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Blogger admits Hawaii birth certificate forgery, subverting Obama claims (Uh-oh)
Israel Insider ^ | 3 July 2008 | Reuven Koret

Posted on 07/03/2008 4:35:19 PM PDT by SE Mom

Jay McKinnon, a self-described Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist, has implicated himself in the production of fraudulent Hawaii birth certificate images similar to the one endorsed as genuine by the Barack Obama campaign, and appearing on the same blog entry where the supposedly authentic document appears.

The evidence of forgery and manipulation of images of official documents, triggered by Israel Insider's revelation of the collection of Hawaii birth certificate images on the Photobucket site and the detective work of independent investigative journalists and imaging professionals in the three weeks since the publication of the images, implicate the Daily Kos, an extreme left blog site, and the Obama campaign, in misleading the public with official-looking but manipulated document images of doubtful provenance.

The perceived unreliability of the image has provoked petitions and widespread demands for Obama to submit for objective inspection the paper versions of the "birth certificate" he claimed in his book Dreams from My Father was in his possession, as well as the paper version of the Certificate of Live Birth for which the image on the Daily Kos and the Obama "Fight the Smears" website was supposedly generated.

Without a valid birth certificate, Obama cannot prove he fulfills the "natural born citizen" requirement of the Constitution, throwing into doubt his eligibility to run for President.

McKinnon, who says he is 25-30 years old, operates a website called OpenDNA.com and uses the OpenDNA screen name on various web sites and blogs, including his comments and diary on The Daily Kos. In recent years he has divided his time between Long Beach, California and Vancouver, British Columbia. He is a Democratic political activist, frequent contributor to the left wing Daily Kos blog, and a fervent Barack Obama supporter.

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To: Freedom of Speech Wins
Not disbelieving you here but you say that you can show us testimony of family members in Kenya who say Obama was born there. Where can we see that?

I was mentioned up thread, reference was the Israeli site, IIRC.

Gimme a bit to dig.

2,381 posted on 07/08/2008 9:48:32 AM PDT by null and void (every Muslim, the minute he can differentiate, carries hate of Americans, Jews & Christians - OBL)
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To: Dog Gone

What if he was adopted?


2,382 posted on 07/08/2008 9:56:30 AM PDT by TheThinker (Capitalism is the natural result of a democratic government.)
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To: GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer); aruanan
In post #2,189, aruanan references a WaPo article here:

John McCain's Birthplace

2,383 posted on 07/08/2008 9:59:46 AM PDT by null and void (every Muslim, the minute he can differentiate, carries hate of Americans, Jews & Christians - OBL)
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To: null and void
We have had a lot of people on this thread ask sarcastically Why would she go to Kenya to give birth?

Barack Obama Sr. was a Muslim and it is a Muslim tradition to give birth in the parents' home which would have been in Kenya.

http://www.nagpuronline.com/people/rit_mslm.html

Rituals And Cerimonies

Muslim: The rites and ceremonies observed by Muslims chiefly consist of those as relating to pregnancy, birth, naming, sacrifice, initiation, betrothal, marriage, and death,

Pregnancy: In the seventh or ninth month of pregnancy a fertility rite may be performed as among the Hindus. The woman is dressed in new clothes, and her lap is filled with fruit and vegetables by her friends. In some localities a ceremony to propitiate the spirits of ancestors is performed.

Child-Birth: A woman goes to her parents home after the last pregnancy rite and stays there till her confinement is over. The rites performed by the midwife at birth resemble those of the Hindus. When the child is born the azam or summons to prayer is uttered aloud in its right ear, and the, takbir or Muslim creed in its left. The child is named on the sixth or seventh day. The proper name for the male child is often formed by combining the prefix abd or servant, ghulam or slave, or suffix baks or 'given by' to the numerous titles of God. e.g. Abd-ul-Aziz, Rahim, Razak, Ghulam-Hussain; Khuda-baks Hyder-baks, etc.

2,384 posted on 07/08/2008 10:04:43 AM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins; PhatHead
Not disbelieving you here but you say that you can show us testimony of family members in Kenya who say Obama was born there. Where can we see that?

Here

2,385 posted on 07/08/2008 10:21:19 AM PDT by null and void (every Muslim, the minute he can differentiate, carries hate of Americans, Jews & Christians - OBL)
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins; PhatHead
And

Unstamped certificate suggests Obama may not be "natural born" US citizen

Says in part:

"...Even though Geraghy notes that Obama "initially refused to provide his birth certificate," he has suggested that it is "rather unlikely" that Obama was born in Kenya, since it would require that the candidate and his family do a lot of lying. In fact, there were reports of Kenyati relatives claiming he was born there, and there is the mysterious disappearance of his grandmother, who may indeed know something about this subject..."

