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THIS ISN'T THE ROAD TO SERFDOM, THIS IS SERFDOM.
The Virginian ^ | 7/4/2008 | Moneyrunner/PrestoPundit

Posted on 07/04/2008 2:11:16 PM PDT by moneyrunner

National service mandated by the state is what Europe had for centuries. It was called serfdom. For example, in France, citizens were required to perform public service building and repairing roads and other public projects for hundreds and thousands of hours a year. Serfdom wasn't eliminated in France until the French revolution, one of the "liberty" parts of that revolution. It was largely the American revolution which inspired this escape from serfdom. Indeed, the American revolution was all about escaping from the European model of servitude, with the American's insisting that even very moderate taxation without representation was a form of oppressive servitude. Incredibly, Barack Obama somehow believes that advocacy of a return to European style serfdom is a good way to celebrate the American Declaration of Independence from the oppression of English tyranny.

I especially liked this part of Obama's speech:

when I'm President, I will set a goal for all American middle and high school students to perform 50 hours of service a year, and for all college students to perform 100 hours of service a year. This means that by the time you graduate college, you'll have done 17 weeks of service. We'll reach this goal in several ways. At the middle and high school level, we'll make federal assistance conditional on school districts developing service programs, and give schools resources to offer new service opportunities.

Your children will be made serfs. But not well. The children of the rich and privileged like those of Barack and Michelle Obama who attend elite private schools will be exempt from the system of servitude Obama and the Lear Jet Left will construct for your children.

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KEYWORDS: fascism; liberalism; obama; publikskoolz; serfdom

1 posted on 07/04/2008 2:11:17 PM PDT by moneyrunner
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To: moneyrunner

It isn’t the purpose of government to direct the efforts of citizens, it is the purpose of government to protect the right of a citizen to direct his own efforts as he sees fit.

I like the idea of citizens serving citizens. There is a name for it, when its voluntary: its called free enterprise. Thats what capitalism is, free citizens serving free citizens.

If you don’t want to charge for your efforts, thats your business. Lots of people do favors for one another all the time. Its as natural as getting up in the morning. Forcing someone to do you a favor, however, is violence against that person.


2 posted on 07/04/2008 2:19:53 PM PDT by marron
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To: moneyrunner

They’ll have to send me to jail or maybe a re-education camp before I let my kids become serfs or slaves of the state. Screw obama!


3 posted on 07/04/2008 2:31:22 PM PDT by ArchAngel1983 (Arch Angel- on guard)
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To: moneyrunner

Exactly why the country has been greatly improved by the volunteer armed forces.


4 posted on 07/04/2008 2:38:40 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Huma for co-president! (it ain't over 'til it's over))
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To: moneyrunner

Will everyone have to work for free or just legal citizens?

Does this mean that prisoners can be forced into labor again?


5 posted on 07/04/2008 2:57:14 PM PDT by weegee (CHANGE? A more truthful slogan would be to proclaim Obama the candidate of FLIP FLOP.)
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To: ArchAngel1983
They’ll have to send me to jail or maybe a re-education camp before I let my kids become serfs or slaves of the state. Screw obama!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

People will readily submit to slavery in order to collect a scholarship. It is like Esau selling his blessing for a bowl of stew.

6 posted on 07/04/2008 3:05:37 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: moneyrunner

Any such public service would be un-constitutional. Government can compel you to perform some kind of service, but they have to pay you for it. Given how corrupt our federal courts are, I dont count on the court striking such law down..

If this ever becomes law, it’s time to start thinking of an exit strategy from this land...


7 posted on 07/04/2008 3:18:16 PM PDT by doomtrooper99
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To: moneyrunner; Just another Joe; CSM; lockjaw02; Publius6961; elkfersupper; nopardons; metesky; ...

Nanny State Ping.

I am not happy about John McCain being the nominee, but the alternative is far worse in my personal opinion.


8 posted on 07/04/2008 3:19:20 PM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my dad I'm a lobbyist, he thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: moneyrunner
I think Americans should volunteer for the military or do to service on its behalf to keep our country strong, proud and free. But that's the one type of service that will be reviled by the Left.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

9 posted on 07/04/2008 3:23:46 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: moneyrunner
"...I will set a goal for all American middle and high school students to perform 50 hours of service a year..."

....And they better sell every vial they are given.

10 posted on 07/04/2008 3:28:15 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: moneyrunner

The local school district already has a community service requirement. 60 hours or no diploma.

