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Same-Gender 'Marriage' = Major Sin
Magic City Morning Star ^ | Grant Swank

Posted on 07/10/2008 6:29:16 AM PDT by johnstown

God set marriage as one man and one woman. That is God who defined marriage from the start in Eden.

When mankind changes that definition, God is angered.

Today's church is wanting in declaring the Bible's God as not only loving but capable of severe anger. The Bible is full of his love, full of his anger.

When America in any one location ratifies "marriage" as same-gender, that is a major sin. It will deal out major penalties from heaven's throne.

America is moving further and further away from biblical morality. Theologically liberal congregations and their clergy are aiding this transgression pull. These denominations are already paying with large membership deductions. Their attendance at worships is way below what they had when preaching the Bible.

The more America moves from biblically morality, the more it comes under the divine curse. The Bible states the blessings God will bring upon the obedient. It also states the curses God will bring upon the disobedient.

For instance, I believe there presently is a divine curse on the White House. Why? Because President George W. Bush placed the Koran in that house's library. The occasion was a much-celebrated Ramadan dinner where both Muslim males and females were guests.

With much fanfare Mr. Bush announced his placing the Koran in the White House library.

Taking biblical data into consideration, one can conclude that God was very angry at that move. I believe He has brought a curse the White House because of placing the Koran alongside the Bible in the White House library. God cannot tolerate those who place other gods alongside Him.

It was this same Mr. Bush who stated to a Muslim that all roads lead to God. Mr. Bush should know better than that, claiming to be a daily Bible reader.

America is in big trouble at the moment and I think only the truly sincere believers understand that. They are interceding for our nation. But the ungodly are pressing more and more for countenanced evil to be blessed throughout our country.

As this continues, the godly will note severe divine anger settled upon our domain - from shore to shore.

Read "Pro-homosexual denominations lose members" at http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/swank/080619


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KEYWORDS: bible; homosexualagenda; morethorazineplease; samegendermarriage

1 posted on 07/10/2008 6:29:17 AM PDT by johnstown
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To: johnstown
God set marriage as one man and at least one woman.

Corrected to correspond to the actual Biblical record.

2 posted on 07/10/2008 6:32:52 AM PDT by steve-b (The "intelligent design" hoax is not merely anti-science; it is anti-civilization. --John Derbyshire)
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To: johnstown

Welcome to FR.

You may want to dial back the blog promotion a bit. The management tends to take a dim view of folks whose primary reason for signing on here is to post stuff from one blog and comment on those posts exclusively.


3 posted on 07/10/2008 6:38:53 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (*******It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.******)
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To: johnstown

mankind is in for some heap big bunch of trouble.


4 posted on 07/10/2008 6:44:18 AM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: steve-b

The Bible also makes it clear that more than one wife is a route to immense trouble, and that one woman is His preference, because the requirements for being a bishop or overseer include being “the husband of only one wife.” Plus, Jesus said that “For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh” not “and be united to his wife or wives, and the at least two will become one flesh.”


5 posted on 07/10/2008 6:47:22 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (*******It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.******)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Magic City Morning Star is not a blog.


6 posted on 07/10/2008 6:49:24 AM PDT by johnstown
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To: Mr. Silverback

Also there are things depicted in the bible and not held up as a model or instruction but are evil things. There is polygamy and there is slavery depicted. Both are sins.


7 posted on 07/10/2008 6:50:43 AM PDT by Free Descendant
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To: johnstown
How's the services over at Westboro? Old Pehlps still preaching?
8 posted on 07/10/2008 6:51:40 AM PDT by mnehrling
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To: johnstown
Magic City Morning Star is not a blog.

Yes, but based on this Swank fella's mastery(sic) of the English language, he isn't a reporter.

9 posted on 07/10/2008 6:59:38 AM PDT by mnehrling
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To: johnstown
When America in any one location ratifies "marriage" as same-gender, that is a major sin.

Yep. But then, so is no fault divorce law.

10 posted on 07/10/2008 7:02:39 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: Mr. Silverback

People confuse what the bible “records” from what the bible “approves”.

Usually these are the people seeking something, anything, as an excuse for their choice of rejecting God.


11 posted on 07/10/2008 7:04:43 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: steve-b
Corrected to correspond to the actual Biblical record.

LOL You did the same thing the polygamists in the bible did. . .changed God's direction to suit your own purposes.

12 posted on 07/10/2008 7:05:39 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: MEGoody

You’re right there. God hates divorce.

Careful, though, some would use that as a distraction -

basically saying that since we aren’t actively fighting divorce, we shouldn’t fight same-sex “marriage”.

The leftists used the same tactic to oppose the war on terror - if you don’t attack all the dangerous countries in the world, you aren’t justified in attacking any.


13 posted on 07/10/2008 7:07:04 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: johnstown

Stop posting all of these depressing articles. I’m feeling that I live in Sodam and Gormorrah, and there isn’t hope.


14 posted on 07/10/2008 7:08:00 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: Coldwater Creek

Answer to your depression: Just don’t read these posts.


15 posted on 07/10/2008 7:11:58 AM PDT by johnstown
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To: Mr. Silverback; johnstown
Actually, I just checked and the source of the original article is a blog.
J. Grant Swank Jr. -- Read: http://jgrantswankjr.blogspot.com/

This may be on a newspaper's website, but many news papers allow so called op-eds to be posted on their site (I have a couple dozen or so on my local paper's site.)

16 posted on 07/10/2008 7:15:49 AM PDT by mnehrling
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To: johnstown

Why does God create people that He knows are going to be homosexuals?


