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Evidence That Jewish Vote is Shifting to McCain
Yid with a Lid ^ | 9/17/2008 | Yid With Lid

Posted on 09/17/2008 9:37:49 AM PDT by SuperSonic

Yesterday a Poll from Sienna College was released showing that McCain was gaining on Obama in NY State. The most astounding part of the Poll was the Jewish Vote that represents about 12% of the total in NY is supporting McCain by a 54% to 32% margin. This is a MAJOR shift that if duplicated nationally can help move Key states including NJ and Pennsylvania to the McCain corner.

Previous Democratic Party candidates John Kerry and Al Gore, received 75-80% of the Jewish vote. In fact you have to go all the way back to the Jimmy Carter/Ronald Reagan election to find the Democratic candidate losing the Jewish vote on a National basis.

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TOPICS: Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: election; electionpresident; jewish; jewishvote; mccain; mccainpalin
The internals seem to show that most Jewish voters have been paying attention to this election but don't trust Obama.
1 posted on 09/17/2008 9:37:50 AM PDT by SuperSonic
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To: SuperSonic

well, he doesn’t like Israel much. Self preservation.


2 posted on 09/17/2008 9:38:33 AM PDT by television is just wrong (The Democrats have lost cabin pressure and the oxygen masks have dropped.)
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To: SuperSonic

It depends on what kind of Jew they are. I work with a liberal Jew and she supports Obama for pro-choice stand. She said her Jewish belief is that until a child is 7 days old they are not considered a person. So the answer to when life begins is when they are 7 days old. She stated that this is not the belief of all Jews. In fact, she said if you get 5 Jews in a room, you’ll get 5 different theological views.


3 posted on 09/17/2008 9:42:43 AM PDT by Michigan CD
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To: SuperSonic

Jews voting for B. Hussein Obama are about as smart as chickens voting for Colonel Sanders.


4 posted on 09/17/2008 9:42:45 AM PDT by proudpapa (McCain - Palin'08)
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To: Michigan CD

Ask her, “What percentage of abortions are performed before those seven days?”


5 posted on 09/17/2008 9:48:29 AM PDT by SuperSonic (Bush "lied", people dyed.......their fingers purple.)
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To: SuperSonic

I frankly don’t believe this. Good news if true, but VERY unlikely.


6 posted on 09/17/2008 9:53:19 AM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: Michigan CD

Been Jewish all my life. First time I hear that a child is not a person.

Self-preservatin would do it.
Not surpriced NY & NJ are so close.


7 posted on 09/17/2008 9:53:29 AM PDT by EddieUSA
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To: Michigan CD

There’s a Jewish joke says that a fetus becomes viable when it graduates from medical school.


8 posted on 09/17/2008 9:58:34 AM PDT by devere
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To: EddieUSA
"Been Jewish all my life. First time I hear that a child is not a person." I'm sure the lady who believes this is just supporting her pro-choice views by misconstruing something.
9 posted on 09/17/2008 10:05:38 AM PDT by Michigan CD
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To: SuperSonic

Obama could end up being a major (HUGH) mistake by the ‘rats. Especially if voting blocks that have historically been ‘rat loyal are crossing lines.


10 posted on 09/17/2008 10:24:50 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: SJackson; Alouette

Ping.


11 posted on 09/17/2008 10:30:43 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Obama: the last great hope of Liberalism in America.)
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To: DannyTN
Abortion Issue Again Dividing Catholic Votes
12 posted on 09/17/2008 10:35:43 AM PDT by SuperSonic (Bush "lied", people dyed.......their fingers purple.)
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To: SuperSonic

I believe this is very likely. It is about time that people particulary Jewish people woke up to the menace the Demonrat party is to Israel and US/Israeli relations.


13 posted on 09/17/2008 1:14:14 PM PDT by YdontUleaveLibs (Reason is out to lunch. How may I help you?)
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To: Michigan CD
I work with a liberal Jew and she supports Obama for pro-choice stand. She said her Jewish belief is that until a child is 7 days old they are not considered a person.

That is not Jewish belief.

14 posted on 09/17/2008 1:15:32 PM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: SuperSonic

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15 posted on 09/17/2008 1:52:10 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Phodopus campbelli: household ruler since July 2007.)
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To: SuperSonic

I was trying to figure out why this is suddenly happening. So I went looking. Found this very liberal Jewish paper. Every political article is pro-Obama.

