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Blogger admits Hawaii birth certificate forgery, subverting Obama claims (Uh-oh)
Israel Insider ^ | 3 July 2008 | Reuven Koret

Posted on 07/03/2008 4:35:19 PM PDT by SE Mom

Jay McKinnon, a self-described Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist, has implicated himself in the production of fraudulent Hawaii birth certificate images similar to the one endorsed as genuine by the Barack Obama campaign, and appearing on the same blog entry where the supposedly authentic document appears.

The evidence of forgery and manipulation of images of official documents, triggered by Israel Insider's revelation of the collection of Hawaii birth certificate images on the Photobucket site and the detective work of independent investigative journalists and imaging professionals in the three weeks since the publication of the images, implicate the Daily Kos, an extreme left blog site, and the Obama campaign, in misleading the public with official-looking but manipulated document images of doubtful provenance.

The perceived unreliability of the image has provoked petitions and widespread demands for Obama to submit for objective inspection the paper versions of the "birth certificate" he claimed in his book Dreams from My Father was in his possession, as well as the paper version of the Certificate of Live Birth for which the image on the Daily Kos and the Obama "Fight the Smears" website was supposedly generated.

Without a valid birth certificate, Obama cannot prove he fulfills the "natural born citizen" requirement of the Constitution, throwing into doubt his eligibility to run for President.

McKinnon, who says he is 25-30 years old, operates a website called OpenDNA.com and uses the OpenDNA screen name on various web sites and blogs, including his comments and diary on The Daily Kos. In recent years he has divided his time between Long Beach, California and Vancouver, British Columbia. He is a Democratic political activist, frequent contributor to the left wing Daily Kos blog, and a fervent Barack Obama supporter.

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To: Fred Nerks
...it is apparent that Obama's mother was not in school during the entire year 1961, 1962, and part of 1963.

Not at the U. of Hawaii, true. But she spent some of that time at the U. of Washington, according to the records obtained by Atlas Shrugs.

7,251 posted on 03/05/2009 10:17:15 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: BP2

Make sure a trusted person goes there because O will have it wiped clean. They better get there fast.


7,252 posted on 03/05/2009 10:28:15 AM PST by Frantzie (Boycott GE - they own NBC, MSNBC, CNBC & Universal. Boycott Disney - they own ABC)
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To: Fred Nerks; David; LucyT; All
Like at the Hotel Theresa maybe meeting her heroes, Castro, Kruschev [sic], and Malcolm X.

If you are implying that Malcolm X could have sired Barack Jr. at the Hotel Theresa in September 1960, that wouldn't be consistent with O's supposed DOB of Aug. 4, 1961. O would have had to be conceived somewhat later in order to have been born on the date he claims to have been.

7,253 posted on 03/05/2009 10:32:43 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: usmcobra

Yes. Give him credit for some ability to foresee problems and plan for them.


7,254 posted on 03/05/2009 10:34:48 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 43 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: little jeremiah
In fact, if anyone doesn’t care about that set of facts, or thinks that 0bama is truthful - then that person is either terminally stupid, or on the dark side.

Why couldn't they be both?

7,255 posted on 03/05/2009 10:36:18 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 43 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: David

But they got married in Feb 1961, so for her to go get married in Kenya, she would have to have remained in Kenya from Feb 1961 through August, when Obama was born.


7,256 posted on 03/05/2009 10:37:14 AM PST by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson VIVA LA REVOLUTION!)
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To: little jeremiah

What’s “abtract”? Like an example of what it would have looked like if it were real?


7,257 posted on 03/05/2009 10:38:37 AM PST by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson VIVA LA REVOLUTION!)
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To: Spunky

It seemed like several of her courses were “correspondance” courses.


7,258 posted on 03/05/2009 10:41:06 AM PST by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson VIVA LA REVOLUTION!)
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To: Frantzie

>>> Make sure a trusted person goes there because O will have it wiped clean. They better get there fast.

The info is archived in a little-known format.