17 posted on 07/10/2008 7:22:39 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: MrB
basically saying that since we aren’t actively fighting divorce, we shouldn’t fight same-sex “marriage”.

Yes, I know that homosexuals would say that. We (Christians as a whole) can fight both, but I know that each individual may not have the resources (i.e. time) to do so.

18 posted on 07/10/2008 7:23:02 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: johnstown
I think you (and everyone) should read this about Mr. Swank before posting any more of his articles.

ACD Discontinues Publication of J. Grant Swank’s columns

19 posted on 07/10/2008 7:27:44 AM PDT by mnehrling
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To: Free Descendant
There is polygamy and there is slavery depicted. Both are sins.

I think you are incorrect on both counts here. Jesus never said slavery was sinful. Indeed, the apostle Paul wrote, "Slaves, obey your masters...". As well, he did not denounce those who practiced polygamy, but urged them to accept one wife only.

20 posted on 07/10/2008 7:48:47 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Free Descendant; MrB

You both make excellent points.


21 posted on 07/10/2008 8:08:08 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (*******It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.******)
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To: MrB

“You’re right there. God hates divorce.
Careful, though, some would use that as a distraction -
basically saying that since we aren’t actively fighting divorce, we shouldn’t fight same-sex “marriage”.”

Why aren’t you actively fighting divorce?


22 posted on 07/10/2008 8:08:24 AM PDT by vanishing liberty
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To: vanishing liberty

I’m personally fighting for marriage, by making sure mine’s solid.


23 posted on 07/10/2008 8:14:00 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: MrB

“I’m personally fighting for marriage, by making sure mine’s solid.”

We should all do the same. But I think a mistake is being made in accepting divorce just because it has become so common in our society, because it is against the Bible, and as the article so rightly states:

“The more America moves from biblically morality, the more it comes under the divine curse. The Bible states the blessings God will bring upon the obedient. It also states the curses God will bring upon the disobedient.”


24 posted on 07/10/2008 8:24:27 AM PDT by vanishing liberty
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To: vanishing liberty

That most certainly applies to nations and individuals - both contexts are flat out stated in the Bible.

Whenever some topic showing the decline of America comes up in conversation, I mention A. Kennedy’s “evolving standards of decency in a maturing society”. This is especially nice if there is a lib involved in the discussion.


25 posted on 07/10/2008 8:28:25 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: stuartcr

Stuart, ask yourself for a moment if your question matters.

God, who knows all things, knew I was going to be a liar and a fornicator among other things, yet he created me. He knew that you would commit sins, yet he created you. So why does it matter whether he knew these people would have homosexual inclinations or not? They’re not special.


26 posted on 07/10/2008 8:31:25 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (*******It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.******)
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To: mnehrling; johnstown

Merci, mon frere.


27 posted on 07/10/2008 8:32:05 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (*******It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.******)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Check out #19.


28 posted on 07/10/2008 8:36:46 AM PDT by mnehrling
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To: Mr. Silverback

None of our questions/answers about God really matter, we can’t change the way things are anyway.

I ask these questions, because;
-1 it’s something I enjoy asking people about
-2 I believe that if God creates us knowing something will happen, then it must, regardless of the concept of free will. I find it interesting to see how people respond.


29 posted on 07/10/2008 8:37:41 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: mnehrling; johnstown
I think you (and everyone) should read this about Mr. Swank before posting any more of his articles.

It is true that America is headed for some harsh judgment if we don't change or ways. But it is also true that not every guy who hinks he's the 21st Century's answer to Jeremiah has his head on straight. I suspect that if you continue to post work by this non-prophet you will be zotted.

Just a friendly warning.

30 posted on 07/10/2008 8:45:58 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (*******It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.******)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Exactly. For full disclosure, it is important for folks to realize that while some of Swank’s articles are OK, many of them are ‘insane’ and he has been fired by a Conservative publication. It seems Swank was also a former FReeper who posted some nutty stuff a few years ago.

(see thread where others found who he was)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2043426/posts


31 posted on 07/10/2008 8:48:26 AM PDT by mnehrling
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To: stuartcr
None of our questions/answers about God really matter, we can’t change the way things are anyway.

Then why do anything?

32 posted on 07/10/2008 8:50:30 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (*******It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.******)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Then why do anything?

To paraphrase CS Lewis: Prayer doesn't change God, it changes ourselves.

33 posted on 07/10/2008 8:55:49 AM PDT by mnehrling
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To: 17th Miss Regt
If you're right, then why did Paul also write this?

We also know that law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious; for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, for adulterers and perverts, for slave traders and liars and perjurers—and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine that conforms to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, which he entrusted to me.--1 Timothy 1:9-11

That's a pretty hefty list he places the slave trade in. If God's word said "drive your car safely" and then said that car salesmen were like murderers, adulterers and perverts, what would you conclude is God's view of owning a car?

34 posted on 07/10/2008 8:58:10 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (*******It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.******)
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To: johnstown
God set marriage as one man and one woman.

That would certainly come as a surprise to the patriarchs of Israel.

35 posted on 07/10/2008 9:01:08 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Cut the birth certificate crap! It's the communism, stupid!)
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To: Jim Noble

See post 5 and the replies to it.


36 posted on 07/10/2008 9:04:17 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (*******It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.******)
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To: Mr. Silverback

I think we do things because that is the way He designed each of us. Whether what we do actually accomplishes anything or means anything after death, I do not know.


37 posted on 07/10/2008 9:08:07 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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