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Blogger admits Hawaii birth certificate forgery, subverting Obama claims (Uh-oh)
Israel Insider ^ | 3 July 2008 | Reuven Koret

Posted on 07/03/2008 4:35:19 PM PDT by SE Mom

Jay McKinnon, a self-described Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist, has implicated himself in the production of fraudulent Hawaii birth certificate images similar to the one endorsed as genuine by the Barack Obama campaign, and appearing on the same blog entry where the supposedly authentic document appears.

The evidence of forgery and manipulation of images of official documents, triggered by Israel Insider's revelation of the collection of Hawaii birth certificate images on the Photobucket site and the detective work of independent investigative journalists and imaging professionals in the three weeks since the publication of the images, implicate the Daily Kos, an extreme left blog site, and the Obama campaign, in misleading the public with official-looking but manipulated document images of doubtful provenance.

The perceived unreliability of the image has provoked petitions and widespread demands for Obama to submit for objective inspection the paper versions of the "birth certificate" he claimed in his book Dreams from My Father was in his possession, as well as the paper version of the Certificate of Live Birth for which the image on the Daily Kos and the Obama "Fight the Smears" website was supposedly generated.

Without a valid birth certificate, Obama cannot prove he fulfills the "natural born citizen" requirement of the Constitution, throwing into doubt his eligibility to run for President.

McKinnon, who says he is 25-30 years old, operates a website called OpenDNA.com and uses the OpenDNA screen name on various web sites and blogs, including his comments and diary on The Daily Kos. In recent years he has divided his time between Long Beach, California and Vancouver, British Columbia. He is a Democratic political activist, frequent contributor to the left wing Daily Kos blog, and a fervent Barack Obama supporter.

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To: Diver Dave

Ooopssseee!

Did I outtalk you?

I think we ran into one another.

Sorry.


4,051 posted on 07/31/2008 1:15:37 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: taraytarah
Am I not connecting the dots right, or is this the reason Barry was flown back to Grandma and Grandpa?

my guess is that his typical white mother never learned to change his diapers.

4,052 posted on 07/31/2008 1:18:52 PM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: David

David, your theory and explanation is the most plausible I have read thus far.


4,053 posted on 07/31/2008 2:52:03 PM PDT by Gemsbok (shark- waiting, circling, tasting, fresh blood on the obamination trail)
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To: GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

Hey, no problem. I had to leave for a PT treatment.

BTW, based on our conversation a week or so ago, need a gin refill? :)


4,054 posted on 07/31/2008 3:05:31 PM PDT by Diver Dave
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To: Grampa Dave

Bump Dave.


4,055 posted on 07/31/2008 3:18:03 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer); Spunky; Fred Nerks; bvw; Calpernia; null and void; Miss Didi; ...
I wanted to ping those who are still following this saga over to a new one. I've been compiling and analyzing the FEC Obama donation database reported through June 30. This story is one among many irregularities.

Why is Barack Obama Taking--& Lying About--Illegal Campaign Contributions from Gaza's HAMAS Muslims?

4,056 posted on 07/31/2008 6:26:58 PM PDT by Amityschild
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To: LucyT

Adding the link to the main BC thread:

http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/


4,057 posted on 07/31/2008 6:28:12 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks; David

Thank you, Fred Nerks. Pinging David.


4,058 posted on 07/31/2008 6:30:50 PM PDT by LucyT (What happens in Denver won't stay in Denver... August 25 - 28, 2008)
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To: Amityschild

http://www.israpundit.com/2008/?m=200804

“Obama’s Gaza Campaign” from Al Jazeera

by Bill Levinson

Watch this YouTube video to see Palestinians in Gaza (foreign nationals, many of whom doubtlessly voted to elect Hamas terrorists to office) manning phone banks to get out the vote for Barack Hussein Obama...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21YF7ggCG6g

SEND MONEY - PAYPAL?


4,059 posted on 07/31/2008 6:54:34 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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THE JIHAD CANDIDATE
Red State Patriot ^ | 2008 | Rick Carroll

Posted on Friday, August 01, 2008 4:09:26 AM by patriot08

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2054389/posts

“How long did it take Islam and their oil money to find a candidate for President of the United States? ...


4,060 posted on 07/31/2008 7:01:23 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks
Thanks! I think I saw this on Pamela's site (Atlas).