It will require hand-searching as it is probably NOT indexed and definitely not searchable online. That’s why I’m confident it has not been scrubbed yet.

I’ve upset many applecarts in Mediation and otherwise with archived documents I’ve pulled from my briefcase that the other side had NO idea even existed. I dug and found those gems MYSELF by talking to friendly historians, archivists, genealogists or did my own computer forensics.

When I hear the other side say, “so, where did you find this again?!,” I know I have them by the b*lls and they’re willing to either negotiate or capitulate.


7,259 posted on 03/05/2009 10:46:07 AM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: justiceseeker93
wouldn't be consistent with O's supposed DOB of Aug. 4, 1961

Several people observed that throughout his primary school years, he always looked older than his classmates. Wonder if his date of birth is the Big Secret.

7,260 posted on 03/05/2009 10:53:53 AM PST by LucyT
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To: autumnraine

Check out #7,260.


7,261 posted on 03/05/2009 10:55:04 AM PST by LucyT
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To: BP2

Thank you for your efforts. :-)

I am not near there. Let us know if you do not find (a trusted) someone and maybe I will hop on a plane.


7,262 posted on 03/05/2009 10:57:33 AM PST by Frantzie (Boycott GE - they own NBC, MSNBC, CNBC & Universal. Boycott Disney - they own ABC)
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To: little jeremiah; Chief Engineer

“”If Ann went to Kenya from Hawaii, she would have had to get various vaccinations.””

You are assuming two things:

A. That ‘Renegade Annie’ saw an M.D. and informed him she was PG and soon to be sashaying off to Kenya.
B. That today’s African travel recommendations by the CDC were applicabele in 1960.

Assuming that they were, here’s todays recommendations by the CDC:
MMR
DPT
Polio
Hepatitis A
Hepatitis B
Typhoid
Yellow Fever
Malarials

Here’s the reality of 1960:

Ann would have already had the childhood diseases or been vaccinated for the 40’s-50’s variations of MMR & DPT if they were available.
And the others:
Polio- 1962; HepA-1996; HepB-1965; and Typhoid-2001.
Yellow Fever did not reach Kenya until 1992.
Malaria, they used DEET spray, anti-Malarials like Lariam (1963) were used in late 60’s. And, btw, they do prescribe anti-malarrials to PG women.

If she was relying on Obama Senior for advice, somehow his background does not inspire confidence that he was the ‘cautious’ type that would have dissuaded his bonnie bride from the risks of travel to Kenya. After all, the guy had apparently never heard of a condom (1955, possibly true) which unfortunately explains why we’re in this predictment in 2009. And two years later, senior did persuade yet another young American white woman, Ruth Nidesand, to ditch her Harvard education and American life to reside in Africa and produce two more Obama offspring.

It is plausible, especially if she was in adamant disagreement with her parents and was given money to reside elsewhere. It also explains Kezia’s comment (#1 wife) on how “she had gotten to know Ann like a sister.” Unless Ann went to Kenya with Barry after Senior’s death, when would the ‘sistah’ relationship have possibly developed?


7,263 posted on 03/05/2009 11:29:22 AM PST by Gemsbok (If wishes were horses, than beggars would ride)
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To: usmcobra

Cleaning documents prior to campaigning?

Yep, you got that right.

He’s quite the sweeper.

Or, someone pulling the marionette’s strings is the suppressor and scrubber of documents. Obviously, whomever that is must be a typical leftist and certainly nonmilitary without a background in intelligence work, or they would have dealt with the SSA many years ago.


7,264 posted on 03/05/2009 11:37:21 AM PST by Gemsbok (If wishes were horses, than beggars would ride)
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To: Gemsbok

That bring up another point, When Obama’s passport records were checked over by the employees of an Obama adviser, the senate committee that investigated the incident was run by none other then Senator Joe Biden...