Emphasis added...

2,386 posted on 07/08/2008 10:27:24 AM PDT by null and void (every Muslim, the minute he can differentiate, carries hate of Americans, Jews & Christians - OBL)
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To: RubyR
Your peoplefinders site and ancestry.com site state that Maya is 36 years old. That would mean they are using a birth date of 71 I think in the calculation. If she was born in 1970 she would be 37 years old.
2,387 posted on 07/08/2008 10:35:54 AM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: RubyR

You asked a very good question, which indicated an inconsistency with opendna’s posting at KOS:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/7/5/15947/95667/125/547039

The recent israelinsider posting also comments on this inconsistency:

“The only trouble with that statement is that McKinnon had already created the blank Hawaii birth certificate template for John McCain and the “Ahphorgerie” joke on June 12 before Fight the Smears had even published the birth certificate. Kos had published it that morning, about four hours earlier. Patricia DeCosta’s birth certificate surfaced in the blogosphere only a week later, on June 19. So how did he compare the documents? And why would he say it was the first he’d heard of the birth certificate controversy when he had already posted his own patently fake certificates.”

http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12959.htm

This reflects directly on McKinnon’s (aka opendna) honesty about his involvement and personal credibility.

I believe he has not been factual or fully disclosed his actual involvement with either the KOS or Fight The Smears versions of the birth certificate documents. He knows this situation has not only blown up and is now out of his control, but there is also a real possibility he has validated several laws, both state and federal.

SE Mom and all FReepers, kept up the good investigative work, as this is diffidently not a “Case Closed” situation or the time to “just move on”, nor will it be until Mr. Obama can demonstrate to all citizens the actual status of his citizenship.


2,388 posted on 07/08/2008 11:05:18 AM PDT by thefaxman (A conservative surrounded by liberals, but I've got them right were I want them!)
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To: thefaxman

Validated? Damn spell check...


2,389 posted on 07/08/2008 11:15:28 AM PDT by null and void (every Muslim, the minute he can differentiate, carries hate of Americans, Jews & Christians - OBL)
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To: WOSG
The location of the wedding was Honolulu Hawaii, where they both were students during that semester. Nothing happened in Kenya. She was never there.

Do you have any evidence of any nature that is the case?

If you can't come up with some off the cuff, the way you locate it is go to the local library and find copies of the December 1960 and January and February 1961 copies of the local Hawaii newspapers; locate the Vital Statistics pages; and look for a marriage in any form of Barrack H. Obama and Stanley Ann Dunham.

Meanwhile, I am looking in Mombasa and Nairobi and bet I find a record before you do! Best of Luck.

2,390 posted on 07/08/2008 11:45:46 AM PDT by David (...)
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To: thefaxman

Thanks for a great post. I’ll read “violated” for “validated,” unless you object. Welcome to FR.


2,391 posted on 07/08/2008 11:47:06 AM PDT by PerConPat (A politician is an animal which can sit on a fence and yet keep both ears to the ground.-- Mencken)
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To: David
According to the Chicago Tribune, divorce of Obama Sr. and Stanley Ann occurred in 1964. Where and when—presumably Honolulu but I have not yet found that in the record; nor I have seen the actual date in 1964.

This April 9, 2008 Time Magazine story is specific as to the marriage date:

"On Feb. 2, 1961, several months after they met, Obama's parents got married in Maui, according to divorce records. It was a Thursday. At that point, Ann was three months pregnant with Barack Obama II. Friends did not learn of the wedding until afterward. "Nobody was invited," says Abercrombie. The motivations behind the marriage remain a mystery, even to Obama. "I never probed my mother about the details. Did they decide to get married because she was already pregnant? Or did he propose to her in the traditional, formal way?" Obama wonders. 'I suppose, had she not passed away, I would have asked more.'"

Note that the wedding date is taken from the divorce record; I've read elsewhere (but don't have the specific link) that the marriage certificate can't be found.

About the divorce:

"Ann filed for divorce in Honolulu in January 1964, citing "grievous mental suffering"—the reason given in most divorces at the time. Obama Sr. signed for the papers in Cambridge, Mass., and did not contest the divorce."


2,392 posted on 07/08/2008 12:10:42 PM PDT by browardchad
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To: null and void

Validated should be violated.

Nothing gets past you, does it! Lol

Perhaps you can help direct me to find out more about the proper protocol and SOP’s of Free Republic posting, like pinging, etc...


