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Larry Sinclair, Obama's bad penny
Red Ink Texas ^ | 7/8/08 | Red

Posted on 07/09/2008 7:22:43 AM PDT by pissant

You might recall Larry Sinclair was the person who claimed to have smoked crack and had gay sex with Obama back in 1999. The allegation surfaced back in January 2008 via an infamous YouTube video. At the time it was blown off as a crank who was just out to smear "The Lightworker", probably put up to it by the Clintons, who are not exactly squeamish about playing dirty. Remember Vince Foster's little walk in the park? Well, that bad penny just won't go away. The story refuses to die, and in fact keeps growing and expanding. According to a sworn affidavit signed by Larry Sinclair, Sinclair contacted Obama's campaign back in September 2007 concerning Obama's statement concerning when he had last used crack cocaine. Sinclair claimed that he felt that it was important that the voters know about Obama's more recent cocaine use. Sinclair wanted Obama to publically admit that he had used cocaine as recently as 1999.

Sinclair claimed that he had made a number of calls that were not returned, then in October 2007, A man identifying himself as Mr. Young called him back and interrogated Sinclair as to who he had told about the encounter and why he had not mentioned the sex angle. Since Sinclair claims to have not mentioned the sex and that Mr Young was the first to broach the subject, this would tend to indicate that Mr Young was well aware of what had happened in that Limo. a couple weeks later, Sinclair claims that Mr Young called back, and through his tone and content of the conversation, he claims it became clear to him that Mr. Young was not in fact a campaign staffer, but was in fact an intimate of Obama. Further, by this time, Sinclair had moved to Delaware and had not told the Obama Campaign where he had moved to, or how he could be reached, but yet they found him anyway, which indicates that he was the subject of some form of surveillence or investigation, which would seem reasonable given the circumstances. A week or so later he claims to have recieved a text message from Mr. Young stating that he was intimate with Obama and that he, Obama and Obama's pastor (that would be the infamous Jeremiah Wright) were discussing how to disclose the drug use and that he wanted to ensure that no mention of the incident had been made or would be made to anyone. Again in November another text message to yet a different undisclosed cell number in yet another state (Minnesota this time) that Obama was going to disclose his drug use and that there was no reason for Sinclair to disclose anything to anyone. By December, it was clear that Obama was not going to disclose anything to anyone and that Mr Young was merely stringing him along to milk him for information, so Sinclair decided to go public. Hence the Youtube video.

Mr Young turns out to be one Donald Young, an openly gay Chior director at Trinity United Church, and fourth grade math teacher. On December 23, Mr. Young was murdered in his home, and his killer has not been found. Mr. Young was not the only gay black victim of murder in Chicago, There were two other gay men that were murdered within days of each other, Kevin Clewer, and Larry Bland. All three died within a 40 day period.

Now, this is starting to sound really fishy. It sounds to me like someone is going around and cleaning up behind Obama. It would appear that Larry Sinclair may have thrown a wrench into the works by making his video and publishing it online. Doing so, at the time seemed ameteurish and cheezy, but Sinclair may very well have saved his life by doing so.

Now things really start to get strange.

In June, Sinclair was scheduled to appear in the National Press Club and give a press conference concerning the Chicago PD questioning him back in April about his contacts with Donald Young as part of his murder investigation. Apparently Joseph Biden III, Attorney General of Delaware, and son of Joe Biden, Senator from Delaware, had sworn out an arrest warrant for an alleged case of a motel room paid for with counterfeit money orders. Sinclair claims to never having paid for a single day, much less two weeks worth of room rental at a Rodeway Inn with money orders counterfeit or not. Whether he did or not, I have no way of knowing, but the Wilmington De Police had investigated it back in October and determined he had committed no crime. To add insult to injury, his first attorney dropped the case only hours before his case was to be called and informed him that he would not find representation anywhere in Delaware. A Houstonian by the name of Scott Covington, who himself has had run-ins with the law, most recently having to make 3/4 million dollars worth of restitution to prevent being brought up on fraud charges in connection with fraudulent piano sales through his piano business, had tipped the feds off that he would be there. How he was aware of this, or why he felt the need to tip the feds off is still a mystery. Covington's connection with this is really unclear and his involvement hints that there is yet anbother aspect of this that has not come to light yet. Sinclair was incarcerated in Delaware from June 18 to June 23. He claims that he was never mirandized, shown a warrant for his arrest, or given any indication as to why he was being arrested.

Now, I tend to believe that these sorts of allegations, when they keep coming up and keep being reinforced with other allegations and circumstances, tend to be true in some regard. Lying is one of those things that is difficult to maintain long term when someone is intentionally trying to expose the lie. Mistakes will be made and capitalized upon. Eventually the house of cards falls.