7,265 posted on 03/05/2009 11:45:25 AM PST by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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To: usmcobra

Biden,.. now that’s funny. That explains why it took THREE times to do the passport job right, the bumbling fools. If you needed to create and insert documentation, then a double breach would have been necessary, but only fools would require three times and triple the risk of arrest. And Joe’s son, Beau, handled the Sinclair issue in WDC to put an end to that unsavory spectacle.

Which is another interesting scenario. Some how Sinclair was able to offer up the exact dates that O was missing from the Illinois Congressional session and they jived with the nearby military school graduation ceremony LS attended. This, in spite of the absence of records and calendars that O supposedly never kept. Sinclair had to have had an inside tipster to the O records to have picked the right dates from 10 yrs. ago or there is a bit of truth somewhere within his gross story.


7,266 posted on 03/05/2009 12:10:13 PM PST by Gemsbok (If wishes were horses, than beggars would ride)
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To: LucyT

http://www.540wfla.com/main.html

RIGHT NOW my local talk show guy is discussing this issue on his show...and will be getting Mel Martinez (one of our senators) to discuss his citizenship.

Fascinating- discussing the number of law firms that have been hired around the country to keep people from asking questions...and that the soldier asking questions has been told to NOT speak with the media...

Senator Martinez will be on the show after this break.


7,267 posted on 03/05/2009 12:19:45 PM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom

Whoooops- I misunderstood- Martinez was NOT on the show- he was quoted from an article on WND.

Martinez said EVEN IF it were shown that Obama was not eligible to hold the office- he’s been elected and that should supercede the (pesky) constitution...


7,268 posted on 03/05/2009 12:44:21 PM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: usmcobra
Thanks, for the PM -- I fixed the missing picture on my index page.

Here's the picture that was pointing to the dead link (you may appreciate it's poignancy).

I don't welcome war, but know it's sometime is necessary when dictators cannot be "reasoned" with. The same rationale has application in other situations. For example...

Everytime I hear people whine: "But if we remove Obama, we'll have riots."

My response is: "If that's what it takes to maintain the Constitution and the Rule of Law... so be it. We'll recover... "

7,269 posted on 03/05/2009 1:02:50 PM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: Gemsbok
Then we had the expert ‘detractors’ jump in the thread and declare S.Armor Dunham was not the guy in the photos or they somehow disappeared leaving a cold trail.

that kind of thing happened again and again, it distracted from the direction of our enquiries, and as you said, the trail ran cold. The least I ask from now on is that opinions be stated as such, and any information be accompanied by a link or a source.

7,270 posted on 03/05/2009 2:08:58 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: autumnraine; Chief Engineer

CE has explained the deal with the extension courses - IIRC, they still had to be attended in person but in a different place or something? I could be wrong...


7,271 posted on 03/05/2009 3:12:34 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: Gemsbok

Good points, and I figured there weren’t the same number of vaxes required then; Ann could not have said she was preg and if she wasn’t showing how would the doc know. Also could have gone a non-direct route and avoided the vax thing.


7,272 posted on 03/05/2009 3:15:05 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: Gemsbok
After all, the guy had apparently never heard of a condom (1955, possibly true)

You could buy them in gas stations in '55, as well in '60 and '61, just like you sometimes still can. They just weren't on the shelf of the Walgreens, Kresge's, or the local "drug store".

Condoms are centuries old technology. Although lubricated ones only go back to the mid '50 or so. (Not all condoms are made of "rubber", or other artificial material).

7,273 posted on 03/05/2009 4:06:14 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: SE Mom; LucyT

As a reminder: FOR THE RECORD:

A Defined And Serious Injury

People forget that Obama’s lawyers have already admitted that whatever is in Obama’s bona fides would, “cause a defined and serious injury” to Obama and/or the DNC.

During the Federal Circuit Court ruling on Phil Berg’s claim, judge, R. Barclay Surrick, ruled that any objection or refutation had to be served within thirty days. The Obama team contented itself with a motion to dismiss the case and a protective order.

