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Blogger admits Hawaii birth certificate forgery, subverting Obama claims (Uh-oh)
Israel Insider ^ | 3 July 2008 | Reuven Koret

Posted on 07/03/2008 4:35:19 PM PDT by SE Mom

Jay McKinnon, a self-described Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist, has implicated himself in the production of fraudulent Hawaii birth certificate images similar to the one endorsed as genuine by the Barack Obama campaign, and appearing on the same blog entry where the supposedly authentic document appears.

The evidence of forgery and manipulation of images of official documents, triggered by Israel Insider's revelation of the collection of Hawaii birth certificate images on the Photobucket site and the detective work of independent investigative journalists and imaging professionals in the three weeks since the publication of the images, implicate the Daily Kos, an extreme left blog site, and the Obama campaign, in misleading the public with official-looking but manipulated document images of doubtful provenance.

The perceived unreliability of the image has provoked petitions and widespread demands for Obama to submit for objective inspection the paper versions of the "birth certificate" he claimed in his book Dreams from My Father was in his possession, as well as the paper version of the Certificate of Live Birth for which the image on the Daily Kos and the Obama "Fight the Smears" website was supposedly generated.

Without a valid birth certificate, Obama cannot prove he fulfills the "natural born citizen" requirement of the Constitution, throwing into doubt his eligibility to run for President.

McKinnon, who says he is 25-30 years old, operates a website called OpenDNA.com and uses the OpenDNA screen name on various web sites and blogs, including his comments and diary on The Daily Kos. In recent years he has divided his time between Long Beach, California and Vancouver, British Columbia. He is a Democratic political activist, frequent contributor to the left wing Daily Kos blog, and a fervent Barack Obama supporter.

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To: Irish Rose
and if Obama’s real birth certificate shows that he was not born a U.S. citizen

I suspicion it's not the place of birth he doesn't want seen...

What was his name at birth? was it Barry Dunham -

Why is the race of his mother listed as "Caucasian" but of his father "African"?

"African" is not a race. People of all colors and races are born in Africa.

What is it that the obamination doesn't want us to see?

51 posted on 07/03/2008 5:02:20 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (No trees were killed in sending this message but a large number of electrons were terrible agitated)
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To: MississippiMan; Polarik

For all of those docs and more- go to Polarik’s blog on Townhall:

http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/2008/06/29/proof_positive_that_photoshop_was_used_on_the_bc_image_posted_in_the_daily_kos.thtml


52 posted on 07/03/2008 5:03:58 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Dog Gone

No, it is stupid to post a forgery and claim its real. THAT IS WHAT IS STUPID


53 posted on 07/03/2008 5:05:22 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Petronski

Well, there were many of us digging hard. SOmeone was going to have to fess up sooner or later.


54 posted on 07/03/2008 5:06:39 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: P-Marlowe; SE Mom

Hillary will be all over this like butter on toast.

Nonetheless, this could be some form of misinformation campaign to discredit the opposition.

I’d proceed with caution.

If Hillary bites, then there’s something there. How can we tell if she gets interested? She’d eventually have to say something public, but humbly, discreetly.


55 posted on 07/03/2008 5:06:40 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: SE Mom

Is Israel Insider an accurate source? I’ve never heard of them.


56 posted on 07/03/2008 5:08:09 PM PDT by smithone
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To: soupcon

Yeah? And your point is???


57 posted on 07/03/2008 5:08:23 PM PDT by null and void (every Muslim, the minute he can differentiate, carries hate of Americans, Jews & Christians - OBL)
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To: Jim Robinson; SE Mom; Buckhead

For once, I see the shadow of a Clinton and am *almost* pleased about it.

What a set-up. Obama may be down for the count with this.


58 posted on 07/03/2008 5:08:23 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: Dog; Bahbah; STARWISE

Over here...


59 posted on 07/03/2008 5:08:23 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: rdl6989

Slogans you can dangle a preposition from


60 posted on 07/03/2008 5:08:35 PM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: xzins

No misinformation. Just forgery.


61 posted on 07/03/2008 5:08:51 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

The minute I heard Bill instructing Obama to kiss his ass, I knew this was going to become real. When Hillary said Obama was ‘unelectable’, I read it literally.


62 posted on 07/03/2008 5:10:01 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: SE Mom

WOW!! BUMP to read later!!!!!


63 posted on 07/03/2008 5:10:41 PM PDT by It's me
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To: P-Marlowe

He isn’t authorized to practice in Illinois.

http://www.iardc.org/ldetail.asp?id=249411285


64 posted on 07/03/2008 5:11:05 PM PDT by nobama08
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To: smithone

The site has been around for quite awhile- and covers mostly Israeli news and doings..but for whatever reason- they’ve taken an interest in this story- and have done outstanding research. This is the 4th piece they’ve done on Certigate.

Take the time to read all 4 pieces. Compelling.


65 posted on 07/03/2008 5:11:13 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Petronski

LOL!!!


66 posted on 07/03/2008 5:11:51 PM PDT by allmendream
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To: SE Mom

Thanks, I’ve been reading along and checking the links.

It’s a forgery. But why do it?


