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To: Amityschild

There is a copy of Birth Cert on Fight the Smears Website. If it is a forgery it will mean that everything that Obama has said to date if a LIE.

Of course he is fighting the Truth.


12 posted on 10/02/2008 2:46:53 PM PDT by tomnbeverly (America is dying your choice is to stand and fight or cut and run.)
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To: tomnbeverly; TChris
Media have been trying to obfuscate the truth about Obama for months.

The kefuffle over Obama supposedly fighting against medical treatment for children born afterbotched abortions, is a case in point. The actual bills that IL right to lifers were trying to get passed were to stop a growingly popular form of killing the alive unborn via forced premature birth and neglect, to have the preemies struggle and die unattended, alone, after birthing.

The media has been determined to mischaracterize this Obama history, but the truth is Barack Obama was trying to defend a form of infanticide. They've even gone so far as to give limited air time to Gianna Jessen, survivor from a botched saline abortion. But the thing Obama was trying to protect, to keep legal, was killing the alive unborn by forcing their delivery early, prematurely, so they cannot survive int he air world.

Obama has plead he was trying to protect Roe v Wade by stopping the focus upon 'children born after a botched abortion', but the thing Obama was trying to protect was this newest way to terminate pregnancies, and it was killing tens of thousands of alive little ones all over the nation, that's why the US Congress took up the issue. The killing method is murdering premature alive babies, masquerading as an abortion failed, which is a very rare occurrence! Obama truly defended INFANTICIDE as a legitimate for of 'abortion'.

23 posted on 10/02/2008 2:59:37 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: tomnbeverly
There is a copy of Birth Cert on Fight the Smears Website.

No there isn't. What they've put up on that site is a supposed copy of an official Certification of Live Birth record from the State of Hawaii...a very different thing. Search for posts by FReeper Polarik on this.

43 posted on 10/02/2008 3:45:40 PM PDT by Eroteme
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To: tomnbeverly

It is a forgery, AFAIK. Fight the Smears did not produce that document, they relied on a Kos poster who claimed to have retrieved it somehow from Hawaii. Later, that same poster admitted to how easy it was to forge such documents and used the very same one as an example. The “real” document has never been posted as far as I know. There never was a hard copy of what Fight the Smears posted—it’s always been a digital scan and fairly poorly mocked up.


57 posted on 10/02/2008 5:16:21 PM PDT by Ilya Mourometz
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