Posted on 10/15/2008 8:40:33 PM PDT by Tejava
I couldn’t find the rest of this but I just did! Here it is in its entirety:
Did Jesus Claim Barack Obama is SATAN?
In Luke 10:18 Jesus states,
“I beheld Satan as Lightning fall from Heaven.”
How does a Jewish Rabbi, which Jesus is credited with being (John
1:38), say in HEBREW, that Satan is like LIGHTNING from heaven?
Barack, also transliterated as Baraq in Hebrew, is LIGHTNING (Strongs
Hebrew word 1300). Even in Greek, Barak is LIGHTNING (Strongs Greek
word 913) for the name of a person!
The ONLY WAY, a Jewish Rabbi can say in Hebrew that SATAN is LIGHTNING
is, SATAN BARACK!
Interestingly, the “Greek” verse of Luke 10:18 does not contain an
actual Greek word to translate into “Fall”. The Greek word translated
as “Fall” appears to be a rare form of a Hebrew word for
“transgressions”. So, the words of Jesus in this verse probably refer
to heavenly transgressions.
In Hebrew poetry from the dominant book that the New Testament draws
upon, to validate the “works” of Jesus as “proof” of poetic prophecy,
the use of BAMA (Strongs Hebrew word 1116) is used to refer to the
“heights” of heaven. That book is Isaiah. Christian scholars would
agree, that much of the New Testament refers directly to passages of
Isaiah’s poetry.
Isaiah is also the source of origin for the Christian concept of
“Satan” or “Lucifer” Isaiah 14:12.
In the verses of Isaiah that refer directly to “Lucifer” in King James
translations of Isaiah, sure enough, BAMA (Strongs Hebrew word 1116)
is used to refer to the “Heights” of Heaven (Isaiah 14:14)!
In Hebrew, the letter vau is transliterated as an “O” or “U”. It is
primarily used as a conjunction to join concepts together. So, to
“join” in Hebrew poetry the concept of lightning (Barack) and a high
place like heaven or the “Heights of Heaven”, the letter “O” or Hebrew
vau would be used. Bama is most commonly used to refer to a high
sacred place, as well as to the “Heights” of the heavens or clouds.
So, Barack O Bama in Hebrew poetry, similar to the style of Isaiah,
would translate literally as Lightning and the “Heights” of the sky or
heaven!
Satan is Satan in Hebrew. So the Jesus “Prophecy” of Luke 10:18, if
spoken actually by a Jewish Rabbi influenced by the poetry of Isaiah,
would have said the verse Luke 10:18 as ;
Satan Barack O Bama
That would be Hebrew for Satan is Lightning (Barack) and the heights
(BAMA) of heaven or the sky.
Since the oldest copy of Luke 10:18 is recorded in Greek, the only
word we need to add, is the incorrectly translated word for a “fall”.
Thus far, Christian scholars claim the word translated as “fall” is
Strongs Greek 4098, Pipto. In Luke 10:18, in GREEK, Pipto is not used.
The word is pesouta. This is probably a Greek phonetic usage of the
Hebrew word. Like Satan is Hebrew and translated phonetically as a
Hebrew word, it seems pesouta, a Hebrew word, was not correctly
translated, since a Greek word NOT IN THE GREEK TEXT for “fall” is
credited by scholars as being in the Satan is Barack (Lightning)
verse.
The Hebrew root of pesouta is a word normally used to refer to a
“transgression” or a sin.
Pesa (Strongs Hebrew word 6588) refers to a revolt, rebellion or sin,
a “transgression”. This is the exact concept normally associated with
“Satan” in Christian theology.
So, Luke 10:18 is correctly translated as;
“Satan is like Lightning (Barack) and the Highest (Bama) heavenly
rebellion/sin/transgression!!
While Christians consider “Sin” a humanly “fall” from Grace, the Greek
word for a “fall” is not used in Luke 10:18.
Interestingly, we now have a political leader on the threshold of
obtaining control of the largest arsenal of NUCLEAR WARHEADS on this
planet!
If you were SATAN, or Barack (Hebrew for Lightning), what army would
you try to take control of, so you could unleash 10,000 NUKES upon
mankind and DESTROY what he hates (Humanity)?
That army, is the army of the United States of America!
Interestingly, another world figure named Barack, is already in
control of over 100 NUKES! The minister of Defense of Israel is named
Barack!
The New Testament records Jesus saying LIGHTNING, or Barack in Hebrew,
only three times! Luke 10:18 is clear. SATAN is BARACK or Lightning!
