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With Gustav approaching New Orleans Residents stocking up on AR-15ís and ammo
dvorak.org/blog ^ | 08/28/08 | McCullough

Posted on 08/30/2008 8:21:56 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3

We just got a call from Devline Rossell, a charter captain based out of Venice, Louisiana. He was shopping in New Orleans to get some supplies before the arrival of Gustav (currently listed as a tropical storm that has left at least 22 dead in the Caribbean) and reported that the item most in demand was not food, clothing or shelter.

“I just left a sporting goods store and you would think that the number-one selling item would be plywood or potable water or gasoline right now,” he said. “Apparently it is AR-15s and .223 ammo. I watched at least 20 people buy AR-15s and cases of .223.”

Can’t say I’m surprised. After the nightmare that was Katrina I think it would be unwise for anyone to assume the state, local or federal government could guarantee his or her personal safety during a natural disaster. Of course, I think it is foolish to assume that under any circumstance.

The AR buying spree demonstrates that people don’t think of it as an “assault weapon” but rather an arm that is ideally suited for self-defense, which it is. I also suspect that for some of the folks this is their first firearm. Goes to show that not only is there no such thing as an atheist in a foxhole but that there is no such thing as a gun-control advocate in one either.


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KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; ammo; banglist; gustav; neworleans; preparedness; weather
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1 posted on 08/30/2008 8:21:56 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3
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To: TornadoAlley3
Bitterly clinging to their guns and religion.

Maybe Obama can calm the storm...

Cheers!

2 posted on 08/30/2008 8:26:30 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

LOL!!!


3 posted on 08/30/2008 8:27:20 AM PDT by jim35 ("...when the lion and the lamb lie down together, ...we'd better damn sure be the lion")
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To: TornadoAlley3
I would suspect there's a lot of veteran non-gun-owners out there who would like, if they have to get one, to get one with which they are already intimately familiar.
4 posted on 08/30/2008 8:30:29 AM PDT by ExGeeEye (I'm Right Guard, here to prevent B. O.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Are these people bying the guns in anticipation of the comong of Gustav or the predicted riots when Obambi loses the election. Be safe, do it for either reason.


5 posted on 08/30/2008 8:33:37 AM PDT by 353FMG (What marxism and fascism could not destroy, liberalism did.)
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To: grey_whiskers

LOL ...

I never understood why people buy ammo when an emergency shows up ... don’t they have stock


6 posted on 08/30/2008 8:36:47 AM PDT by Tarpon (Ignorance, the most expensive commodity produced by mankind.)
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To: 353FMG

If Obambi doesn’t pull off the great swindle, than I expect urban areas and college campuses will be “no go” zones for any one who “looks” like they may have not voted for the Glorious One.


7 posted on 08/30/2008 8:43:36 AM PDT by redstateconfidential (A man who lets his friends down, is no man at all.)
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To: grey_whiskers
Maybe Obama can calm the storm...

Only if he can throw billions of our tax dollars at it.

I feel safe. I stocked up on 1500 rounds of 60 grain surplus rounds last year, along with 10 additionaal 20 round mags. The AR15 is a good middle range defense weapon.

8 posted on 08/30/2008 8:44:05 AM PDT by woofer (Senator Obama ain't run nothin' but his mouth - Steyn)
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To: TornadoAlley3
"After the nightmare that was Katrina I think it would be unwise for anyone to assume the state, local or federal government could guarantee his or her personal safety during a natural disaster."

Always a mistake to depend on the Goobbbermint.

9 posted on 08/30/2008 8:47:11 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Constantly choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil.)
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To: ExGeeEye
I would suspect there's a lot of veteran non-gun-owners out there who would like, if they have to get one, to get one with which they are already intimately familiar.

I'm waiting for early November to get mine. Need to get an A2 model clone for me.

10 posted on 08/30/2008 8:50:27 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Define yourself by what you do, not by your ideology, belief, origins, genitals, etc ....)
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To: TornadoAlley3

I’ve got my Katrina rifle ready also....heck, I bought two AR-15’s right before the last cane rolled through.

I’d rather have and not need....


11 posted on 08/30/2008 8:51:45 AM PDT by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: TornadoAlley3


12 posted on 08/30/2008 8:54:55 AM PDT by mainestategop (MAINE: The way communism should be)
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To: TornadoAlley3

I don’t know why they are buying guns and ammo, since if this turns into another Katrina event the feds will go door to door and confiscate all guns again.


13 posted on 08/30/2008 8:58:13 AM PDT by rightwinghour (http://rightwinghour.podbean.com/)
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To: rightwinghour
I don’t know why they are buying guns and ammo, since if this turns into another Katrina event the feds will go door to door and confiscate all guns again.

