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Meet The Dan Rathers Of The Right - The Cult Of The COLB (AJStrata continues march to irrelavancy)
Strata-Sphere ^ | 7/28/08 | AJStrata

Posted on 07/28/2008 1:26:05 PM PDT by pissant

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To: pissant
Check out how this CULT leader detects forgery when confronted with solid proof of legitimacy.

"Solid proof of legitimacy" would be exposing the certificate number and verifying that it is on file in Hawaii, with matching information. Anything short of that is playing with web facsimiles of parts of documents.

-PJ

21 posted on 07/28/2008 5:46:57 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Obama "citizen of the world" is the 2008 version of Kerry's "global test.")
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To: Political Junkie Too

Not only that, he completely glosses over Polarik’s fine work and HOW he used that image to prove his point that it is a forgery. Complete and utter fraud on AJ’s part.


22 posted on 07/28/2008 5:53:08 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant
Polarik, once again AJStrata gives a very weak defense of Obama’s COLB. But he does manage to insult you in the process.

Well, that's about the only thing he is gooat -- talking smak -- which is what I posted about him.

I added quite a bit of additional explanation and a crucial piece of evidence to my De-Kos-Ta proof that neither AJ, nor Koyaan can countermand.

As it turtns out, Koyaan, another critic of mine provided the last bit of evidence for the use of the DeCosta COLB. I love it when my critics provide the evidence in favor of my findings that they thought would negate them.

23 posted on 07/29/2008 10:40:41 AM PDT by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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To: pissant
If what I had before was a "smoking gun," then thanks to Koyaan, I got a "smoking RPG."

Koyaan was trumpeting the Kos COLB as the real deal, just like AJ and his packrats, but unlike them, at least he had some images to show for his work (not that they meant anything)

Anyway, he compares an image overlay of Michele's COLB to the Kos COLB, and proclaims, "the aspect ratio on the Michele COLB is messed up. Since I got this of of Polarik's posting, he must have done something to it."

Ah, but now I that bet he wishes he didn't say it.

The comment caused me to do my own checking of the aspect ratio (the raio of height compared to width) of the Kos image, Michele's image, and DeCosta image.

The aspect ratio of the Kos image is different from that of Michele's COLB, as Koyaan noted, but the aspect ratio of te Kos image is identical to the DeCosta image.

Why is this now significant?

Because the reason why the DeCosta image has a different aspect ratio, is because of the two massive folds present in the paper document. These two big folds caused the paper to be "scrunched down," making it impssible from copying the full length of the paper document.

To put it another way, the two folds caused the HEIGHT of the image to be SHORTER than it really is.

AND...

Since we know that the Kos image only has ONE THIN FOLD in the entire image, AND...

if the Kos image was a real copy, then it should have produced an image close to its full height.

HOWEVER, the almost, if not totally, flat Kos image is exactly the same height as the "scrunched down" DeCosta image.

And, the odds of that happening are NILL!!!!

24 posted on 07/29/2008 10:59:08 AM PDT by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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To: Polarik

Nil is right.

Well, how do we get Malkin/Coulter/Rush/Hannity/Nat. review/Human events etc to run with this story?


25 posted on 07/29/2008 11:13:00 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: x
>i> It seems to me that if Obama’s mother was American, he’s American, no matter where born. What is the supposition to the contrary?

According to the law of the day, if Obama were born abroad with a foreign father, his mother would have had to have lived for at least five years in the US after the age of 16. So she would have had to be at least 21 for her son to automatically be born a citizen, and she was only 18 when he was born.

Actually, I also thought that was the case, but a further check of immigrations rules shows that all Obama's Mother has to do is live in Hawaii for one continuous year (any year) for OBama to have been a citizen by birth.

However, even if Obama's mother had never lived in the US at any time before his birth, Obama acquires derivative US citizenship when his mother lives with him in Hawaii.

26 posted on 07/29/2008 12:11:45 PM PDT by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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To: pissant
Well, how do we get Malkin/Coulter/Rush/Hannity/Nat. review/Human events etc to run with this story? >p? mass emails.
27 posted on 07/29/2008 12:15:18 PM PDT by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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To: Polarik

I’m curious; is the notary seal on the KOS certificate in the exact same spot as on the DeCosta certificate? What are the chances of that randomly happeining?