In these motions, Obama’s lawyers argued that revealing the information (birth certificate, citizenship in other countries, etc.) would “cause a defined and serious injury” to Obama and/or the DNC. They argued that revealing these documents raises a “legitimate privacy concern” and the above mentioned risk that “particularly serious embarrassment will result from turning over the requested documentation.” The source of that embarrassment was not specified.

That’s why Obama fights the release of his bona fides — “particularly serious embarrassment will result from turning over the requested documentation.” — his own attorneys said so.

http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaLatest.htm


7,274 posted on 03/05/2009 4:32:11 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: little jeremiah

Ann registered at UW in August/61 and used the address of the Capitol Hill apartment as her address which means she took the extension courses while living in WA state at the Capitol Hill apartment and was still in that same apartment in fall of 1962 when Barbara Cannon Rusk visited her.

See post #6992 for the article about living in WA state and attending UW. There are two other articles which were written about the Capitol Hill apartment but this one contains details which the other articles didn’t. Please excuse the source but you have to go where clues lead you!


7,275 posted on 03/05/2009 7:32:46 PM PST by Chief Engineer
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To: little jeremiah

No attendance is typically required for Extention Coursses. Enrollment and assignments are completed by mail. At most, a proctored test in the attendees own location is required. Most degrees limit the amount of credit that can be accrued through Extension Courses. The course can be taken from any location, even Kenya!


7,276 posted on 03/06/2009 3:27:10 AM PST by Gemsbok (If wishes were horses, than beggars would ride)
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To: little jeremiah; Chief Engineer

The bottom line on vaccinations to Kenya is that today’s recommended preventatives were unavailable in 1960. (Look at the dates I listed for drugs & vax. coming to market.) There was nothing that Ann or anyone else would have needed to take for the trip.

She would have been free as a bird to travel.


7,277 posted on 03/06/2009 3:38:00 AM PST by Gemsbok (If wishes were horses, than beggars would ride)
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To: little jeremiah; Chief Engineer

The bottom line on vaccinations to Kenya is that today’s recommended preventatives were unavailable in 1960. (Look at the dates I listed for drugs & vax. coming to market.) There was nothing that Ann or anyone else would have needed to take for the trip.

She would have been free as a bird to travel.


7,278 posted on 03/06/2009 3:38:00 AM PST by Gemsbok (If wishes were horses, than beggars would ride)
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To: El Gato

The condom ‘toss-in’ on the vaccination topic was my (bad) idea of a joke.

But really, look what 49 cents not spent is now costing this great nation.


7,279 posted on 03/06/2009 3:43:29 AM PST by Gemsbok (If wishes were horses, than beggars would ride)
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To: autumnraine

“”It seemed like several of her courses were “correspondance” courses.””

Yes, and where is the brilliance of of intellect when it takes her decades to get the terminal (PhD) degree?

Ever wonder if the undergraduate degree granted to Zero from Columbia included a series of correspondence courses, extension courses, or field work? It would explain why no one in his graduating class can recall his presence.

His mama taught him well.


7,280 posted on 03/06/2009 3:52:59 AM PST by Gemsbok (If wishes were horses, than beggars would ride)
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To: Gemsbok

Interesting.


7,281 posted on 03/06/2009 8:41:34 AM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: Chief Engineer

Thanks, CE!


7,282 posted on 03/06/2009 8:43:12 AM PST by little jeremiah (THa)
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To: Gemsbok
But really, look what 49 cents not spent is now costing this great nation.

Now that is a true statement! Still I suspect a Kenyan would have thought use of a condom was beneath his manhood or some twaddle like that.

7,283 posted on 03/06/2009 11:13:40 AM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: autumnraine
But they got married in Feb 1961, so for her to go get married in Kenya, she would have to have remained in Kenya from Feb 1961 through August, when Obama was born.

I believe that is exactly what she did.

Although that is speculation on my part. There is no evidence anywhere that I know of to the contrary.

There is a statement somewhere by one of her friends that her father threw her out when he learned she was pregnant and intended to marry Sr. Another that she was estranged from her parents.