And smack in the middle of it is this:

Bad News for Jewish Dems: Carter Speaking At Convention

The Barack Obama presidential campaign, still fighting hard to shore up the Jewish vote (this week Daniel Shapiro, an advisor to the campaign, signed on as official Jewish outreach coordinator) can’t be entirely thrilled with today’s announcement of additional speakers for next week’s convention.

Buried in a long list of names was one certain to raise the hackles of many Jewish voters: former President Jimmy Carter.

It’s traditional to have former presidents speak at conventions; political observers point out there’s no way the Democrats could have barred Carter without a ruckus that would undermine the show of unity the party has planned.

But there’s also no way Jewish Republicans won’t spin Carter’s involvement as just about the biggest news of the convention to a pro-Israel community that, by and large, regards him as hostile to the Jewish state, and maybe anti-Semitic as well.

Having Carter on the dais will also be an unwelcome reminder of 1980, when Ronald Reagan won 39 percent of the Jewish vote in his victory against the incumbent president — a benchmark Jewish Republicans hope Sen. John McCain, their presumptive nominee, will match this year.

Carter will speak at the opening session on Monday night, which will be keynoted by Michelle Obama and feature more than a dozen other speakers. Also on the speakers list: Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. whose father, the Rev. Jesse Jackson, won’t get any air time at the convention — not surprising after his embarrassing open-mic comments about the man who will be the center of attention in Denver.


16 posted on 09/17/2008 10:35:35 PM PDT by I still care (A thousand screaming Germans, some fake columns and swooning girly-men does not a campaign make.)
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To: SuperSonic

Oh, and remember there is a Israeli election right now. So Jewish security is on the voters’ minds.


17 posted on 09/17/2008 10:36:49 PM PDT by I still care (A thousand screaming Germans, some fake columns and swooning girly-men does not a campaign make.)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
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18 posted on 09/18/2008 5:51:38 AM PDT by SJackson (as a black man, you know, Barack can get shot going to the gas station, Michelle O)
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To: proudpapa
Jews voting for B. Hussein Obama are about as smart as chickens voting for Colonel Sanders.

Roger that. Case in point NYT columnist Thomas L. Friedman.

19 posted on 09/18/2008 8:37:57 AM PDT by Marauder (Damn all Bolsheviks to hell.)
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To: SuperSonic

Yes, but this is happening in New York where there are more Chus than in the Shanghai phone directory!


20 posted on 09/18/2008 8:41:38 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Are you ready to pray for Teddy?)
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To: I still care

Carter didn’t end up speaking at the Dem convention. Why he didn’t is anyoneone’s guess. Alan Dershowitz claimed that he successfully lobbied the Dem convention bigwigs remove Carter from the program because of his anti-Israel bias. But there could have some other reason why this happened.


21 posted on 09/18/2008 10:11:07 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: ml/nj; firebrand; rmlew; dennisw; juliej; OldFriend; nyyankeefan; montag813; pabianice; Cicero; ...

Ping!!!

Although the result is favorable, the accuracy of the result for Jewish voters in NY is questionable because of the low sample size.


22 posted on 09/18/2008 10:53:43 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

Thanks for the ping!


23 posted on 09/18/2008 10:56:15 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: justiceseeker93

Didn’t the Dems keep Carter away from the ‘84 convention altogether ?


24 posted on 09/18/2008 10:59:21 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: justiceseeker93; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ..

Thanks justiceseeker93, good comment.


25 posted on 09/18/2008 11:21:17 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: justiceseeker93

It’s what you might call two straws in the wind, rather than definite evidence. The sample size is very small, but seems to show a massive shift, well beyond the large margin of error.

Plus the anecdotal evidence that Obama’s Jewish workers in Florida have reported problems lining up Jewish voters. If true, that’s extraordinary. The Miami-Dade machine doesn’t normally have such problems.