28 posted on 07/29/2008 12:37:33 PM PDT by jellybean (Write in Fred! - Proud Ann-droid and a Steyn-aholic)
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To: jellybean
I’m curious; is the notary seal on the KOS certificate in the exact same spot as on the DeCosta certificate? What are the chances of that randomly happening?

Like others who had seen hte Kos image, I, too, questioned its lack of an embossed (and inked) seal, and the lack of a signature block -- two, very prominent features on the DeCosta image. However, my assertions about the Kos image being a forgery did not hinge on the presence or absence of these features. Since I always maintained that the forger had to have used a genuine copy of a COLB for the basis of the forgery, any other features that a genuine COLB should have would be present on the forgery as well.

In other words, I was not surprised, and my theory was not impacted, when these features were revealed later on through image enhancements.

In the instance of making the Kos forgery, I had already determined that it was based on one or two real cOLB images. I also reasoned that the forger would NOT want to duplicate the size and position of the seal and signature stamps on the DeCosta image because no two of these are ever alike, and duplicating them would be a dead giveaway that a forgery had taken place.

So, the presence of a seal, "hidden" or otherwise, that was not the same size and not in the same position as the DeCosta image turned out to be the conssequence of copying the background from a second COLB, as I surmised.

29 posted on 07/29/2008 2:03:26 PM PDT by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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To: lesser_satan; WOSG

There was someone who posted a blank with the same time of birth before this one showed up, I believe.


30 posted on 07/29/2008 6:07:21 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: pissant

That does not change the FACT that the COLB is a forgery. We will see to it that he is held responsible for posting the forgery, and for having his spokesretard claim its legitimacy.
***If the MSM doesn’t pick up this story and start hammering away, the most we could hope for is that Obamassiah throws one of his staffers under the bus with Kos. Just another day in the office for Hussein.

The alternative is that as many of us as possible start filing suits in our own states claiming that he isn’t eligible to be put on the ballot. It only takes one state to make the difference — the smaller states would have faster moving court systems. I’m thinking some place like Nevada or Wyoming, basically pubbie country.


31 posted on 07/29/2008 6:12:12 PM PDT by Kevmo (A person's a person, no matter how small. ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kevmo

Someone is filing a lawsuit against Mccain claiming ineligibility. Time to go after the Obamunist.


32 posted on 07/29/2008 6:16:47 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

I totally agree.


33 posted on 07/29/2008 6:30:16 PM PDT by Kevmo (A person's a person, no matter how small. ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Gondring

You believe incorrect. The blank and the other modified ones came after. That was the original source of confusion and reason for calling it a forgery. Those original claims were disproven.


34 posted on 07/29/2008 10:14:32 PM PDT by WOSG (http://no-bama.blogspot.com/ - NObama, stop the Hype and Chains candidate)
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To: pissant

We should be obsessing about stuff like this:http://www.thenextright.com/jeff-roberts/a-seat-we-can-win-in-arizona


35 posted on 07/29/2008 10:15:25 PM PDT by WOSG (http://no-bama.blogspot.com/ - NObama, stop the Hype and Chains candidate)
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To: WOSG

You are free to obsess about anything you wish. Myself, I obsess over nothing. I post what either interests me or entertains me.


36 posted on 07/29/2008 10:17:12 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Polarik

The COLB image at the top of the thread isn’t loading for me anymore. Is anyone else having trouble? Has Snapped Shot taken it down? Here’s the link: http://www.snappedshot.com/uploads/birth-certificate-throbber.gif


37 posted on 07/29/2008 11:10:06 PM PDT by jellybean (Write in Fred! - Proud Ann-droid and a Steyn-aholic)
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To: WOSG

Please show me where. Thanks!


38 posted on 07/30/2008 12:00:20 AM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Polarik; pissant

Um, no.
Step one is say things that are truthful and verifiable.
The world will listen if you have the truth on your side.


39 posted on 07/30/2008 6:34:47 AM PDT by WOSG (http://no-bama.blogspot.com/ - NObama, stop the Hype and Chains candidate)
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To: pissant

“I obsess over nothing.”
That’s not the impression you give when you post threads like this.


40 posted on 07/30/2008 6:36:24 AM PDT by WOSG (http://no-bama.blogspot.com/ - NObama, stop the Hype and Chains candidate)
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