That was the NOLA PD not the feds. Also people that buy AR-15's are very different than your typical handgun/shotgun owner and are more likely to resist violently.

14 posted on 08/30/2008 9:17:11 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Define yourself by what you do, not by your ideology, belief, origins, genitals, etc ....)
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To: TornadoAlley3

AR15s and .223 ammo.

Hmmm, good choice for an all-rounder.

Nothing beats a good 12g for keeping vermin off the porch, though.


15 posted on 08/30/2008 9:17:59 AM PDT by PeteB570 (NRA - Life member and Black Rifle owner)
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To: Tarpon

Hey, it works well on the Mrs.

“Honey, there is a storm coming. I need to go down to the gun shop and get some more ammo.”

“Fine, but don’t you go seeing any orphan gun in the rack and bring it home claiming we can give it a good home. We got enough stray calibers to stock up on as it is now.””


16 posted on 08/30/2008 9:21:43 AM PDT by PeteB570 (NRA - Life member and Black Rifle owner)
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To: Tarpon

don’t they have stock=Yes your stock


17 posted on 08/30/2008 9:25:55 AM PDT by Vaduz (and just think how clean the cities would become again.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

I still haven’t figured out the thing about plywood. They live in a storm center and every season, they have to buy more plywood. Wouldn’t workable shutters on these houses save hundreds of dollars a year?


18 posted on 08/30/2008 9:32:49 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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To: woofer

You’re better off with about two hundred rounds you have and 15 hundred empty cartridge cases that show evidence you practiced.


19 posted on 08/30/2008 9:36:10 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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To: redstateconfidential

***I expect urban areas and college campuses will be “no go” zones for any one who “looks” like they may have not voted for the Glorious One.***

Well that includes me.


20 posted on 08/30/2008 9:38:17 AM PDT by wastedyears (Show me your precious darlings, and I will crush them all)
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To: Centurion2000

They had the DEA and National Guard, along with CA Highway Patrol and other various state organizations.


21 posted on 08/30/2008 9:44:55 AM PDT by wastedyears (Show me your precious darlings, and I will crush them all)
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To: Shooter 2.5

Well storm shutters like that are big and ugly. It’s not like the small ones worked into the design of the window.


22 posted on 08/30/2008 9:47:01 AM PDT by wastedyears (Show me your precious darlings, and I will crush them all)
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To: wastedyears
They had the DEA and National Guard, along with CA Highway Patrol and other various state organizations

Damn, didn't know that ... thx.

23 posted on 08/30/2008 9:59:49 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Define yourself by what you do, not by your ideology, belief, origins, genitals, etc ....)
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To: PeteB570

Depends on how much ammo you already have, and how wise the wife is ...


24 posted on 08/30/2008 10:14:20 AM PDT by Tarpon (Ignorance, the most expensive commodity produced by mankind.)
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To: Shooter 2.5
You’re better off with about two hundred rounds you have and 15 hundred empty cartridge cases that show evidence you practiced.

Shooter; the 200 yard range at my home club, the 600 yard range at the Des Moines Rifle Club and the other 200 yard range just south of Council Bluffs were littered with the brass of 2,000 rds used to perfect my skill with that gun (less the rounds used to sight in some scopes on the Rem and T3) in all of the required positions.

But, thanks for reminding everyone that you are only as good as your range card sez.

25 posted on 08/30/2008 10:36:49 AM PDT by woofer (Senator Obama ain't run nothin' but his mouth - Steyn)
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To: Tarpon

Ammo - you never have enough. It’s like a woman and shoes.

You have the 20 rd box, plastic battle wrap bags, ammo cans, crates, cases, spam cans - and then we have to start all over again with the next caliber.

:-)


26 posted on 08/30/2008 12:12:29 PM PDT by PeteB570 (NRA - Life member and Black Rifle owner)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; wku man; SLB; ..
Interesting if true.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

27 posted on 08/30/2008 12:36:47 PM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Joe Brower

I would hope that Katrina would awaken even the dead.


28 posted on 08/30/2008 12:44:21 PM PDT by B4Ranch ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you"--John Steinbeck)
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To: grey_whiskers

Speaking of the Obamassiah:

Obama: Let’s hope lessons of Katrina were learned
By PHILIP ELLIOTT, Associated Press Writer
1 hour, 34 minutes ago

BOARDMAN, Ohio - Barack Obama expressed hope Saturday that the lessons learned from Hurricane Katrina three years ago would help to protect the Gulf Coast from Hurricane Gustav this time. His running mate, Joe Biden, urged people to pray that the levees in New Orleans hold.