67 posted on 07/03/2008 5:12:00 PM PDT by Bahbah (Typical white person)
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To: SE Mom

So, some liberal admits to creating forgeries and we assume that obama’s is one of them? S T R E T C H ?


68 posted on 07/03/2008 5:12:03 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: SE Mom

So I read the whole article looking for the spot that says somebody had admitted forging the document. It turns out he had created other, similar forgeries, but not that document.

The MSM didn’t pick it up because nothing has changed. Given their liberal leanings, we won’t be seeing anything about this until somebody proves it is a fake.


69 posted on 07/03/2008 5:13:23 PM PDT by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: Dog Gone
It doesn't matter where Obama was born. If his mother was a US citizen, then he is. Even if he was born in Cuba or North Korea.

To be President one has to be a "native-born citizen" If Obama's Mama gave birth to him in another country then that would make him a "citizen at birth" but not a "native-born citizen" It's worth knowing since its Constitutional and would set precedent that the Libs would love.

I wonder if there were posts like yours over the Bush documents. These people are not above forgery.
70 posted on 07/03/2008 5:13:39 PM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: Petronski
The point here isn't that it's stupid to talk about. The point is that someone from his campaign put out a fake BC!! Sure, this will go no where because of the MSM, but anyone sitting on the fence actually looking at the candidates with more interest than normal, will look at this as another nobama campaign judgment issue. They're building up one after another. In no way is this stupid, that's just another lefty trying to quiet the right about talking about anything negative on nobama, such as his monstrous ears. LOL
71 posted on 07/03/2008 5:13:49 PM PDT by cla62
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To: nobama08

Really...

But he WAS practicing there at one time, he worked in a law firm in Chicago.

Or was he only doing para-legal type work there?

(Shamelss, knee-jerk speculation)


72 posted on 07/03/2008 5:13:54 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: txflake
The minute I heard Bill instructing Obama to kiss his ass, I knew this was going to become real. When Hillary said Obama was ‘unelectable’, I read it literally.

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There is a group of die-hard Hillary supporters who started a "political" party called PUMA (Party Unity My Ass). I think that Bill was giving them props.

73 posted on 07/03/2008 5:14:30 PM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: SE Mom

OK, will do.
Thanks.


74 posted on 07/03/2008 5:14:44 PM PDT by smithone
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To: pissant

Fist bump.

75 posted on 07/03/2008 5:15:33 PM PDT by fanfan (SCC:Canadians have constitutional protection to all opinions, as long as they are based on the facts)
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To: nobama08
Date of Admission as Lawyer by Illinois Supreme Court: December 17, 1991

I think that would be admission to the State Bar of Illinois. Now I'm wondering if he took the bar exam. Required for admission.

76 posted on 07/03/2008 5:15:37 PM PDT by Bahbah (Typical white person)
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To: SE Mom

Show of hands from those who believe that this will disqualify Obama from the presidency.

Show of hands from those who believe that this is evidence that Obama was actually cloned in Brazil from a genetic cocktail of Adolf Hitler and Ayatollah Khomeini.

Show of hands from those who really just need to chill and have a....

HAPPY 4TH of JULY!


77 posted on 07/03/2008 5:15:45 PM PDT by Natchez Hawk (So sue me.)
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To: pissant
No, it is stupid to post a forgery and claim its real. THAT IS WHAT IS STUPID

That is stupid, agreed. But 99% of Freepers think it actually matters to his eligibility to be President.

It doesn't matter how often you tell them. That's what is embarrassing.

I just dropped in and will leave now.

78 posted on 07/03/2008 5:15:58 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: pissant; y'all

Who has the best summarized records of passportgate (where somebody got busted trying to access passport records for the candidates, and Obama shrieked the loudest) and even Condi Rice profusely apologized?


79 posted on 07/03/2008 5:16:30 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: Irish Rose
do you know what the fallout could be?

Lots of Urban areas on fire would be my guess.

80 posted on 07/03/2008 5:16:39 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: Lurker

Wonder where this POS works ?


81 posted on 07/03/2008 5:17:03 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: SE Mom
The site has been around for quite awhile- and covers mostly Israeli news and doings..but for whatever reason

Perhaps some Israelis think a US president who just might be a muslim is not in their best interests?

82 posted on 07/03/2008 5:17:30 PM PDT by null and void (every Muslim, the minute he can differentiate, carries hate of Americans, Jews & Christians - OBL)
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To: Jeff Head; Cindy; Beckwith; johnstown; fml

Ping!


83 posted on 07/03/2008 5:18:13 PM PDT by fanfan (SCC:Canadians have constitutional protection to all opinions, as long as they are based on the facts)
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To: SE Mom

*BUMP* !


84 posted on 07/03/2008 5:18:44 PM PDT by ex-Texan (Matthew 7: 1 - 6)
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To: SE Mom

Anyone actually CONFIRMED this story before we get all warm and fuzzy ?

I hope and pray it is true !!!!!


85 posted on 07/03/2008 5:19:06 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Bahbah
It’s a forgery. But why do it?

Seriously?

