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Maryland College Bans Smoking OUTSIDE
The Patriot Room ^ | August 2, 2008 | Bill Dupray

Posted on 08/02/2008 4:28:08 PM PDT by Bill Dupray

Reactions from smokers ranged from stunned to furious -- and often unprintable.

"Outside?" gasped Isaac Kim, who's about to start pre-pharmacy classes at the Silver Spring/Takoma Park campus. "Do they have the right to do that?"

Welcome to the land of tolerance and freedom Mr. Kim. Your rights will be dictated to you in the Citizens Manual. Should you stray, they have a special police force to enforce your right not to smoke or chew tobacco. See if you can pick out the innocent-sounding, Stalinist name for the anti-smoking cops.

And yes, employees could ultimately be fired or students kicked out if they kept ignoring the rule.

Temporary employees -- "healthy campus advocates" -- are being hired to wander about and remind people of the new rule. "They're being trained to do this with calmness and a sense of humor," Ackerman said.

Some students predicted that they won't be laughing. (More colorful, yet unprintable, comments here.)

The death of freedom by a thousand cuts.

(Excerpt) Read more at patriotroom.com ...


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: academia; highereducation; montgomerycollege; nannystate; outdoors; pufflist; smoking; smokingbans; tobacco

1 posted on 08/02/2008 4:28:09 PM PDT by Bill Dupray
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To: Bill Dupray

Why don’t they just cut to the chase, and outlaw the stuff?

Although I guess if they did, all of their plans for taxes and tobacco settlement money would go up in smoke.


2 posted on 08/02/2008 4:32:11 PM PDT by I_Like_Spam
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To: Bill Dupray

A manufacturing plant here ruled you couldn’t smoke on their property, even in your vehicle and you couldn’t leave and come back to the premises once clocking in until your shift was over or you had permission to go home for the day.

They claimed it was to make health insurance cheaper.


3 posted on 08/02/2008 4:43:27 PM PDT by autumnraine
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To: Bill Dupray

I’d organize the smokers into a pork & beans brigade with t-shirts that read “How do you like us now?”


4 posted on 08/02/2008 4:47:39 PM PDT by vietvet67
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To: Bill Dupray
Those Nazi pricks. I attended classes on that campus. I'm burning my damned alumni card.


5 posted on 08/02/2008 4:48:15 PM PDT by Viking2002 (Barak Obama is as inept as a bear cub with his dink.)
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To: Bill Dupray

The Third Reich has reawakened in America of all places! Sieg Heil!!!


6 posted on 08/02/2008 5:01:38 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (He's Obama not Denzel. This is reality not a movie! Think before you vote!)
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To: autumnraine
That campus is tiny. Onstreet parking. Just burn one while standing on the sidewalk, and blow the smoke six feet onto campus property. Takoma Park is one on the most hippy-dippy nests of far-Left activists on this side of San Francisco. Trust me - I ran the gauntlet there for quite a few years.


7 posted on 08/02/2008 5:02:33 PM PDT by Viking2002 (Barak Obama is as inept as a bear cub with his dink.)
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To: Bill Dupray
Bet smoking a joint is okay -ah for “medical reasons”.
8 posted on 08/02/2008 5:30:00 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Bill Dupray
An interesting article in Reason magazine from 1994: Put That in Your Pipe

As an act of rebellion against political correctness, pipe smoking is hard to beat.

The end of the last century saw the birth of two Germans who are among the most famous individuals in history: Adolf Hitler, the bloodthirsty dictator, and Albert Einstein, the peace-loving scientific genius. Both men held strong views about smoking, and it is worth examining their opinions as we approach the end of the current century. This is especially true in light of the bills pending in Congress that would ban smoking in buildings open to the public, raise tobacco taxes by huge percentages, and regulate tobacco as a drug.

Hitler was a zealot about many things, so it is not surprising that he was an extremist on the subject of smoking, which he considered vile and disgusting. "Adolf Hitler was a fanatical opponent of tobacco," reports Time. He was fond of proclaiming that women of the Third Reich did not smoke at all, even though many of them did. In his fascinating book Cigarettes Are Sublime, Richard Klein, a professor of French at Cornell University, writes that Hitler was "a fanatically superstitious hater of tobacco smoke."