Obama and Biden visited a diner in this Youngstown suburb, an area that Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton carried during her failed presidential bid. Trying to connect with those who are economically struggling, the Democratic candidates and their wives chatted with diners and told reporters that a properly orchestrated evacuation would be key to protecting the Gulf Coast.

“It wasn’t last time, and hopefully we’ve learned from that tragedy,” Obama told reporters as he left the diner, heading to a memorial service for the late Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones, the first black woman to represent Ohio in Congress. She died Aug. 20 from a brain hemorrhage caused by a ruptured aneurysm.

Obama and Biden planned another joint appearance later Saturday in the Columbus area.

Northeast Ohio, a Rust Belt region where the economy has struggled, supported Clinton’s presidential bid back in March. Obama carried the Democratic stronghold of Cuyahoga County, with Cleveland, but lost 83 of 88 counties.

Since then, Obama has been a frequent visitor in the area, trying to connect with the white, working-class voters who have eluded him thus far.

Biden said the Gulf Coast appears better prepared for a major hurricane this time than it was for Katrina, which left New Orleans and surrounding areas submerged. He said it appeared officials had learned from Katrina, and he praised moves to make major highways one-way routes out of the storm-targeted areas.

“It looks like they’re incredibly well prepared, much better than they had before,” Biden said. “Just pray to God that those levees hold.”

The Bush administration’s handling of Hurricane Katrina in 2005 has been lambasted by both parties’ presidential candidates. Republican John McCain has called the response shameful, and Obama regularly blasts President Bush.

Gustav gathered strength as it barreled toward Cuba on Saturday, on track to hit the U.S. Gulf Coast. The storm already has killed 78 people in the Caribbean.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/cvn_obama_biden


29 posted on 08/30/2008 12:48:49 PM PDT by hattend (Obama is a lying idiot. We're so screwed. - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Joe Brower
Joe, it's very Un-PC of me to say it, but when Katrina hit, my first thought was "drinks, and then weapons!" If you have that, you can, ahem! "liberate" the rest you need.

Probably my old shipbreaker and pirate ancestry talking, but that's the honest truth, how I saw it.


Just an old Keyboard Cowboy...gating back out, into Cyberspace and the -Dreamtime--

30 posted on 08/30/2008 12:49:33 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an old keyboard cowboy, ridin' the Trakball in to the Sunset...)
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To: TornadoAlley3

This is an example of piss poor planning. The AR-15 and ammo should have been bought a long time ago. I didn’t need to have an emergency to prepare myself. My house is already wired for the emergency generator sitting in my garage on a trickle charger. I have firearms and ammo for defending myself and for hunting. We have water close by in case the well is unusable and we have food on hand. My wife and I will be able to weather most emergencies quite well.


31 posted on 08/30/2008 12:53:51 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Democrats spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: Joe Brower

they should prepare. COPS might go on a spree again


32 posted on 08/30/2008 12:57:12 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Centurion2000

The National Guard, the Oklahoma National Guard, and US Marshals did an awful lot of gun confiscation, too.


33 posted on 08/30/2008 1:11:53 PM PDT by rightwinghour (http://rightwinghour.podbean.com/)
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To: Joe Brower

Good choice!! >:-}


34 posted on 08/30/2008 1:31:46 PM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: TornadoAlley3
After the nightmare that was Katrina I think it would be unwise for anyone to assume the state, local or federal government could guarantee his or her personal safety during a natural disaster.

After the nightmare that was Katrina I think it would be unwise for anyone to hang around if it zeros in on New Orleans.

IMHO, For property defense, they'd be better off with 12 Ga. shotguns with high capacity magazines loaded with 00 Buck.

35 posted on 08/30/2008 1:56:11 PM PDT by Barnacle (Palin - The Antibama.)
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To: wastedyears

“They had the DEA and National Guard, along with CA Highway Patrol and other various state organizations.”

Blackwater is taking applications in anticipation.


36 posted on 08/30/2008 2:13:54 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: Shooter 2.5
I still haven’t figured out the thing about plywood. ...

me neither, same goes for 'sandbagging' the same spots around the Miss river...why not just pour concrete over it after the water recedes ???

37 posted on 08/30/2008 2:17:25 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 ("JesusChrist 08"...Trust in the Lord......=...LiveFReeOr Die...)
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To: PeteB570
Here's how the conversation goes in my house:

Wife, "Another one?!"

Me, "Just doing my part to keep guns off the street."