I was looking at the lists of donors and saw this real high dollar amount with a Palestinian name; Edwan, Monir. The city is Rafah and the state code is GA. Of course, lumped in with all the Georgia donations and assumed to be Georgia. No Rafah in Georgia though. It's a refugee camp in the Gaza strip.

4,061 posted on 07/31/2008 7:05:57 PM PDT by Amityschild
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To: Amityschild

thanks, I’ll post the link here for the record:

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/07/obamas-gazan-co.html


4,062 posted on 07/31/2008 7:34:06 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks; David; null and void

I apologise in advance if this post seems to ramble but there are so many points to bring up! People have seemed to accept that Obama was born in Hawaii that they delve no farther, especially with the “found” birth announcement not thinking that it could have been generated with the filing of the birth with Vital Statisics. Granny, no stranger to deception with her own marriage, would think nothing of deceiving others over the birth of her grandson. (Checking various websites her date of marriage is either May 4th or 5th of 1940) Following this through it was revealed that Madelyn’s parents were strict Methodists and they did not approve of Stanley. The couple wed during the weekend of the junior - senior dance and didn’t tell her parents until she graduated from high school! (Madelyn lived at home keeping the marriage secret)
A woman who would deceive her family is quite adept at deception.
I believe Madelyn went to the office of Vital Stats and registered the birth after receiving either a telegram or phone call about the arrival of the baby.

Further research has discovered this article which appeared in “The Honolulu Advertiser” on Feb.10/07 and gives excerpts AND addresses from Obama Sr.

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2007/Feb/10/ln/FP702100346.html

Please note that the date given for when he left Hawaaii upon graduation is given as 1962 NOT 1963. Stanley Ann and Obama Jr were in WA then! Also a poster at Texas Darling’s blog mentions that the addresses given for Sr are no where near the address listed on the “found birth anouncement”. When granny registered the birth it would have generated the listing for the “birth announcement”.
Further, Obama describes his grandfather as having “an unstable and often violent temper” as well as “having crude ham-fisted manners” and “a desire to obliterate the past”. As the African relatives mention Ann’s father was furious about her pregnancy and threatened to have Sr’s visa revoked and have him expelled from the country which would fit with the violent temper. The real irony is that Obama himself with his ‘memoir’ has tried to obliterate the past. The phrase which comes to mind is Emerson’s “A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.” and this is even more ironic considering that Stanley Armour Dunham’s grandfather’s name was Ralph Waldo Emerson Dunham!

Now the one question which I will direct at null and void is: Are the passport qualification papers which you have posted for the present day or for the 1961 period? Qualifications (identifying paperwork) is much more stringent now than it was in 1961! With the renewal option for U.S.passports all one has to do is make sure they renew their passport before the old one expires, never submitting more information.


4,063 posted on 07/31/2008 7:46:56 PM PDT by Chief Engineer
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To: Amityschild

Thanks for the ping. Could this be the election fraud the PUMA gal was hinting about?


4,064 posted on 07/31/2008 8:29:05 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Chief Engineer

They are the current, post 9/11, in the age of identity theft, rules.

It is difficult to image that the old rules would be more challenging.


4,065 posted on 07/31/2008 8:33:25 PM PDT by null and void (Barack Obama - International Man of Mystery...)
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To: David; LucyT; Fred Nerks; potlatch; devolve; ntnychik; MeekOneGOP; Grampa Dave; Jeff Head; ...

Click me for David's exposé of my birthplace

4,066 posted on 07/31/2008 9:19:30 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: null and void

When my wife (a Canadian citizen) applied for a passport in 1992 she sent in a Dept of Natl Defence birth certificate which is a small card similar in size to a driver’s license with the chicken scratch signaure of a Major who issued it. In 2002 before coming down to the U.S. she again applied for a Canadian passport(they can’t be renewed and are only good for 5 years) she again submitted the D.N.D. birth certificate but had to submit her certificate of registration of birth abroad because Passport Canada would not accept the D.N.D. birth certificate. Qualifications for passports in the 60’s was even more lenient and minor children were named on their mother’s passport, not having one of their own.


4,067 posted on 07/31/2008 9:54:02 PM PDT by Chief Engineer
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To: FARS; All

Stanley Ann Dunham Social Security Application.

