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Blogger admits Hawaii birth certificate forgery, subverting Obama claims (Uh-oh)
Israel Insider ^ | 3 July 2008 | Reuven Koret

Posted on 07/03/2008 4:35:19 PM PDT by SE Mom

Jay McKinnon, a self-described Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist, has implicated himself in the production of fraudulent Hawaii birth certificate images similar to the one endorsed as genuine by the Barack Obama campaign, and appearing on the same blog entry where the supposedly authentic document appears.

The evidence of forgery and manipulation of images of official documents, triggered by Israel Insider's revelation of the collection of Hawaii birth certificate images on the Photobucket site and the detective work of independent investigative journalists and imaging professionals in the three weeks since the publication of the images, implicate the Daily Kos, an extreme left blog site, and the Obama campaign, in misleading the public with official-looking but manipulated document images of doubtful provenance.

The perceived unreliability of the image has provoked petitions and widespread demands for Obama to submit for objective inspection the paper versions of the "birth certificate" he claimed in his book Dreams from My Father was in his possession, as well as the paper version of the Certificate of Live Birth for which the image on the Daily Kos and the Obama "Fight the Smears" website was supposedly generated.

Without a valid birth certificate, Obama cannot prove he fulfills the "natural born citizen" requirement of the Constitution, throwing into doubt his eligibility to run for President.

McKinnon, who says he is 25-30 years old, operates a website called OpenDNA.com and uses the OpenDNA screen name on various web sites and blogs, including his comments and diary on The Daily Kos. In recent years he has divided his time between Long Beach, California and Vancouver, British Columbia. He is a Democratic political activist, frequent contributor to the left wing Daily Kos blog, and a fervent Barack Obama supporter.

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1 posted on 07/03/2008 4:35:20 PM PDT by SE Mom
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To: pissant; expatguy; David; Miss Didi; AliVeritas; Grampa Dave; Beckwith; holdonnow

YIKES!


2 posted on 07/03/2008 4:37:09 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom

Fake, but accurate.


3 posted on 07/03/2008 4:38:36 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: SE Mom

4 posted on 07/03/2008 4:39:24 PM PDT by null and void (every Muslim, the minute he can differentiate, carries hate of Americans, Jews & Christians - OBL)
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To: SE Mom
Now is the time to stop that evil b@stard.

If he is guilty of FRAUD, then I want to know why he is pushing falsified documents as genuine.

Obama is a racist, thief and liar.


5 posted on 07/03/2008 4:40:31 PM PDT by Prole (Pray for the families of Chris and Channon.)
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To: SE Mom

Oh my.


6 posted on 07/03/2008 4:41:12 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: SE Mom

So false, it could have been real.

It’s not the facts that are important, it’s the spirit in which the forgery was done that is important.

They wanted it to be true, so it is true. We need to understand this and not be so negative!


7 posted on 07/03/2008 4:41:57 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: SE Mom

We always knew he was un-American anyway.


8 posted on 07/03/2008 4:42:35 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: SE Mom

If he he isn’t a legal citizen, I say we elect Obama. The man has stones you’d have to cart in a wheel barrow.


9 posted on 07/03/2008 4:42:42 PM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Yep- and then there’s this:

http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/07/03/update-daily-kos-an-obama-activist-and-forged-birth-certificates/#more-432


10 posted on 07/03/2008 4:42:54 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom

Big old Bookmark.


11 posted on 07/03/2008 4:43:20 PM PDT by Earthdweller
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To: SE Mom

If it’s proven that that certificate really is a fake - and if Obama’s real birth certificate shows that he was not born a U.S. citizen - do you know what the fallout could be? Hillary Clinton would probably get the Democratic nomination after all.


12 posted on 07/03/2008 4:43:54 PM PDT by Irish Rose (Will work for chocolate.)
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To: SE Mom

Poor Jay

Hope he lets us know how the view is from under the bus


13 posted on 07/03/2008 4:44:06 PM PDT by mouse1
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To: SE Mom

So what? The ends justifies the means (said in best liberal whine)


14 posted on 07/03/2008 4:44:15 PM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: SE Mom

HOLY SNOT!!!!