38 posted on 08/30/2008 2:24:59 PM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: PeteB570
I have an AK-47 clone in semi-auto that is very nice. Old man Kalishnikov designed a very simple easy to field clean weapon.

Of course when the going gets real rough, there is always the M-1.

39 posted on 08/30/2008 2:27:05 PM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Centurion2000

Watch this video. It will make your blood boil.

Scroll down the page:

http://www.nraila.org/Issues/FactSheets/Read.aspx?ID=191


40 posted on 08/30/2008 3:25:19 PM PDT by A. Patriot (CZ 52's ROCK)
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To: Jimmy Valentine

The SKS and AK Clone are for the girls.

Being a little smaller than me they like the way they handle. The wife likes the M1 Carbine.

I like the AR for sentimental reasons and I’ve never had a problem with one.


41 posted on 08/30/2008 3:25:57 PM PDT by PeteB570 (NRA - Life member and Black Rifle owner)
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To: A. Patriot

I’ve seen that Katrina confiscation video plenty of times.


42 posted on 08/30/2008 5:02:52 PM PDT by wastedyears (Show me your precious darlings, and I will crush them all)
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To: A. Patriot

Holy crap.


43 posted on 08/30/2008 5:32:15 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Define yourself by what you do, not by your ideology, belief, origins, genitals, etc ....)
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To: Centurion2000

What surprised me is that the Coast Guard was involved.


44 posted on 08/30/2008 5:35:28 PM PDT by A. Patriot (CZ 52's ROCK)
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To: Shooter 2.5
Wouldn’t workable shutters on these houses save hundreds of dollars a year?

I can answer that. Storm shutters won't stand up to a steady wind of 65 mph. About the only thing that will is some good solid 3/4 inch plywood screwed into the window frame. Even nails will pull loose in a wind like that.

An average storm shutter will last 10 or 15 minutes in a gale force wind, but get much above that for very long and they're gone.

Around our house we've got pre-cut sheets of 3/4 inch stuff in the shed labelled with the windows they are sized for.

There's also a box of 2-1/2 deck screws to hold them in place in there.

L

45 posted on 08/30/2008 6:04:02 PM PDT by Lurker (Islam is an insane death cult. Any other aspects are PR to get them within throat-cutting range.)
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To: TornadoAlley3
Of course they are buying guns and ammo. The police stole the stuff they had before Katrina, and it's looking like they might need it again.

I predict if police try to take guns this time, police will be shot. As they should be, since such an action is now a violation of state law, as well as the state and federal constitutions. Hopefully they won't try..hopefully.

46 posted on 08/30/2008 8:11:06 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Centurion2000
That was the NOLA PD not the feds.

WELL.....sorta. It was also the national guards from other states, notably some very antigun areas. Like the State of Illinois, where brother Barack hails from. THey said the duty was very similar to duty in Iraq but felt strange because of it being Americans they were aiming their weapons at. Still, they had to do it. After all they must follow orders.... Sound familiar? I don't care who is acting: local state or feds. Anytime a law enforcement officer follows orders to the detriment of the people then we no longer live in a free republic. Katrina was a wake up call. Still, the sheep continue to graze.

47 posted on 08/30/2008 8:12:07 PM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: Centurion2000
I'm waiting for early November to get mine. Need to get an A2 model clone for me.

IF I were you, I'd buy at a gun show in late OCT. Reason being if the OBAMANATION WINS in early November you'll see a price spike to rival oil, but worse.

48 posted on 08/30/2008 8:20:15 PM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: 353FMG
Are these people bying the guns in anticipation of the comong of Gustav or the predicted riots when Obambi loses the election. Be safe, do it for either reason.

Problem is, the store where I intended to buy my Bushmaster AR from, burnt to the ground last Wednesday night. I drove by just as the first fire truck arrived on scene. As of last night, they still had a fire truck on site watching for flare ups, and at least one police car to guard the guns.

The ammo cooking off sounded like popcorn, at least from the other side of the highway.

Estimates were that there had been around 500-600 firearms, and 50-80 thousand rounds of ammo in there.

The fire flared on Friday as shown below.

It was reported that the vault, with all the guns and the jewelry, survived more or less intact, as far as they can tell without being able to get in to it.

49 posted on 08/30/2008 8:32:13 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Tarpon
I never understood why people buy ammo when an emergency shows up ... don’t they have stock

It's not like you can have too much.

Maybe they just fired off a chunk of their "stockpile" practicing and were waiting for a good sale, or next months gun show, for a good deal.

Maybe they'd even ordered some but it had not yet arrived.

But of course many would have taken an inventory and decided... well a little more wouldn't hurt.

50 posted on 08/30/2008 8:35:58 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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