For the record.

http://webofdeception.com/obamamother’sssapplication.html


4,068 posted on 07/31/2008 10:05:15 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: David
Just making a timeline comparison - you wrote:

And the phony explanation about why she was on Mercer Island so soon after the birth she hadn't figured out how to change diapers in August of 1961--Susan Blake's testimony that she was on her way to Boston to see Obama Sr. who was at Harvard when the record is clear that he wasn't at Harvard in Boston until a year later.

ANTIOBAMA NET.

NOTE: A high-school acquaintance of Stanley Ann Dunham told me that Stanley Ann and baby Barry came through town alone in August 1961 on their way to see Barack Sr. at Harvard in Boston, and that Barack Sr. was not present at his son’s birth. This explanation surprised me because supposedly Barack Sr. did not go to Boston until 1963, two years later. If the account is true, however, it would indicate that time lines provided by Obama about his family history are inaccurate. On this note, I was told by a reporter who investigated Stanley Ann Dunham that she enrolled briefly at the Univ. of Washington in Spring, 1962, and lived in Seattle alone with baby Barack. Perhaps they never lived together as a family.

Barack Hussein Obama Snr lived at the YMCA -IIRC. There's no reason to assume they ever lived at the same address in Hawaii.

4,069 posted on 07/31/2008 10:40:45 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Miss Didi

I discovered this on my own. It is just the tip of many instances of election fraud. I’ll continue working with Pamela Geller at Atlas Shrugs so look there for continuing stories. Gee...maybe Hillary wanted us to wait?


4,070 posted on 08/01/2008 3:04:01 AM PDT by Amityschild
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To: Amityschild
Brava! Excellent work—I will keep an eye out for your posts. I have always thought that Mrs. Clinton would have some bomb drop after the first week of August...gosh, she has so much to choose from. ;)
4,071 posted on 08/01/2008 3:47:37 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: FARS

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2040486/posts?page=4056#4056


4,072 posted on 08/01/2008 5:09:07 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Fred Nerks; Amityschild

Does this mean that Maureen Dowd’s article was true?


4,073 posted on 08/01/2008 5:15:10 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Chief Engineer
>>>especially with the “found” birth announcement

Actually, I've had problems with the birth announcement that I've posted here.

The fonts aren't the same.

4,074 posted on 08/01/2008 5:18:14 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Calpernia

Damn...missed that one. Link?


4,075 posted on 08/01/2008 5:21:18 AM PDT by Amityschild (Bringing Obama DOWN one day at a time - VRWC Member #777777777)
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To: Chief Engineer; null and void

>>>Now the one question which I will direct at null and void is: Are the passport qualification papers which you have posted for the present day or for the 1961 period? Qualifications (identifying paperwork) is much more stringent now than it was in 1961! With the renewal option for U.S.passports all one has to do is make sure they renew their passport before the old one expires, never submitting more information.<<<

I want to add this tidbit about passports too:

I saw this on Israeli Insider:

http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12993.htm

In the comments by a poster named muzhik:

Obama may never have had to produce his birth certificate to get a passport. As a baby, he would have been included in his mother’s passport as a “family passport”. Whoever took her application may not have required her baby’s BC — it’s the ‘60s, she’s white, the daddy’s black, and it’s not like the kid will ever run for president. Sloppy by today’s standards, but not necessarily by the standards of the time.

After that, it’s just a matter of keeping the passport renewed. When he turned 14, Obama would have gotten his own passport, using the “family” passport as proof of citizenship. If he kept his passport renewed, he never would have needed to produce a certified birth certificate.


4,076 posted on 08/01/2008 5:21:31 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Amityschild

I don’t know what to think of it. It seems to have only been posted here and the claim is Maureen Dowd ‘didn’t write it’; but is says it is by her.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2044224/posts?page=20#20
OBAMA’S TROUBLING INTERNET FUND RAISING

By MAUREEN DOWD
Published: June 29, 2008


4,077 posted on 08/01/2008 5:26:42 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
Obama’s phony certificate of whatever was registered in just a few days…in many days less time then that of McCain’s. It must have been falsely registered (in time) at some point. (There was no DHL, etc., then.)

The actual timing of the birth; and the subsequent Hawaii filing is subject to doubt.