15 posted on 07/03/2008 4:44:37 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (NYT - The Official Razor of "John's Long Mustache".)
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To: Jim Robinson; All

Oh my goodness...from the last line of the article:

In the summer of August 2006, blogging on the Daily Kos, opendna aka Jay McKinnon, showing off his DHS-derived knowledge, discusses discusses under the heading of “The Perfect ID Card” the ease of forging US documents, birth certificates in particular:

“Most Americans have worse ID than illegal immigrants. So, you have a letter from a notary that says you told him you’re a citizen. Is that supposed to mean something? I’m certain he would sign one saying I told him I’m a carrot. Birth certificates, are you serious? Take a look at yours. Chances are I could counterfeit it at Kinkos.”


16 posted on 07/03/2008 4:44:52 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom

Me thinks by now, the original can not be found...


17 posted on 07/03/2008 4:45:05 PM PDT by Coffee200am
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To: P-Marlowe; SE Mom

I fear this is some kind of set-up.

That, too, must be factored in and planned for.


18 posted on 07/03/2008 4:45:23 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: SE Mom

BTTT


19 posted on 07/03/2008 4:46:26 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: SE Mom
a self-described Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist, has implicated himself in the production of fraudulent Hawaii birth certificate images

Doesn't exactly inspire confidence in DHS training, since his efforts did not withstand scrutiny for very long.

Doesn't exactly inspire confidence in DHS itself, since they've apparently trained a con artist.

Good thing he was badly trained then, lol.

20 posted on 07/03/2008 4:46:58 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: SE Mom

Needless to say, that’s not the Jay McKinnon that Obama knew...


21 posted on 07/03/2008 4:48:38 PM PDT by JRios1968 ("If you go over a cliff with all flags flying, you are still going over a cliff"--Ronald Reagan)
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To: SE Mom
This is why I love Free Republic. They are soooooo persistent.
22 posted on 07/03/2008 4:49:10 PM PDT by easternsky
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To: Irish Rose

I’ve thought about this a great deal- because if this is all that it appears and this BC is fraudulent- then yes- most likely Hillary will get the nod in Denver.

It’s all pretty sobering. What will liberals, socialists and regular old Democrats do? What will it do to the country?


23 posted on 07/03/2008 4:49:13 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom

Birth Certificates are not issued for Messiahs. Move Along. :)


24 posted on 07/03/2008 4:49:15 PM PDT by Diver Dave
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To: SE Mom
Jay McKinnon, a self-described Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist, has implicated himself in the production of fraudulent Hawaii birth certificate images similar to the one endorsed as genuine by the Barack Obama campaign, and appearing on the same blog entry where the supposedly authentic document appears.

Way to really help out your candidate. Nice shooting.

25 posted on 07/03/2008 4:49:21 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (A citizen using a weapon to shoot a criminal is the ultimate act of independence from government.)
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To: RegulatorCountry
Looks like a night watchman or something.
26 posted on 07/03/2008 4:50:07 PM PDT by xDGx
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To: Centurion2000
Way to really help out your candidate. Nice shooting.

You are making the assumption his candidate isn't Hillary!™

27 posted on 07/03/2008 4:50:26 PM PDT by null and void (every Muslim, the minute he can differentiate, carries hate of Americans, Jews & Christians - OBL)
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To: All

I love you guys, but you’re all crazy.


28 posted on 07/03/2008 4:51:10 PM PDT by soupcon
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To: SE Mom

If that’s true..can Hussein still be VP?


29 posted on 07/03/2008 4:51:13 PM PDT by Coffee200am
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To: xzins

We’ve all considered that. You may be right. But before you conclude that- be sure to read this entire article AND the one I posted in # 10.


30 posted on 07/03/2008 4:51:39 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom

Actually, I hope I’m wrong.

But, it never hurts to worst case things.


31 posted on 07/03/2008 4:53:29 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: SE Mom

Also McCain’s VEEP pick depends on who he actually has to run against.

I think there’s cause for whomever - AG, SOS - to get to the bottom of this.


32 posted on 07/03/2008 4:54:12 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: Coffee200am

IF it’s true, no, he can’t be. First of all- regardless of why the bc is forged- it IS. That is called FRAUD.

I hardly think the DNC would openly go along with that:)

(key word- openly)


33 posted on 07/03/2008 4:54:18 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom

Does anyone have a copy of the ORIGINAL high-rez (2427 x 2369) BC image from KOS/Smears, the one that does NOT have the embossed seal?

I now have the high-rez version of the POST-seal image, but need its original.