Obama Jr. admits somewhere that she was in Kenya 72 hours before he was born.

And there is an interview with wife #1 about how she was initially uncomfortable with the idea that Sr. had married a white babe, after she had the opportunity to spend significant time with Stanley Ann she bonded with her like a sister.

Where did she do that? Only record they ever met was in Chicago at some later date.

The absence of a record of the marriage in Hawaii.

And the complete absence of any record anywhere of her presence in the US or in Hawaii in the period between February and August 8, 1961.

7,284 posted on 03/06/2009 1:23:09 PM PST by David (...)
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To: All

Subject: Does this describe Obama ?

I don’t know anything about this guy Dr. Vaknin, but it is my understanding that he has written extensively about narcissism. Although it is lengthy, it is really worth the read and provides insight (at least Dr. Vaknin’s academic analysis) into the real Hussein.


Dr. Vaknin States “I must confess I was impressed by Sen.Barack Obama from the first time I saw him. At first I was excited to see a black candidate. He looked youthful, spoke well, appeared to be confident - a wholesome presidential package. I was put off soon, not just because of his shallowness but also because there was an air of haughtiness in his demeanor that was unsettling. His posture and his body language were louder than his empty words. Obama’s speeches are unlike any political speech we have heard in American history. Never a politician in this land had such quasi “religious” impact on so many people. The fact that Obama is a total incognito with zero accomplishment, makes this inexplicable infatuation alarming. Obama is not an ordinary man. He is not a genius. In fact he is quite ignorant on most important subjects.”

Barack Obama is a narcissist.

Dr. Sam Vaknin, the author of the Malignant Self Love believes “Barack Obama appears to be a narcissist.” Vaknin is a world authority on narcissism. He understands narcissism and describes the inner mind of a narcissist like no other person. When he talks about narcissism everyone listens. Vaknin says that Obama’s language, posture and demeanor, and the testimonies of his closest, dearest and nearest suggest that the Senator is either a narcissist or he may have narcissistic personality disorder (NPD). Narcissists project a grandiose but false image of themselves. Jim Jones, the charismatic leader of People’s Temple, the man who led over 900 of his followers to cheerfully commit mass suicide and even murder their own children was also a narcissist. David Koresh, Charles Manson, Joseph Koni, Shoko Asahara, Stalin, Saddam, Mao,Kim Jong Ill and Adolph Hitler are a few examples of narcissists of our time. All these men had a tremendous influence over their fanciers. They created a personality cult around themselves and with their blazing speeches elevated their admirers, filled their hearts with enthusiasm and instilled in their minds a new zest for life. They gave them hope! They promised them the moon, but alas, invariably they brought them to their doom. ; When you are a victim of a cult of personality, you don’t know it until it is too late. One determining factor in the development of NPD is childhood abuse.

“Obama’s early life was decidedly chaotic and replete with traumatic and mentally bruising dislocations,” says Vaknin. “Mixed-race marriages were even less common then. His parents went through a divorce when he was an infant (two years old). Obama saw his father only once again, before he died in a car accident.” Then his mother re-married and Obama had to relocate to Indonesia a foreign land with a radically foreign culture, to be raised by a step-father. At the age of ten, he was whisked off to live with his maternal (white)grandparents. He saw his mother only intermittently in the following few years and then she vanished from his life in 1979. She died of cancer in 1995.

One must never underestimate the manipulative genius of pathological narcissists. They project such an imposing personality that it overwhelms those around them. Charmed by the charisma of the narcissist, people become like clay in his hands. They cheerfully do his bidding and delight to be at his service. The narcissist shapes the world around himself and reduces others in his own inverted image. He creates a cult of personality. His admirers become his co-dependents. Narcissists have no interest in things that do not help them to reach their personal objective. They are focused on one thing alone and that is power. All other issues are meaningless to them and they do not want to waste their precious time on trivialities. Anything that does not help them is beneath them and do not deserve their attention.