In the past they have credited purely partisan activities such as participating in the demonstrations in favor of - but not against - amnesty for illegal immigrants.


11 posted on 07/04/2008 3:29:30 PM PDT by CGTRWK
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To: CGTRWK
The local school district already has a community service requirement. 60 hours or no diploma.

In the past they have credited purely partisan activities such as participating in the demonstrations in favor of - but not against - amnesty for illegal immigrants.


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12 posted on 07/04/2008 3:39:09 PM PDT by B-Cause (It's not what you gather, but what you scatter that tells what kind of life you have lived.)
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To: Gabz

Oh, yes, the dem nominee is far, far worse. But, even with some of our stupid regulations and laws in this country, I still love this country (But why does it have to be a constrant struggle? LOL):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRvVzaQ6i8A&feature=related


13 posted on 07/04/2008 3:40:14 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: moneyrunner

What kind of “community service”?
Why does delivering hot meals to crack houses come to mind?


14 posted on 07/04/2008 3:44:30 PM PDT by djf (I don't believe in perpetual motion. Perpetual mutton, that's another thing entirely!)
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To: GOP_Lady
Now, if you elect dems, in addition to these stupid rules and regulations, you'll get this rendition (WARNING!!!):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfZ_gXCHaMw&feature=related

15 posted on 07/04/2008 3:47:19 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: moneyrunner

Does “From each according to his ability, to each according to his need” ring any bells.


16 posted on 07/04/2008 3:57:51 PM PDT by JimSEA (Kaffur and proud of it.)
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To: moneyrunner

Those engaged in forced service to the state should also wear armbands. I suggest a democrat donkey rather than the nazi cross.


17 posted on 07/04/2008 4:33:55 PM PDT by Need4Truth
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To: moneyrunner

Notice that Hussein is using Federal aid as a club to enforce this serfdom on local jurisdictions. Notice also that he wants to expand the Federal involvement with “faith-based” service activities. That was one of Bush’s most stupid mistakes. He opened the door to Federal regulation and control of one of the last remaining independent and private social programs: those run by churches. Obama will drive a tank through that door, using Federal control to advance the leftist agenda, whether it’s “gay rights,” pro-Muslim multiculturalism, etc. We will see huge grants to outfits like Jeremiah Wright’s church and Father Pfleger’s, and punishment of organizations like Focus on the Family. The remaining freedom of the church will be destroyed.


18 posted on 07/04/2008 4:34:55 PM PDT by hellbender
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To: moneyrunner
Aha! Obama is proposing a multi-ethnic, multicultural plantation.

If college students have to perform service for the State, then the State should free the students from their excessive college loans.

19 posted on 07/04/2008 4:38:43 PM PDT by magooey (stop the bs, fight the war!)
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To: JimSEA
"Does “From each according to his ability, to each according to his need” ring any bells."

It does for me!  The rotten communist regime I grow up under, did the same to me and all my fellow students during my High school years.  We were forced for at least 1 month of labor each year to government owned potato and corn fields , then we had to catch up with our study.  Also, we were forced to do digging for the foundations of new hotels in the mountains/resort areas.   Obama and alike people are dangerous for this country!!

Celebrate the 4-th of July, till you can!

20 posted on 07/04/2008 4:40:09 PM PDT by OneHun
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To: OneHun

Happy July 4th!!!!!


21 posted on 07/04/2008 4:46:27 PM PDT by JimSEA (Kaffur and proud of it.)
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To: moneyrunner

All non-exempt kids will be force to join where they be taught to be citizens and how to vote.


22 posted on 07/04/2008 4:57:17 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Obama's idea of trickle-down economics is to piss on business.)
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To: doomtrooper99
it’s time to start thinking of an exit strategy from this land...

Just remember, there is the 2nd ammendment.

23 posted on 07/04/2008 4:59:26 PM PDT by tbpiper (NObama '08 - Unfit in any color)
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To: wintertime
People will readily submit to slavery in order to collect a scholarship.

Yep, mine are having to do that crap right now here in Florida, and I despise it. 17 weeks today, 170 weeks tomorrow.

24 posted on 07/04/2008 6:03:32 PM PDT by The Duke (I have met the enemy, and he is named 'Apathy'!)
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To: hellbender
Notice also that he wants to expand the Federal involvement with “faith-based” service activities.

But BHO wants to force the faith based organizations to hire people inimical to the organizations' beliefs. That's like Rev. Wright's church being forced to hire Ayrian Nation parolees.