In Matthew 24:27, Jesus explains how his “coming” will be connected to
LIGHTNING (Barack)!
Matt 24:27
“For as the Lightning (Barack) cometh out of the east and shineth unto
the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be!”
The Greek word translated as “For” in this verse is gar (Strongs Greek
word 1063). This word can also be translated as SEEING or WHEN. So
seeing Barack or when Barack comes from the east and shines unto the
west is a TIMING EVENT for the “Coming of Jesus”!
Barack Obama grew up in the “East”, in the country of Indonesia! His
political career is now about to shine upon the West, the United
States!
Can it be, the “Coming of the Son of Man” is nigh?
According to New Testament verses, Lightning or Barack is SATAN and
his travels from the East in Indonesia to his accession to the throne
of power in the West, the United States, signals the “Coming of the
Son of Man”!
In Luke 17:24, Jesus once again uses Lightning (Barack aka SATAN) for
a timing prophecy of his “Coming”!
Once again, the Greek word gar (Strongs Greek word 1063) is translated
as “for”. However, it is also “seeing” or “when”. So, Luke 17:24 can
also be read as:
“Seeing/when lightning (Barack) comes out of Heaven... so shall also
the Son of man be in his day!”
So, Jesus used Lightning (Barack in Hebrew) to literally describe
SATAN! He then tied his “Coming” to the appearance of “Barack” or
Lightning aka SATAN! Many political pundits describe the charisma of
Barack Obama as “Messianic”! Perhaps they should read their Bibles
closer and see it is really SATANIC CONTROL!
The modern “Jewish” concept of SATAN is not like the Christian concept
of SATAN! “Jews” with a traditional “Jewish” view of the Old Testament
consider SATAN to be an “accuser” or an “opponent”, not a “fallen
angel” out to DESTROY Mankind!
In fact, SATAN is actually two different words in Hebrew. The second
SATAN means literally PISS ON THE WALL! In fact, the Hebrew word SIN
means the same thing PISS ON THE WALL! (See Strongs Hebrew word 8366 =
Satan/Piss/Sin).
The Satan Christians comprehend, is Strongs Hebrew words 7853 and
7854. The ADVERSARY, slanderer, opponent or accuser!
The Christian version of Satan was influenced by the Greek version of
the Old Testament, created about 300 B.C., the Greek Septuaginta.
That Greek view of “Satan” probably emanated from contemporary Hebrew
thought that was not part of mainstream Judaism. That view, was of the
separatist Jews now known as the “Essenes”. The Essenic concept of a
Great War in Heaven between the Sons of God was written about in
Essenic literature that is not part of traditional Bibles now.
However, their poetic prose about the “Great Battle” between the Sons
of Light and the Sons of Darkness were rediscovered not long before
Barack was born! That discovery was the Dead Sea Scrolls!
Most Christian Scholars now connect Jesus to the group of Essenes that
wrote the Dead Sea Scrolls, primarily due to their communal concept of
life, devotion to a minimalistic lifestyle almost in poverty, and of
course ritual bathing or baptism. The Essenes were also acclaimed
“Healers”, in the mode of the “Miracles” of the New Testament!
So, is Satan like what “Jews” are taught? An accuser? Or PISS ON THE
WALL? Or, is Satan really LIGHTNING/BARACK who now strolls the earth,
walking to and fro, and about to take CONTROL of over 10,000 NUKES?
If SATAN is a real diabolic fallen “angel”, then the rise of Satan/
Lightning/Barack is THE SIGN that the COMING of IMMANUEL is nigh...
Written on the 29th day of June 2008 C.E. by ;
The Hon. Dr. Rabbi Sollog Immanuel Adonai-Adoni
www.sollog.com
www.sollogs.com
Sollog has authored over 50 books. Most are about religion. He is the
founder of Hykal ‘Hayah (Temple of ‘Hayah – THE LORD)
So, Jesus used Lightning (Barack in Hebrew) to literally describe SATAN!
Again, Jesus did not speak Hebrew but a Semitic dialect called Aramaic. Different spelling and pronunciation for same word.
And - as noted in posts 9 & 11 above - "Baraq" and "Barak" are two entirely different words with two entirely different meanings!
Please stop posting this! There are any number of better reasons to believe this guy is wrong for the highest office in the land, but calling him Satan??? That's quite the stretch! I don't credit him with that much power!