My takeaway from all this is that Obama is bisexual (which means that he is actually in a transition phase and has not personally accepted being gay, so he convinces himself he is still straight, despite engaging in gay sex.) and has had sexual relations with at least two, and possibly more, men. Someone has been killing these men to eliminate any possibility that Obama could be compromised or blackmailed. Now, were the deaths ordered by obama, that is an open question. Obama has been mixed up in Chicago mob politics for some time and is buddies with Rezko. It is entirely possible that the mob has decided that they have too much money and effort tied up in getting the first Chicago mob boss elected president to let allegations of gay sex and drugs derail things, so they have decided to eliminate the accusers, and Obama may merely be a figurehead, powerless to control the mob machine running his campaign, or maybe not. Maybe he really wants the power and will do anything to get it. At this point it's hard to tell who is really driving that bus that everybody has been thrown under, but it is getting mighty crowded under there.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; larrysinclair; obama; whokilleddonaldyoung
The saga continues....
1 posted on 07/09/2008 7:22:43 AM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

I would have thought that the Clintonistas would have run with this....or may yet?????


2 posted on 07/09/2008 7:42:24 AM PDT by FlashBack (www.proudpatriots.org/www.woundedwarriorproject.org/www.moveamericaforward.org)
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To: pissant

Excellent summary! BUMP!


3 posted on 07/09/2008 7:54:32 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: FlashBack
The Clinton's are not out of this yet. Hillary did what she had to do at this stage to pretend she supports the nominee. Bill, on the other hand, is being quite obvious in his disdain for the magic negro.

The super-delegates cannot be bound to their Obama commitment until the first vote in late August. If Obama stumbles, even a little bit, they can fly back to Hillary.

4 posted on 07/09/2008 8:10:12 AM PDT by DJtex
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To: pissant
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5 posted on 07/09/2008 8:23:58 AM PDT by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: FlashBack

No blue dress, no foul.


6 posted on 07/09/2008 8:49:16 AM PDT by y6162
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I would think, out of that entire congregation, not all of them would be accepting of such behavior, if it occurred, especially a choir director and 4th grade teacher? Maybe this is a myth I have made in my own mind, or a difference between the south and the north, but as a whole the black community isn’t overwhelmingly accepting of homosexuality...especially religious people. Though that gets back into the bizarreness of that particular church and how anyone who goes to it must be a bit different to stay.

I don’t know....I tend to agree if there was a smoking gun, HRC would have let it out by now. Obviously Sinclair doesn’t have the goods himself. It would probably take a relative or close intimate exposing it if it were true.


7 posted on 07/09/2008 9:09:23 AM PDT by Crimson Elephant
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To: pissant
The saga continues....

Drats, now he has the coveted gay vote.

8 posted on 07/09/2008 9:11:22 AM PDT by Bitsy
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To: pissant
Barack Hussein Obama on Homosexuality:

Being gay or lesbian is not a choice. (Nov 2007)

Decisions about marriage should be left to the states. (Oct 2007)

Homosexuality no more immoral than heterosexuality. (Oct 2007)

Ok to expose 6-year-olds to gay couples; they know already. (Sep 2007)

Has any marriage broken up because two gays hold hands? (Aug 2007)

We need strong civil unions, not just weak civil unions. (Aug 2007)

Legal rights for gays are conferred by state, not by church. (Aug 2007)

Disentangle gay rights from the word "marriage". (Aug 2007)

Gay marriage is less important that equal gay rights. (Aug 2007)

Gay rights movement is somewhat like civil rights movement. (Aug 2007)

Let each denominations decide on recognizing gay marriage. (Jul 2007)

Supports health benefits for gay civil partners. (Oct 2006)

Opposes gay marriage; supports civil union & gay equality. (Oct 2006)

Marriage not a human right; non-discrimination is. (Oct 2004)

Include sexual orientation in anti-discrimination laws. (Jul 1998)

9 posted on 07/09/2008 9:16:20 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

“I did not have sex with that man, Mr. Sinclair” (August 2008)


10 posted on 07/09/2008 9:17:42 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant
My takeaway from all this is that Obama is bisexual (which means that he is actually in a transition phase and has not personally accepted being gay, so he convinces himself he is still straight, despite engaging in gay sex.)

That isn't what bisexual means. It means a person enjoys being perverted with both sexes, not just their own.

11 posted on 07/09/2008 9:17:58 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: Bitsy
Drats, now he has the coveted gay vote.

Not to mention the crucial serial killer vote.

12 posted on 07/09/2008 9:18:46 AM PDT by marron
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To: MEGoody

Maybe he’s trisexual


13 posted on 07/09/2008 9:18:48 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Crimson Elephant
. . .but as a whole the black community isn’t overwhelmingly accepting of homosexuality...especially religious people.

Most black churches don't have banshees screaming from the stage "God ---- America" and blaming the government for AIDS. I'd say Obama's 'former' church probably embraces a lot of perversions that one wouldn't normally expect to be accepted by Christians.