25 posted on 07/04/2008 6:09:57 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Obama's idea of trickle-down economics is to piss on business.)
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To: OneHun
Celebrate the 4-th of July, till you can!

The 4th of July is a date. Independence Day is National celebration of our independence.

Other than that you have got it right about what this guy is planning.

26 posted on 07/04/2008 6:14:01 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Obama's idea of trickle-down economics is to piss on business.)
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To: OneHun

Sounds like slavery to me.


27 posted on 07/04/2008 6:20:49 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: moneyrunner

Lear Jet Leftists, Limousine Liberals....they are so smart!!!

Socialism, Communism have failed everywhere it has ever been tried....in their minds the only reason it failed was because somebody as smart as they are wasn’t in charge. Trotsky, Lenin, Stalin....all dumb asses.

If somebody as smart as them were around, Socialism would have worked.


28 posted on 07/04/2008 6:24:48 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Gabz

Very much agreed.


29 posted on 07/04/2008 6:39:12 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (The game is over "my friends" and has been for a long time.)
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To: CGTRWK
The local school district already has a community service requirement. 60 hours or no diploma.

Practically every misdemeanor conviction carries a "community service" requirement.

In this town, watering your lawn at the wrong time, mowing your lawn too long or short or not mowing your lawn at all, having your bushes encroach on the sidewalk or having your tree hang less than 7' over the sidewalk, not feeding and watering your pet in the proper size and consistency bowl, and a thousand other things are misdemeanors.

30 posted on 07/04/2008 6:49:40 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: moneyrunner

bttt


31 posted on 07/04/2008 6:56:19 PM PDT by SuperLuminal
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To: GOP_Lady
Very nice video. Marvin Gaye was a favorite.

Let's not forget another black (and blind) man who didn't let his "victimhood" get in the way of his success and legacy in America.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghz4_kikLkE&feature=related

32 posted on 07/04/2008 7:05:31 PM PDT by HoosierHawk (Hypocrisy does not apply to liberals.)
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To: Mike Darancette
Independence Day is National celebration of our independence.

I stopped celebrating Independence Day in 1996.

That was the year I realized that the vast majority of my fellow citizens not only did not understand the concept of liberty, but they also did not want it.

33 posted on 07/04/2008 7:11:53 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: moneyrunner

Private schools have been foisting this on kids for 20 years. I was forced to do it in the late 80’s. 50 hours as a junior. 100 hours as a senior. If you didn’t comply you didn’t get a diploma.

meh. It’s all communist crap meant to teach you that you are lucky to have what you have and you need to be taxed via your time to appease those who have power over you.

Those of us who weren’t well-off and had to work to pay for our cars were really screwed. How could you work, play sports, study, go to school, chase girls, AND do community service?


34 posted on 07/04/2008 7:19:29 PM PDT by laxcoach
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To: B-Cause

“Conspiracy against the taxpayer” is not exactly full of surprises to me, but gosh I do not have time to finish it all this night.

I suppose that the other links are equally informative.

I’ll be sharing these linked articles with some friends.

Thanks for posting.


35 posted on 07/04/2008 7:47:32 PM PDT by Radix (Think it is bad now? Wait until you have to press "2" for English!)
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To: Mike Darancette
That's coming, I'm sure. But the big mistake was getting the govt. involved with faith-based activities in the first place, and for that we can thank dopey G.W. Bush. If that guy had half a brain, he would have learned long ago that govt. aid always leads to govt. control. In fact, I remember 50 years or so ago, wise people raised that warning about the first govt. aid programs; the libs laughed off their objections.

The church has been one of the last bastions of independent non-governmental values and activities. The Left set out to destroy and subvert religion years ago, and under the Satanically-slick and deceptive Hussein, they are about to complete their conquest. Thanks a lot, Bush.

36 posted on 07/04/2008 7:54:37 PM PDT by hellbender
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To: moneyrunner

Got another link to his comments? Websense at my work doesn’t allow me to view blogs.


37 posted on 07/04/2008 8:43:41 PM PDT by Lusis ("Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself.")
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To: Lusis

Nevermind, google is my friend:

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/jul/02/text-obamas-speech/


38 posted on 07/04/2008 8:56:35 PM PDT by Lusis ("Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself.")
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To: Gabz

Thanks for the ping!


39 posted on 07/04/2008 10:26:21 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Gabz
I am not happy about John McCain being the nominee, but the alternative is far worse in my personal opinion.

I am 56 years old and I am through "settling".

I'm writing in somebody, even if it is only myself.

40 posted on 07/06/2008 7:30:03 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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