If an issue raised in the Senate does not help Obama in one way or another, he has no interest in it. The “present” vote is a safe vote. No one can criticize him if things go wrong. Those issues are unworthy by their very nature because they are not about him. Obama’s election as the first black president of the Harvard Law Review led to a contract and advance to write a book about race relations.

The University of Chicago Law School provided him a lot longer than expected and at the end it evolved into, guess what? His own autobiography! Instead of writing a scholarly paper focusing on race relations, for which he had been paid, Obama could not resist writing about his most sublime self. He entitled the book Dreams from My Father.

Not surprisingly, Adolph Hitler also wrote his own autobiography when he was still nobody. So did Stalin. For a narcissist no subject is as important as his own self. Why would he waste his precious time and genius writing about insignificant things when he can write about such an august being as himself? Narcissists are often callous and even ruthless. As the norm, they lack conscience. This is evident from Obama’s lack of interest in his own brother who lives on only one dollar per month.

A man who lives in luxury, who takes a private jet to vacation in Hawaii, and who has raised nearly half a billion dollars for his campaign (something unprecedented in history) has no interest in the plight of his own brother. Why? Because, his brother cannot be used for his ascent to power.

A narcissist cares for no one but himself. This election is like no other in the history of America . The issues are insignificant compared to what is at stake. What can be more dangerous than having a man bereft of conscience, a serial liar, and one who cannot distinguish his fantasies from reality as the leader of the free world? I hate to sound alarmist, but one is a fool if one is not alarmed. Many politicians are narcissists. They pose no threat to others. They are simply self serving and selfish.

Obama evidences symptoms of pathological narcissism, which is different from the run-of-the-mill narcissism of a Richard Nixon or a Bill Clinton for example. To him reality and fantasy are intertwined. This is a mental health issue, not just a character flaw. Pathological narcissists are dangerous because they look normal and even intelligent. It is this disguise that makes them treacherous.

Today the Democrats have placed all their hopes in Obama. But this man could put an end to their party. The great majority of blacks have also decided to vote for Obama. Only a fool does not know that their support for him is racially driven. This is racism, pure and simple. The downside of this is that if Obama turns out to be the disaster I predict, he will cause widespread resentment among the whites.

The blacks are unlikely to give up their support of their man. Cultic mentality is pernicious and unrelenting. They will dig their heads deeper in the sand and blame Obama’s detractors of racism. This will cause a backlash among the whites.

The white supremacists will take advantage of the discontent and they will receive widespread support. I predict that in less than four years, racial tensions will increase to levels never seen since the turbulent 1960’s.

Obama will set the clock back decades... America is the bastion of freedom. The peace of the world depends on the strength of America , and its weakness translates into the triumph of terrorism and victory of rogue nations.

It is no wonder that Ahmadinejad, Hugo Chavez, the Castrists, the Hezbollah, the Hamas, the lawyers of the Guantanamo terrorists and virtually all sworn enemies of America are so thrilled by the prospect of their man in the White House. America is on the verge of destruction. There is no insanity greater than electing a pathological narcissist as president.


7,285 posted on 03/06/2009 8:27:54 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (Atlas Shrugged Mode: ON)
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To: Jet Jaguar
There is no insanity greater than electing a pathological narcissist as president.


7,286 posted on 03/07/2009 2:23:38 AM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: David
Let's have a look at what wiki has to say...

On 2 February 1961, Obama Sr. married fellow student Ann Dunham in Maui, Hawaii[14]

Without witnessess - and no one has seen a record of the marriage.

though she would not find out that her new husband was already married until much later.[15]

Conjecture.

Obama Sr.'s and Dunham's son, Barack Obama II, was born on August 4, 1961.

We do not know Obama Snr was the father, and we do not know the date of birth. The Certification of Live Birth shown on fightthsmears is nothing but a scanned image of a self-serving creation by goodness-know-who.

Dunham left school to care for the baby, while Obama Sr. completed his degree.

