Join your fellow Americans, and defeat the Obama thugs!!!
Posted on 10/28/2008 4:46:09 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
A poll was conducted back In June 2008, and it found that the number of Hillary supporters that were going to vote for Obama was 58%, with 28% going to vote for McCain. The rest were undecided.
In September, another poll was conducted, and it found that things were unchanged for Obama. This poll found that the percentages were still 58% going to vote for Obama and 28% going to vote for for McCain, with the remainder still undecided.
If the remainder ends up splitting evenly, that will give McCain 35% of Hillary supporters that will vote for him and 65% for Obama.
18 million people voted for Hillary in the Democratic primaries. 35% of those 18 million voting for McCain on Nov. 4th, 2008, will translate into about 6.4 million votes for McCain - votes that Obama will not get - and would have gotten had he chosen Hillary as his veep.
This may account for why the MSM pollsters have skewed their polls and rampantly oversampled Dems, and undersampled Repubs - along with tainting their polls with extra blacks and college students being polled.
6 million plus axtra voters for McCain...
Wow.
Since early voting numbers show that few college students are turning out to vote early for Obama, even though he and his campaign have been pleading with them to do so, and with some polls showing that Obama's turnout of black voters won't be much better than John Kerry's were, the Obama campaign is worried.
This election is far from over. The polls are much, much closer than many realize.
What say you?
I think a lot, if not most, undecideds break for McCain..
Join your fellow Americans, and defeat the Obama thugs!!!
Can we get ‘em to vote in VA, CO, and PA?
Source for those figures about the college students?
Yep.
That’s how they have in the past.
Undecideds don’t break for newbies.
Obama is a newbie.
140+ days in the Senate and he starts running for pres.
Fox News, Rachel Maddow’s show on MSNBC and few others...
LINK?!
My true blue RAT friend is not voting for Pres. She was big time Hillary supporter.
Rather, it's the over assignment of those polled to the "independent/undecided" category.
As long as the pollster has a reasonable idea of what percentage of the electorate belongs to which party it really doesn't matter how many of each party get polled. All that will happen is the pollster will get a better number from one set of voters than another.
If, on the other hand, the pollster takes all his Democrat respondents who might vote for McCain and calls them independents, but does not also reduce the percentage of Democrats in the total sampling universe, he simply gives each Obama vote greater weight and thereby distorts the results.
These guys all know that 20% of white Democrats will not vote for Obama under any circumstances. That's about 12% of all Democrats!
By calling them independents they give Obama as much as a 15% lead over McCain.
I think an approach like that might sell with the "moderate independents" with their thumb still up their....well, in their ear.
Obama has been around since the Fall.
Death to vanities and searing pain to those who post them.
Do Hillary supporters really think this way?
No matter how much resentment I might feel toward McCain and his natural RINO supporters I would never vote for a Democrat. How could the PUMA’s vote for us?
If I was still a Democrat, I would vote for McCain. There are so many reasons, but the biggest is because of what he did to Hillary.
Norman Bates;
Go PUMAS!
One: They'll immediately try to undermine McCain, and more importantly, Palin.
Two: McCain has a propensity for reaching across the aisle and passing bad bi-partisan legislation.
It will be a long 4 years to keep McCain in line, reminding him the Conservative base is his constituency; not the PUMAS and MSM.
LOL, to post 19
GO PUMAS!
They aren’t voting FOR us, they are voting against the Obamanation who stole the nomination from Hillary, just as he will steal the election from McCain if given the chance.
I say that if I believed polls from reputable pollsters I'd think Obama was up by 13 in Pennsylvania. If I'm not going to believe them why should I believe some unknown, unnamed poll just because it slams Hillary?
will emphasize his connections.... "his" now in right place.
What is your source on early voting. Several states NC, and GA early voting is running 9 - 10% higher than 2004 with a week still to go. Have totals from 2004 need by Party, Race and Sex to make a valid comparision.
Good points. What I havebeen reading form them is that they want there pary back from Pelosi and Reid and Dean (I have spent too much time at their blogs, lol) and they want it to be a centrist party again. With all that said, your points are very good ones.
Because not all Democrats are moonbats. Obama is just unacceptable to mainstream America.
I have no doubt that many of them will vote for McCain/Palin. We’ll see if the number is enough to overcome ACORN.
Quite simply the PUMA’s hate Obama’s guts for stealing the election from HRC through voter fraud and not even vetting her for VP. I will admit that if McCain had not chosen Sarah Palin and instead a ‘boring white guy’ some of these women may have sat out the election. However, despite the prognostications of the pundits Sarah has attracted a number of PUMA’s to McCain’s side-one because she is a woman and secondly she shows the proper respect to HRC in recognizing her for her efforts and finally because she is intelligent, friendly and charismatic. Finally the PUMA”s have been asked by their leadership to lie to pollsters to screw up Obama’s planning and strategy. That’s how much they hate Obama.
“Antone” ummm, that would be “anyone”. Sorry
That's an insult to newbies. [;-)
I like this better:
"Obama has been around since the Fall." That's funny!