Einstein, on the other hand, was very passionate about his pipe smoking. During one lecture, he ran out of pipe tobacco and borrowed some cigarettes from his students so he could crumple the tobacco into his pipe. "Gentlemen," he said, "I believe we've made a great discovery!" He later decided that his conclusion was premature. He realized that cigarette tobacco lacks the aroma, the fullness, and the taste of pipe tobacco. But what appealed most to Einstein was the entire ritual of pipe smoking: carefully choosing from a variety of pipes and tobaccos, delicately loading the briar, puffing and tamping, and the associated contemplation. "I believe that pipe smoking contributes to a somewhat calm and objective judgment in all human affairs," he said in 1950 at age 71, when he became a lifetime member of the Montreal Pipe Smokers Club.

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9 posted on 08/02/2008 5:30:13 PM PDT by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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To: Bill Dupray; Just another Joe; CSM; lockjaw02; Publius6961; elkfersupper; nopardons; metesky; ...

Nanny State Ping.


10 posted on 08/02/2008 5:39:40 PM PDT by Gabz (You said WHAT?????????)
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To: Viking2002

In our own homes is next...I’m sure it will be “for the children”. These control freaks are dangerous.


11 posted on 08/02/2008 5:39:53 PM PDT by coolbreeze (giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teen-age boys.)
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To: Reeses
I feel the same way about cigars as Einstein felt of pipes, although, at this establishment, cigar smoking is permitted only outdoors.

There are some authorities that I just don't argue with, though I love her just the same.

12 posted on 08/02/2008 5:54:05 PM PDT by HoosierHawk
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To: Gabz

Is anyone starting to get worn out by these controllers?


13 posted on 08/02/2008 5:58:14 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: Viking2002
Takoma Park is one on the most hippy-dippy nests of far-Left activists on this side of San Francisco. Trust me - I ran the gauntlet there for quite a few years.

Also knowing the place I'll second that. Also it just happens to be trashy, dirty, and crime haven.

Funny, the associations one encounters in the real world.

14 posted on 08/02/2008 6:05:53 PM PDT by jnsun (The LEFT: The need to manipulate others because of nothing productive to offer)
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To: jnsun
Takoma Park is one on the most hippy-dippy nests of far-Left activists on this side of San Francisco.

Home of Matt Drudge.
15 posted on 08/02/2008 6:09:19 PM PDT by Vision (The light of the body is the eye, if your eye is true all your body will be full of light. Matt 6:22)
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To: Reeses
But what appealed most to Einstein was the entire ritual of pipe smoking: carefully choosing from a variety of pipes and tobaccos, delicately loading the briar, puffing and tamping, and the associated contemplation. "I believe that pipe smoking contributes to a somewhat calm and objective judgment in all human affairs," he said


I am a proud pipe smoker!

16 posted on 08/02/2008 6:09:36 PM PDT by Old Sarge (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: GOP_Lady

Unfortunately they seem to breeding like rabbits.


17 posted on 08/02/2008 6:11:06 PM PDT by Gabz (You said WHAT?????????)
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To: Old Sarge

My husband has the most wonderful smelling cherry pipe tobacco. In fact, an elderly lady approached him and told him the same. :-)


18 posted on 08/02/2008 6:13:03 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: Gabz

Indeed, just like the ones in my yard. :-) Too bad they’re not as cute as the rabbits though, huh? :-)


19 posted on 08/02/2008 6:14:00 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: Old Sarge
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO US AND YOUR COUNTRY!
20 posted on 08/02/2008 6:15:34 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: Old Sarge

Sarge, where does one buy a proud pipe?


21 posted on 08/02/2008 6:17:33 PM PDT by purpleraine
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To: Bill Dupray
Right back at you, controllers!


22 posted on 08/02/2008 6:18:09 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: purpleraine

One has it sent to the war zone by one’s mother, and smokes it in her memory.


23 posted on 08/02/2008 6:21:59 PM PDT by Old Sarge (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: Old Sarge

Of course. Best wishes!


24 posted on 08/02/2008 6:22:31 PM PDT by purpleraine
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To: GOP_Lady

You’re worth it, madam.


25 posted on 08/02/2008 6:22:31 PM PDT by Old Sarge (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: Old Sarge
I am a proud pipe smoker!

Me too, I'm puffing right now. It's one of my very favorite things. Damn cigarette smokers are ruining it for everyone with their littering and druggie-like behaviors.

