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Blogger admits Hawaii birth certificate forgery, subverting Obama claims (Uh-oh)
Israel Insider ^ | 3 July 2008 | Reuven Koret

Posted on 07/03/2008 4:35:19 PM PDT by SE Mom

Jay McKinnon, a self-described Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist, has implicated himself in the production of fraudulent Hawaii birth certificate images similar to the one endorsed as genuine by the Barack Obama campaign, and appearing on the same blog entry where the supposedly authentic document appears.

The evidence of forgery and manipulation of images of official documents, triggered by Israel Insider's revelation of the collection of Hawaii birth certificate images on the Photobucket site and the detective work of independent investigative journalists and imaging professionals in the three weeks since the publication of the images, implicate the Daily Kos, an extreme left blog site, and the Obama campaign, in misleading the public with official-looking but manipulated document images of doubtful provenance.

The perceived unreliability of the image has provoked petitions and widespread demands for Obama to submit for objective inspection the paper versions of the "birth certificate" he claimed in his book Dreams from My Father was in his possession, as well as the paper version of the Certificate of Live Birth for which the image on the Daily Kos and the Obama "Fight the Smears" website was supposedly generated.

Without a valid birth certificate, Obama cannot prove he fulfills the "natural born citizen" requirement of the Constitution, throwing into doubt his eligibility to run for President.

McKinnon, who says he is 25-30 years old, operates a website called OpenDNA.com and uses the OpenDNA screen name on various web sites and blogs, including his comments and diary on The Daily Kos. In recent years he has divided his time between Long Beach, California and Vancouver, British Columbia. He is a Democratic political activist, frequent contributor to the left wing Daily Kos blog, and a fervent Barack Obama supporter.

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To: LucyT; Calpernia; SunkenCiv

Finally the mystery about the affluent owner about Airbus A380 VIP 'Flying Palace' is solved. The guy who had managed to keep his identity in secrecy till now has come out in open. Saudi Arabian royal family member Prince Alwaleed bin Talal bin Abdulaziz Al-Saud is the Aladdin who will be soaring on his flying carpet of this age. Although the Airbus revealed the customer at the Dubai air show recently, it is still uncertain about the completion centre that will outfit the aircraft’s cabin. However the delivery year is certain that is 2010. Allow me to update you about the owner of this ‘flight of fancy’. Al-Saud is the founder of diversified private investment firm Kingdom Holding Company which concentrates on activities in the banking, hotel, and real estate sectors. He already owns a private Boeing 747-400 aircraft.

And a diamond studded Mercedes Benz. (Harvard sold out cheap for $ 20 million petro-dollars.)

5,481 posted on 09/02/2008 6:20:27 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Lockheed sold the Airbus A380 to the Saudi’s?

Aren’t they under investigation for the hellfire missiles they just sold the Saudi’s too?

And doesn’t this Airbus have that new Air Data System? Was the Saudi’s suppose to get that?


5,482 posted on 09/02/2008 7:00:35 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Calpernia
http://www.luxurylaunches.com/transport/airbus_a380_flying_palace_belongs_to_prince_alsaud_from_saudi_arabia.php

it's from November 2007. forgot to include the link. apparently he doesn't take delivery until 2010. money can buy anything, including Harvard and obama...this is the same ‘prince’ who offered 10 million as blood money after 9/11. Rejected by Guiliani

5,483 posted on 09/02/2008 7:13:18 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: bvw; Calpernia; Kevmo; null and void; pissant; george76; Polarik; Beckwith; David; PhilDragoo; ...
Thank you, bvw and Fred Nerks.

Pinging The List.

5,484 posted on 09/02/2008 7:37:15 PM PDT by LucyT ( Gov. Palin runs a state, Obama just runs his mouth.)
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To: Fred Nerks; Calpernia; bvw; SE Mom; David

Is the Saudi prince one of a cabal of those fronting Obama? Might explain the question of who paid for his party and election signs etc at the Convention in 2004.
Even more interesting is the mention that his mother Ann received a degree in math which has never been publicised! That would explain her position setting up micro banks.
see here:

http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080830/NEWS05/808300339/0/SPECIALOBAMA08

Also another article in the series mentions the Dunhams moving from “a large house on Kamehameha... to the apartment at 1617 S. Beretania St, located on the 10th floor of the 12 story building.”
That pops a hole in David’s theory that the 6085 Kalanianaole Hwy address was the Dunham’s as Obama hmself mentions only two homes for his grandparents besides the apartment and we know from a previous article that they had lived in “a modest wooden house on University Ave near Kamanele Park”. Maybe the house on University Ave was the first home they lived in which they sold before Ann came back from Washington, buying the larger home on Kamehameha Ave so Ann and Obama could live with them? When Ann married Lolo they sold the house and moved to the apartment which would fit in with the dates. (a friend of Madelyn mentioned that Madelyn has lived in the apartment for 40 years, making Obama 7 when they moved into the apartment)


5,485 posted on 09/02/2008 7:45:02 PM PDT by Chief Engineer
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To: Chief Engineer; expatguy

Expatguy noticed something similar about the homes described in Indonesia as to not making sense.


