Posted on 07/18/2008 5:48:30 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
My advice to DUmmies upset over any position that Barack Obama takes is to wait a minute and he is almost sure to completely change that position. Most politicians do shift positions when it is convenient but none in my memory has ever shifted position so boldly and so quickly as Obama has for strictly pandering electoral reasons. Obama will say anything that he thinks will get him votes and then ditch that position when it becomes convenient to do so. Gun control, FISA, public campaign financing, Iraq (still flipping and flopping on that one), and a whole host of other policies. Therefore it is quite amusing to see the DUmmies debate what Obama really means concerning Venezuela and Hugo Chavez as you can see by two contrary DUmmie threads. THREAD #1 is titled "Obama Calls Hugo Chavez Enemy Of U.S. Urges Sanctions Against Venezuela!" and THREAD #2 is titled "Obama DOESNT call Hugo Chavez Enemy Of U.S. NOR does he Urge Sanctions Against Venezuela!!!" So let us now watch the DUmmies debate Obama's Flip vs Obama's Flop in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, noting that the Obamassiah is taking pandering for votes to a whole new level, is in the [barackets]:
Obama Calls Hugo Chavez Enemy Of U.S. Urges Sanctions Against Venezuela!
[Until a minute later when Obama DOESN'T call Hugo Chavez Enemy Of U.S. NOR does he Urge Sanctions Against Venezuela!]
Yahoo News
Reuters
July 16, 2008
CARACAS (Reuters) - Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez said on Wednesday his prickly relations with Washington would not improve even if Democrat candidate Barack Obama wins the U.S. presidential election in November.
"The two candidates for the U.S. presidency attack us equally, they attack us defending the interests of the empire," Chavez said at a meeting of his socialist party.
Obama said earlier in his campaign that he would be prepared to sit down to talk with Chavez. But in recent weeks he has called the leftist Venezuelan leader an enemy of the United States and urged sanctions against him.
Chavez also had previously expressed a hope that the end of the Bush administration would bring warmer ties between the two countries.
[Anybody else out there think this sounds just a little bit too convenient. Most likely some Democrats got the word to Chavez not to sound so friendly to Obama...por ahora! Then after the election they can embrace. However, the DUmmies are too dim to figure that out as you can see...]
Is this true? I really hope not. We don't need anymore movements toward "the center" by Obama.
[Don't worry about BM (Barack Movements). Anything Obama says now is completely meaningless since he is strictly pandering for votes. However it is FUnnie to watch you DUmmies have a fit over this.]
move to the center expected, but damn WHIPLASH. So much for heating oil help for the poor. Will this end Citgo's low income heating oil program? you bet. *Obama, you're winning. Stop running to the center
[Posted the clueless DUmmie who takes Obama's words seriously.]
The article claims Obama has already called Chavez an enemy of the US. No ifs there.
[Don't worry. Obama can always find an out.]
I think Chavez may be very disappointed in Obama and now feels that a change in Presidents won't signify a significant and progressive a change in American policy toward Venezuela.
[I think Chavez is laughing at your utter cluelessness right now.]
My guess is Chavez will be asking for a meeting as soon as Obama takes office. The name calling will end and diplomacy will begin.
[Mainly because the so-called name calling was entirely staged to help Obama.]
Do you think this is just posturing on boths sides? It's possible. maybe even politically necessary?
[A Kewpie Doll to a DUmmie who stumbles onto the truth.]
Not only that I think Obama benefits from Chavez saying he's no different than McTaint. Now these asshole right wingers can't come out and say that Chavez and Obama are best friends. Which is good for domestic consumption.
[Thanx for that admission that this was all STAGE for domestic consumption to fool the yahoos.]
I remember reading once that Chavez said he wouldn't want to show support for particular US candidates he liked because it would be used against them. I mean in this case I have no idea and talking out of my ass. But he's a pretty astute guy politically.
[Just for public consumption. Wink! Wink!]
I remember that, too. Yeah, he's no dummie.
[More than enough DUmmies to go around on this thread.]
Did you miss all the IF's in Obama's statement?
[Also all the "ands, or, buts."]
Obama knows for a fact that Venezuela and Chavez are not "fermenting terrorist activities" so why did he even suggest this might be happening to a meeting of the right-wing Cuban-American National Foundation?
[V_O_T_E_S]
Unless Obama is completely uninformed about Venezuela and actually believes right-wing anti-Venezuela propaganda I don't think for a moment that Obama actually believes that Venezuela and Chavez are supporting terrorist activities. Do you think that Obama really believes that neo-con right-wing propaganda? I don't.