Albert Einstein:


26 posted on 08/02/2008 6:26:40 PM PDT by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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To: Reeses
Damn cigarette smokers are ruining it for everyone with their littering and druggie-like behaviors.

Lovely attitude you've got there.

27 posted on 08/02/2008 6:28:27 PM PDT by Gabz (You said WHAT?????????)
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To: Gabz

Soon just thinking about smoking will be against the law. I frequently put an unlit cigarette in my mouth in a no smoking area just to watch people freak out. I have become a militant in my old age.


28 posted on 08/02/2008 6:33:07 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican because no Conservatives were running.)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

I adore old age militants!!!!!!!


29 posted on 08/02/2008 6:37:38 PM PDT by Gabz (You said WHAT?????????)
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To: Gabz
I seethe when the driver in the car in front tosses their cigarette out the window. It makes people really dislike smokers.
30 posted on 08/02/2008 6:38:00 PM PDT by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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To: Reeses

I seethe over it as well, just as much as I seethe when someone tosses anything out a window or on the ground.


31 posted on 08/02/2008 6:42:25 PM PDT by Gabz (You said WHAT?????????)
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To: Bill Dupray

We’re libs - here’s our middle finger. :)


32 posted on 08/02/2008 6:48:10 PM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Obama for President!)
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To: Conspiracy Guy
I frequently put an unlit cigarette in my mouth in a no smoking area just to watch people freak out. I have become a militant in my old age.

And here I thought that I was the only one to be doing this...

the infowarrior

33 posted on 08/02/2008 8:18:17 PM PDT by infowarrior
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To: Reeses
I seethe when the driver in the car in front tosses their cigarette out the window. It makes people really dislike smokers.

Why do you care?

34 posted on 08/02/2008 8:38:19 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: Conspiracy Guy
I frequently put an unlit cigarette in my mouth in a no smoking area just to watch people freak out. I have become a militant in my old age.

I use that tactic to clear the fat chicks out of the candy aisle at the grocery store.

35 posted on 08/02/2008 8:40:24 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: Gabz

Thanks for the ping!


36 posted on 08/02/2008 11:04:12 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
Why do you care?

Too many cigarette smokers think of the great outdoors as their personal ashtray. That attitude of disregard for others extends to other areas. Cigarette addicts have only themselves to blame for their unpopularity. Their constant two minute quickies are ruining it for those of us that actually enjoy a good smoke.

37 posted on 08/03/2008 4:13:25 AM PDT by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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To: Bill Dupray

I think Oklahoma State University also banned outdoor smoking campus-wide.


38 posted on 08/03/2008 4:25:06 AM PDT by Puddleglum
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To: Gabz

We are a special group.


39 posted on 08/03/2008 6:07:34 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican because no Conservatives were running.)
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To: infowarrior

Isn’t it funny to watch the faces. You can tell a non-smoker by their disgusted look.


40 posted on 08/03/2008 6:08:42 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican because no Conservatives were running.)
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To: elkfersupper

They are the ones on the store scooter.


41 posted on 08/03/2008 6:09:33 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican because no Conservatives were running.)
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To: Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; Allerious; ...


Libertarian ping! To be added or removed freepmail me or post a message here.
42 posted on 08/03/2008 9:44:17 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: HoosierHawk

:-)


43 posted on 08/03/2008 9:47:24 AM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Gabz; GOP_Lady

I went to college in Maryland. Great times.

I smoked in my dorm room. Then in the Fraternity house. We smoked in the bathroom.

I remember we had one guy who was a complete smoke fiend....he used to smoke in the shower. Swear to God.

He used the soap dish as an ashtray. Even I was not that bad. He couldn’t wait 5 minutes.

But these chilruns have had enough anti-smoking mandatory assemblies that they might think this social engineering experiment is OK. Or maybe these kids will be the equivalent of the new 60’s radicals and tell Gubmint to go screw themselves.


44 posted on 08/03/2008 9:28:09 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Reeses
“Damn cigarette smokers are ruining it for everyone with their littering and druggie-like behaviors.”

huh? Way to make friends and influence people there Reeses. Guess you never heard the expression “hang together or hang separately”.

45 posted on 08/04/2008 9:03:42 AM PDT by monday
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