5,486 posted on 09/02/2008 7:55:59 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Chief Engineer

There has been no evidence whatsoever that obama snr and Ann ever lived together anywhere...letters written by acqaintances of obama snr during the period 1960-1961 with accompaning photographs do not mention or show Stanley Ann at all. It’s almost as if she did not EXIST in the life of obama snr in Hawaii.

6085 Kalanianaole Hwy is a fabrication just as is his name and father’s race, IMO.


5,487 posted on 09/02/2008 7:59:10 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: AmericanArchConservative
one parent who IS a natural born US citizen is all that is required to meet Constitutional muster...

Um. No.

You can't possibly be following this story and say that honestly.

5,488 posted on 09/02/2008 8:13:15 PM PDT by null and void (Sarah Palin might be more conservative than even John McCain ~ Megyn Kelly, Fox News 9/2/08)
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To: Fred Nerks

I believe that Madelyn had a hand in that particular address. She was in the perfect position in the escrow department to know of a ‘safe address’ to use for registering the birth which in turn would generate the birth announcement in both “The Honolulu Advertiser” and “The Honolulu Star Bulletin”. Checking Google maps for that address places it in the middle of nowhere far from any of the other addresses listed.


5,489 posted on 09/02/2008 8:14:14 PM PDT by Chief Engineer
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To: Calpernia

http://laotze.blogspot.com/2007/01/tracking-down-obama-in-indonesia-barack.html

During this short period of time, Barack was believed to have lived in a house on Dempo Street near Amir Hamzah Park and the city center of Jakarta. However, currently the occupants of the house and the residents in this area have never heard of either Barack or Barry.

Tracking down the past of US senator in Indonesia is quite difficult, The only quite strong information detikcom was able to obtain was from a Onny Padmo, Barry’s classmate in class 4 of Besuki primary school, Menteng, Jakarta near the city center around 1971.

Onny admitted to attending Barry’s birthday party at his house at that time. Barry’s house was supposedly on Dempo Street near Amir Hamzah Park. But, Onny didn’t quite seem to remember the exact address. As you know, that was over 35 years ago.

Detikcom investigated the area, on Monday (3/7/2006). However, several residents who have lived in this area for quite a long time had never heard of the Barack name or Barry. They had also never heard of the Lolo Soetoro name, Ann Dunham, or Maya Kassandra Soetoro.

Lolo Soetoro was the husband of Ann and the stepfather of Barry. Ann was a US citizen and the mother of Barry. Whereas Maya was the stepbrother of Barry, the child of Ann and Lolo.

In fact, Barry together with his mother and his stepfather lived in Indonesia for quite a long time. Apparently Barry went to Primary School here for only one year in Primary 4, but the information from Maya Soetoro is that Barry had lived in Indonesia between the years of 1968-1973.

However, the exact location of Barry’s house for 5 years remains unclear.

The only thing that is certain, according to Onny, is that “Barry” lived on Dempo Street.

“I had previously attended Barry’s birthday party in the house, not far from Amir Hamzah Park”, said Onny, Barry’s school friend during 1971. It wasn’t far from Amir Hamzah Park, said Onny, Barry’s school friend from 1971. At the time, Dempo Street was still be worked on.
It was just off Amir Hamzah Park although not right in front. The road closer to the mosque at that time was quite famous.

One of the residents who had lived a long time in the Amir Hamzah Park area, Ari (aged 55), when being questioned by detikcom claimed to have never heard of a Barack, Obama or Barry. He had also never heard of a person named Lolo Soetoro.

“As I remember in the 1960’s many Dutch lived near this area.” If there was a Negroid child, I would have known, said Ari. Apart from Dutch though, in this area there also lived many decendents of the Dutch Ambonese.

Haji Mamiati, who had lived in the area since the 1950’s also admitted to not knowing of an Ann Dunham, Lolo Soetoro or Barry.