MM


34 posted on 07/03/2008 4:54:52 PM PDT by MississippiMan
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To: socialismisinsidious

placemark


35 posted on 07/03/2008 4:55:45 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ('GOP' : Get Our Petroleum)
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To: Jim Robinson

Let me be the first to say, and I base this BTW from what I remember of the 60’s and 70’s,this country will change leadership 2 maybe 3 times within the next 4 years. Health problems, political or marital scandals,race riots, energy or biological crisis, terrorist attacks or even assassination plots, this country is headed for some very volatile times.Four years from now JM, BHO, or HRC will not even be in the headlines, just my 2 cents worth.


36 posted on 07/03/2008 4:55:47 PM PDT by eastforker (Get-R-Done and then Bring-Em- Home)
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To: SE Mom

37 posted on 07/03/2008 4:55:49 PM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: SE Mom; All

Changed documents you can believe in.


38 posted on 07/03/2008 4:57:30 PM PDT by rdl6989 ( I'm a carbon based human being, a Carbonated-American)
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To: SE Mom
Well, FINALLY.

the truth is out = and all over the news -

What? It's not heading the news?

A presidential candidate tries to pass off a fraudulent BC and no one cares?

Oh, right. I forgot. It's a DEMOCRAT candidate...
no crime, no foul.

39 posted on 07/03/2008 4:57:51 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (No trees were killed in sending this message but a large number of electrons were terrible agitated)
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To: xzins

Bingo! That’s why collectively freepers are so smart:) We debate, confront and second-guess each other. ALWAYS the best way to find the facts.

I’ve done a lot of reading on this in the last 10 days or so- and I’m nearly convinced this bc is a fraudulent document.

While smart-aleck remarks about why we’re crazy for pursuing this are fun- I want techies who are good at this to tell us why this isn’t a forgery!


40 posted on 07/03/2008 4:58:41 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom

Wouldn’t there be some other way, if a journalists were so inclined, to find out information? Was Barry O seen by a pediatrician, are there records (hospital, flight,housing,school,license, whatever) that his mom was in Hawaii at the time of his birth? You would think that there would be some paper trail on Momma Barry re: if she were in the state of Hawaii on Aug. 4th 19XX


41 posted on 07/03/2008 4:58:43 PM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: soupcon

All crazy?
And who are you?
Maybe i could also love you if i knew


42 posted on 07/03/2008 4:58:49 PM PDT by Ulysse
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To: SE Mom
Without a valid birth certificate, Obama cannot prove he fulfills the "natural born citizen" requirement of the Constitution, throwing into doubt his eligibility to run for President.

It is embarrassing to watch FR do this.

It doesn't matter where Obama was born. If his mother was a US citizen, then he is.

Even if he was born in Cuba or North Korea.

Carry on with the insanity. I sure can't stop it.

But it's stupid, it makes FR look stupid, and if that's fine with everyone, keep it up.

43 posted on 07/03/2008 4:59:37 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: xzins
I knew that was a fake.

Obama obviously had to submit some kind of proof of citizenship or legal alien status to be admitted to the Illinois State Bar. The question is whether it was a birth certificate?

If Obama knew this was a fake, he should have produced the real one to quell these rumors. Frankly I think this might just be a Dan Rather moment. At this point he is going to have to prove he is eligible and he's going to have to do it before the convention. At this point, I have my doubts. Everything about this man is phony.

44 posted on 07/03/2008 4:59:57 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Soliton; BossLady; Lancey Howard; nikos1121; TomasUSMC

Pinging mis amigos


45 posted on 07/03/2008 5:00:16 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: SE Mom

The real amazing thing of this story is not that it’s a fake ..... it’s that a liberal actually ‘fessed up to committing a crime. That’s extraordinary!


46 posted on 07/03/2008 5:00:29 PM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: maine-iac7

Maybe they are regarding this as a “whitey” video. Why can’t the original BC be viewed?


47 posted on 07/03/2008 5:00:31 PM PDT by Coffee200am
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To: MississippiMan

I never saw any that did not have at least a hint of a seal.


48 posted on 07/03/2008 5:00:38 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: txflake; SE Mom; Polarik; fanfan

guffaw, guffaw..


49 posted on 07/03/2008 5:01:04 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

This is really an amazing turn of events.

Not the forgery, mind you, but the admission of it.


50 posted on 07/03/2008 5:01:58 PM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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