Where was she living? No one saw her pregnant nor has anyone come forward who remembers seeing them together.

He graduated from the University of Hawaii in June 1962 (and was elected to Phi Beta Kappa[16])

And during that time, while was at the U of H and she was at home looking after the baby, no one can find where they lived? No one recalls seeing Stanley Ann with Obama Snr and a baby? No photographs of the happy little family?

, leaving shortly thereafter to travel to Cambridge, Massachusetts,

so, he left Hawaii in June 1962 before the baby was one year of age?

where he would begin graduate study at Harvard University in the fall.[15]

where was Obama Snr during that period? From June to Fall could be three months. Where did he live?

Later that summer, Dunham and the year-old baby Barack stopped to visit her friends in Mercer Island, Washington, the Seattle suburb where she had grown up,[15]

Doesn't really make sense, does it?

[17][18] before joining Obama Sr. in Cambridge. However, mother and son soon returned to Seattle, where she enrolled at the University of Washington.[17]

The so-called father left Hawaii in June before the boy was a year old. He was 'missing' for three months. Then suddenly, Stanley Ann turns up and expects to go and live with him in Cambridge?

[15] Dunham, missing her family, then moved back to Hawaii[17] and filed for divorce in Honolulu in January 1964. Obama Sr. did not contest, and the divorce was granted.[14]

stanley ann handwriting samples.

He visited his son only once, in 1971, when Barack was 10 years old.[15]

When he was visiting friends in Hawaii for a reunion. Not a reunion with his 'son'.

While at Harvard, Obama Sr. met an American-born teacher named Ruth Nidesand. She followed him to Kenya when he returned there after he received a master's degree (AM) in economics from Harvard in 1965.[19]

It's possible he felt entitled to begin a relationship with Ruth, the 'marriage' to Stanley Ann was a sham, he wasn't the father of the boy.

AND THE LAST TIME HE SAW HER (before the airport snapshots) IF INDEED HE EVER SAW HER WAS WHEN?

7,287 posted on 03/07/2009 3:18:30 AM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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Percy Sutton (Malcom X's Lawyer) Says Barack Obama Knows And Was Financed By The Racist Radical Muslim And Saudi Advisor Dr. Khalid Al-Mansour, Part IIVIDEO LINK
7,288 posted on 03/07/2009 8:59:57 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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BOokmark.


7,289 posted on 03/08/2009 5:16:32 PM PDT by little jeremiah (THa)
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To: David
Film to Be Made in Hawaii of Obama's Birth
Perhaps a film made in Hawaii will put the idea to rest that Obama was not born in the United States. For some skeptics showing a birth certificate might not have been enough. Now some University students are about to produce a film about Obama's birth. These University of Hawaii students will use a cast of local people for the story that takes place at Kapiolani Medical Center, the place where it is conjectured Obama was born. The story will relate how nurses and staff would feel if they knew that the child born there was going to grow up to be President of the United States.
There's a certain honesty here. The "birth certificate" is equated to a fictionalization of Obama's birth.
7,290 posted on 03/08/2009 5:23:32 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Fred Nerks

Just a few comments, don’t depend on Wiki as anything but a starting point especially as it relates to Jr. Ann and infant Jr were in Washington state by August 1961 when she registered for classes at University of Washington using the Capitol Hill apartment address as her address. She was still living at that address in fall of 1962 when Barbara Cannon Rusk visited her.
Obama Sr returned to Kenya from Harvard in 1964, not 1965 as has been widely reported. Before he arrived at Harvard he took a three month tour of mainland U.S.A. Son Mark was born in 1964 although no month has been given, nor has any date been given for the marriage of Sr and Ruth.


7,291 posted on 03/09/2009 7:18:43 PM PDT by Chief Engineer
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To: LucyT

Is this sloppy reporting or did they finally slip up in this story?

Quote from story:

“A friend of Obama’s family for four decades, Abercrombie campaigned here and on the mainland for the Hawaii-born candidate.”