14 posted on 07/09/2008 9:19:56 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: MEGoody

Very true, but I would even suspect, as large as Trinity is, that even a lot of those churchgoers would think a homosexual choir director who is also a 4th grade teacher is a bridge too far.

Of course, it could have been a well kept secret.


15 posted on 07/09/2008 9:32:28 AM PDT by Crimson Elephant
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To: pissant

For an Obama voter the Sinclair thing is a resume enhancement.

If Bill Clinton could be the first black president, there is no reason Obama shouldn’t be the first woman president.

(Lord, I apologize)


16 posted on 07/09/2008 9:42:30 AM PDT by marron
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To: pissant

Yes, the saga does continue. Have you been listening to the Jeff Rense and Roger Fredinburg programs and their coverage of this story? It is obvious that Larry Sinclair is not going away and continues to document things that are happening. Sure makes one wonder why the Obama campaign and the main stream media make no mention of the Sinclair “smears”.

The article you posted mentions a Kevin Clewer as another person who was murdered. I have not seen him mentioned before, have you?


17 posted on 07/10/2008 7:03:02 AM PDT by seekthetruth
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To: pissant
The bullshit continues...

Your article states that "Mr. Young was not the only gay black victim of murder in Chicago, There were two other gay men that were murdered within days of each other, Kevin Clewer, and Larry Bland. All three died within a 40 day period."

Kevin Clewer was white, from the North Side and was murdered on March 24, 2004.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=169291449

But, hey, facts never entered into your Sinclair threads so why start now.

18 posted on 07/10/2008 7:14:29 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: seekthetruth
The article you posted mentions a Kevin Clewer as another person who was murdered. I have not seen him mentioned before, have you?

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Clewer was killed four years ago and was white.

The bottom line is that Sinclair, in spite of all the assertions here, has never produced any genuine evidence. He is a con man. Guess what? Con men lie.

19 posted on 07/10/2008 7:19:41 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: wtc911

I just post ‘em. I don’t take any more responsibility for the mistakes in this article than the mistakes in all the anti-Obama ‘issue’ threads you’ve posted, assuming you’ve posted some.


20 posted on 07/10/2008 9:52:40 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: seekthetruth

No, I’ve never heard of Klewer before.


21 posted on 07/10/2008 9:53:46 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant
Translation...

Pissant continues to post that which he knows to be false as if it were fact...and runs from taking responsibility for it.

22 posted on 07/10/2008 10:05:55 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: wtc911

Oh I see how it works. If I post a thread I must vet every single statement that the author makes. But the thousands of other articles and blogs posted here have no such requirement that the poster verify the validity of all claims?

Is it only if the article is anti-Obama, or does this new rule apply to all topics?


23 posted on 07/10/2008 10:12:47 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Crimson Elephant

Sinclair on TALKSTARRADIO.COM NOW


24 posted on 07/10/2008 6:23:28 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: wtc911

Con men lie.


“I did not have sex with that woman Monica Lewinski”
- Presidents lie.

So what is your point?


25 posted on 07/10/2008 6:31:30 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: seekthetruth; pissant

Kevin Clewer.... no bells so far here.


26 posted on 07/10/2008 7:14:02 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: pissant

Maybe the Klewer guy is the Nathan guy.


27 posted on 07/10/2008 7:15:17 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: TomasUSMC
Con men lie.

“I did not have sex with that woman Monica Lewinski” - Presidents lie.

So what is your point?

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Simple, only fools believe a known habitual liar, whether he's a career criminal or a President...clear enough for you?

28 posted on 07/11/2008 4:41:03 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: txflake
These allegations are too important to accept at face value from either a career conman or an anonymous blogger.

Google Kevin Clewer...

The first page to list is his old my-space or facebook. It is now a site dedicated to finding the man who murdered him four years ago. The pictures of him show a white guy. There is zero connection to anything obama or sinclair.

Five minutes of research on Nathan show that he was gay and a member of tucc but that he died of natural causes after a long illness. This is old news.

Sinclair is a career criminal, a conman. He has zero credibility. He has provided zero genuine evidence to support any of his claims about obama.

Only a fool or a child believes anything a known career liar says.

If even the slightest bit of proof appears connecting Sinclair to obama or obama to any murder then I will lead the charge. But, since I am neither a fool nor a child, you will pardon me if I prefer to disbelieve what the conman says and do my own checking. You may of course choose to believe anything you want.

29 posted on 07/11/2008 5:20:16 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: FlashBack

Larry Sinclair is on live now on TalkStarRadio.com


30 posted on 07/15/2008 5:11:00 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: TomasUSMC

Missed the post...any updates on what was said??


31 posted on 07/16/2008 6:38:17 AM PDT by FlashBack (www.proudpatriots.org/www.woundedwarriorproject.org/www.moveamericaforward.org)
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