I wonder if that poll is taking into account that many of the PUMA’s are telling the pollsters that they are voting for Obama when they are really going to vote for McCain. I don’t think so!!!!!
My bet is that he’s gonna get a lot less of the Hillary votes than the pollsters or Obama ever thought possible. I personally know 6 Hillary supporters from the primaries, and they are all voting for McCain now! I couldn’t be happier!
Obama has been around since the Fall.
Excellent observation! He is a serpent deceiving the unsuspecting masses.
I’ve been saying this for a LONG time, and been greeted with skepticism by some on this forum.
However I used a number half as big as this.
Go and look at some of their blogs.
They are extremely angry with the DNC and the Obama campaign for what they perceive as having stolen the nomination from Hillary Clinton.
Maybe it’s the Hillary effect. Tell the pollsters one thing. Vote another.
If this is anywhere near accurate, Obama will lose in a landslide on election day.
Even 10% would be a devastating and unsustainable loss. The mere percentages of dems sitting out is probably enough to cost Obama the election.
This is also important when the media spins the early voting.
It matters very little how many Dem ballots are turned in. Which way did they vote?
Keep the following states in mind because they are high risks to vote against Obama because of their high affiliation with Hillary clinton:
West Virginia 67-26 Clinton
Rhode Island 58-40 Clinton
Ohio 54-44 Clinton
Pennsylvannia 55-45 Clinton
Florida 50-33 Clinton
Nevada 51-45 Clinton
New Hampshire 39-36 Clinton
Yeah, Obama does not need any of those states. He will be fine. This is what dems said about Obama when the primaries were over. He cannot win the key states. That is also why the national numbers cannot be reconciled to the state numbers. If it is close in the National polls and yet he has huge margins in the meaningless liberal states of Mass, NY, and Calif— how can he be doing well in the Clinton states? No one dares ask these questions.
Consider this quotation from a diehard Obama supporter analyzing this question in May of 2008:
http://www.electiondefensealliance.org/Primaries_2008_Managed_Manipulation
“By way of corroboration of this phenomenon, in public dialogue with a major-party polling consultant the following shocking admission was made: if the Democratic candidate is not leading by 10% going into the election in their internal polling, they expect the race to be a toss-up. This internal candidate polling is—unlike polls published for public consumption—intended to paint a ruthlessly accurate picture of contest dynamics to help the party prioritize expensive get-out-the-vote drives and last-minute media blitzes. The fact that even major-party pollsters must adjust their own results to account for the “mystery swing” to the right is a strong indication that much the same distorting protocol is already being employed in public pre-election polling.”
Several states NC, and GA early voting is running 9 - 10% higher than 2004
I went to vote early today in Indy and there were so many blacks standing in line I couldn’t help but surmise about how many of them were voting for the umteenth time. At one time Marian County had registrations at 105% of eligible voters and I don’t think anyone has addressed that issue like in other states. Acorn has had their fraudulent workers all over the city.
most of us would admit that if we had to vote for ONE of them, BO or HRC, we would certainly choose the devil we know and that would be HRC. Even Sandy Burglar as Sec. of State would be a welcome alternative to whichever radical BO wants to appoint...
and imagine the SC judges he will choose!! Several mentioned were commie law professors that he admires, from Harvard or Univ. of Chicago...
BO scares the shiite out of me.
My senior citizen mother, God bless her, is a huge Hillary Clinton supporter. This year she’s voting for McCain. She’s very bitter about what she perceives was Obama’s theft of the nomination from Clinton.
No problem, Obama’s got around 70,000,000 dead people voting for him.
The Moderate Dems are Pizzed and want their party back.
If BHO wins damage to the Dem party may be irreparable.
They want Join the Rep party but the Moderate Dems and Moderate Rep could join up into a Super party that includes the Ind.
After all the Republican party was created from disgruntled Democrats that had had enough.
Ever hear of Regan Democrats? Regan himself was a dem, and then "the party left him". So he switched. Well, different generation, but pretty much the same reasons; "the party left them", the kook fringe has taken over - thrown reason out the window. That, and I suspect a lot of them are voting for Sarah.
Yes, the undecideds DO break for McCain!
http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2008/10/27/undecideds/
That's what Sarah's for. To keep him honest. Or at least try. We have to do our part too.
Pardon me for being cynical about the PUMA factor, but my own experience with McCain suggests that Ol’ Crusty’s admirers might not vote against Big Ears in the numbers we’re hoping to see.
Like many freepers I was decidedly cool to McCain, and it was only when it became a choice of a GOPer I don’t particularly like and a Democrat I detest that the former became my choice (palin helped there!).
I suspect a lot of Hillary’s supporters will revert to party form when the time comes to pull the lever. For many, voting Republican is probably only a little less distasteful than rolling in dog dirt.
But we’ll see in a few days. Sure hope I’m wrong.
I almost posted a vanity tonight and thought of you and didn’t. Lol
I instead posted my vanity as a reply to someone else’s post. I was afraid, very, very afraid. Lol
Hillary campaigning and begging her followers to vote for Obama—How many will return ?
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