Found here:
http://www.starbulletin.com/news/20090309_abercrombie_grabs_obamas_coattails.html

The numbers don’t add up, Abercrombie has said in the past that he knew Sr and Ann way back when and remembered Jr as a tiny baby but that sentence says he knew the family for 40 years, Jr is 47. Also if I remember correctly Abercrombie didn’t arrive in Hawaii until 1960.


7,292 posted on 03/09/2009 7:20:08 PM PDT by Chief Engineer
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Good find, Chief Engineer.

The numbers don’t add up, Abercrombie has said in the past that he knew Sr and Ann way back when and remembered Jr as a tiny baby but that sentence says he knew the family for 40 years, Jr is 47.

7,293 posted on 03/09/2009 8:01:54 PM PDT by LucyT
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Thanks, Fred Nerks.

Begin here and read to bottom of page for updates. Commentary by David at #7284.


7,294 posted on 03/09/2009 8:05:59 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: Chief Engineer

Have you seen any pictures of Madelyn and Stanley Ann (as an adult) together?


7,295 posted on 03/09/2009 8:18:40 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Gemsbok

Ever wonder if the undergraduate degree granted to Zero from Columbia included a series of correspondence courses, extension courses, or field work? It would explain why no one in his graduating class can recall his presence.

***Do we really know that he has a degree from Columbia or anywhere for that matter?

I’ve often wondered how much Michelle knows?


7,296 posted on 03/09/2009 8:22:31 PM PDT by azishot (I just joined the NRA.)
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To: LucyT

Thanks for the ping...Dems are not good with numbers.


7,297 posted on 03/09/2009 8:27:20 PM PDT by azishot (I just joined the NRA.)
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To: LucyT

Thanks just sent you another find you will have to c&p in my arm is giving me real trouble tonight with weather changes and it took me 20 minutes to type up the little I did but it gives the reason why Sr’s name isn’t amongst the names of Kenyan students arriving Sept.9/59. We all missed it before. oops


7,298 posted on 03/09/2009 8:31:38 PM PDT by Chief Engineer
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

None that were ever released, it seems Maya was in charge of most of the photos that were released. We don’t even know if Madelyn attended Jr’s wedding considering that it took place less than eight months after Stanley Armour’s death. The one single baby picture of Jr wasn’t released until after Madelyn’s death(a professional photo of a 6 to 8 month old by himself), before then the only pictures of a young Jr were of a toddler and older. We don’t even see many photos of Ann and Jr once he came back to HI.


7,299 posted on 03/09/2009 8:41:06 PM PDT by Chief Engineer
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Thanks, Chief Engineer. What about the photo at the dock? When was it taken? Was Sr. arriving in Hawaii from the Mainland?

Sr. wasn’t among those named students arriving Sept.9, 1959. He arrived in June/59 as per mcauley’s.

“When Obama Sr. arrived in Hawaii in June 1959, future President Kenyatta was in jail in Kenya.” as reported by a story done in HI paper after he arrived as said:

“The Washington Post Reported that when Barack Obama, Sr. first arrived in Hawaii he was interviewed by the Hawain Press, the reporter Hirozawa relays Obama’s comments, “he would study business administration and wanted to return to Kenya to help with its transition from tribal customs to a modern economy.”

He was concerned, he said, about his generation’s disorientation as Kenyans rejected old ways yet struggled with “westernization”.” so evidently the date of the story was JUNE, 1959.

The whole story is a lie right from word one of daddy arrived courtesy of an airlift.

He didn’t even arrive with the other students, he arrived months before them, so the question becomes why?

All of this can be found at the following link aside from speculation of why.

http://mcauleysworld.wordpress.com/2008/11/08/part-4-continued-4b-barack-obama-the-unauthorized-biography-of-a-marxist-obama-sr-and-stanley-ann-dunham-11-months-in-hawaii/


7,300 posted on 03/09/2009 8:42:32 PM PDT by LucyT
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