[Strictly a matter of pandering for VOTES.]
It's hot air that benefits both Chavez and Obama. Makes Obama seem 'safe' and 'pro-America' while allowing Chavez to continue his pose of anti-US imperialism while selling us oil.
[Wink! Wink! This is all strictly for public consumption by the yahoos. Wink! Wink!]
Six months ago Chavez was ranting about how he was looking forward to meeting with Obama, what happened?
[Democrats became worried that it would hurt Obama politically so that meeting has been put on hold...por ahora! And now we move to seemingly contradictory DUmmie THREAD #2...]
Obama DOESNT call Hugo Chavez Enemy Of U.S. NOR does he Urge Sanctions Against Venezuela!!!
[It DOESN'T matter what Obama says. It's all about pandering for votes. Wink! Wink!]
But amazingly because some two bit reporter wanted to invent a "flip flop" story instead of actually do real journalistic work...it's being reported as such. And interestingly enough... people on DU are "concerned" with this non existent move to the center... Some are just "outraged" by this non move by the Obama campaign. Let's keep right wing smears out of DU... closet PUMAs please try to at least provide proof benind your fauxrage.
[A clueless DUmmie gets all upset over what Obama supposedly said...as if it can't be completely reversed when convenient.]
The republicans are waging two fronts in smearing.... the Panther-ish bomb thrower is to keep republicans voting and the "he's a big flip flopping elitist" smear is to confuse the ignorant, uninformed, pay-attention-for-one-week-every-for-years, independent voters. They are saying that Obama is a covert commie-muslim who is "pretending" to move to the center...thus making him an flip flopping terrorist black separatist.
[GASP! You mean there are people out there actually accusing Obama of flip flopping? How dare they!!!]
The progressive movement is going to have to keep the pressure on President Obama to gut free trade and create a fair trade system.
[aka socialism.]
Some people will use anything to smear Obama. They're not concerned with 'facts'
[Would you mind telling us the "fact" about Obama's latest stance on FISA? Oh, and don't worry about Obama's position on Venezuela and Hugo Chavez. That is strictly fo public consumption and will change as fast as his FISA stand. Wink! Wink!]
PING!
top 5
4!!
Top 10?
5
Top ten after reading. Whodathunkit.
Top 10?
top 10!
Top whatever.
I.e., the ignorant masses as opposed to the DUmmie elites.
"in this case"? I think you're underestimating your lack of ideas.
talking out of my ass.
Benburch will be there to listen.
[Until a minute later when Obama DOESN'T call Hugo Chavez Enemy Of U.S. NOR does he Urge Sanctions Against Venezuela!]
Obama Calls Hugo Chavez Enemy! DUmmies' heads exploding everywhere.
[Don't worry about BM (Barack Movements). Anything Obama says now is completely meaningless since he is strictly pandering for votes. However it is FUnnie to watch you DUmmies have a fit over this.]
The only movement DUmmies will have is the same kind I have daily when I sit on the white throne.
[Also all the "ands, or, buts."]
Did this DUmmie miss all the uh.... and uh.... and uh....... uhs.............. too?
[A clueless DUmmie gets all upset over what Obama supposedly said...as if it can't be completely reversed when convenient.]
So DUmmie. A flip flop is now considered a "non move"? I'd say it is more a move left and then right.
[Would you mind telling us the "fact" about Obama's latest stance on FISA? Oh, and don't worry about Obama's position on Venezuela and Hugo Chavez. That is strictly fo public consumption and will change as fast as his FISA stand. Wink! Wink!]
Yes DUmmie. I am concerened about the "FACTS" about BO.
How about the FACT that BO sat in the rev wrong's church for 20+ years but never heard any sermons.
What about the FACT that BO has a total of 143 days experience.
What about the FACT that BO is the most liberal senator in the senate.
What about the FACT that he was brought up in learning islam.
I could go on DUmmie, but I don't have 24 hours to sit here and type.
Top 15?
The republicans are waging two fronts in smearing.....They are saying that Obama is a covert commie-muslim who is "pretending" to move to the center...thus making him an flip flopping terrorist black separatist.I never said he was a Muslim. Covert or otherwise.
You know, I see Doug’s ex-wife made a cameo appearance; she must be slipping.
Doug’s ex-wife is a vociferous supporter of Yugo, and she got to every bonfire involving the issue on Skins’s island.
By the way, while I was otherwise preoccupied right after the 4th of July, Doug’s ex-wife was speading TomInTib tales about the exploits of her “grandparents” during obscure guerrilla wars in central America during the 1930s.