2,393 posted on 07/08/2008 12:23:45 PM PDT by thefaxman (A conservative surrounded by liberals, but I've got them right were I want them!)
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To: null and void; WOSG

And here's Barry campaigning for the leader of the Luo tribe, (second) cousin Raila Odinga, out there in Kenya.

Charming.

2,394 posted on 07/08/2008 12:37:22 PM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: thefaxman

Protocol? No. But I do have a handy guide that covers about 95% of the HTML you’ll ever need to use here.


2,395 posted on 07/08/2008 12:38:11 PM PDT by null and void (every Muslim, the minute he can differentiate, carries hate of Americans, Jews & Christians - OBL)
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To: soupcon

Here is a link you might like. Your post reminded me of it and I thought I would share.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2033604/posts


2,396 posted on 07/08/2008 12:40:43 PM PDT by spotbust1 (Procrastinators of the world unite . . . . .tomorrow!!!)
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To: David

Do you have any evidence of any nature that is NOT the case?


2,397 posted on 07/08/2008 12:47:20 PM PDT by WOSG (http://no-bama.blogspot.com/ - NObama, stop the Hype and Chains candidate)
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To: browardchad

Thanks for the cites of these 2 relevent facts:

1) “On Feb. 2, 1961, several months after they met, Obama’s parents got married in Maui, according to divorce records. It was a Thursday. At that point, Ann was three months pregnant with Barack Obama II. Friends did not learn of the wedding until afterward. “Nobody was invited,” says Abercrombie.

2) About the divorce: “Ann filed for divorce in Honolulu in January 1964, citing “grievous mental suffering”—the reason given in most divorces at the time. Obama Sr. signed for the papers in Cambridge, Mass., and did not contest the divorce.”


2,398 posted on 07/08/2008 12:49:46 PM PDT by WOSG (http://no-bama.blogspot.com/ - NObama, stop the Hype and Chains candidate)
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To: thefaxman
“The only trouble with that statement is that McKinnon had already created the blank Hawaii birth certificate template for John McCain and the “Ahphorgerie” joke on June 12 before Fight the Smears had even published the birth certificate. Kos had published it that morning, about four hours earlier. Patricia DeCosta’s birth certificate surfaced in the blogosphere only a week later, on June 19. So how did he compare the documents? And why would he say it was the first he’d heard of the birth certificate controversy when he had already posted his own patently fake certificates.”

He knows this situation has not only blown up and is now out of his control, but there is also a real possibility he has validated several laws, both state and federal.

"Houston, I think we have a problem...".

That observation nails the fundamental problem with McKinnon's "story". It needs to repeated throughout the blogosphere. This thing has spun out entirely out of his control and now he's looking for cover.

I think this is the underlying reason that the all important certification number is entirely blacked out. The CoLB never had one.

2,399 posted on 07/08/2008 12:55:55 PM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: browardchad
This April 9, 2008 Time Magazine story is specific as to the marriage date:

"On Feb. 2, 1961, several months after they met, Obama's parents got married in Maui, according to divorce records. It was a Thursday. At that point, Ann was three months pregnant with Barack Obama II. Friends did not learn of the wedding until afterward. "Nobody was invited," says Abercrombie. The motivations behind the marriage remain a mystery, even to Obama. "I never probed my mother about the details. Did they decide to get married because she was already pregnant? Or did he propose to her in the traditional, formal way?" Obama wonders. 'I suppose, had she not passed away, I would have asked more.'"

Note that the wedding date is taken from the divorce record; I've read elsewhere (but don't have the specific link) that the marriage certificate can't be found.

About the divorce:

"Ann filed for divorce in Honolulu in January 1964, citing "grievous mental suffering"—the reason given in most divorces at the time. Obama Sr. signed for the papers in Cambridge, Mass., and did not contest the divorce."

What a great group of people. I know everyone else has a lot to do--I'm in a high-pressure business; if I wasn't having a good time, I would do something else. But I appreciate the help a lot.

I too have read elsewhere that the wedding certificate cannot be found; I haven't read the married in Maui point. I wonder where newspaper Vital Statistics for Maui are to be found.

If you found it in a Vital Statistics column, you would be tempted to believe it even if you didn't find the certificate. I don't know what the law in Hawaii is; in the states in which I am admitted, filing the certificate is mandatory on the person who performs the marriage.

I'm locked into my view that they got married in Kenya--it's a mistake to approach the facts that way because if you keep looking for the real facts the entire story ultimately comes out.

Here, counsel in the divorce proceeding pleaded Maui which is probably what his client told him; failure to find the filing is probably pretty good evidence that it didn't happen there unless you find Vital Statistics showing that it did.

We are still looking in Kenya.

2,400 posted on 07/08/2008 12:58:29 PM PDT by David (...)
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