In the thread you link, see my posts 10 and 14 there, where I make the same point, i.e., that “Barack” means “blessing,” not “lightning” (which would be “baraq”).
Satan is the Father of Lies, the False Prophet is a man of peace who will seduce many by flattery, bribery and falsehoods, he will conquer many nations"
Many, many scholars will disagree with you that Jesus spoke only Aramaic.
Here is a good article:
http://www.israelforum.com/board/archive/index.php/t-3517.html
excerpt:
In Understanding the Difficult Words of Jesus, we present considerable evidence to conclusively establish that:
Jesus spoke and taught in Hebrew;
Hebrew was the language of the common person in Judea in Jesus’ day; The Synoptic Gospels (Matthew, Mark, and Luke) were all based on an original Life Story of Jesus that was written originally in Hebrew and not in Aramaic or in Greek.
These facts have long been known by scholars in Israel, but are only now being introduced into countries outside of Israel. The reasons for this are simply that our research in Israel is years ahead of publication, and second, that scholarship in this country by and large has not kept up with the research and discoveries in Israel. This is one reason I believe that the Yavo Digest can be an important source of information and learning for you, and why I sincerely hope you will subscribe to it for yourself and perhaps for some of your friends as well. There is so much that we have to share and so little of it has yet been presented in written form.
Another excerpt:
Of course, the Dead Sea Scrolls provide for us one of the most dramatic and significant of the epigraphical evidences for Hebrew. The Dead Sea Scrolls include nearly 600 partial manuscripts, both biblical and non-biblical, indicated by some 40,000 fragments. The most telling evidence of the scrolls is found in the sectarian scrolls and the commentaries on the biblical scrolls. In the sectarian scrolls, the ratio of Hebrew to Aramaic is, again, nine to one, but all of the commentaries are in Hebrew. It is impossible to conclude that a commentary on the Scripture would be written in a language other than the popular language of the people.
One more exerpt:
Evidence from the New Testament Text
The most conclusive evidence for Hebrew as the principal language behind not just the Synoptic Gospels, but the New Testament in its entirety, is the text itself. The New Testament is literally filled with semitisms: Hebrew vocabulary, Hebrew syntax, Hebrew idioms, Hebrew thought patterns, and Hebrew theology. Moulton and Howard have compiled an impressive 72-page-long list of Hebrew expressions and idioms found in the New Testament in their Grammar, Vol. 2, pgs. 413-485. Professor David Flusser of the Hebrew University in Jerusalem, and a member of The Jerusalem School for the Study of the Synoptic Gospels, has emphatically stated, “Of the hundreds of Semitic idioms in the Synoptic Gospels, most can be explained on the basis of Hebrew only, while there are no Semitisms which could only be Aramaic without also being good Hebrew.” Joining Professor Flusser are such notable scholars as Pinchas Lapide (Bar-Ilan University, Tel Aviv), Frank Cross (Harvard University), William Sanford LaSor (Fuller Seminary), Harris Birkland, and J.T. Milik. Even Moshe Bar-Asher, the prominent Aramaic scholar at the Hebrew University, has stated that he believes the Synoptic Gospels go back to an original Hebrew—and not Aramaic—document.
To the New Testament scholar fluent in both Hebrew and Greek, it is immediately apparent that the Greek of the Synoptic Gospels, the first fifteen chapters of the Book of Acts, the Book of Hebrews, and the Book of Revelation, as well as vast portions of the remaining portions of the New Testament text, is not Greek at all, but Hebrew in Greek dress. However, there is an important fact that cannot be over-emphasized: To the scholar fluent in Hebrew, it is additionally apparent that the thought patterns behind the entire New Testament are Hebrew, and not Aramaic or Greek.
If you are interested in further study on the subject of Hebrew as the language of Jesus and the common people of his day, I recommend the following tape series: “Understanding the Difficult Words of Jesus,” “Nuggets from the Sermon on the Mount,” “Foundations of Faith,” and “Jesus the Rabbi and His Rabbinic Method of Teaching.”
(2 Cor 11:14) “And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.”
If Obama wins the Presidancy the time frame would be right for the man of sin to be exposed on Nov. 4th
If Obama wins the Presidancy the time frame would be right for the man of sin to be exposed on Nov. 4th
maybe we should look at the writer of the book of the Bible that we are referring to see which word they would have used. Jesus said the words but someone else wrote them...and was this book written in the time of Jesus or later as many books of the Bible were just food for thought and a question or two I am looking for answers to
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