Doug’s ex-wife can tell some pretty good stories if she puts her mind to it.
You say "fermenting" and I say "fomenting", let's call the whole thing off!
I'd like to know what they're "fermenting" over there in DUmmieLand.
THIS COULD BE HUGO!
Hugo suddenly becomes an enemy roughly around the time when Barry wraps up the Dem nom and starts aiming for the general election. Hmmm, any linkage, ya think?
"This is not the Hugo Chavez I knew."
Obama keeps going barack and forth, barack and forth. . . .
Obama is a regular Snidely Whiplash:
Is that a Newport he’s sucking on?
And the important thing, of course, is to keep Chavez satisfied. Above all, we want to look good in the eyes of the world community, right? We MUST look progressive and enlightened!
As if we ARW's were as stoopid as you ALW's. Don't worry, nobody on FR or any other RWA gathering place is the least bit fooled by He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Middle-Named's latest, momentary "position." The Obama camp appears not to be aware that most swing-voters (read: useless morons who watch a CBS Newsbreak once or twice a month) don't even know who Hugo Chavez is, so the image of Chavez putting his arm around Obama hurts him a lot less with these idiots than the flip-flopper label does.
Keep on shiftin' Barry! We need more YouTube footage...
Don't worry, as soon as Obama takes office, Hugo will be at the White House, joining Barry and Michelle in burning U.S. flags in the fireplace.
Heck, Barry may name him Secretary of Energy.
No problem. We've still got Wright, Rezko, Pfleger, and Ayers to work with.
Oh, I don't think that's true! I think you have no idea and talk out your ass in most EVERY case.
He must be a KOmmie then.
Did you miss all the BS in B.O.'s statement?
Goodness knows, we wouldn't want Obama actually to BE "safe" and "pro-America."
Six months ago, Obama was being his normal leftist self, trying to win the Democrat nomination. Now he's trying to win the general election, so he's got to act like an American for a few months.
WHIPLASH!
Depends which side of his mouth Barry is talking out of at the moment.
He was, but he's just flipped again.
He's certainly no William Rivers Pitt, is he?
Are you suggesting there are "concern trolls" roaming DUmmieland?
What is a "closet PUMA"? "Pain Up My @$$"? "Posting Under Much Anger"?
Well, this is a new term for me. So I just did a little googling and found out "PUMA" is a big topic in DUmmieland. I THINK it means "Party Unity My @$$." I think it refers to disgruntled Dems who haven't bowed down to Obamassiah.
He's "covert," alright, as in "magazine covert":
SENATOR Obama. He'll still have a couple years left on his term as senator after he loses this November.
Maybe he'll even show up and do some senating once in a while.
ANYTHING, like his RECORD, his own WORDS. . . .
I ate dog meat when I was in Korea 20 years ago. Not great, but not terrible either. I still prefer bratwurst.
Which reminds me, the wife did not have time last night to grill up the Johnsonvilles I thawed out yesterday. But it is my full expectation that the brats WILL be on the menu for TONIGHT! Yum!
Charles, Charles, Charles. Grilling brats is man's domain. The pre-boiling in beer (while having one). The grilling over a decent flame (while having one). The satisfaction of a brat cooked to the precise temperature (while popping open another). Man was made for such satisfying labor.
My wife LIKES to grill. And she knows how to run this gas-powered doohickey we have. However, I just talked to her on the phone and she said that since the temperature is so high and the air quality is so bad (she has mild asthma), she may not grill until later—or even not tonight at all. Sooo, your challenge to my manhood gets me thinking: I may ask her to SHOW ME how to run this gas-powered doohickey, and then I can grill the brats myself.
That doohickey is one of the wonders of the modern age. No more fooling with matches and that dirty ol’ charcoal. The downside is it doesn’t have quite the flavor of charcoal. But...
You’ll be grilling in no time at all. Just don’t go off the deep end. We still need your pastoral direction. And while typing this, Julie brought in some tuna salad we’re having for dinner. No, not grilled, but good anyway. Salute!
That isn't exactly comforting, but it's better than him "presidenting" once in a while.
Whatchu talkin bout foo!
We go out to the patio. Open lid. Turn valve on gas tank. Turn knob for burner. Press ignition button. We do all that. No flame. We are . . . out of gas.
Pizza tonight. Brats tomorrow.
Working on margarita recipe right now. Experimenting with proportions of tequila and triple sec. Using fresh-squeezed key lime juice. About to taste. . . .
Pretty good. OK, guys, what kinds of tequila and triple sec (or other liqueur), and in what proportions (and proof) do you recommend for a great margarita?
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