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Muslims, you Cannot Have it Both ways
Islam in Action ^ | July 11, 2008 | Christopher Logan

Posted on 07/14/2008 12:07:16 AM PDT by Islaminaction

We all see that people across the world are desperately clinging to the slim chance that "moderate" Islam will coming riding in on a white horse and end all the problems that the Islamic community is causing worldwide. But the truth is that "moderate" Islam has not come to the rescue for 1400 years. That is why we need to continue to speak up and force our governments to end Muslim immigration. Muslims cannot have it both ways, they get angry that we speak out against their religion and all the problems that it causes.

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TOPICS: Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: islam; radicalmuslims; sharia; waronterror

1 posted on 07/14/2008 12:07:16 AM PDT by Islaminaction
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To: Islaminaction

“But the truth is that “moderate” Islam has not come to the rescue for 1400 years.”

You are correctomundo - don’t expect moderates of any stripe to stick out their necks for anything!! It is the passionate people that cause changes, and they have plenty on their side.... when will our passions be awakened?

When will we say “ENOUGH is ENOUGH!!!!”?


2 posted on 07/14/2008 12:21:28 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: aquila48

When will we say “ENOUGH is ENOUGH!!!!”?”

I pray, BEFORE another 9/11 (or worse). Afterward may be too late.


3 posted on 07/14/2008 12:23:38 AM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: Islaminaction

> Muslims, you Cannot Have it Both ways

Unfortunately, they are proving that yes, they *can* have it both ways, and they are having it both ways, every day, in countries like Britain, France, Canada, Germany, Denmark, and increasingly in the United States.


4 posted on 07/14/2008 12:26:12 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: Islaminaction

Mecca is a MUSLIM-ONLY city in the Ialamic supremacist nation of Saudi Arabia, capital of the Islamic empire.

When “moderate” muslims condemn the segregationist and discriminatory practices of Saudi Arabia and urge for non-muslims be permitted to enter Mecca without being condemned to death, then I will believe that they are tolerant of ALL ideologies other than their own.

Until then they pose a fifth column subversive threat to the West to further the Islamic empire. Condemn the intolerance of Saudi Arabia or be lumped with it.


5 posted on 07/14/2008 12:29:03 AM PDT by weegee (Obama loves America like Bill loves Hillary.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

Yeah, they know there’s no downside if they want to sit on the fence and wait to congratulate the winner.


6 posted on 07/14/2008 12:38:41 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: BradyLS

> Yeah, they know there’s no downside if they want to sit on the fence and wait to congratulate the winner.

Proving that “do nothing” is often a brilliant strategy.

(BTW, thanks for your Service)


7 posted on 07/14/2008 12:43:17 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: Islaminaction

As both Bruce Thornton and Mark Steyn pointed out years ago, “moderate Islam” is heretic Islam.


8 posted on 07/14/2008 1:10:39 AM PDT by angkor (Conservatism is not now and never has been a religious movement.)
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To: Islaminaction

So if the wahabbis want to take everyone back to the technology and social strictures of Mad Mo, then why can they be using modern technology to do so?


9 posted on 07/14/2008 2:05:27 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Huma for co-president! (it ain't over 'til it's over))
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To: Islaminaction
Moderate Islam is a contradiction. The following article explains the goal of Islam.

Islamic Scholar Warns U.S. of 'Two-Faced' Muslims
10 posted on 07/14/2008 2:39:09 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: aquila48

I will give them credit for one thing, they push harder for what they want more then any other group out there.


11 posted on 07/14/2008 2:39:58 AM PDT by Islaminaction
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To: weegee

Point taken, you get it!!


12 posted on 07/14/2008 2:41:38 AM PDT by Islaminaction
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To: Man50D

Thanks for that article, I never saw that one.


13 posted on 07/14/2008 2:45:21 AM PDT by Islaminaction
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To: DieHard the Hunter

Trying my best to change that.


14 posted on 07/14/2008 2:45:53 AM PDT by Islaminaction
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To: Man50D

thanks for the link, interesting article


15 posted on 07/14/2008 3:12:18 AM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: Islaminaction

The thing is, we are supposed to treat every Muslim as if they were a moderate Muslim, but they can act any old way they want.


16 posted on 07/14/2008 3:25:37 AM PDT by autumnraine
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To: Islaminaction

> Trying my best to change that.

Enjoyed your article BTW. Good contribution. Do you have a ping list?


17 posted on 07/14/2008 4:01:38 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: Islaminaction
The following is adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond’s book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat:

Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system. Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components. The religious component is a beard for all the other components. Islamization occurs when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their so-called ‘religious rights'.

When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agree to ‘the reasonable’ Muslim demands for their ‘religious rights,’ they also get the other components under the table. Here’s how it works (percentages source CIA: The World Fact Book (2007)).

As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness:

Nation % Muslim
United States 1.0%
Australia 1.5%
Italy 1.5%
Norway 1.8%
Canada 1.9%
China 2.0%



At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs:

Nation % Muslim
Denmark 2.0%
United Kingdom 2.7%
Germany 3.7%
Spain 4.0%
Thailand 4.6%



From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. (United States).

Nation % Muslim
Switzerland 4.3%
Philippines 5.0%
Sweden 5.0%
The Netherlands 5.5%
Trinida and Tabago 5.8%
France 8.0%



At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world. When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions (Paris –car-burnings). Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats (Amsterdam - Mohammed cartoons).

Nation % Muslim
Guyana 10.0%
India 13.4%
Israel 16.0%
Kenya 10.0%
Russia 15.0%



After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:

Nation % Muslim
Ethiopia 32.8%



At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:

Nation % Muslim
Bosnia 40.0%
Chad 50.1%
Lebanon 59.7%



From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:

Nation % Muslim
Albania 70.0%
Malaysia 60.4%
Qatar 77.5%
Sudan 70.0%



After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:

Nation % Muslim
Bangladesh 83.0%
Egypt 90.0%
Gaza 98.7%
Indonesia 86.1%
Iran 98.0%
Iraq 97.0%
Jordan 92.0%
Morocco 98.7%
Pakistan 97.0%
Syria 90.0%
Tajikistan 90.0%
Turkey 99.8%
United Arab Emirates 96.0%



100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace — there’s supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim:

Nation % Muslim
Yemen 99.9%
Afghanistan 100.0%
Saudi Arabia 100.0%
Somalia 100.0%




Of course, that’s not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons.

"Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; and the tribe against the world and all of us against the infidel."

– Leon Uris, ‘The Haj’.


It is good to remember that in many, many countries, such as France, the Muslim populations are centered around ghettos based on their ethnicity. Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. Therefore, they exercise more power than their national average would indicate.


18 posted on 07/14/2008 4:16:43 AM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: Islaminaction
Moderate Muslims are like the moderate Hell's Angels, who are just friendly motorcycle enthusiasts.

The problem is that what they call “moderate” is better described as “non-devout”. The can't change Islam, because they aren't really involved with it. Its like the NYT constantly hoping that the twice-a-year pro-abortion Catholics will reform the Church.

19 posted on 07/14/2008 5:08:06 AM PDT by SampleMan (We are a free and industrious people, socialist nannies do not become us.)
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To: Islaminaction

Yes, they are the ultimate squeaky wheel!


20 posted on 07/14/2008 9:16:33 AM PDT by aquila48
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