Obama historically gave a different time of birth (1:00 AM) than reflected by the certificate (7:42). He has stopped doing that. If you use the August 4 date, they filed with Hawaii department of health on August 8; Vital Statistics published in the local papers on August 13.

Ann and the baby were on Mercer Island before she had started changing diapers on her own--we assume a stop on the way from Kenya to Hawaii.

At 1:00 AM in Kenya on August 4, it was still around two in the afternoon in Seattle on August 3; and around 10:00 AM on August 3 in Hawaii.

The airplane connections published by BOA for that period through Glaskow to Vancouver might well have gotten her to Honolulu five days after the birth on my time line. However, it is also possible that the actual birth occurred earlier than August 4--say the first or second.

That is the reason that anyone who gets around to searching Kenya birth records with Salt Lake City or elsewhere should be looking back into July.

4,078 posted on 08/01/2008 6:41:55 AM PDT by David (...)
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To: Fred Nerks; LucyT
I am not registered to post on TexasDarlin's site and am not able to put my law office email address any further out in the public domain than it is.

If someone wants to post my #4022 there, they should feel free to do so.

I view the Indonesia citizenship adoption argument she has had up for several days as suspect. If Obama was born in Honolulu, the Supreme Court is going to hold him eligible for the Presidency--if he was not, the Court is going to hold he is not eligible. Simple as that.

There is a decent record on which to reject Obama's Honolulu birth position. We do not yet have enough facts to take effective action based on the proposition that he was born in Kenya although there is enough record out there to raise the inference that is where he was in fact born.

The Kenya birth records are on fiche in Salt Lake City unless the campaign has reached the file and scrubbed the record--has anyone been able to get to them?

4,079 posted on 08/01/2008 6:55:35 AM PDT by David (...)
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To: Chief Engineer

It says something when today’s rules need to be more stringent than the rules in place at the height of the Cold War.


4,080 posted on 08/01/2008 6:58:16 AM PDT by null and void (Barack Obama - International Man of Mystery...)
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To: Fred Nerks
On this note, I was told by a reporter who investigated Stanley Ann Dunham that she enrolled briefly at the Univ. of Washington in Spring, 1962, and lived in Seattle alone with baby Barack.

Said to be knocked up in Hawaii Dec 1960, married in Maui in Feb 1961, in class at U Wash in Mar 1961, Barack born at ? in Aug 1961, newborn at Mercer Island WA in Aug 1961.

If I look at that and don't squint very hard I see four know location data points, two in Hawaii, well before Barack was born, and two in Washington bracketing when Barack was born.

If I knew nothing else, I'd interpolate the birth as being in Washington, especially given that Mercer Island was within "a few weeks" of birth...

4,081 posted on 08/01/2008 7:10:58 AM PDT by null and void (Barack Obama - International Man of Mystery...)
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To: Amityschild
Gee...maybe Hillary wanted us to wait?

Hope so. We bust this open too soon, and the dems have time to think it through, rather than being stampeded over the Hillary cliff...

4,082 posted on 08/01/2008 7:13:47 AM PDT by null and void (Barack Obama - International Man of Mystery...)
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To: Calpernia

We had a thread dedicated to that alleged MoDo column. It did have a link to another web site. We were not the only ones carrying it.

Down the memory hole.

FWIW, Live Search (I’ve avoided google, ever since google ‘disappeared’ all the images of BHO’s birth certificate) shows 80,000 hits on “OBAMA’S TROUBLING INTERNET FUND RAISING” Even google gives 72,000 hits on this.


4,083 posted on 08/01/2008 7:22:43 AM PDT by null and void (Barack Obama - International Man of Mystery...)
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To: Fred Nerks

Hmmmmm. Did she get knocked up on her 18th birthday?

Barack was born almost exactly 9 months later...


4,084 posted on 08/01/2008 7:29:54 AM PDT by null and void (Barack Obama - International Man of Mystery...)
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To: null and void

Was it determined as to whether it was a spoof report? I find it strange now that some of the information Maureen Dowd was ‘alleged to be alleging’ is now turning up in those links that Fred Nerks ad Amitysville found.


4,085 posted on 08/01/2008 8:00:08 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Calpernia

oops, Amityschild not Amitysville. Sorry!


4,086 posted on 08/01/2008 8:01:24 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: null and void

>>> Did she get knocked up on her 18th birthday?

