that over 200 years ago, the Framers made a choice to limit the tools available to elected officials wishing to regulate civilian uses of weapons."

Is it me or does this prove how radically socialist and totalitarian the left wing members of SCOTUS are?

26 posted on 06/26/2008 7:43:42 AM PDT by JohnLongIsland
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To: Bob Leibowitz

In dissent, Justice John Paul Stevens wrote that the majority “would have us believe that over 200 years ago, the Framers made a choice to limit the tools available to elected officials wishing to regulate civilian uses of weapons.”

WTF...damn straight Justice Paul!


27 posted on 06/26/2008 7:43:51 AM PDT by mr_hammer (Checking the breeze and barking at things that go bump in the night.)
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To: Bob Leibowitz
The troubling part is the 5-4 decision.

Four justices believe the 2nd amendment doesn't mean what it says.

28 posted on 06/26/2008 7:45:04 AM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: sauropod

Sort of like terrorist detainees.
After these rulings you have to think twice about bringing these vermin in for trial. Just kill their sorry butts. Then you don’t need worry about some p.o.s. judge letting them go.


29 posted on 06/26/2008 7:46:23 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: poindexter
You're right about that. Just look at Steven's dissent to find out how badly liberals want to "control your rights" for you:

Justice John Paul Stevens wrote that the majority "would have us believe that over 200 years ago, the Framers made a choice to limit the tools available to elected officials wishing to regulate civilian uses of weapons."

You're damn right they limited the "tools" available to you to "regulate" the unwashed masses. Liberals have NOTHING but contempt for anyone who wishes to limit government. Funny enough, that's exactly what the bill of rights is supposed to do, and yet a justice of the supreme court, someone who's supposed to be an expert on this matter, can't even grasp that simple concept. 5-4 in our favor, we weren't just lucky, this was divine intervention of a near disaster.
30 posted on 06/26/2008 7:46:41 AM PDT by messierhunter
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To: JohnLongIsland

You saw that too, did you? Scary, very scary! See my post mere seconds after yours.


31 posted on 06/26/2008 7:47:00 AM PDT by mr_hammer (Checking the breeze and barking at things that go bump in the night.)
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To: Bob Leibowitz

Hooray! That’s a big relief, and a decision that is long overdue. I’m more than a little concerned that there are four judges seated on the highest court of the land that do not agree.

So, when will the ACLU take their first case supporting an individual’s right to keep and bear arms? (I’m not holding my breath!)


32 posted on 06/26/2008 7:47:44 AM PDT by Rockhound
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; wku man; SLB; ..
My internet connection is blinking on and off at random on today of all days, but I'll do my best to keep the pings going on this historic ruling.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

33 posted on 06/26/2008 7:47:58 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: mr_hammer
"the Framers made a choice to limit the tools available to elected officials wishing to regulate civilian uses of weapons.”

The man hits the nail on the head -- and STILL comes down on the wrong side!

34 posted on 06/26/2008 7:48:53 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Et si omnes ego non)
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To: Bob Leibowitz

Thank you for your reporting, sir. I asked earlier whether this was a small step or a giant leap and I fear it’s only a small step - an important one, but nevertheless the progress is fragile. Watch for aggressive regulation and a liberal interpretation of what is considered an unusual weapon (aligned with the court’s interpretation of unusual punishment in the child rape case) to keep a lid on things ... awaiting a reversal of the slim supporting majority in this case. The 4+1 liberal side of the court has already shown that precedent can be cast aside on a whim.


35 posted on 06/26/2008 7:49:09 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (If it is going to take 10 years, shouldn't we get started? Drill here, drill now, pay less.)
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To: messierhunter

“5-4 in our favor, we weren’t just lucky, this was divine intervention of a near disaster. “

Damn straight! We live to fight on!

Freedom is not free!


36 posted on 06/26/2008 7:49:30 AM PDT by mr_hammer (Checking the breeze and barking at things that go bump in the night.)
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To: poindexter
Looks like we dodged a bullet! ;-)

Looks like they did too.

37 posted on 06/26/2008 7:49:37 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: Redbob

Masochists in search of sadists never have to stand in line.


38 posted on 06/26/2008 7:50:05 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Bob Leibowitz

I hope Doctor Scalia’s prescriptive writing is powerful beyond my morning’s imagination, for while a happy morning to all, including me — I have given my dire cautions on the live thread.


39 posted on 06/26/2008 7:50:20 AM PDT by bvw
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To: mr_hammer

I have to send a letter to my congresswoman(NY 4th), one of the real anti-gun proponents in the house.


40 posted on 06/26/2008 7:50:41 AM PDT by JohnLongIsland
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To: JohnLongIsland

Scary, isn’t it? Stevens should be impeached for his utter disregard of the basic purpose and meaning of the bill of rights, which was ALWAYS about limiting the “tools” government has to “regulate” the citizenry.


41 posted on 06/26/2008 7:50:44 AM PDT by messierhunter
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

“Bravo, they got it right. “

Yes, but scary by how close. But Scalia has now firmly established the gravitas and extended the precedent for the 21st century.

And the libs/marxists can go suck eggs.


42 posted on 06/26/2008 7:52:51 AM PDT by romanesq
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To: Bob Leibowitz; sauropod
I imagine that for Justice Scalia, writing this opinion had to be the high-point of his career, something that even makes it worth tolerating Steven Breyer.
43 posted on 06/26/2008 7:53:05 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (We have people in power with desire for evil.)
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To: JohnLongIsland

“Is it me or does this prove how radically socialist and totalitarian the left wing members of SCOTUS are? “

No, I had the exact reaction as you. And I don’t even own or plan to own a gun.
But I absolutely defend the right to do so.


44 posted on 06/26/2008 7:54:56 AM PDT by romanesq
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

No, all the decisions have been following a consistent theme, the government has to follow the rules.

It’s just that some rules we like more than others.


45 posted on 06/26/2008 7:56:41 AM PDT by Philly Nomad
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To: Bob Leibowitz
Who does Kennedy think he is - King Solomon?

Anyway, if he is splitting these votes to make both sides happy, we need to thank God he threw this one to our way.

46 posted on 06/26/2008 7:57:36 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: JohnLongIsland

Well, yes Justice Stevens, that is exactly what our framers intended.


47 posted on 06/26/2008 7:57:42 AM PDT by waxer1 (What exactly is meant by "we are going to take our country back")
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To: Bob Leibowitz
Woo Hoo! Praise the Lord, and pass the ammunition. I'm going target shooting in my back yard to celebrate. LOL
48 posted on 06/26/2008 7:58:08 AM PDT by NRA2BFree (If you need help, ask God. If you don*t, thank God!)
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To: Bob Leibowitz

Reading some of Stevens’ dissent pisses me off mainly the part about the framers 200 years ago wanted to keep tools to restrict civilian gun ownership. Amazing some people cannot read black and white.


49 posted on 06/26/2008 7:58:20 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Bob Leibowitz
Thanks for the post. This is very good news indeed!

However - do not be surprised if Obama wins the presidency - that he will stack the Court. He will say there is a need to have 11 justices for some reason or another and then pack it wilt liberal-leftists until he has a majority.

50 posted on 06/26/2008 7:58:46 AM PDT by Sunsong
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