86 posted on 07/03/2008 5:19:06 PM PDT by null and void (every Muslim, the minute he can differentiate, carries hate of Americans, Jews & Christians - OBL)
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To: socialismisinsidious
To be President one has to be a "native-born citizen" If Obama's Mama gave birth to him in another country then that would make him a "citizen at birth" but not a "native-born citizen" It's worth knowing since its Constitutional and would set precedent that the Libs would love.

You're factually and legally incorrect.

87 posted on 07/03/2008 5:19:11 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: SE Mom
http://www.democracyforamerica.com/users/232919-jay-mckinnon

Is this the guy the article is talking about? Political Skills: canvassing, phonebanking, media design, strategy, policy, data mining, messaging, media stunts,

88 posted on 07/03/2008 5:19:18 PM PDT by Aglooka
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To: Dog Gone

I understand why you think that way. But consider this point for a moment.

IT DOESN’T MATTER WHY the bc is a forgery- the point remains- it is.

What MATTERS is that on his OWN website, he has presented this as a legitimate, legal document. That has a name. It’s called FRAUD. It’s a crime.

Where he was born, if his parents were or were not married, if instead of African his father was really listed as Arab- ALL the speculation about WHY- is- for the momemt- beside the point.


89 posted on 07/03/2008 5:19:21 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Dog Gone

I understand your point. And yes, people are conflating issues here.

Have a excellent Independence Day.


90 posted on 07/03/2008 5:19:44 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: SE Mom
The site has been around for quite awhile- and covers mostly Israeli news and doings..but for whatever reason- they’ve taken an interest in this story.

Probably because Israel knows that an Obama presidency would be awful for them too.

91 posted on 07/03/2008 5:21:41 PM PDT by library user (There's no sandwich like prawn sandwich.)
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To: SE Mom

Well, well, well. Thank you for the link!


92 posted on 07/03/2008 5:21:58 PM PDT by TheWasteLand
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To: SE Mom
It’s called FRAUD. It’s a crime.

Well, its not like its a felony or anything, which would REALLY be disqualifying.

... oh wait, that would be disqualifying too... for a republican.

93 posted on 07/03/2008 5:23:04 PM PDT by C210N (The television has mounted the most serious assault on Republicanism since Das Kapital.)
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To: SE Mom

This is fun...like a robert ludlum novel, the real people behind the Obama covert plant are the Soviets and Chinese working with the Iranians. Where is Bourne when you need him?


94 posted on 07/03/2008 5:23:19 PM PDT by huldah1776 ( Worthy is the Lamb)
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To: eastforker

Interesting point. I was born in ‘56, and I distinctly remember how wild things were from about 1966 until the end of the Viet Nam war, and Nixon’s resignation. It was just crazy then, 24/7. Being a young teen for much of that time, I just thought it was “normal” to live in interesting times, as the old Chinese proverb goes.


95 posted on 07/03/2008 5:23:19 PM PDT by willgolfforfood
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To: SE Mom


"This is not the birth certificate I once knew."

96 posted on 07/03/2008 5:24:05 PM PDT by library user (There's no sandwich like prawn sandwich.)
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To: Raycpa

So, some liberal admits to creating forgeries and we assume that obama’s is one of them? S T R E T C H ?


Read before you leap :) The birth certificate that was published on Daily Kos, and the one on BARACK OBAMA’s OWN WEBSITE are one and the same forged doc.

They have been gone over and over by some tech savvy freepers and others at length and the conclusion has been that these are either outright forgeries- or- they’ve been tampered with.


97 posted on 07/03/2008 5:24:23 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Dog Gone

Without a valid birth certificate, Obama cannot prove he fulfills the “natural born citizen” requirement of the Constitution, throwing into doubt his eligibility to run for President.

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It is embarrassing to watch FR do this.

It doesn’t matter where Obama was born. If his mother was a US citizen, then he is.

Even if he was born in Cuba or North Korea.

Carry on with the insanity. I sure can’t stop it.

But it’s stupid, it makes FR look stupid, and if that’s fine with everyone, keep it up.
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It is NOT stupid.

Read other FR post on the subject.

Based on the law in effect at the time of his birth, if he was actually born in another country, it doesn’t look like he is considered a natural-born citizen.

I think the law says that if only one parent is a US citizen, that parent must have lived in the US for 10 years, at least five of which was after the parent was 16.

Obama’s mother was 18 when he was born. Thus she had not lived in the US for 5 years after her 16th birthday.

Thus this is VERY important.


98 posted on 07/03/2008 5:24:24 PM PDT by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: tiredoflaundry

Obama will just have to be born again; that will resonate with his current faith-based shenanigans.


99 posted on 07/03/2008 5:25:08 PM PDT by mathurine
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To: All

The perp of the ‘crime’ is Democrat - then why do this to one of his horses in the race?

Nope - too easily explained.

I still believe there is something amiss in the birth records of Obama - if not why has he not cleared it up???

His omissions are shouting at what I believe the man is deep inside with his avoidance behavior - he’ll put anything over to gain access to the prize hoping we’ll forget or accept a lame excuse from a Democrat flunky.

He is without conscience.

Is this presidential material?


100 posted on 07/03/2008 5:25:29 PM PDT by imintrouble
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