26 posted on 09/18/2008 11:40:57 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: SuperSonic; justiceseeker93
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Oh I don't know. Jews should remember that Sarah Palin is a horrible anti-Semite who subscribes to such notorious Nazi-like beliefs as that the world was created by HaShem in six days, that Adam is the literal father of the entire human race, that Noah's Flood actually happened, that the languages were created at Bavel, that the Jewish Patriarchs were historical personages, that Israel was enslaved in Egypt before being led out by Moses, that King David actually existed, that there were once two Jewish Temples in Jerusalem, and that the Book of Esther describes actual historical events.

Just wait till this gets out! Sarah Palin is obviously an extreme chr*stian anti-Semite who breathes Zyclon-B gas and it antithetical to the very foundations of Judaism. No Jew wants some nut who davnens and believes in Divine Providence in office--in fact, such people should be banned from holding any office in the name of "separation of church and state" (while of course exempting people of color, non-chr*stians, and all those quaint "indigenous pipples" whose right to run the country is essential to sound secularism!).

[/End EXTREME sarcasm. Repeat--this has been EXTREME sarcasm. Anyone who doesn't understand the point I'm trying to make is a nudnik who has no business using a computer!!!]

27 posted on 09/18/2008 12:10:04 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ('Arami 'oved 'Avi . . .)
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To: SuperSonic
Here is a great reason for all Jews to vote for John McCain!
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Jewish America is not for Obama.

28 posted on 09/18/2008 3:32:05 PM PDT by ncfool (Obama --- "Jihad is the only true Muslim way")
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To: Michigan CD
She said her Jewish belief is that until a child is 7 days old they are not considered a person. So the answer to when life begins is when they are 7 days old. She stated that this is not the belief of all Jews. In fact, she said if you get 5 Jews in a room, you’ll get 5 different theological views.

It's only the view of materialistic Jews who don't actually believe in God, sanctity of life, and the teachings of the rabbis. (sarc alert) You may want to share this: http://www.jewsforlife.org/Judaism-pro-life-message.cfm

The view of Judaism is that abortion, while not considered murder, should be strongly discouraged. While the fetus is not accorded full human status, it is still considered a developing life with value, that must be protected and saved whenever possible, unless the life of the mother is in danger. In that case, it is permissible to abort the fetus. The Mishnah Oholoth 7:6 along with Rashi's commentaries in Talmud Sanhedrin 72b make it very clear that the life (and not the 'choice' or 'health' of the mother) is the only permissible reason for abortion. Had abortion been performed in Rashi's time for birth control, convenience, or economic reasons there would have been an outcry from rabbis and the religious community and the practice would have been condemned. Under no circumstances should abortion performed for frivolous reasons be given a stamp of approval by rabbis, under the pretext of "health."

Before I formed you in the womb I knew you; Before you were born I sanctified you. (Jeremiah 1:5).

29 posted on 09/18/2008 4:01:36 PM PDT by WOSG (Change America needs: Dump the Pelosi Democrat Congress!!!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Oh I don't know. Jews should remember that Sarah Palin is a horrible anti-Semite who subscribes to such notorious Nazi-like beliefs as that the world was created by HaShem in six days, that Adam is the literal father of the entire human race, that Noah's Flood actually happened, that the languages were created at Bavel, that the Jewish Patriarchs were historical personages, that Israel was enslaved in Egypt before being led out by Moses, that King David actually existed, that there were once two Jewish Temples in Jerusalem, and that the Book of Esther describes actual historical events.

Oy vey! ... Self-hating Jews *really* hate those Zion-loving evangelicals, dont they.

30 posted on 09/18/2008 4:05:16 PM PDT by WOSG (Change America needs: Dump the Pelosi Democrat Congress!!!)
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To: WOSG

bttt


31 posted on 09/18/2008 4:05:55 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (Obama is the Democrats guy. They bought the ticket, now they must take the ride.)
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To: WOSG; Michigan CD

Live link:

http://www.jewsforlife.org/Judaism-pro-life-message.cfm


32 posted on 09/18/2008 4:06:18 PM PDT by WOSG (Change America needs: Dump the Pelosi Democrat Congress!!!)
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To: firebrand

ping.


33 posted on 09/18/2008 11:14:14 PM PDT by Yehuda (Prayers up for family and FRiends in Galveston and Houston.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

BTTT! Nailed it!


34 posted on 09/19/2008 4:02:16 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (“Do you know the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull? Lipstick.” - V.P. Sarah Palin)
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