He claimed that in the Amir Hamzah Park area, during the 1960’s there were many foreigners.
Mamiati claimed thought that he had indeed seen a black negro child who had curly hair that live in No. 2 Dempo Street sometime around the 1970’s.

However, he said the negroid child was claimed to have been from Papua.

“Indeed there was a negroid child, but they claimed that the child was from Irian.” said Mamiati.

Could it be, that the negroid child mentioned by Mamiati was in fact “Barry”?

It is diffucult to say, the house on No. 2 Dempo Street existed only during the time of the Dutch. Now the place where the house supposedly stood houses a dentist and there are many other new houses in the area - Dempo has changed over the years.


5,490 posted on 09/02/2008 8:17:34 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Chief Engineer

“I believe that Madelyn had a hand in that particular address...”

I think all we can say is that who-ever concocted that fake CoLB had a hand in that particular address.


5,491 posted on 09/02/2008 8:22:05 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks

One problem with the above info, again is the dates. Obama was at Punahou in 1971 when his father came to visit.

http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080330/NEWS01/106040002/-1/specialobama08

Also re Sr’s friends, isn’t it interesting that the only one who remembers Ann is none other than Rep. Neil Abercrombie, the same Rep. Abercrombie who mentions that Obama is “coachable”.

Mention of Ann here:

http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080829/NEWS05/808290416/0/BACKISSUES


5,492 posted on 09/02/2008 8:33:53 PM PDT by Chief Engineer
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To: SE Mom

Tried the link, got the message “Blog not found”.

What was there?


5,493 posted on 09/02/2008 8:36:04 PM PDT by Rocky
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To: Fred Nerks

I believe that section was even expanded upon a little more in Obama Nation. That excerpt plus the financial status one would be at for th neighborhoods described.


5,494 posted on 09/02/2008 8:37:43 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Fred Nerks

Perhaps Maya’s husband, Konrad Ng, “an assistant professor at UH - Manoa’s Academy for Creative Media” had a hand in the fake C.O.L.B.?

http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080826/NEWS05/808260348/-1/specialobama08


5,495 posted on 09/02/2008 8:42:23 PM PDT by Chief Engineer
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To: Fred Nerks; Calpernia
Just searched, Fred....here's the results from Map Quest.

We didn't find anything for "6085 Kalanianaole Hwy, Honolulu, Hawaii"

Besides, I thought his grandparents lived in Makiki or the Tantalus area. Punahou is in Makiki, Tantalus is nearby. In Honolulu, there is the Lunalilo Freeway, Nimitz Hwy, Beretania and King Streets, Kapiolani and Kalakaua Avenues, Diamond Head Rd and Waianae Ave. There's the Pali and Likelike Hwys going over to Kailua and Kaneohe. These are the main arteries in Honolulu.

I think Kalanianaole Hwy is on the leeward side....the north shore side.
5,496 posted on 09/02/2008 8:42:33 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress! It's the sensible solution to restore Command to the People.)
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To: Fred Nerks

Perhaps Maya’s husband, Konrad Ng, “an assistant professor at UH - Manoa’s Academy for Creative Media” had a hand in the fake C.O.L.B.?

http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080826/NEWS05/808260348/-1/specialobama08


5,497 posted on 09/02/2008 8:42:38 PM PDT by Chief Engineer
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To: Fred Nerks; Chief Engineer
TOOT! It's funny how 'grandmother Sarah' - who isn't really his grandmother - also referred to Mrs Dunham as TOOT...isn't it?

Makes me wonder...did obama snr know her well enough to allow himself to address her by her nickname, and call her that when he went back to Kenya?

LINK. By the time Barry returned to Hawai'i, Toot, his grandmother, had become the stable financial source in the family, well known in the local lending community. In the library of The Honolulu Advertiser, no clippings mention Stan Dunham, but Madelyn Dunham crops up frequently in the business pages. A few months before Barry arrived from Indonesia, his grandmother had been promoted to vice president at the Bank of Hawaii...


5,498 posted on 09/02/2008 8:46:13 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: BIGLOOK

There is a 6085 Kalanianaole Hwy found on Google maps. Looking on Google maps it is located 7 miles to the right of the area where the University and the apartment are. Information regarding that particular address was posted pages ago on this thread showing it is a large home(4 bedrooms) with garage, and guest cabin and is worth over $685,000 (if I remember correctly)


5,499 posted on 09/02/2008 8:49:51 PM PDT by Chief Engineer
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To: Chief Engineer

I want to be number 5500! LOL


5,500 posted on 09/02/2008 8:51:42 PM PDT by Chief Engineer
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