That would be ‘convenient’ to avoid statutory rape charges.

Stanley Ann’s father threatened to have Obama Sr. kicked out of Harvard. He would have more of a case to do that if Stanley Ann was a minor when knocked up and ‘unmarried’.

Unless, she used false ID or forged her parents consent. Hence, the Anna Toot theory. But that would still give him leverage to have Obama Sr. thrown out of Harvard.

I wonder why he decided not to go through with it.


4,087 posted on 08/01/2008 8:06:41 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Irish Rose

yet the Dinosaur Media refuses to report this story.

if this were a republican (we keep saying this these days) the leftists of the media would be SCREAMING DEMANDS for a document check.


4,088 posted on 08/01/2008 8:12:49 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Calpernia

Yeah. Too bad actually being old enough to get married without parental permission kicks the legs out from under the Toot theory.

The simplest thing again becomes getting married with the regular Stanley Ann Dunham ID. No need to complicate matters with an Anna Toot drinkin’ ID.

Still possible that an abandoned and po’d Stanley Ann used an Anna Toot ID at the hospital to deny Barak, Sr. any connection to Barak, Jr. She would have had to surrender her Dunham ID when she updated from single to married to Obama.

Possible but not as likely.


4,089 posted on 08/01/2008 8:22:58 AM PDT by null and void (Barack Obama - International Man of Mystery...)
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To: null and void

I think if he got married, she did it in Kenya.

But, I would really, really enjoy seeing a birth certificate show up with Barry Toot.

:))


4,090 posted on 08/01/2008 8:26:51 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: David; Fred Nerks; Jeff Head; pissant; null and void; potlatch; devolve; Rushmore Rocks; ...

Thank you, David.

Pinging everyone to #4,079 and #4,078.


4,091 posted on 08/01/2008 8:32:03 AM PDT by LucyT (What happens in Denver won't stay in Denver... August 25 - 28, 2008)
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To: Jim Robinson
This is one issue that can legally torpedo Obama. One that could be solved with a minimal fee to request an official birth certificate from the county recorder's office where he was born. His inability to do this simple act to prove his native born eligibility implies he is not eligible and is trying all manner of distractions to avoid the issue.
4,092 posted on 08/01/2008 8:51:42 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: LucyT

Thanks, Lucy.

Curiouser and curiouser.


4,093 posted on 08/01/2008 8:55:48 AM PDT by Rushmore Rocks
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To: LucyT

I bet Hitlery knows...


4,094 posted on 08/01/2008 9:09:59 AM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: All

Woo Hoo!

I got Jerome Corsi’s book today, Obama Nation!

That also means I have expatguy’s exclusive!

I’m off to read it.


4,095 posted on 08/01/2008 9:34:52 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Calpernia
I wonder if anyone can find this for me...I am off on tangents. Good heads here, you know. I'm looking on Obama's website for contribution status that might back up or elaborate on what the FEC website has.

Anybody?

I am most interested in information about bundling.

The thing is...the FEC website shows that the total contributions to Obama are $336 mil. My file (that reconciles with the website - I can match figures up state by state) only totals $218 mil. Big diff there. I wonder what that could be?

I'm also wondering about the bundling because I have 1,241 individual contributors that gave over the allowable $4600 (2300 for primary & 2300 for general). Do they report the bundled totals this way? It doesn't read that way when you look at the rules at the FEC website.

The Gaza connection could be nothing IF the individuals are American citizens. But, really...living in the Rafah REFUGEE camp?

Any help would be really appreciated!

4,096 posted on 08/01/2008 9:35:10 AM PDT by Amityschild (Bringing Obama DOWN one day at a time - VRWC Member #777777777)
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To: Amityschild

Oops! I did that dreaded double post thing :-)


4,098 posted on 08/01/2008 9:35:50 AM PDT by Amityschild (Bringing Obama DOWN one day at a time - VRWC Member #777777777)
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To: Amityschild

Did you take into account PAC contributions?

The FEC site breaks monies out by individuals vs PACs and such. If you are just adding up the individuals, that would omit other monies.


4,099 posted on 08/01/2008 9:37:53 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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I'm tellin'!
4,100 posted on 08/01/2008 9:49:18 AM PDT by null and void (Barack Obama - International Man of Mystery...)
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